are the sustainable wave of the future coast to coast. i met with norm bloom who took me to his farm on long island sound. you're an oyster farmer, how did you get the idea >> the state started talking about it, and we were like let's make a go. >> sounds like you're almost ahead of the market. >> first we have to prove we can grow it. >> and how has that been going >> that's good >> sugar kelp like seaweed can be used in food, cosmetics or as potential biofuels. >> it's a new and emerging industry. >> the kelp harvested here at kobs island is staying all in the family, used in a cosmetics line designed by third generation farmer, genie bloom. >> does that feel somewhat satisfying that you're kuind of continuing in a way your family's legacy? >> i love merging the two together, and if it's good for the environment, it's good for y you. >> al roker, nbc news.

that does it for us this hour "katy tur reports" starts right now. >> good to be with you, i'm katy tur, after a two-week break, congress is back to work, and boy is there a lot to do there is the debt ceiling, which still has not been raised. speaker mccarthy is in new york city today, courting wall street and arguing massive cuts to spending will be good for everyone he wants to get rid of a lot, and he's playing a game of chicken with the white house we're going to explain what mccarthy is doing by showing up in manhattan and why the speaker is betting president joe biden will ultimately negotiate. also here in new york, congressman jim jordan and the house judiciary committee are here the chair held a so-called field hearing on crime today jordan called it powerful. manhattan d.a. alvin bragg just called it a slap in the face to

the nypd we also have news on the senate side senators mitch mcconnell and john fetterman are back in washington after a respected medical can mental health treatments, but the upper chamber is not yet whole california senator dianne feinstein is still home with a bad case of shingles, and now her effort to get a temporary replacement on the senate judiciary committee is in trouble. multiple senate republicans say they will not help the democrats confirm judges by allowing them to replace feinstein which will mitch mcconnell, who, again, was just out on medical leave himself do joining me now with that grab bag of congressional news, nbc news senior capitol hill correspondent garrett haake, nbc news capitol hill correspondent ryan nobles who's got the lucky job of being in new york city today, and also with me is political white house reporter and msnbc political reporter, eugene daniels

ryan, i want to begin with you i don't want to say the hearing didn't go as planned because they got their witnesses off, but it was rocky in the beginning. can you explain? >> reporter: the entire hearin was very contentious at times. you have protesters from both sides of the argument cause ago raucous. some had to be physically removed from the building. what you saw was jim jordan attempting to establish a narrative here that the district attorney alvin bragg is soft on crime, and basically focusing on the wrong things, and while he never really brought up donald trump specifically, it was a clear undertone here that his prosecution of trump is allowing him to take his eye off the ball when it comes to some of these other crimes that have become a big problem in new york. democrats weren't buying that argument they said this whole thing was theater, a political stunt designed to help donald trump. listen to a little of the back and forth from earlier today >> here in manhattan, the scales

of justice are weighed down by politics for the district attorney justice isn't blind. it's about looking for opportunities to advance a political agenda >> let me be very clear. we are here today in lower manhattan for one reason and one reason only. the chairman is doing the bidding of donald trump. >> one of the things democrats argued is that the crime rate per capita here in manhattan is lower than it is in some of the district that these republican members of congress actually represent, but they did have powerful testimony from victims of violent crime here in new york, and there's no doubt that republicans view crime, not just here in new york, but across the country as a major issue heading into the 2024 election, so there were companion goals here, along with helping donald trump try and tarnish the image of alvin bragg, they also want to put crime front and center to the voters that will cast ballots in november in a little more than a year and a half. >> crime is a winner for them,

arguably so given the number of seats republicans were able to pick up in the state of new york that was part of the reason. part of the reason also why congressman lee zeldin came close to defeating kathy hochul. bragg tweeted some crime statistic. you were talking about how the crime statistic were higher in republican districts here's what alvin bragg says about manhattan, hburglary down 23%, transit crime down 11.5%. total crime down 2.4%. he's also saying that to have this field hearing here is a slap in the face of the hard work the nypd is doing give me an idea of what's going on with the field hearings i don't remember ever seeing one before

>> they're not out of the ordinary, they usually don't get enough attention a number of committees held field hearings this year the judiciary committee had one on the border, the ways and means committee held a field hearing in west virginia they're sometimes designed to get right to the heart of where the issue is, but, you know, i asked several republicans today, would you have had this field hearing if it weren't for donald trump's indictment, and none of them came right out and said yes, but they certainly danced around it and tried to refer back to the issue at hand, which is they're concerned about crime. they also say they plan on doing field hearings on crime specifically and a number of other cities around the country. we'll see if they'll make good on the promise field hearings not out of the order the way this one was conducted, though, was a little bit different given the sub text of everything else going on. >> new york city is so popular, not only do we have the field hearing led by jim jordan, but the speaker of the house, what's kevin mccarthy doing on wall street >> it was a beautiful time to visit new york city. i don't think that's why they're

there. mccarthy was on wall street today, speaking about the debt ceiling and what's become the outlines of a republican plan to get it raised. there's been this back and forth between mccarthy and the white house, house democrats, senate democrats about the best way forward on this. democrats for the longest time argued, do it clean, do it easy. raise the debt ceiling, no dwdwau default, no problem. and today, in front of that audience on wall street, he started to outline what a house republican plan would look like. here's some of what he said. >> a no strings attached debt limit increase will not pass in the coming weeks, the house will vote on a bill to lift the debt ceiling into the next year. save taxpayers trillions of dollars. make us less dependent on china. curve our high inflation all without touching social security and medicare. >> katie, as we have talked

about in other contexts, an outline, an 8-second sound bite version of a plan is not a bill that you can put on the floor and pass, and the response from senate democrats and from the white house thus far has been, okay, nice start, what's your real plan? what is your plan. kevin mccarthy wants to get into the oval office. he wants to sit down with joe biden and negotiate this and democrats have been putting up a pretty united front so far that they're not going to negotiate against themselves or against bullet points. they will talk, perhaps, when kevin mccarthy has something specific he wants to talk about. >> so eugene, he wants to, if this bill that he's talking about passes the house, it means it's going to be kicked out into a presidential cycle, year, a debt ceiling fight in a presidential year, which is risky for both sides why does he believe passing something in the house, even if it cannot pass the senate will force joe biden to the negotiating table? >> i think probably because joe biden said if you give us a bill, if you give a plan, let's

talk right they don't want to talk about it in the context of the debt limit, and that's where we find ourselves continuing to be at the impasse, the white house is saying, and president biden has said over and over again, we are happy to negotiate on spending cut, happy to negotiate and talk about the places where we can trim and not spend as much money, trying to make clear that he's not just a spending democrat there but then we don't want to talk about the debt limit every time that you talk to an adviser in the white house, somebody in biden world, the one thing they will continue to say and point to is donald trump, ronald reagan, these people that republicans hold in such high es tim teem do not want to negotiate over the debt limit. i can't imagine anyone ever thinking about yusing the debt ceiling as a negotiating wave for donald trump he wants kevin mccarthy to force this conversation, but he doesn't have a clear plan.

based on the fact that a lot of folks in his own party have not come to the same agreement they want to see in the plan, all of us are fascinated to see what the actual bill will look like, and the white house is too you know, a lot of advisers have said president biden is open to talking about that >> it's mid april, they've got a couple of months to figure this out by the estimates that are out there from janet yellen to the cbo, it's going to come due sometime this summer garrett, let me ask you about the other thing that's been causing some trouble in the senate, that is the absences, there was fetterman who was out. mitch mcconnell who was out, and dianne feinstein who is still out. what's the likelihood that republicans, mcconnell will acquiesce and allow majority leader schumer to replace her on the judiciary committee and the problem is democrats want to confirm judges and day can't do

so without her on that committee. >> that's more or less right, katy you have have a senate off to a historically sluggish start. the democrats have been able to continue confirming some of these biden nominated judges that pace has slowed down for a variety of reasons, among them, the absence of dianne feinstein, one of the senior democrats on the committee. i asked conshuck schumer about this she hopes to come back soon. a relative term in politics. we don't know what that means. the process to replace her on the judiciary committee could be simple if 100 senators agree, you can move pretty quickly. they would pass a new organizing resolution, swap another senator's name on there. that person could serve on a temporary basis on that committee. we already have heard from at least two republicans who don't want to make it that easy for democrats. so with the majority democrats could maybe go round up the 60 votes they need, find nine

republicans, and try to pass a resolution that would get somebody else on the committee, but that's the kind of thing that could take days if not longer, and, you know, it will tell us something about whether -- what schumer means by soon, if he decides to go through with a process that could be that long, that slow, that politically draining. if that's the case, that's the route he decides to take, that soon might not mean soon like you and i would use it on something else. >> i hope lawmakers got some rest, some sleep on their two week break from washington because they have a lot to do, and i imagine there will be pretty late nights garrett haake, ryan nobles, tha thank you very much. and chinese police stations, chinese police stations here in new york city. what the justice department says china was trying to do on american soil. plus, a 16-year-old mistakenly went to the wrong house to pick up his younger siblings when he rang the doorbell, the homeowner shot him twice now the shooter is out of custody and has not been

charged. we're going to try to explain what's going on. and iranian women are still protesting, what the country's authorities are now threatening for anyone who quote encourages it we're back in 60 seconds so it's decided, we'll park even deeper into parking spaces so people think they're open. surprise. [ laughs ] [ horn honks, muffled talking ] -can't hear you, jerry. -sorry. uh, yeah, can we get a system where when someone's bike is in the shop,

then we could borrow someone else's? -no! -no! or you can get a quote with america's number-one motorcycle insurer and maybe save some money while you're at it. all in favor of that. [ horn honking ] there's a lot of buttons and knobs in here. doj has filed a number of extraordinary filings in federal court today indicting multiple chinese officials and others for a broad and ambitious plan to manipulate u.s. public opinion and target chinese speaking dissenters at the same time, the fbi arrested two people for allegedly operating an illegal police station for the government of china in lower manhattan. joining me now is nbc news justice and intelligence correspondent, kennedy dilanian, what is the fbi alleging >> it's a remarkable case, katy.

what they're saying is these two chinese residents of new york city were operating what kay called an overseas police station in the heart of chinatown, but that actually they were agents of the chinese government seeking to harass and intimidate dissidents and in some cases, try to force them to return to china if they were wanted for a crime of corruption, and they did that without registering for the government the doj alleges they obstructed justice. this is a common tactic of the chinese government that counted more than 100 these overseas chinese police stations, that ostensibly are there to provide services for the overseas chinese committee, and actually ended up intimidating, and target, and harassing anyone who speaks against the government of china. >> explain the filings, the indictments. >> yeah, so that was the other case is a remarkable case to me, it's the most expensive doj indictment i have seen since the

2016 election and the famous indictment of the russian internet search agency, where the doj is providing the fruits of intelligence gathering, and the government is trying to actively manipulate public opinion by using fake accounts on social media. they don't say in this indictment how successful that was, how extensive it was. but they made clear this was a plan of the ministry of state security in china. it was part of what they called transnational suppression, aimed at chinese dissidents, which is a significant thing, and social media companies are trying to police these fake accounts but it appears they are not always successful, and these governments are trying to use propaganda in hidden ways to influence the american public. >> ken dilanian, thank you very much. and coming up next, what happened today to delay the start of the dominion lawsuit? we've got a reporter in delaware for what we know and whether a settlement is in the works

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is there a settlement in the works? "the washington post" and npr say discussions are actually happening between fox news and dominion, so far nothing has been announced and nbc news has not confirmed that reporting for his part, delaware's superior court judge eric davis who is overseeing the defamation

case says delays are normal and he plans to start jury selection tomorrow joining me now from wilmington is nbc news correspondent stephanie gosk and "new york times" political and investigative reporter and msnbc political analyst, nick co confascori what do you know >> not much. what he said to us as we were all gathered and it was basically all members of the media, he said my courtroom is not a press conference i do not hold press conferences in here. and he went on to say there will be a delay, which we knew because he told us last night, and he said they were going to move forward with proceedings tomorrow morning had a brief side bar with the lawyers for both sides, and then it was quickly over. as you mentioned issue there have been some reports that there are still negotiations going on, settlement negotiations, that can happen, really, at any point in this process. even in the build up as we're getting close to opening

statements, it can happen. as they yuf euphemistically say on the courthouse steps, and can happen when the jury gets the case and is deliberating at any moment in time it does look like for now, we're going to court tomorrow. >> lawyers for fox says dominion has lowered what they're seeking in damages by a half a billion dollars. what can you tell us on that front? >> yeah, well, i mean, this is interesting. fox has disputed the 1.6 billion in dollars that dominion has alleged that has been inflicted upon them in this process, but there is a dispute over the characterization of what dominion has done. fox says dominion has said they're going to roll back the profit damages to the tune of $600 million, with a billion dollars in reputational damage dominion hit back today from a spokesperson saying that's actually not true at all it still stands at $1.6 billion. >> all right the fact of this case hasn't

been settled already, nick, has been surprising to a lot of people who have been watching. they assumed that fox would want to get this out of their hair. as i understand it from the reporting that's out there, it's not fox who hasn't been trying to settle. it's dominion who has been saying, or dominion has been asking for things that fox won't acquiesce to >> the hard part here is what are the pain points and necessary parts of the settlement one thing dominion is clear on, they want an apology ask yourself how that would look on fox, right? what this case is about is fox hosts and guests lying about the results of the 2020 elections and their implications there are still fox hosts on the air right now who lie about the implications of the elections and cash january 6th as a noble insurrection against, you know a wronged loss how can they apologize for something they're still doing. and which is essential to their business model, which is to keep happy the audience that believes that trump won in 2020 >> so dominion wants to go to

trial from, as we understand it, they want to argue this case in court. jury selection beginstomorrow. how is it going to go? who's going to be called to the stand? what's this case going to look like >> look, you know, the executives, the murdaughs could be on the stand, tucker carlson, sean hannity, and all the laundry that we saw in those texts, a lot of texts, we will see even more of that kind of content if it goes to trial. that's the incentive for fox to pull back and settle what's the incentive for dominion their business has been wrecked by this arguably, and they want an apology and a lot of money it's still a billion dollars, even if fox is right about the claims. >> fox is arguing its first amendment, and that any sort of infringement on their first amendment rights is a problem for not just fox but for everybody? >> look, i think, you know, we should all be cognizant of the

dangers of prosecuting a news organization, including journalists, right but what we have here is a pattern, a known pattern of repeatedly lying about the same thing over and over again, not once, not twice, not ten times, dozens and dozens of times, documented in the record, and the judge has basically said, you can't use that defense this is the first amendment in this court the case is now about if fox did what it did out of malice or recklessly. >> do you have any idea on what fox is bracing for you're talking about, you know, the difficulty in not being able to apologize for something that they're still doing. but if they lose this lawsuit, and lose damages and who knows how much money it will ultimately be, they could also po possibly be -- couldn't there be a consequence where they have to issue that apology regardless of their refusal to do so, maybe during settlement talks?

>> if they go to trial and lose, it's possible, yes, a court could order an apology or a settlement could include some kind of apology. i think that will be a hard thing for fox to swallow they would presumably have to go on the air and have their prime time hosts who peddled these lies say, i lied to you, i was wrong. i knew it was wrong. i'm sorry. it's hard to imagine it would be catastrophic for the network, for any network. i think that's part of why there's resistance. >> joining me is harvard law school first amendment professor re , the judge in the case has said that fox cannot say that -- cannot argue, lawyers for fox cannot argue news worthiness when they are defending what they aired, when they say that they put on sidney powell or whomever to talk about dominion

voting machines and how corrupt they were, and how they were flipping votes that they cannot argue that they did so because it was news worthy how does that limit fox's defense? >> so fox wanted to say that it was news worthy just that the accusations were made. they're free to report on them no matter how falls they are, and the judge said no because at a certain point, you start endorsing the claims and they were not just reporting on them, they were kind of encouraging them, and they certainly weren't reporting on them in a way that is, you know, neutral like trump has alleged they actually were basically giving premature, and at the end they would say things like, well, i hope you show that evidence to us soon in a tone that indicated that they totally believed in it, and so i think the judge recognized the reality that this wasn't just reporting on wild allegations but was part of a pattern designed to instill doubt in dominion specifically

>> nick was talking about all the text messages we've seen, all of the back and forth we've seen behind the scenes talking about how people just didn't believe that the election was stolen as they were claiming on air. but this is specifically about dominion, and the accusations that fox made against dominion, about the -- how they were rigged and flipping votes. is this a slam dunk case for dominion do they have enough? >> so i have two different answers. it's not a slam dunk because, you know, determining intent, which the jury will have to do, you know, is always risky, and a jury trial is always risky that's why lots of cases skeett, but they certainly have enough there, given what's there, that a jury could absolutely reasonably find them guilty or liable, excuse me. >> let me ask you about the first amendment. is this something that news organizations, even if they think what fox did was egregious

and not anything that they would do at a place like this or another place, should there be concern about fox losing this case if you're a journalist? >> so i think the judge handled this very well the judge said, you know, the standard is very high. but it doesn't mean that there's no standard at all so there's got to be a limit to what you can do knowingly, you know, conscious of a very high risk that you're telling people falsehoods and the evidence of that is pretty clear you don't really see much better evidence than this in defamation cases. so if defamation is possible, it's got to be the case that this can question. but the standard is high, and i think the court is appropriately saying, you know, you've got to be really sure about this to the jury. >> what are you going to be watching for specifically once this trial gets started? >> so the key question is

basically is fox just an assemblage of people, each has their own opinion, nobody is responsible for anyone else and if a host goes on air and says stuff, there may be a wacky true believer in, so does that true belief even if completely unreasonable insulation the rest of the apparatus or is it the case that fox is actually like an entity and there have to be some adults in charge who should be responsible for shutting this down before all 40 of these statements get out so the question really is one of control, are people who have responsibility for this, are they doing it knowingly or are they consciously disregarding the risk of falsehood? >> we will see what happens. this trial or at least the jury selection and hearings are supposed to begin tomorrow let's see if that holds. appreciate your time. and coming up next, still

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the ohio attorney general dave yoss is giving an update on the case of jayland walker, june of 2022, he was a 25-year-old black man who was hit with 46 bullets, killed by police officers after attempting to flee a traffic stop eight officers were directly involved the attorney general is now making an announcement about what the grand jury found and what charge are coming let's listen. >> mutually presenting all the evidence to that grand jury and there was a great deal of evidence presents, so the grand jury could make a well-informed st decision based on all the facts. while many grand jury cases take only minutes, this case took more than a week because of the large amount of evidence that was presented. it's important to note at the

beginning that the job of our office was to investigate the events at the invitation of the akron police department, and then at the invitation of a summit county prosecuting attorney to present that case to the grand jury the grand jury was instructed about the law by the judge that oversees it, not as is customary about the prosecutors to avoid any question about the accuracy of the legal instructions. here is a shorthand version of what transpired. in june last year, mr. walker took at least one shot from his vehicle at the police, led them on a chase, and exited from his vehicle in a ski mask, ignoring mul multiple commands by officers to show his hands and to stop

as you will hear in more detail from the prosecutors who presented the evidence to th grand jury, a foot pursuit ensued, which officers still having every reason to believe that mr. walker was armed attempted to use nonlethal tasers to subdue him mr. walker then reached for his waistband in what several officers described as a cross draw motion, planted his foot and turned toward the officers while raising his hand only then did the officers fire leaving -- believing mr. walker was firing again at them mr. walker had left his recently purchased gun in his car however, there is no doubt that he did, in fact, shoot at police

officers the shot was recovered on the entrance route to state route 8, and ballistics traced that back and matched it to the weapon in mr. walker's vehicle the law allows officers to use deadly force to defend themselves or others against a deadly threat. now, the summit county grand jury, people who live there in the community, spent more than a week reviewing the bci investigation. the grand jury concluded that the officers were legally justified in their use of force. the grand jury just a little while ago issued what is called a no bill, meaning that there will be no state criminal action, no charges at the state level. that does not resolve any

potential civil action that might be brought for wrongful death. now, legal justification does not change the terrible -- jayland walker's death i i grieve the loss of this promising young life, although i recognize that no words of mine can offer much comfort to his family i do hope they will find some comfort in this, ohio is unified today in mourning the loss of their son and family member. a body camera footage in this case is especially grievous to watch. most officer-involved shootings involve an officer or perhaps an officer and a partner. it is unusual, although hardly

unprecedented to have this many officers firing their weapon at the same time at a single subject. the sheer number of shots is one of the things that makes the video so hard to watch multiple officers each making an independent judgment about a threat and acting independently to neutralize that threat creates a dynamic that amplifies the use of force exponentially that being said, it is critical to remember that mr. walker had fired on the police and that he shot first there is no more serious matter than when the government takes the life of a citizen. several years ago, i took the first ever step of publishing our investigative files on every

use of deadly force by police that we investigate. later today, the files in this case will also be published on our web site for everyone to see. i'm proud of the work of our investigators, as you'll see, their work was extensive and thorough the reason i decided to begin publishing all of the evidence that our investigators find was to help each community that has a tragedy like this to understand what actually happened and to know that the investigation was thorough, expert, and independent to know the truth. now, one of our career prosecutors who presented this case to the grand jury -- >> that is attorney general dave yost of ohio providing an update to the jayland walker case where sometimes these cases can

take a few minutes, this one took a week with all of the evidence that was provided again, this is from june of 2022 walker was a 25-year-old black man who was hit with 46 bullets. 46 after attempting to flee a traffic stop eight officers were directly involved in this shooting, initially placed on administrative leave, and then rein reinstated by october 10th what complicates this was walker shot first he had a gun in the car, and he says he shot out of the car first. what makes it more complicated is once he got out of the car, after leading the chase and started running, he was no longer armed, so when he was shot, he was not armed joining me now is former u.s. attorney barbara mcquade, and an msnbc legal analyst. no state charges obviously there still could be civil charges here, but no state level charges for these officers >> yes, and also, katy, i think

what we emphasized no state charges, it's also possible there could be federal charges for a civil rights violation i think this result can be explained by the legal standard that gets used in these cases and that is not to look at it from the perspective of the citizen who is the victim of the shooting but to look at it from the perspective of the reasonable officer on the scene. and so the officers say that he stopped, he did a cross motion, he turned on his foot, and they reasonably perceived that he was shooting at them, which would give them the ability to use self-advancing fire at him i imagine that the grand jury also saw video footage, body cam footage, because that would be critical to confirming the account of the police officers for decades we have heard police officers give one account that is not always consistent with the observations of people on the scene. body camera footage, dash camera footage can be important

evidence as to whether the officer's story true one of the things that feels egregious in this case is the number of shots, that feels excessive. once a police officer feels his life is in danger, he does have the ability to respond with self-defense his job at that point is to fire until the threat is neutralized >> 46 bullets, hit with 46 bullets. the walker family's legal team has called the report results of what happened horrific and they've condemned the police actions, a display of violent and unnecessary use of force and again, this d.a. or this attorney general said part of the reasoning here is that he shot first, he made that cross motion and as you said, probably saw some video evidence to support that, and what would a reasonable officer do in that situation.

if this does go to a federal court, if there are federal charges here, what would those look like? how would they be justified if there are no state charges >> well, they have a slightly different standard typically they do overlap, though, because you still look at that standard of a reasonable officer on the scene federal charges would have to show there was a willful violation of someone's civil rights, and so making the mistake, and accident, implicit bias, training, panicking, that alone is not enough to qualify for a crime under state law or a civil rights violation, but if, for example, the video did not measure up to what the officers say they saw, then it could be perceived that this was something different. you know, i think when we look at for example, what we saw in memphis, tennessee, with tyre nichols, where it appears to be a very deliberate attempt to exact retribution on someone who required a high speed chase.

that stretch is a very different type of shooting or use of force, to this one, which based on the account is given by the prosecutor, sounds like officers pursuing, believing they are in danger of their lives, and making what may have been the wrong decision or a bad decision, but not a deliberate effort to violate someone's rights the justice department would look at a case like this independently, interview the witnesses and officers, look at their dash cam, look at their body cam and see if their story checks out with the visual evidence. >> barbara mcquade, thank you very much, and thanks for coming with us so quickly as we got this announcement from the ag, we appreciate it. >> thank you and a 16-year-old boy whose family says was shot in the head after he rang the wrong doorbell is out of the hospital officials say ralph yarl was picking up his twin siblings from a play date when he mixed up the address yarl's family along with angry

kansas city residents want to know why the homeowner who shot yarl has not been charged. joining me is maggie vespa, joining us from chicago. thanks for being with us why would the homeowner not be charged for shooting someone who just rang their doorbell >> yeah, it's obviously the key question right now we got new reporting that we're going to bring here on the air with you first first and foremost on sunday, police gave a press conference yesterday and basically said, hey, the reason we haven't charged the homeowner yet is we haven't been able to speak to ralph, a teenager shot once in the head, according to his family, and a second time in the arm. he's in the hospital recovering. we haven't been able to talk to him. that's what the police chief said yesterday we just in the last hour interviewed ralph's aunt and the family attorney who say that's not true they say detectives actually interviewed ralph in his hospital bed on friday the aunt said i was there for it they recorded it they gave his statement. what is the hold up? where are the charges? and so they want to know why

police went on the air basically on sunday and said it's possible it's a miscommunication, but we want to know what's going on police said they were waiting on the victim's statement, they couldn't hold the homeowner indefinitely while they wait on that missouri has a cap on that, 24 hours, you have to let them go while you investigate. we're out to kansas city p.d. to get the full answer and get their response to the family's side of the story. in the meantime, as you point out, outrage in kansas city mounting across that community take a listen. >> it gave me a sickening feeling, i kept looking back at the house. >> as a mother of real riize ju come overnight, but the fact there is a kid in the hospital and everything i read says not even a charge has been done. that concerns me so again according to the family

16-year-old ralph yarl who is out of the hospital recovering after being shot in the head, the family says he has given his victim statement so we're out to police to see if they can confirm that and whether charges are imminent >> just to be clear sunday the police said they haven't yet interviewed him, we can only hold the shooter for so long but the family is saying that is not true, the police did interview him and oh, by the way he has been out of the hospital since saturday >> you got that right. because there are two very conflictinging stories the family's attorney said i won't say it was intentionally m misstated. it could be responsible that chaotic information, maybe the information hasn't gotten to the officials who made that statement on sunday, but they said ralph gave a statement and we want to know where the charges are. so we're out to police to see what they say. >> good news to hear he is out

of the hospital. the rest of it, i guess we'll wait and see what the police say. and in alabama, grief counselors are at a high school in dadeville after a mass shooting at a sweet 16 party four are dead and 28 others injured. authorities have not released any information about a suspect or suspects. joining me now is correspondent guad venegas what is going on here? they don't know if it is one person or two people or do they know and they haven't told anyone yet >> reporter: we don't know what they know. the latest update on sunday, police said that they were still trying to account for the individuals that were inside the venue the night of the incident and asking the community for more information but they did not release any information on a possible motive or who was involved in the attack we know after nbc news interviewed the deejay, the deejay indicating it was very

dark so that made it difficult for anyone to see what happened. he said he heard the gunshots and jumped to the ground also helping some of the teens around them by protecting them as best as he could. but meanwhile the details from the police investigation have not been revealed. we do know the ages of the four that died, youngest being 17 and oldest 23, two of them were seniors at dadeville high school and we know phil was a star on the football and track team. and my colleague spoke to some of the students and friends of the victims. here is part of that conversation >> did you ever think anything like that would happen here? >> no, ma'am, not in a million years. that is why it is so shocking. nothing ever happens around here everybody knows each other everybody loves each other >> what is it like to think about graduating without your best friend there with you >> it is difficult something hard to deal with.

>> reporter: as we heard him say, everyone there knows each other. this is a town of a little more than 3,000 people. so it is a community where this is going to touch very deep because they all know each other. not only have the four people that died, but also 28 injured as the local police there are working with the state and federal authorities, but we're still waiting for more details as to what happened that evening. >> guad venegas, thank you very much coming up next, what congressman george santos just did.

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nassau county commissioner said santos was a disgrace as he believes he should resign. is he going to have this court of congressional republicans, is the national party going to get behind him >> reporter: sure doesn't look that way you've heard from members of his own dell sgagsegation suggestin should resign. i don't think that he will have the glide path he had already won once before, he got beat pretty badly in 2020 in 2022, nobody was paying close attention and i think you could argue george santos was one of the 10 or 15 most well-known congressmen in the country right now, but not for great reasons i don't think that he will have the same path in front of him in the next cycle also he has no money in the financial disclosure forms that came out, he only has about $25,000 in his campaign

bank account all the money he raised in the first quarter went from paying back donors who asked for r refunds. so george santos is in for re-election. he almost certainly won't be alone in a republican primary field and he will almost if he survives that face a democratic candidate who will be paying much closer attention this cycle. >> well, we were just showing pictures of santos and also the pictures of the vet who accused santos of stealing money from his dying dog. there are a lot of allegations out there, a lot of ways to campaign against george santos i guess i'll leave that there. let's talk about mitch mcconnell who made his return to the senate today he just spoke. what did he say, how does he look >> when i wrapped up with you, i went over to watch some of that speech came down the hallway from his office to the floor at a pretty good clip. didn't have anything to say to reporters. that is not unusual. gave probably slightly shorter than usual speech on the floor

where he thanked all the people who wished him well, thanked his doctors, how good it was to be about a, and then went right back to banging on the biden administration for in this case not negotiating with speaker mb car a mccarthy on the debt limit so not missing a step much there. we'll see tomorrow when he takes questions from reporters, we'll get more of a taste of where he his thinking is on all these issues building up while he has been out >> including dianne feinstein, will he help the democrats replace here on judiciary. garrett haake, thank you very much that will do it for me "dea right now. hi there, everyone happy monday it is 4:00 in new york a twist in the high stakes $1.6 billion defamation case brought by dominion voting