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yeah >> of course, this one perso who's pretty clearly a victim. vernon holbrook, who built a successful business, and loved his role at the center of happy family did he trust too much? should he have known what migh be coming? maybe. those are tough questions to answer because the truth is, no one wants to believe your business partner will betray you. after all, the idea is tha they're just like family >> but all for this edition of dateline i'm craig melvin thank you. >> a beautiful young mom abducted from her beach fron home her husband horrified. >> my wife made a phone call t me to say that she was held at gunpoint her mother terrified
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>> that is your worst nightmar imagining what is happening to your child >> a note with big demands left by mysterious kidnapper who seemed to know all, se all. >> they are watching the house and then the victim hersel calls. her mom jumping into work with police, would hand over th ransom herself >> if i didn't jump the mone properly, that would be the en of her she dropped the cash all right but who picked it up that's where everything went wrong? >> that's where everything wen wrong. >> kidnapping case about to go way off script >> her story did not mak sense. >> what was really going on? >> i've been a cup for 11 year and i blush when i listen to the tape >> a story with more twists an turns in the florida roads trying to find this missin mom. >> this case was not going t turn out like a lot of peopl assumed. >> thanks for joining us i'm lester holt. whenever someone is kidnappe it triggers a race against tim
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as police often joined by th victims family begin a frantic search that's what happened in th story, which begins with a young mom abducted at gunpoint as you are about to, see her family and veteran investigators spent desperat days trying to find out wher she was, they never could've guest who had her and why. here is josh mankiewicz. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> this is the sheriff's office >> my wife made a phone call t me a minute ago. to say that she is held by gunpoint >> businessman gray was on the line with the sheriff's office in a panic he told the 9-1-1 operator, hi wife phantom minutes earlier t say she'd been kidnapped >> it sounds like a movie, but it's not >> the kabul turnout to be jus
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the beginning of a unbelievable saga that would baffle investigators and turning this husband's lif upside down. the next few days would brin one seand no one could have pree how it all would come to a end. it was around 5 pm, septembe 4th, 2009, reads wife queen ha called him at work and told hi achieved just been kidnapped out of their 4 million-dolla home reid couldn't believe he'd heard. he went to his office parkin lot to try anything straight >> did she tell you where sh was at >> no. there is a note at the house with the gunman's demands. >> the news was as shocking as it was terrifying. quinn, a mom of two youn daughters, was a trained nurse who is now raising her childre full-time. her husband was a self made man, who finally hit it big in th health care business this frightened husband told the 9-1-1 operator he didn't know what to do next
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>> she said, reid, you call th police, they will shoot me today could be three punks, bu i guns a gun, man. reid gray took a gamble and di just the opposite of what hi wife had told him. soon, multiple law enforcement agencies would be on the case. >> to check and make sure fire rescue will be coordinatin with us. >> st. john's county sheriff david shoar. >> all bets are off, there i nothing more important than victim who's being held agains their will and who's bee threatened with homicide, so you roll out when you have >> while reid went to th sheriff's office, a swat tea was deployed to his home the cautiously entered the multi million dollar residents the house sat eerily empty a photo album opened on couch. a happy quinn on a wedding day crime scene tex swept inside and out, looking for fingerprints, tire tracks. any clues to the kidnapper
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identities on the dining room table, they found a sheet of yellow paper, around some note it looked to be in quinn gray' handwriting. dear reid, i need you to rea this and become. reid, do not be a hero this is professional there are three men holding me right now, and they want $50,000 cash i will be okay, if you get the the money. >> what do you know about th victim >> we know she was a housewife
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raising children, one of the prettier parts of our county >> reid and quinn gray wer into st. john's county having just moved into the beachfront home, it's an are known for its world famous gol course and looks homes >> i don't use the term th perfect kidnapping victim, but it fit >> and her husband made a lo of money >> the worst-case scenario make one wrong move and th killer >> on the day she was kidnapped, 37-year-old pga mom had made appointments for her daughters to have haircuts and she was far along in the planning for one of he daughters birthdays. now reid tried to shield the eight and six-year-old from th news their mom's life was in danger he picked up his girls fro school it took them to a friend house. >> i'm way down here in one of those like tv detective rooms. >> while he waited at th sheriff's office reid was still in a short anti from work and he was a emotional wreck. >> i just freaking out being alone right now. >> you should more details about queens brief frantic cal
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to him hours earlier >> consider there's somebody with a gun pointed at her head >> on that call, she said ther are three kidnappers and the were albanian. the 50,000 dollar ransom was t payback money reid had borrowe from a loan shark. but reid insisted he didn't ow money to anyone. >> let me put it i perspective. i make a little over one point $3 million this year 50 ground doesn't mean much. >> why ask for only $50,00 from a man who is making mor than 1 million dollars a year? reid didn't know, and neithe did investigators. at this point, there was onl one goal, queens safe return >> it was very disconcerting t realize we had a housewife and mother too small children an whatever she was going through it wasn't good >> and there was something els that wasn't good, this
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investigation was starting wit no witnesses, no clues to th kidnappers identities, and mor importantly, no answers to the question, where was quinn gray >> coming up, quinn appears. on the phone, calling he husband with frantic instructions >> get in the car with the money. just do it now please, reid >> when dateline continues there's an invisible threat in your backyard that could cause deadly heartworm disease for your dog. but not if you protect him every month with heartgard plus, the #1 choice of dogs. digestive and neurological side effects have been reported. ask your vet for heartgard plus. staaaaacccceeeyyy! i'm the sizzle in this promposal. and tonight, sparks are gonna fly. kyle? and while romeo over here is trying to look cool, things are about to heat up. uh-oh. darn it, kyle! and if you don't have the right home insurance coverage, you could end up paying for this yourself. sorry mr. sanchez! get allstate, and be better protected from mayhem, like me. that's a hard no. with gold bond... you can age on your own terms. retinol overnight means...
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xfinity rewards creates experiences big and small, and successful businessman was and once-in-a-lifetime. at the sheriff's office near his expensive home in florida, a wealthy community about 20 miles south of jacksonville. his wife quinn was kidnapped just a few hours earlier and the ransom $50,000 >> i'm not gonna be able t work, sleep breathe until this is resolved. >> one thing you have to understand is that in th modern-day marketplace of crime, kidnapping for ransom is practically an antique here's why, it is not difficul to abduct a family member of a
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rich person but things lik improve technical surveillance cooperation between la enforcement agencies, even caller i. d., now make a jus about impossible to pick u ransom money and escap undetected as a result the kind o kidnapping you see in th movies pretty much exist onl in hollywood but for reid gray this was frightening, nerve-racking reality. >> any trouble with phone kind in the middle of the night strange noses around the house >> no. >> married for almost nine years, he told investigators his relationship with quinn wa better than ever and that th couple was even thinking about having another child >> she's an amazing friend she's active in taking the girls to dance, all of their after school programs. >> she was a wonderful daughter,
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yes. >> quinn hanna gray mom -- >> it's very difficult to say, but she was absolutely the sweetest of all the children >> reed called his mother in that night with devastatin news >> i was in shock, as a mother you think that is your worst nightmare, imagining what is happening to your child. >> what do you think quinn i going on at that point >> being tortured, tied up fearing for her life fearing that she would never see her children again >> while quinn waited for news at her georgia home, he stated the office until about 2 am an then returned to his house
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while his kids stayed with friends. early the next morning saturday, about 16 hours after quinn's kidnapping, he sent a text t his wife's phone >> haven't slept all night please tell me you are all right, but there is no reply about two hours later reid who was now with investigators finally got a call, it was quinn and reid becam emotional. >> why do i need to do >> they'll call you back i don't know they'll call you back. >> she said daca me back >> investigators wired up th
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phone so that they could recor all the calls. the sheriff was surprised to hear quinn's voice >> historically the kidnappers don't let the victim communicate. >> in this case it was her voice on the phone >> the advantage for that is that you never hear their voice? >> that is true. >> the sheriff rolled out hi command unit to a secluded are near quinn and reid's house, from inside he started directing the 100 person personnel who was working this case, they waited for the next contact from the kidnappers. then about 45 minutes afte that last call, reid's phone rang again the cell reception was poor, but quinn gave reid a location for a money drop >> get in the car with the
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money and go down buller boulevard and take a left on southside. >> i got to write this down. >> no just do it please, just do it you've got the cops, they're gonna kill me. >> hello >> the conversation abruptly ends and quinn sounded angry it was easy to imagine the tremendous stress she must o been under reid was growing increasingl worried for his wife safety. >> she goes you got the cops they're gonna kill me. >> still, state remain calm.
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>> the for the first time sh was screaming help >> she's making this urgent. >> reed stayed at the sheriff' office as they scramble to get in place, investigators also needed more time to get $50,00 cash together for the ransom but only 30 minutes late another call came in >> hello >> it was quinn again, instructing reid to go to different location he was now to go to chick-fil-a restaurant >> take the convertible to down and just wait at chick-fil-a parking lot. >> i want to see you, i want exchanges for the money.
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i'm not giving the money without you. hello? >> now investigators rush to get teams and undercover car in place at the chick-fil-a. but they needed more time. they told reid to play dumb on quinn next call, and say tha he didn't know which chick-fil-a restaurant to go to >> which southside are you add >> you're supposed to be at th chick-fil-a. chick-fil-a. trelegy for copd. there are three of them.
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call there was a problem at the money drop point >> they spotted three fed cars near chick-fil-a, so i don't know where i'm going now you need to wait for mor instructions >> were they spotted at th chick-fil-a? is that why quinn meant. a few minutes later came a ominous text from queen, i kno you want me dead
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read text back, i don't know i that's quinn i have your $50,000. stop - with me. just give me my wife there was no reply investigators brought reid bac to his house and parked in the driveway they set up a mini command center in the house using recorder to tape all incomin calls. and that is when something happened that no one expected. >> we sent a detective to that home and we didn't wit surreptitiously because we had thought about it >> and they walk in the fron door >> yes, they pulled in a unmarked vehicle the minute they pulled in, w received a text from the victim reid got another text from his cell phone >> wait for instructions, yo -- up twice already, you involved other people. who's ford is in the driveway? it wasn't unmarked sherrif's vehicle.
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they are watching the house? >> there watching the house. >> fearing there were bein watched by the kidnappers, the sheriff ordered all hi personnel to go covert and get out of sight >> we were watching ourselve to see if they were watching us? >> the kidnappers have you watching of your own shoulders >> that is exactly right >> what does that say to you i they're playing by different set of rules >> it was probably one of th earliest indications to me tha this case was not going to tur out like a lot of people assumed. >> dateline returns after th break. >> it was saturday afternoon queen ray, wife and mother o two had been missing for ove 24 hours after two attempted money drop failed, the local sherif called in the fbi. almost 150 people were now working to find her. the agent in charge of the fbi jacksonville office was jame casey, he said the kidnapper appeared to be deactivatin quinn's cell phone after eac of the calls they made to reid >> somebody in the scheme wa smart enough to take the
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battery out of the cell phon because we were able through some technical capabilities to determine that that phone wa not only off but had no powe to it at certain times >> meaning you can trace it? >> meaning you can trace it. >> well there is no pinpointin the exact address where queens calls were originating technicians were tracing pin when the phones in use those are the electric connections made when a phon hits a built-in killer cel tower. that gave them a particula deal where she might have been held fbi agents, since retired, was selected as the lead crisi negotiator for the bureau. >> we're checking the phone an thinking that we have some leads. >> agents felt they were makin progress, but then suddenly th phone was also pinning further away the kidnappers and quinn might have been on the move. sheriff detective howard coa was sent in pursuit. >> it was believe that queen grays cell phone was being track to in the area west of orlando. >> but something had gone wrong, before tracing the calls investigators had to get a judges approval and in the rus to fill out the proper paperwork, someone made a smal but critical era >> when they went to get the order signed by a judge, wha was typed into the actua information, - >> so the phone number was
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wrong? >> human error >> so the phone you were following wasn't quinn's phone >> yes >> how long did you follow the phone? for >> seven days. >> suddenly the league's vanished when you guys realize that you are following the wrong some phone, what's? >> my hair was on fire i thought how can somethin like that happen we were really back to squar one, who are we looking for. we had no idea >> the rest of saturday went b with no word from queen or the kidnappers meanwhile quinn's mom gayl sykes left her georgia home an head to her georgia home a georgia. >> how long is the drive >> seven and a half hours.
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>> long drive with that kind o information with your brain. >> at around 2 am when gal arrive she found a unbelievable scene >> i walked into like a wa zone >> the swat team hiding inside the house? >> they were everywhere. i was told that they wer outside, in the bushes that they were on the roof it was unreal. >> early sunday morning almost 38 hours since her kidnapping, and 12 hours since the las contact from the kidnappers, fbi negotiator toni cravat decided to have queens mom sen text messages to her daughter' phone hoping the good napper would read them. >> every 20 minutes, every hou we sent a message. please call me i love you let me know that your safe i'm very worried about you >> you want the kidnappers t start thinking about her as
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mom who needs to go home to he family and not just a cash register >> i want the kidnappers t think of her as a wife, daughter, a mother >> finally a text came bac about 9:30 am, this time t quinn's mom phone. have the money in a bag. no traceable devices no reid whatsoever if he is anywhere close. she's dead no cops. be ready to leave at 11:00 the kidnappers had apparentl decided that they no longe wanted to deal with reid why because the kidnappers don't trust? i'm >> maybe we then know, one of the tec said that he had messed it u already. another thought was that mom was more controllable. >> so reid gray was no longe at the center of a huge la
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enforcement effort that wa working around the clock t save his wife. how did he feel about bein shut out of that >> it made him uncomfortable, think. he didn't understand it. nobody understood it so we mov forward. >> quinn's mother would make the next money drop, it was an unlikely role for the 62 yea old grandmother. a manager at a walmart, and dog breeder on the side. >> i was very concerned that i i didn't drop the mone properly that that would be th end for quinn. >> what's in your background prepared you for what you ar about to go through? >> i guess just being a mother trying to protect your children >> despite her nerves, gai sikes was pressed into service at around 10:30 am, th kidnappers instructed queens mom to go to my colors landing an area long the beach and there she would find further instructions in a bathroom she left her daughter's house, the money was in a blue ba along with a tracking device courtesy of the fbi. at the location, quinn's mothe found the designated bathroom.
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hidden inside the toilet paper holder was a note. it looked again to be in queen handwriting, and gail read i out loud to investigators. >> it says mom, so far i'm fine no harm has been done to me. after you pick up this letter. you are going to drive north towards joes crab shack, dro the money out of the car and d not look back. anything goes wrong, and i'm dead >> up to this point they didn' want to herder, they had n intention of hurting her, bu now it says, anything goes wrong i'm dead >> they are escalating it? >> yes >> undercover agents converged on joes crab shack, a loca restaurant popular wit tourists >> we had surveillance out, we had airplanes out. >> you're watching >> we're watching. >> queens mom drove to the cra shack, - >> i drove through and there were bushes sitting in the sidewalk area, i dropped the car and threw the money toward the bushes >> did you tell investigator to watch the money carefully
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>> absolutely. >> you guys are all on to this >> yes >> all right because you know don't want some stranger t come along and pick up tha back >> the plan is to see who pick up the back and then what, followed him back to where quinte is? >> right, we knew that there were going to be aware of tracking device. we knew that they were going t be surveilled. so whoever grabs that bag is gonna be taken down. >> the fbi agent in charge monitor the situation from a mobile command center as undercover surveillance team reported back on what wa happening in the parking lot >> it wasn't too long after sh threw the money out that a group of males walk by, one of them wanders over, kicks the back a little bit, picks up th back and throw the bag at th back of the suv, get in the ca and start doing a route around the area >> they start doing suspicious things, they drive through a little neighborhood, almos trying to clean themselves fro surveillance it was the first major break i the case now e a leadwe have license plate, we have three males. and we're watching where they're going. >> what happened next was no written in any books >> and that is where everythin went wrong >> that's where everything wen wrong. >> dateline returns after th break. is a new title really necessary? sir, after bestowing the gift of renting ease to millions, a bump is in order. okay, let's see. oh, hey... what's this? lord of the lease! i'm not a hat-person. yeah, no. emperor of the rentalverse. that's funny. no.
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account for everyone who i there the suspects are i custody. authorities lifted a evacuation order on sunday i indiana, five days after a fir at a plastics were cycling center unit asked residents no to touch - could contain asbestos and needs to be professionally removed. now back to dateline >> the ransom drop had bee made, shares investigators and fbi agents believe they migh
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be on the verge of breaking th kidnapping case of quinn gray. undercover teams and an fb plane we're following severa men in an suv, who had jus picked up the ransom money fro a brand restaurant parking lot investigators were hoping that the men didn't notice th tracking device in the bag or that the back only containe $10,000. james casey was the fbi agen in charge. the kidnappers as for $50,000, you didn't give them 50,000 yo give them 10,000 >> we gave them less tha $50,000. >> and they said don't put a gps tracking device in, and yo did. >> right >> is that standard procedur to ignore kidnappers when they say that kind of thing >> we are in charge of how thi goes, not them the idea was to get the back t them and find out where they are. >> but then came something n one expected, quinn's mom, gai sikes. >> queen call and said where i the money? they are going to kill me? >> and you said -- >> i dropped it off, absolutely >> jesus quinn, what kind of
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people are these i told you, you go to the crap shack and there's a huge talking on >> listen to me. hello? >> for the first time, everyon heard the voice of one of th kidnappers >> was anybody following you >> know. >> if anybody follows you yo know it happens. >> what's? i'm sorry? hello? >> when you hear that guys voice on the phone, it changes everything >> absolutely. >> she said it is thre albanian's, and we have a male there. >> at last a solid lead, but everyone, including the fbi' jeanne casey was perplexed ove why the kidnappers were stil asking for the money didn't they have it? >> they pulled into a ga station, not far from th restaurant after they've don little driving around. as we're sitting aroun
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watching them, the jacksonvill beach police pulls into the ga station and starts talking t these young man. >> you're thinking what? >> we had no idea what was going on >> trying to keep th kidnapping quiet sauce to no to tip off the local media, th fbi and the sheriff' department had not told th local police about the ranso drop so a frantic call was made t the jacksonville beach polic instructing officers to brin the suspects in. detective howard cool of the sheriff's office rushed to the scene. >> immediately everybody rightfully so says, these guys are involved, we need to interview these guys and waiting to find out what's the connection is. >> one man told the detectiv that he was german >> what's your interest in germany? >> hamburg, germany. >> even though they were fro
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germany, could they have had some connection with the albanian man queen mentioned i her first call to read >> we walked back, lik crossing the parking lot saw the blue back and one of the guys was joking and said, yeah for sure there's money inside. >> but in an unbelievabl stroke of bad luck, it turne out to be that these mans were not the kidnappers >> it becomes pretty clear pretty quickly that these guys were in the wrong place at the wrong time >> the men were actually college exchange students, two of them played on the same tennis team. >> they looked at the back and said hey, wouldn't it be coo if there was money in that bag it was really that simple, tha coincidental it couldn't be made up >> the college student stumble upped on the bad picked it u and got scared when they saw cars following them. they then called 9-1-1 >> oh we found a blue bag or something on a parking lot and there was a huge amount of money in there and we just wanted to give it to you guys. >> they came down to jacksonville beach to have som fun -- >> and they wound up with more
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than they expected >> a lot more. >> it was a chance encounter that had everyone on edge. all of the money drop the times, had ended in failures. three attempts at a ransom drop, the money never actually exchange hands the kidnappers never got the money. >> no. >> i turn to the fbi and say what's happening with the money? >> they say well we don' exactly know where the money i right now. i said great, so you've gotten my daughter killed >> the real kidnappers wer still looking for their money. and of course, it wasn't at th drop location. >> it's tense and the mom is a wreck. mom is getting upset because mom knows that she dropped off the money. >> everything went south at th ransom drop? >> and we still don't know who we were looking for, we were back to square one >> back to square one again? >> again >> you are very upset. >> absolutely. >> it's not like a tv show isn't? it >> no >> it had been about 43 hour since queen disappeared, as th fbi prepared yet another bac
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of money the kidnappers called back, it was the same male voice from before and he was angry abou the lack of progress >> listen. i'm sick and tired of this - i'm sick and tired of it reed has been giving me -- left and right >> reed has been giving you? >> tuesday money he's gonna go to the bank and pick up $50,00 and will arrange something else >> more bad news for everyone, it was sunday of that labor da weekend. monday was a holiday, the bank would be closed. guaranteeing that this traum would last for at least anothe day. and night. >> we're all thrown for a loop when we hear this. we didn't want to string thi out two more days. >> not wanting to drag this ou any longer investigators decided to try a risky new strategy and told quinn's mo to now take an aggressiv approach whenever she talked with the kidnappers. >> that is a big gamble? >> we tried to get a little bi more control we are still being cooperative and being clear that we woul still paid the ransom. >> i did not get the money my party did not get the money >> you know i tell you
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seriously, i think you're lyin to me. >> what? >> i think you're lying to me. i think you got it >> but then somethin frightening happened, that aggressive approach might have backfired. >> did you hear that >> what? >> did you hear that round >> the what? >> did you hear the round just fired >> no my god, i did not hear the round you just fired >> ok, well listen your daughter is fine. >> well if i heard around yo let me talk to her again >> it was completely unexpected i was in a situation o helplessness i figured that i was never gonna see her again. i was so sad because she was never gonna be able to be mother again and never be able to see her children again. >> was that a gunshot? investigators couldn't hear at what did it mean and was quinn still alive? >> dateline returns after th
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almost two full day since quin was abducted, and after terrible morning where the money drop turned disastrous a text message, apparently fro queen, was sent to her mom cellphones at around 2 pm. mom, please know cops. i am so sorry about all of this but they are pissed. and i want to see my girls the fbi's hostage negotiator was toni cravat. do you think about the kids in
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a situation like this? >> absolutely. you can't not. he made arrangements for the so that they would be shielded by this. we're in the business of preserving life. >> do you think when, mayb she's not even alive anymore >> we don't know we don't know for sure >> investigators are becomin increasingly worried because they hadn't actually heard quinn's voice since the da before then, at about 5:25 that evening another text message came into queens mom's phone i do not get access to m phone. have reid check his email, picture of me taken. did he get all of the money? and it reads email, there wa this photo of quinn. what can you tell from tha photo? >> it certainly looked a though quinn was ver distraught maybe had been crying. she didn't look like queen a all. not at all >> the photo was taken using a cell phone and the backgroun could be anywhere. but investigators got lucky. because there's a little known
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technology built into that photo and it offered investigation there's a huge break. they didn't know that photograph, taken on an iphone an email to somebody else ha gps coordinate on it >> yeah. >> i don't know? that >> we were able to chec the photograph and find a gp coordinate and then we kne exactly where the photo ha been taken >> investigators rushed to thi location in jacksonville how long after you looked at that photograph did you have agents headed to the scene >> minutes >> but there is no one there later that night the kidnapper called back and quinn's mother again at the urging of the fbi kept up a tough negotiatin stuff. >> i won't quit in my car. i'm not gonna give you my mone until i have quinn in the car. >> i'm telling you what to do. >> i'm telling you what i' going to do. >> did that aggressive approac seem to work >> i think so. >> another ransom drop was
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planned. >> all right, i talked to he first. i see her and she walks across and gets in my car >> ma'am, i'm making the decisions. not you. >> no, i am going to see m daughter and i'm gonna have he in my car. i've got your money. let me see my daughter and i want her in my car do you understand? >> was this at last the end of this ordeal? it was not, because th kidnappers never showed an quinn's mom returned home. that is when investigators realized they had a ne problem. the story of quinn gray' disappearance broke on the local news, a stor
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investigators had been tryin to keep out of the press this hits the news, you weren' expecting that >> i wasn't. we were pretty fortunate t have this cool couple of day without being on the news. quite frankly we don't wan them to see it either. >> the kidnappers did see it and they were not happy. queens mom received a text why is she on the news >> that was one of those o boys, oh boy now what are we gonna do wit this one >> remember the kidnappers had threatened quince life i police became involved the fact that was hard to deny since it was on the news so investigators came up with cover stories, the deputie
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found her abandon car and came to her multi million dolla home to make sure that she was okay they had queens bomb send th text >> quinn the police have found your car they came here and there are now searching for you. call me as i am now very worried. i love you did the kidnappers seem to buy that >> yes, they did >> but that good news would be short lived as the next call from quinn would send everyone into a panic >> quinn, queen what is wrong? quinn. >> dateline returns after th break. can't get more. gold bond. champion your skin. ♪♪ this is how it feels to du more with less asthma... ...thanks to dupixent. dupixent is not for sudden breathing problems. it's an add-on treatment for specific types of moderate-to-severe asthma. and can help improve lung function for better breathing in as little as two weeks. dupixent helps prevent asthma attacks... and can even reduce or eliminate oral steroids. imagine that. ♪♪ dupixent can cause allergic reactions that can be severe.
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since quinn gray's kidnappin and there had been n communication with the kidnappers since the night before the fbi's toni cravat, switc strategies >> we had three drop offs go bad, but they were willing t wait they wanted a way out and we were willing to give them a wa out? >> nobody has been hurt, if -- >> just let her go >> just let her go >> monday morning turned int
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afternoon, quinn's mom seeme to be getting desperate. she sent a text on our own t the kidnappers, without fb approval i am heartbroken, and girl probably no longer have mother you have no heart. and i pray that what goe around comes around. >> she was angry, she was tired, she was worried. >> angry at you? >> angry at all of us i think. we weren't able to bring her daughter home. >> throughout the ordeal, reid gray who was pushed in the background had been ultimately upset and angry as well. detective howard cole spen some time with queens husband. i think there was time when he wanted to get the money out of
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the way his own bank account i think there was time where h did it he thought that w didn't know what we were doing >> he seemed - what was your opinion of him >> he seemed like a real decen guy. he was depending on us to fi his situation. i was trying to put myself i his shoes and i thought that h dealt with it pretty wel considering the circumstances. >> he waited at his home everyone waited as minutes became hours hoping for some contact. but there was nothing. quinn's mom was so stresse that toni cravat suggested a change of scenery and had he brought to this courtyard at the jacksonville fbi headquarters it was around 6 pm >> she opens the phone and her whole physical being changes >> and it was quinn. >> when, quinn what's wrong? >> and she was completel hysterical, screaming. she was screaming at me.
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>> when, when, talk to me. >> she was incoherent at tha point, i couldn't even understand what she was saying when, did they hurt you? >> toni cravat could only here one side of the conversation >> gayle starts to shake, he knees go week. >> what? what >> nobody can understand wha she is saying. >> when? quinn? >> and then she hangs up >> you think they were attacking her? killing her? >> we don't know, but this i the first time that she sounds hysterical we don't know now she's hurt it sounds like she is very upset. >> while toni cravat tried t calm quinn's mom, someone else had already heard from quinn a 9-1-1 operator >> what's your emergency >> my name is quinn gray, and was kidnapped. and i'm not sure where i a right now. >> it was quinn. >> okay, what's happened >> she was free. >> i need you to take a deep breath, okay >> i was kidnapped on friday >> shaken and in tears, when said she was just dropped ou
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of a white van and was now standing near a mall shoppin center in front of a restaurant >> i've got somebody on the way, okay >> okay, thank you >> they headed to queens location while she stayed on the line with 9-1-1. >> i was in a room, i don' know, like a warehouse o something i was tied up to a chair, with ducked a pin ties. you have no idea what i just went through >> i cannot imagine and i'm so sorry for you. >> deputy trend was one of the first to find her. >> she was acting very erratic was flailing around and wa yelling on her cell phone. >> quinn was brought to the fb 's jacksonville's office where her mom and brother in law met her. and it is not quite the joyful reunion you'd expect >> as far as being joyful, no. she was hysterical when she sa me for the first time. of course i was hysterical, an we ran to each other embrace each other and cried together. >> and audio recording one o the fbi's interview room picked up queens voice from th hallway. >> you guys almost got m
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killed >> queen was dan lead alon into that interview room and one of the first thing she told the agents there was that she felt her husband didn' really want to save her life >> right now, i feel like my husband wanted me dead, 10 percent. >> why is that >> the man makes a lot of money, let's just say that maybe my life isn't worth him payin back, i feel like there is a very dark and sinister side to my husband that i've alway sensed in a way. >> was there something about reed grade that investigator didn't know? and could he have had anything to do with his own wife' kidnapping >> dateline returns after th break. ♪ so you can rise from pain like a pro. icy hot pro. nexgard is the flea and tick protection
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abducted by armed kidnappers days later a florida mom has been suddenly freed. but for everyone who loves her and the investigators who've been trying to find her, i isn't over, there's anothe shock in store here again, josh mankiewicz. >> when gray had finally bee released after three days of captivity, when she was brough to the fbi's jacksonvill headquarters, quinn starte blaming her husband, putting her through the whole ordeal >> right now, i feel like my husband wanted me did. he said that if you read i only given the money to th kidnappers on that first night she was abducted, she migh have been set free, much earlier. -- >> as it turned out, investigators have bee suspicious of quinn's husband, from the very beginning. sheriff david short, first
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spoke with read, right after quinter's kidnapped. >> when you talk to the victim husband, read gray, was th first thing you say to him >> his first comment to me i is the media involved. i didn't feel accountable th actual answer, that's your first question >> someone else was suspicious of read, quinn's mom i thought the possibly did not have to deal with his wife anymore. >> detective howard cole sai investigators had to take closer look at read. >> every time you have a situation like this nature nine times out of ten its inne circle, business, associat friend >> remember when reed firs went to the sheriff's office o the day when his can apps. >> you have anywhere today where you have to go outside >> detectives immediatel thought, something was suspicious >> do you know how you got mud
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or dirt on your shoes here >> they're asking if there i anything on my shoes, there is not. that tells me don't have any leads. >> it tells us we don't rule anything out >> and during that interview investigators learned that queen and read, enjoyed some major problems, and thei relationships. >> what a great tell you about his marriage marriage was rocky. she can come home until thre in the morning, she was pretty intoxicated, went upstairs as like when, it's time to b honest, honest in the beginning, oldest divorce you did explain a lot of thing about past infidelities, bot on his part and on her part. >> as relationship started t deteriorate. >> reed admitted he'd had an affair and said queen ha multiple affairs, that kind of admission, all but guarantee more questions >> we interview him on everything from personal
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finances, to kids that are associates, everything and we threw a lot of really hard questions at him. >> do you have anything to d with her disappearance >> now, 100% now he seemed to be upset -- investigators were keeping a eye on him >> was there a time when you are distrustful of, him or wondered what was going on >> i was question's motives, even though he was acting in appropriately that's not enoug to eliminate someone >> who did you ask read abou the money board from a lon track? >> and he said >> i he never ordered anybod for the whole truck. i don't believe him. >> on the first night of the kidnap, when queens mom went t the oceanfront home. investigators sat her down wit read >> some of these truth probably will hurt read. and recorded the conversation. >> she was concerned, and heard this many times from her
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that read threatened her wit divorce, and she didn't like that >> when his mother, openly speculated about whether ree knew more, then he was saying. >> i also thought that possibl -- we got rid of all kinds of things, got rid of a wife, you don't have to have an argument what custody not to give any money. >> things are going so goo between us - >> i don't know that they're going so good between, it's don't know that really >> you thought was lying >> yes >> i think he was evasive with me, to begin with. >> suspicions about read laste throughout the tim investigators search for quinn on the same day she wa released, they asked reed to take a lie detector test and he agreed. >> he was being candid, he too a polygraph with at the very experienced public refer >> officials of the sheriff' office and the fbi came to the same conclusion, read great ha absolutely nothing to do wit
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queens kidnapping. >> i apologize to him, and the fbi building, and we hugs, and i said i'm so sorry. that i thought that. but that still left th question, who had kidnappe quinn? >> i didn't know what was goin on i was like please, just tell m that you're not gonna kill me. >> that the fbi office, quin was less than completely cooperative with agents, after her release. >> they say anything when they dropped you off? what do they say to you. >> that's the part i'm not getting into >> she eventually became angry >> i'm sorry, but i'm goin over the big stuff >> i'm not being confrontational with you >> but i think you are >> no, ma'am i'm trying to get the details. >> watching from another room, was fbi agent in charge jame casey. >> how did she seem in tha interview? >> she was very disheveled her story did not make sense >> and immediately investigators were confused. why was quinn so annoyed
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and why wasn't she i cooperating in the search fo her kidnappers they got few answers tha night. and queen returned home. but two days later >> i, i'm george >> quin gray was a different person, when she met wit detective detective george - of the st. john's county sheriff's department >> from the beginning, our goa is let her tell her story. >> it's just been the most incredible ordeal to go throug something like this, and for this - to be brainwashed so significantly, they actually believe they are husband i trying to believe you. >> she said police are brainwashed into believing tha her husband wanted her dead. and she was uncooperative with investigators, earlier because you cannot just told her she gave away any information abou them, they would find her an kill her but after some restful sleep quinn said she now believed he husband was trying to save her life >> just all of a sudden, comin
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back to reality, of what was really going on. >> quinn was finally ready t tell her story, about what had really happened during her 72-hour nightmare. >> coming up >> he realized, he was gonna have to let her sleep, or la down and try to sleep. we - just how much of a nightmare o was it quinn's bizarre description of a sexual encounter with he abductor >> i, mean every position, all night long i acted like i enjoyed, i'm no gonna, light sometimes almos did. >> when dateline continues is a new title really necessary? sir, after bestowing the gift of renting ease to millions, a bump is in order. okay, let's see. oh, hey... what's this?
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talk, and get this out >> now this has trump st. john county sheriff's department, has chosen to interview her. >> i asked her to start from the very beginning, and act as if she had not told anyone the story before >> so go back to you wake up from it. tell me your day friday. >> it was just a normal, absolutely normal they >> quinn, said she had a facia at a local spa, went to yoga class, and rand errands in her mercedes suv when she returned home, sh went up to her bedroom >> i went to my closet t change my clothes. he came this way and, said don't do anythin stupid i'm not here for you >> and he's got a gun? >> he's got a gun, and he's go yellow rubber gloves on. >> startled by the gunman, queens screams, but she was th only one home. her husband was at work, the kids in school >> so, he has a gun to my head and i, mean i'm screamin bloody murder.
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>> how does she describe thi guy. >> he was a sharpshooter, or sniper in the albanian military, that he goes around doing thes kind of jobs she said that he had some type of foreign accent. >> the look on his face, and evil in his eyes, i was, lik i'm dead >> the gunman said, he was not there for quin >> - a husband sent some trouble, i don't know about he was hiding something from me, i said we have 25,000 dollar mortgage payment a month that's why does make sense tonight has voted for that money. >> then, the kidnapper started to strain quinn. >> he came over and tried to tie me by hand >> then she said, the gunman took her out of the house. and eventually, threw her into the back of a van. >> frightened and crying, sh was driven around for what seemed like hours.
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she had no idea, where she was being taken. and she feared she would never see her husband, or tw daughters again. the van eventually stopped, an quinn was brought into som sort of warehouse, possibly mechanics garage she was strapped into a chair, with more zip ties and that's when she became ver frightened >> he tied my mouth. he put duck tape around my face at this point i was like, no no >> deputies, later took photos of the marks that quin settlement by the zip ties being pulled too tight clears and left alone, in th dingy dirty warehouse. she heard what sounded like tv on in another room foreign, voices and screaming. i looked over there is another chair. so he's thinking maybe this is
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like a torture room maybe they torturing before they kill them >> quin gray said she believ this could be the last day o her life >> i was praying that whatever this crazy ship going on, that i would live and survive >> after being left for, hours the canaveral returned and eventually qatar free. >> she, said at some, point he realized he was gonna have t let her sleep, where they down and try to sleep so he let her lay down, and, then a few minutes later h laid down next to her, h begins to kiss on her neck, an i said, what's going through your mind? >> and she said, i'm thinkin we're gonna have sex, we'r gonna have sex >> i knew i wasn't going t resist him the more he loves it, mayb have a, chance a note i mean >> that makes sense, you think
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about the press for, me here m out, so you can try to get yourself together, take your time >> so then sex happens, and i asked her to, as best you could, describe that for me, becaus it was important, sh remembered anythin identifiable about this guy, and she described explicit sex >> i mean just every position, all night long >> greene said she didn't tr to fight off or kidnap or, because she thought it might save her life. >> it's really embarrassing. >> i know. >> i acted like i enjoyed, and i'm not gonna lie, sometimes almost did >> listen, it's not unusual to have weird feelings an thoughts going through your -- ear exposed to a massive amoun of trauma. >> chef david shore later watc that interview >> the bottom line is, - >> and i've been saying to hea someone described a sexual assault or something the enjoy. >> yes, it was standing.
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>> when she was held at that warehouse, quinn said she spen the first hellish night, sleeping on a concrete floor but the next day, the kidnappe moved her to a motel instead she also brought i again to the anderson in, an then to kill his husband and children, if she didn' cooperate. one point, she thought about using it on harsh on herself >> - graduate my's hand, said are you crazy? >> mentally broken, quee obeyed all the kidnapper demands. the detective asked quinn to share as much detail of he entire experience, as possible hoping to glean some clues, sh
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remembered something tha seemed incidental. it's something that would late turn out to be crucial to th investigation. >> we he got a thing of pape and drinks for us, so eating like spicy chicken donuts. >> quinn told the police unlike what was right in the original ransom note, she no longer believed three men were involved in our kidnapping >> my very gut instinct now, that i'm clearly thinking, i that there is not anyone involved but him >> the interview lasted almost six hours. >> but it wasn't the end o queen and reads anguish. they were frightened to return home >> look at the difference in that game in the home righ now. >> it's probably right there right now. i'm not going to myself, i'm not going back there >> reed said he was extremel worried for his family safety. >> we -- have nobody in custody i will lie to you.
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>> i need to know that guy i cut, to. >> and investigators als desperately wanted to catc that guy >> take a good look at the surveillance video taken from palm valley phone. >> and there are about to ge some unexpected help we >> any to be to when someon about a winning kidnapping, fo something like that. >> is that you >> coming up, the man in the video, the man queen say abducted her i've gunpoint comes forwards but he's no exactly what investigators inspect. >> what did you learn abou jasmine >> he's bosnia immigrant, he comes from a ver good family, has a college education. >> this guy is no gangster >> actually not. >> when dateline continues psych! and i'm about to steal this game from you just like i stole kelly carter in high school. you got no game dude, that's a foul! and now you're ready to settle the score.
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at a birthday in alabama president biden has renewed hi calls for new gun safety laws, -- in his first uncrewed orbita test flight, this is the mos powerful rocket in the world standing at nearly 400 fee tall, it's part of a years-lon mission to travel to mars, now back to dateline a manhunt was underway, fo queen graze kidnapper. two days after her release quinn remembered something important, that is a new lea for investigators. >> the things she said durin investigation, is on sunda morning, we are at publix. >> quinn remembered the kidnap or bought food from a public supermarket, while she was i captivity. and she remembers specifically
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what he purchased. >> that's right about th chicken, he bought a thing o paper, he bought chicken krona >> detectives went to th public, software manager checked the store's computer and found a match for thos items. the exact time the foo purchase was made, investigators scanne supermarket surveillance footage from that moment and they found, this man quinn confirmed it, he was the kidnapper. >> she gave us enoug information, so go find' picture in publics, and posted on the internet, and posted on the news >> witnesses describe the ma to be in his mid twenties, o early 30s, and about five 8 to 6 feet tall. and now they need your help, i hopes of solving this case >> two days later, a 9-1-1 operator received a call >> this is communications, how can i help you >> i need to talk to somebod about, i was buying somethin at publix, and my pictur appeared for some kind of when we cannot be or something like
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that >> is that you >> i'm actually on my way over there to you >> what is your name, sir? >> jasmine, oz monowitz. >> and within an, hour jasmine's montage ended up here, and the sheriff's office >> he didn't seem to have care in the world. that he was considered the prime suspect, in a kidnapping >> sheriff's detective howar cold conducted investigation >> so, let's just get this ove with >> what did you learn about him? >> he is a bosnian immigrant he comes from a very goo family he was involved in aut mechanic trade, has a colleg education. it was one or two classes away from a degree in crimina justice. >> this guy was no gangster? >> absolutely not. >> but he did match quinn' description of her abductor. while he was not albanian, h did have an accent >> i just want this nightmar to be over >> but as monowitz said he had no idea why anyone, would be looking for him. >> - he freely signed a document,
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waving his right to remain silent he also said he had an alibi for the night when gray wa kidnapped. he was at a bar, and medic named stacey >> okay, tell me about stacey. >> - but his story had more than few holes. i was monowitz wasn't sure o stacy's last name. or her address >> it is a, character what can i tell you he said, by no, that about end of the day you'll see hi walking out of here. >> in addition, he said he saw queens picture in the media. and, he didn't know her. >> did you recognize or >> sir, i mean, she looks like a blond shake, i mean >> you don't look at tha picture, and said i don't know this woman >> she doesn't like like anybody that i know. >> but the atmosphere quickl changed, when cole brought in photo, of quin gray. >> we've already been to the public, you know why because this woman brought u there. >> so what did i do.
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>> she is saying that yo abducted her >> abducted her? >> i have more than enough evidence, to charge you base on her word. >> and, then the detective started to apply pressure. to his monowitz. and free to say that you don't even know her, concerns me greatly, jasmine >> concerns me greatly >> because this woman, i can assure you, but, no zero >> okay, she says she knows me >> absolutely, and i know sh knows you, i know you know her >> sir, i told you everythin they have to tell you. >> you are at the hotel with her saturday in sunday night >> with her? >> and, i'm not quite on her word, i'm going on the clerk word >> detective cole told u monowitz, he had bee identified not only by quinn but also by an employee and th emerson in who said that, on the same weekend the queen went missing he saw automotive itch wit when, in room 207. >> it's her word saying that i -- took her
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>> what's the chances that you and are staying the same hotel in the same, room at the sam time and not knowing each other what's the chances of, tha jasmine? >> he refer back to queens photo, and tauntingly asked if this is a woman stacey, that a monowitz claimed he was with the night cleaners of duct it >> showed us not, stacey but? >> it's her word against mine. >> no, it's more than that now >> how is more >> because we have independent people that i do you there's something more to, i and this one is not telling th truth, you need to be on the top that is telling. it and if she is telling the truth, holy bleep you're in lot of trouble >> but, as monowitz maintain you did nothing wrong, but not only, that he said, he could prove it he had a secret recording, tha was going to clear his name. >> coming up >> well, you can searc everything i own, you're not gonna find anything. >> the battle to get a hold of that recording and then, what it reveals. >> when you heard that tape,
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what did you think >> i'm a cop, 11 years, but on this planet 40 i blushed, when i listen to th tape >> when, dateline continues. (christine) my son really had to be head of the household because i became a dependent. my tip is every time i want to smoke a cigarette, i would think of my children. ( announcer) you can quit. for free help, call 1-800-quit-now that's some bad luck brian. and i think i'm late on my car insurance. good thing the general gives you a break when you need it. yeah, with flexible payment options to keep you covered. so today is your lucky...day [crash] so today is your lucky...day for a great low rate, go with the general. jasmine esmont of, it wa
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monowitz, a mechanic, said h thought he was being set up to be the fall guy, in this highl public case. >> he was concerned that because she has money and he doesn't, that he's gonna get the short end of the stick >> yeah, he did say that she's a rich woman, and i know that how this goes, and he expressed a great deal o concern about that >> it seems like, obviousl since she's rich, it's gonna b my bleep >> i can care less what she is >> in the interrogation, but ultimately last nearly eight hours. detective howard cole try to keep him talking, even the suspect testicles patience >> he thought he was smarter than, as you want to control the interview, and truthfull drove me crazy >> where we can share search your home. because you've got an iq, an i'm going to >> it is walking around th interrogation room, talk about iq, the her that'll up for suspects >> now the overtly
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come from most of them to think, it is prepared for them to say it >> no doubt about. but all continuous - >> and you know what, this i bs this right here is bs. and it's - because the storm is headed my way. >> oh, it is >> eventually, osmanovic relented he admitted, he may have known cohen. >> do you or do you not know >> i might have seen her >> but osmanovic said, even if you did know, when he can stil prove his innocence. >> he kept talking like code, one point i was like, you know i don't understand we ar trying to tell me. just explain to me what you tr to tell me and he says, you know how you, cops have videos in this, that i have my own audio. -- it was willing to share th secret audiotape investigators >> he has to this exculpatory.
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>> i'm in here telling him he's faced - if i don't get it now, extortion. >> automotive it insisted, tha secret recording made would be his get out of jail free card. the length, it was something >> mid, hey it's not going nowhere and my possession. which i hid way off th location >> why would you do that >> remember the iq part? >> yeah. i might even played for fuel but i'm not an idiot >> even under the threat o arrest, he refused to hand ove the recording, or give its location >> it was just a war o attrition, and he knew that he was in it up to his eyeballs >> the next, day after his interrogation was completed.
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detective cole received some crucial information about that recording. >> we learned of the existence of the tape from jasmine, th next morning, we learned o it's possible location >> a location was osmanovi home his ex girlfriend had gotten hold of, it and turn it over t osmanovic sister, and she then give it to an attorney we got a call from a defense attorney in jacksonville, and, said i think we have something you might be interested in >> finally, investigators ha the tape and when they press play they couldn't believe what the heard. >> that recording led sherif david shore to call a pres conference >> he had a major announcement >> as our investigation is developed, we arrested quinn gray >> quit coming up, just what was on the tape? >> it's compelling it was the icing on the cake there is a point of no retur
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hotel, she's been seen stand a a hotel all night long >> at last, investigators ha the secret recording, that jasmin osmanovic had tantalizingly refused to tur over but far from exonerating him it offered plenty of evidenc against him. >> it's compelling it was the icing on the cake that's the point of no retur for quinn, there's a of no return for osmanovic >> on that recording investigators heard completely different story forward couldn't gray had said happened, during horror we deal
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>> but recording started o that monday, when quinn is still missing. jasmine narrated as he drove alone, to emerson in >> she stayed the whole nigh by herself, she did want me to stay with her, so i'm goin right now back to their. >> the recording continued wit jasmine entering room 207. investigators were shocked, as they listened, because qui gray didn't sound like a captive at all in fact, she seemed to be in o the whole thing. >> i don't know what the new planets. >> well, we will see >> just tell me you haven't. >> yeah. >> they call the cops an everything i mean i've got a differen plan >> as motivation then seemed t mock the man hunt thos underway to find queen >> if they just knew your here by yourself all night long they would have a fifth.
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>> that's why i'm starting t feel like i'm the sinister one dina's my family >> i know my girls think right now? i wonder if you have any ide what's going on? >> he went to the hotel an talk to the people that work t the hotel, they set, she sat i the cart while he was checking in, their hand in hand in fact, he left the room, man times during the weekend >> and remember those bruise marks quinn said she got fro being supplied to a chair? according suggested, quinn mad them herself >> and we have a few mor myself untimely stories. >> it was one last night >> well that's from the rope, was doing the rope >> are you are doing that? >> yeah. >> here's michael. >> i've got a couple of bruises, i mean that we don't have a -- clue what's going on >> and, then the reports that, recording but made even vetera investigators blush. on the tape, the two had wha
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sounds like intimate consensua sex. nothing like the rape, queen described. >> there's read get this muc action >> you know he doesn't >> the sheriff said that, from the get-go, he and fbi officials were suspicious abou this case. questioning if this was legitimate objection but they had no option, they said that the proceeds of quin really had been taken hostage. >> and the, end the recordin osmanovic gave, give him all the prove they needed, this is not a kidnapping, but rather an elaborate hoax. and fears real gold, was t extort $50,000 from queens husband, read. >> we all smelled a rat. it just wasn't right >> the remaining things in the just add up. it started with the ransom note it was in queens a handwriting an unusually long. secondly, investigators neve
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needed to ask for proof of lif during the abduction, becaus the kidnappers regularly allowed quinn to talk on the phone. and finally, there is quinn' shocking debriefing, where she said she enjoyed having se with a man she described as he captor >> and i acted like i enjoye it, and sometimes almost did >> as one of its real later, say that he aim quin met b chance at the gas station, weeks earlier. -- something that was strongl suggested by the recording >> right now i feel craz about. when i was monowitz told different stories of how the whole kidnapping plot involved but authorities suggest th queen's motive was to get th
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money. leave her husband, and start a new life >> when i stick to it. >> - >> but clearly, as monowit wasn't convinced quinn would stick to their story >> you think you made the tape because you thought that a some point he was gonna ge accused of kidnapping her, and he needed to prove that it wasn't his idea. >> or, that it was her idea, and i went along for the ride. as probably as my thing for hi to do. because it revealed to us, i no uncertain terms, that quinn was not a victim >> your hands in front of you. >> jasmin osmanovic wa arrested for extortion and before the sheriff publicl announced quinn's arrest, he had a heart to heart talk with her husband. >> tough conversation for yo to have. >> yeah, your spouse made this thing up, and shared relations with the guy that we know is
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consensual, because we've got tape recording, and it's crystal clear. how do you process tha information? >> one day after osmanovic arrest, quin gray was placed i custody. >> we arrested, quin gray this was an extortion attempt, from the beginning, it's not kidnapping >> he pleaded not guilty, afte her arrest she was - >> found a $50, 000, i take it out bank account >> did you have a sexual relationship that is monowitz? >> - why would you make this up >> because he is a criminal, because he came in and tried t extort $50,000 from me >> and, in another shockin twist, he decided to stand b his wife >> i want my wife to come ou of this, i wanted to feel grea everything after this is over,
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i think that's gonna be th outcome. >> coming up >> a rollercoaster of emotions from the onset, but i believe, in my heart she was kidnapped. >> her husband seemed to b standing by quinn, but what di your mother think? >> you believe she's telling the truth? >> and then, what kind of lega price would quinn pay for he escapade >> the strengths of our case were, all the times, the queen gray was left alone. >> when dateline, continues. >>
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even appeared on the today show, and offered total support fo quinn. >> it's been a rollercoaster o emotion from the onset, ther are times when you sit in fron of the fbi, and they present with evidence that as she wa the mastermind of this, and yo have no choice but to believe, that entirely at that point. but i believe in all my hear that she was kidnapped >> kim's mom also stood firmly behind her daughter, sam jasmine as monowitz was to blame. not quinn. >> i believe she's jus manipulated, and our min snapped. >> you believe she's telling the truth? >> absolutely. >> the fbi and the sheriff d not. >> well, they don't understand what can happen to a person wh has a mental illness >> gail sykes says her daughte suffers from bipolar disorder. former mountain on this mark b manic, oz and peaked impressions.
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she's a very fragile situation among things that once qui stopped me now as self medicating with alcohol. her bipolar disorder suddenl emerge and he said her family had a history of maple it is for >> i know something is not right because that's something i know >> when thought hurtado had strong defense, she said tha on the, tape as monowitz sai he would release kim it's one of the few places o the tape, where he sounds like her captor, and not her lover. >> row sunday one, right that was because of quinn' mental condition that he daughter had sex with as monowitz
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>> i started blowing in our ear, i think she just wanted to fee the comfort and the feeling of feel insecure, and loved, maybe? >> with the guy who had just brutally abducted her? >> in her mental state, yes. i believe that is exactly what happened to her. >> that doesn't make her sounding a victim? >> well, we have to think it through a little bit mor carefully. she thought this, man is going to save my life. as can restore me to my family >> when's mom also points, how investigators were never abl to document the supposed affai between queen and osmanovic. investigators admit, the couldn't find a shred of evidence, that the two had any relationship, before that labo day weekend. >> as we give you any pause it all, there is no proof tha those two knew each othe before labor day weekend >> you know, it does and i
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doesn't. regardless when that relationship, started they kne each, other and there ar involved in each other >> but the prosecutor in the case, jennifer dudley, says he office was never shown any proof, the queen really does suffer from mental illness >> there isn't anything to indicate that quiroz already diagnosed with bipolar >> no, her doctor had made the assertion, and he believed she was but i pull, or although he backed off that a little, an said she did not meet all th criteria >> in january of 2010, fou months after the incident. jasmin osmanovic pleaded guilt to extortion in court, experiences th formerly happy, perhaps be a arrogant mechanic, now appeare looking like a man who's bee had. >> because he's a criminal - >> but quinton gray decided to continue her fight, and th
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state of florida prepared it case against a wealthy mom >> the strengths of our case where, all the times that quin gray was left alone. she is left alone several time overnight, she is often left i cars, and mr. osmanovic made trips into various businesses. >> all proving that sh could've walked away, if you wanted to. therefore it wasn't real kidnapping >> what was the truth? and one point, read gray arranged a private lie detecto test for his wife. and according to assistant state attorney done, the results were not what expected >> i've provided, records that she did not pass the polygraph and i believe at some, point h also indicated he eventually listened to that tape, which h had not listened to previously >> doesn't need to get thi much action? >> you know he doesn't >> it's not a dumb, man is a smart man, his a successfu
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businessman, who's connectin the dots to. >> great great eventuall changed his mind ouellette -- i was 2010, he was granted a divorce, and now shares custod of the couple's daughters. reed did not want to b interviewed by dateline. told us i wanted to thank la enforcement and the state, for all the hardworking efforts, t ensure the safety of my family >> and perhaps quinn was ready to move on with her life a well a. if every of 2011, she pleaded no contest t extortion. >> something her mom had encouraged i don't know a jury to fin guilty, and senator prison >> no one no contest plea -- is basically admitting you guilt. >> they should not have to g to prison. >> quinn sent a statement, saying, she was abducted a gunpoint
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and did now not ever kne jasmin osmanovic but added, i do not deny all forms of responsibility fo things that occurred after the abduction. and she says, because of m mental state at the time, he past experiences, and of refresh recovery fro alcoholism, osmanovic was able to manipulate my every thought and completely altered m belief system about my life. i made the decision to accept no contest plea, to avoid lengthy, salacious trial that could've furthe emotionally harmed my family and mental health. and my road to recovery. quin gray and jasmin osmanovic were both sentenced to tim served in jail, give probation. and, ordered to repay total of $86,000 in overtime costs, tha were run up by all the law enforcement personnel, who would work that we can tryin to find quinn.
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both declined to b interviewed. both, are now free, an apparently they're no longer coconspirators, or lover's >> what's in this frequent gray? >> i don't know. >> i mean, if she divorces her husband, should get a lot more than $50,000 >> that's, it is a call fo help it's a psychological call fo help i don't know the answer to that was it a desperate act to ge attention? i don't know the answer to that, but i can tell you, she sure picked a very colorful way t do it. >> it's hard to pull off a fak kidnapping, just is. >> that's all for, now i'm lester holt, for all of us a nbc news, thanks for watching. ♪ this sunday, supreme uncertainty. >> the supreme court keeps the abortion pill available for now
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