arriving and their location is unknown. >> there's no confirmation they had filled the vessel's fuel tanks, nor confirmation that they took on food and supplies. >> reporter: the group was traveling on the o'brien's 44 foot sailing vessel, ocean bound with minimal technology on board, and may have encountered winds over 30 knots and 20 foot waves. . >> it certainly is significant, and would have affected how fast they were able to transport up the coast. >> reporter: the disappearance comes a month after four americans were kidnapped, two of them killed likely by drug cartels. while the three missing sailors set sail from a do not travel zone, the coast guard says they are focusing on the search and rescue operation. >> hopefully somebody sees them and gets them to make contact or relay some messages out there. >> reporter: the families of the lost sailors hopeful their experience at sea will help them

make a safe return home miguel almaguer, msnbc news. we have a lot to cover in our second hour of "chris jansing reports. let's get right to it. >> at this hour, new details in the growing story coming out of the doj that we just broke on msnbc minutes ago. what we know about the two people arrested for operating an illegal overseas police station of the chinese government right here in lower manhattan. plus, inside a massive prisoner swap in ukraine a live report on the ground where more than 100 prisoners of war were just released as part of the major exchange with russia what kevin mccarthy calls a ticking time bomb. the republican leaders no holds bars speech on the country's debt before the new york stock exchange plus, the white house responds a very different view of the problem by the biden

administration and their take on the upcoming debt ceiling battle our nbc news reporters are following all of the latest developments let's begin with house speaker kevin mccarthy, speaking to a different influential floor this morning at the new york stock exchange garrett haake joins me from capitol hill mccarthy's speech was focused oon the debt ceiling, what's the goal here? >> i think you had two goals, first to start floating elements of what will be the house plan once it comes together to raise the debt ceiling at least into next year by rolling back spending levels to 2022 levels he didn't get into a ton of specifics beyond that. you've got a plan that's coming into shape there on the house republican side. but really, i think his bigger goal was to try to jump start negotiations with president biden by raising the stakes a little bit, both by shaking up things on wall street and nationally, trying to make this a key issue again. just listen to some of the rhetoric he used to describe the debt problem and the need to

address this issue in this speech. >> without exaggeration, american debt is a ticking time bomb that will detonation unless we take serious responsible action yet, how is president biden reacted to this issue? he has done nothing. >> reporter: now, chris, i was just over in a press conference with chuck schumer, the democratic leader, the democratic controlled senate who would agree with the second part of that, it's time to do some action here. they're not satisfied with what they have seen from mccarthy with both chambers coming back into session after a few weeks off, there's a new sense of urgency starting to address this issue hopefully before we get too close to the deadline. >> garrett headache,aake, thank that the white house responded arguing that it's mccarthy holding the u.s. economy hostage. i want to bring in nbc's allie

raffa. what happens now, allie? >> reporter: it looks like both sides here, the president and speaker mccarthy are really dug in where they stand, even despite that rough early to mid summer dead palesline to raise debt ceiling quickly approaching, and we know that the president, we know that speaker mccarthy met back in february we don't know of any further meetings or conversations between these two since then despite several public invitations on behalf of the public to do that. after this speech from speaker mccarthy this morning, it's really unclear how any further and future conversations between these two may go considering that the white house is still waiting for republicans' budget proposal details and this proposal by mccarthy to potentially delay that vote, delay the raising of that debt ceiling further into next year, an election year that is exactly the opposite of what the white house wants right now. deputy press secretary andrew bates responding to his speech, mccarthy's speech in a new

statement saying in part, quote, speaker mccarthy is breaking with the bipartisan norm he followed under trump by ingaengaging in economic hostage taking in 2019 donald trump himself said i can't imagine anybody ever even thinking of using the debt ceiling as a negotiating wedge. this morning speaker mccarthy did just that. chris, the white house and overwh overwhelmingly democrats for the most part say it is irresponsible for republicans to be taking this stance considering the economic situation, so the white house still hoping to raise that debt ceiling and then work out any specific budget negotiations later down the road, chris >> allie raffa, thank you for that nbc's ellison barber has more on that orthodox easter surprise from ukraine 130 soldiers returning home from russian captivity. first of all, we loved having you here, but it's good to see you back reporting from their. what do we know about these

troops, and how did this swap come about >> reporter: yeah, so this is interesting because an adviser to presidential zelenskyy, he says the 130 ukrainian service members who have been returned, that it was part of what he describes as a big easter swap according to ukrainian officials the ukrainian service members, prisoners of war who are now back in ukraine, they range in age from 28 to 51. they say that they are all back safely they released video of some of that journey, but initially, reports of this exchange first surfaced from the russian side of things, specifically the private military company, the wagner group they have operated heavily along the eastern front lines in the bakhmut area there was a post on their official telegram page with video that appeared to show the leader of that group ordering men in military uniforms some of them with russian flags

on the back of the uniform to feed and prepare the ukrainian soldiers to then get on a bus, and they show them being boarded on to buses so they could be home in time for easter with their families russia's ministry of defense has not yet commented on this at all. what we don't know right now is how many russian prisoners of war were exchanged for these ukrainian soldiers it's notable that russia's ministry of defense has not commented on this just yet they typically do. the american-based institution for the study of war, they say the fact that we have not heard from russia's ministry of defense specifically here, and instead seems to have been exchanged organized by the wagner group, led by them, and made public by their leader first, it perhaps suggests that group acted alone in organizing this, and the fact that we don't know how many russian soldiers were exchanged or who they were could suggest, they say, that these were high value service members for the wagner group, and that they wanted to get them

back because they are low on manpower, particularly in the eastern front in bakhmut where we still are seeing the bloodiest bath skplsbattles any needed to make this exchange. >> ellison barber, thank you so much i want to go back to the breaking news we brought you about 20 minutes ago, the justice department announcing charges linked to an illegal police station allegedly connected to the chinese government and operating out of new york city. nbc's ken dilanian has spent that time digging through this announcement and the charges ken, what more have you learned? >> it's so fascinating, chris. just for context, a human rights group last year identified 110 overseas chinese police stations around the world this, we believe, is the first time that it's been charged as a crime in the united states, and what the complaint says is that essentially these two men were running what they called an overseas police station in chinatown in new york city, and in some cases, these police

stations provide services to the community of overseas chinese in whatever city they're in but in this case, what the justice department is saying is they were also instruments of repression by the chinese state. they were harassing dissidents they were trying to persuade people wanted in china on corruption charges which may or may not be valid, to go back to china from the united states, by putting pressure on them and their families they were engaged in all sorts of behavior on behalf of china, according to this complaint, without registering with the attorney general, which is a crime. and allegedly deleting e-mail messages that were incriminating. what the justice department is saying is this is part of a larger scheme of what they call transnational repression by china around the world china believes, and there's a law in china that says that chinese overseas in other countries are subject to chinese law and authority. the united states doesn't see it that way if you're a u.s. resident, you're subject to u.s. law, and china is not allowed to come over here and start targeting

dissidents and trying to repress people, and so the doj bringing this case today. >> ken dilanian, thank you so much appreciate you bringing us that breaking news. house republicans were on a field trip to new york today for a hearing about crime after the arrest of former president trump. the potential political and legal implications in just 60 seconds. >> tech: when you have auto glass damage, trust safelite. we'll replace your windshield, and recalibrate your advanced safety system. so automatic emergency braking and lane departure warning work properly. >> singers: ♪ safelite repair, safelite replace. ♪ mara, are you sure you don't want -to go bowling with us tonight? -yeah. no. there's my little marzipan! [ laughs ] oh, my daughter gives the best hugs! we're just passing through on our way to the jazz jamboree. [ imitates trumpet playing ] and we wanted to thank america's number-one motorcycle insurer -for saving us money. -thank you. [ laughs ] mara, your parents are -- exactly like me? i know, right?

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using their power to try to help expresident trump beat the 34 counts of fraud that he has been charged with. >> i want to bring in "washington post" congressional investigations reporter who covered the house judiciary field, jackie alemany. also with us, former u.s. attorney joyce vance in set, in studio so glad to have you here how did this hearing play out today, and what does it mean for the larger battle between bragg and the house gop we have seen playing out for a number of weeks now? >> yeah, i think it's really important to start with the facts here which is that in bragg's first year in office in 2022, which was the center of the hearing, this morning, there were 78 homicides in manhattan which was a drop of 15% from the year before, a helpful statistic that the associated press called out was that in palm beach county, there were just as many residents as new york. there were 96 homicides. that is why i think it's

important to view this hearing in the context of jim jordan's last few weeks he has sent letters to alvin bragg since former president trump's indictment where he appeared in new york and pled not guilty to 34 counts against him with regards to a 2016 hush money payment that was paid. he has claimed that bragg's office is subject to congressional scrutiny since it has federal grants and he subpoenaed some of the prosecutors, the former prosecutor, mark pomerance to come speak to the judiciary committee about the ongoing investigation into donald trump. i'm not necessarily sure if the committee today accomplished any goal with regards to actually reducing crime in new york city, but it certainly accomplished jim jordan's message of grabbing headlines in terms of defending the former president against bragg's indictment.

>> joist, clearly there is that political statement there, you know, and obviously premised on an incorrect premise about how crime is running rampant in new york but could it influence anything legally as well? >> it really won't it's not much more than a raw effort to abuse political power, and we see this with the justice department, when doj is subpoenaed for information about ongoing criminal cases, they refuse to do so, as they should. we have the separation of powers in this country that prohibits members of congress from trying to influence criminal prosecutions you could imagine how bad that could get if every member of congress had the ability to interfere with the prosecution of one of their friends. here it's worse, there's this federalism aspect. congress has no legitimate ability to oversee the work of state and local prosecutors, so the raw politics here on full display and the timing makes that plain this hearing was announced after

trump was indicted it was rushed into being and it's just nothing that will influence the legal landscape. >> does the d.a. have any legal avenues against what he sees as political incursion? we saw, obviously, that he has sued representative jordan. >> right he's filed this lawsuit, and he's asking the federal court to issue a declaratory judgment saying congress can't issue subpoenas, if they're trying to get information about an ongoing case but he has bent over backwards in a letter to the members of congress to say if there is other information that you have legitimate legislative oversight, we'll be happy to sit down with you and provide you with information i think this lawsuit will help to define the responsibilities here. >> talk a little bit, if you will, jackie, and ryan nobles was talking about this earlier i mean, it seemed like at times, it got pretty wild, but i wonder if this is going to make any actual impact in washington,

d.c. it is what it is, people know what it is and next >> right that is the question, chris, and that is why these members of congress were allegedly holding this hearing in the first place. there was one moment of the hearing that stood out to me in particular, which is where congresswoman madeleine dean quoted the episode of succession last night, and logan royce hanging what royce said, if these people are not -- you are not serious people, and that if republicans were serious about doing something about violence, they wouldn't necessarily be holding this hearing, but they would be engaging in legislative fixes. she named gun violence and federal gun control laws, including universal background checks and an assault weapons ban that is currently on the table in the u.s. congress which republicans have historically not supported. but republicans on the other hand, have called more attention

obviously to this internal memo that brag authored, that his office would not prosecute certain low level misdemeanors that came out when bragg first entered office there's a difference of opinion about what needs to be done to address the issue of crime, and does not seem like either side came to any sort of resolution on what can be done from a legislative standpoint >> jackie alemany, always great to have you on the program and thank you for no spoiler alert on succession, really, because i haven't even started the season thank you for that joyce, i want to keep you hear for just a minute. we have been talking about the breaking news that happened maybe now a half hour, 45 minutes ago, that doj had this press conference, i know you were following, and i think you and danny were talking about it as i could see out of the corner of my eye. what do you make of them charging to folks in new york city for what they're callinga illegal overseas police station? >> right, so we'll have to learn

more as we see a little bit more of doj's paper work. but the basic problem here legally is a failure to register by these essentially representatives of the chinese government who are engaging in conduct. what one suspects the sub text here is that there is an effort that would be illegal in this country to influence people who china wants to return to china to stop their activist activity in new york. this wouldn't be the first time. sometimes diplomatic measures fail, and in this case, doj got involved there's some suggestion that they executed a search warrant last fall that shut down the sort of police operation for lack of a better term, but now they're actually taking the step of prosecuting it. sort of a name and shame exercise to put china on notice that we're aware of what they're doing, and we won't tolerate it. >> such interesting stuff. you're going to stick with us. we have some other things to talk about, but we also want to say that today the u.s. ambassador to russia, lynn

tracy, visited the wrongfully detained "wall street journal" journalist, evan gersh kovich fr the first time ever. russia accused him of espionage and he's facing 20 years in prison nbc senior white house continue kelly o'donnell has more details on the visit this is something that the u.s. government has been wanting to do for the weeks, now two weeks, more than two weeks he's been detained what did we hear from the ambassador >> good to be with you, chris, and this is a significant development because this allows the united states government to have had one-on-one direct contact with evan gershkovich and to see how he's doing in confinement. he's wrongfully detained as the united states has declared that, and that's after a very careful assessment of his background, determining that he is, in fact, an accredited reporter this was an inappropriate and

unlawful arrest made by russia, and lynn tracy, who is a career foreign service officer speaks russian, has an extensive background in that part of the world, has herself come under attack in past posts where she has been working on behalf of the u.s. government, so this is somebody with a lot of experience in diplomacy. she was able to see van gershkovich, says he is in good spirits and remains strong the "wall street journal" has also been very engajged in this as his employer and trying to be in contact with gershkovich as well all sides are saying this man must be freed, that he was arrested improperly, unlawfully, and is being detained in a way that contravenes the normal dealings between two countries like the united states and russia they are saying this is a chilling effect on journalists he has been accredited and working in russia for a

considerable period of time, and then over the last couple of weeks has been in detention. so a significant breakthrough today, and at least being able to have human contact from a high level american official to evan gershkovich, and ambassador tracy posted on twitter giving that update on his condition that's a positive sign a lot more has to be done to get him free >> without a doubt kelly o'donnell, thank you for that. a high stakes trial between fox news and dominion voting is pushed back. and a possible breakthrough in tfighting cancer. could it pave the way for more vaccines in the future. it will take you to a farm unlike anything you have seen before it's also aimed at saving the planet you're watching "chris jansing reports" only on msnbc

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we just got a direct response from manhattan d.a. alvin bragg to what we saw today here in manhattan, jim jordan and other republicans on the judiciary committee came here to say, alvin bragg is ignoring crime. they planned this hearing after the indictment of donald trump, and democrats say it's just a political stunt, well, here's what alvin bragg thinks of this. among the things he says in the statement, he tweeted, ending violence, stopping crime and supporting victims and their families are the most sacred duties of the manhattan d.a.'s office d.a. bragg is reducing crime in manhattan. reversing a tough spike that began even before he took office virtually every major crime category is lower in manhattan now than it was last year, and he adds, for outside politicians to now appear in new york city on the taxpayer dime for a political stunt is a slap in the face to the dedicated nypd officers, prosecutors, and other public servants who worked

tirelessly every day with facts and data to keep our home safe so it continues. meantime, new reports today, that fox news and dominion voting systems may be working on a settlement deal to sidestep what would almost certainly be a long, expensive and contentious trial. today's jury selection has been moved to tomorrow. "the washington post" and "wall street journal" each cite multiple sources for their stories. this is from the post. quote, two people familiar with the case said the two sides are scheduled to meet monday as in today to determine if a last-minute deal to avoid trial could be brokered. one of the people said the judge had asked the parties to make a final effort to settle the issue before proceeding with a trial nbc news has not confirmed that reporting. and the judge wouldn't confirm the talks either saying in court this is not a press conference legal experts note the landmark case could amount to disinformation itself being put on trial

nbc's emilie ikeda joins us from outside the courthouse in wilmington, delaware also joining me, joyce vance is still here, former u.s. attorney and msnbc legal analyst. so how did the judge explain the delay and how might affect the schedule going forward assuming the trial does go forward? >> reporter: i can tell you, we were hoping for official insight on this as to why the trial was delayed by about 24 hours from the judge. it was merely a formal announcement lasted a few minutes, short and sweet. he said this kind of delay is kind of unusual. he underscored how he has not gone through a trial lasting more than two weeks without a delay, and says they anticipate this sort of thing to happen and build it into the anticipated time line, in this case, running about six weeks. this all comes as you mentioned, those reports swirl around the idea that there could be these last minute settlement talks happening at the moment. keep in mind that settlement can be reached at any point until a verdict is rendered.

at this point, as the plan stands for tomorrow, we will see the jury selection process finalize first, and once the jury is seated, we'll go into open arguments, dominion will lead that and then fox will follow i'll add this in the theme of last minute changes in a new filing from fox, its lawyers say they believe dominion actually kicked back its damages claim, the original one, by about half a billion dollars. fox has said that dominion has inflated its damages estimates dominion disputing that and saying that it has not reduced its claim, something that we could learn more when things get underway tomorrow, chris. >> joyce, do you read anything into this, if indeed the judge said and it wouldn't be unusual, try one more time, sit down, see if you can settle this doesn't mean either side is serious about it or could it mean that? >> it's not unusual at all sometimes parties will feel more pressure as trial draws closer, and it's worth giving it a second look.

judges don't conduct settlement negotiations, but it's fair for them to create the space for the parties to do that one last time and it's expensive to go to trial. when you're looking at five to six weeks of trial, there's a lot of expense there's some uncertainty for dominion, even in a very strong case, you never know for sure what a jury will do. so it's not out of the ballpark for them to sit down and talk, but it seems unlikely that we'll see a settlement in such a narrow, compressed period of time maybe they'll continue to talk once the trial gets underway >> and i forget what the theory is called, but you get so deep into it already, it's hard to pull back. we have already seen thousands of pages of exhibits, filings, depositions released even before this trial started, right? so if they think there's a chance they can win it, we're talking about not just a lot of money here, but i think, you know, a lot of people have suggested disinformation is on trial here >> right there's a lot of reputational concern around this sort of

business defamation. and dominion, the damages that they have alleged are $1.6 billion in compensatory damages in lost business might they be happier if they could get some certainty and get smaller damages? that might be the case there's a large possibility of punitive damages, purely punishment for fox, and as you suggest, that could amount to damages to punishment for spreading disinformation the public may feel very strongly about those claims. dominion, i think, will make a hard and fast, hard-headed calculation about risks of going to trial here. >> if this does go to trial, weeks could go beyond that, do you think? i mean, is it predictable, you know, three to five weeks, are these things usually on the money? >> so typically trials take a little bit less time than the parties allow for them judges will often, you know, ask how long do you think your case will take, and in advance of

trial, you might think you'll put on more witnesses or they'll take more time there's no exact science here. the clock is ticking for tofox n this behind the dominion case, other legal pressure from stockholders, it doesn't get any better for them after this >> all right joyce vance, loved having you here, thank you so much. emilie ikeda, thank you so much as well. a former ron desantis opponent is on trial for federal corruption charges in florida. andrew gillham is accused of defrauding campaign donors out of more than $50,000, and lying to the fbi gillam has denied the alleg allegations. for the first time ever, a vaccine is showing it could help prevent a high risk cancer from coming back. could it pave the way to fight

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there are people watching this who may have a recurrence, people who know someone who has a recurrence is it even possible to predict a time line for when these might be available >> you know, so we're entering phrase 3, so, you know, these phases are confusing even to us doctors here phase 3 for the melanoma vaccine trial, the mrna vaccine for melanoma, after that, it's phase 4 and final studies. phase 3 is one of the last steps before we can talk about fda evaluation of the study. is this truly safe and effective. phase 2 really answers that question pretty convincingly in 150 patients we're going to see phase 3 look at it over thousands of patients the time to market here, the time to get into more people's hands is how quickly can we do these studies, how many thousands of people can we do to confirm what we saw in phase one and two. >> so great to talk to you today. appreciate it. >> thank you.

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honoring the victims and the survivors. nbc's kathy park is there just beyond the finish line i see a few people walking behind you, looks like they made it what's been the mood on the ground there, kathy? >> reporter: hey, chris, good afternoon to you well, as you mentioned, we are just yards away from the finish line, and the wave of people you see behind me just finished 26.2 miles. they started in hopkinton, they cross over eight cities and towns and finally made it to boston quite a feat, the energy is very light. there's a lot of excitement, especially for those who wrapped up this race just moments ago. but obviously this comes on the heels of a very somber anniversary, as you mentioned this weekend, there were several events and programs held to remember the lives lost, the survivors, and also the first responders who rushed in that day to save so many lives. in fact, on saturday, there was a dedication right at the finish line, a special dedication with

all of the victims' family members who were in attendance it was open to the public as well in the afternoon, and then the bells rang out on saturday marking the exact times when those bombs went off but 30,000 runners representing more than 100 countries, but even those who were not directly impacted by the bombings, they felt compelled to run. they say that the stories of perseverance, grit and resilience encouraged them to enter this year's race take a listen. >> it just brought back a whole bunch of memories from boston strong, and, you know, it's really emotional knowing that the martin family is here and with the two memorials, it's more than running to me. it's more than running but it makes you want to run more it inspires you. >> reporter: so, chris, once again, we are seeing a wave of finishers. we're told we're kind of at the

halfway mark, so we anticipate thousands more crossing that finish line momentarily. but worth noting that there were two winners, no records broken but both winners from kenya, evans tibet, finished the course 2 hours 5 minutes, 55 seconds. quite impressive considering the weather, didn't really cooperate. wasn't in their favor today. pretty cold and rainy, but they got through it. >> i got to tell you, as someone who covered the bombing and was there for many days after, it's just so inspirational to hear the guy you spoke with, to see all of those runners, and the fact that they can still be up right after running 26 plus miles is amazing to me in and of itself kathy park, thank you so much. appreciate it. and best of luck to all the runners, including my niece who is probably about mile marker 21 right now. with congress divided and the 2024 campaigns heating up,

few are expecting a major legislative breakthrough on capitol hill this year except, perhaps, in one area big tech from national security to the mental health of children, lawmakers are saying a rare window of opportunity to reach across the aisle and reign in big tech nbc news senior congressional reporter scott wong is following that bipartisan push on capitol hill there are so many ways big tech interacts with our lives, but so many ways that lawmakers seem to find ways not to get things done what is the real possibility there? are they getting started >> well, chris, number one, you know, there's this big bipartisan push to crack down on tiktok maybe that won't be an all out ban on tiktok, but lawmakers certainly want to put pressure on the social media giant to perhaps force a sale to a u.s. entity secondly, chuck schumer, the

senate majority leader has been circulating a plan to -- with some of his colleagues to regulate artificial intelligence, the self-learning artificial intelligence. and so, you know, part of the challenge, of course, is that china has already moved forward with its own plan to regulate ai, and so chuck schumer's argument is that we don't want to be, you know, playing catch up to china. we want to stay competitive. we want to be leaders in the ai front, especially with some of this emerging technology like chatgpt that's become so popular in recent months and then finally, chris, you know, the place where a lot of lawmakers say something really can get done this year even with a divided government is protecting young children and teenagers online who use social

media. we have seen researchers tie social media to things like depression, eating disorders, even suicide, and so, you know, folks like ro khanna, the liberal from silicon valley and ted cruz, the conservative who leads commerce committees. they agree this is the low hanging fruit for congress to tackle something on big tech richard blumenthal, who leads one of these bills says that, look, if congress can't come together and protect children when it comes to social media, then shame on us chris? >> yeah, you know, it is absolutely as you say, not often you see them looking in the same direction. scott wong, thank you so much for that. well, you've never seen a farm like this after the break, al roker has got the inside scoop on what aqua farmers are doing to fight climate change and boost our economy. this helps put people to work in a way that helps sustain

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we've got breaking news from capitol hill, john fetterman just arrived for the first time in nearly two months he waved to focuses as he got out of the car the first time since being hospitalized and receiving clinical treatment for depression here's what he had to say. >> hey, senator. >> welcome back, senator. >> how are you feeling, senator? >> senator, are you confident you can serve the full six years? >> it's great to be back thank you. >> it's good to be back. fetterman was released from walter reid medical center about two and a half weeks ago. a closer look at how scientists are fighting climate change nbc's al roker traveled coast to coast to visit aqua farms, an underwater sustainable way to raise seafood and plants

>> in oceans from the pacific to the atlantic, a new blue technique is taking hold, it's called aukqua culture combattin fishing, climate change, and endangers species. >> why are you investing in that >> this helps put people to work in a way that helps sustain ourselves. >> rafael castellanos runs the port of san diego's pilot blue economy program. that includes two aqua culture farms, underwater farming for sustainable seafood and shellfish. >> we were looking for new and innovative ways to solve some of the big environmental challenges that we're facing. >> the port worked with noaa, the national oceanic and atmospheric administration to help farmers like owner of sunken seaweed. >> when i think about a farm, i

don't think about seeing six buoys floating on the water, what is this >> what we're doing is testing the feasibility of different seaweed species that can be scaled up in southern california underneath the surface, i have a frame and it has lines going across it. there are so many applications of seaweed, i focus on food. i like feeding people. >> that's exactly what he did, tory and renowned chef, jo jo ruiz prepared a meal of fresh local aqua culture cuisine, an endangered native shellfish now being grown here at the port >> that was great. >> and seaweed, direct from tory's farm? >> it's kind of like eating freze but salty. >> seaweed production has increased globally by 75% in the past seven decades and in the u.s. seaweed farming is the fastest growing aqua culture

crop aqua culture farms like this one are the sustainable wave of the future coast to coast. i met with norm bloom who took me to his farm on long island sound. you're an oyster farmer, how did you get the idea >> the state started talking about it, and we were like let's make a go. >> sounds like you're almost ahead of the market. >> first we have to prove we can grow it. >> and how has that been going >> that's good >> sugar kelp like seaweed can be used in food, cosmetics or as potential biofuels. >> it's a new and emerging industry. >> the kelp harvested here at kobs island is staying all in the family, used in a cosmetics line designed by third generation farmer, genie bloom. >> does that feel somewhat satisfying that you're kuind of continuing in a way your family's legacy? >> i love merging the two together, and if it's good for the environment, it's good for y you.

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