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this tuesday i'm ana cabrera. it is 10:00 eastern. we're here in new york and right now we're tracking calls for justice in kansas city after a 16-year-old was shot in the head after ringing the wrong doorbell 84-year-old andrew lester is the white homeowner now facing two felony charges for shooting ralph yarl police say there was a racial component to the shooting, but haven't provided details and an arrest warrant has been issued but lester is still not in custody. this morning, the 16-year-old's mother described his injuries. >> he had the bullet in the -- up here for about, let's say, up to 12 hours before it was taken out. >> also this morning, a rejected appeal a moscow court has ruled against evan gerstovitz. he will be detained in prison until he goes on trial next
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month on espionage charges the u.s. government calling the entire process a sham. >> the charges against evan are baseless and we call on the russian federation to immediately release him. and one of the most closely watched trials in recent memory is getting under way this morning. dominion voting systems taking on fox news in a $1.6 billion defamation trial in just the last few hours, an army of lawyers, both sides, descended on the courthouse there for this hotly anticipated trial. we'll have updates coming up let's begin in missouri and this arrest warrant issued for the home owner who shot a teenager who mistakenly rang the wrong doorbell he was looking for his younger brother. antonia hylton is covering this for us why isn't this homeowner, andrew lester, in custody yet and what
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do we know about the charges he's facing? >> reporter: the community right now is outraged over this. while it has come as a relief to some folks in kansas city he's facing these two felony charges, there are a whole host of questions surrounding this we know most notably over the last several days why he wasn't immediately taken into custody after the april sympat13th shoo. people want to know more information about this there is still so much about this case we don't understand. the prosecutor acknowledged there is a racial component to the case that's about the extent of what we understand about the dynamic from the prosecutor's point of view here. people really want not only to see andrew lester in custody now, but they want to understand more about the interaction we have been getting, though, day after day additional heart breaking and gruesome details about what happened to the 16-year-old when he rang on the wrong doorbell after he was shot, allegedly through the glass door by andrew lester, he had to go to three different neighbors' homes
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before he was able to get medical assistance thankfully the 16-year-old who is beloved by his classmates and by his teachers, he's a musician, a leader in the band, and high achieving student, he is at home now, recovering i want to take a listen to his attorney talking about some of these details and what it has been like for yarl's recovery. >> despite being struck in the head, having a bullet lodged near or at his brain, he was able to recover himself long enough to run to a neighbor, to not receive a response there and to run to three separate neighbors in total before getting a response >> reporter: the major question now in the community has been about hate crime charges at this time, andrew lester is not facing any racial-related charges. and but the prosecutor's answer so far has been on that is that that's a lower level felony than what he's facing right now
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but to some in the commune ity that doesn't matter. they want to see him held accountable for as many elements in the case as possible. the anger is not subsiding people are demanding answers and not only do they want to see ralph yarl back in school and back on his feet, but they want to see lester held accountable as soon as possible. >> thank you now i want to bring in derrick johnson, president and ceo of the naacp and eddie glau, chair of princeton's department of african american studies and msnbc contributor. good to see both of you. derrick, you wrote something on twitter last night that stuck with me. millions of black parents, you write, across america are going to have the talk again this time adding another item to the list don't ring the wrong doorbell. i can't imagine what it is like to be the parents of ralph yarl right now. but you're right, this has an impact on the entire black community and really beyond. what all is going through your head right now >> it is unfortunate this nation
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that we have devolved to i said earlier on during the prior administration that white supremacy and racism germinate from the white house it created a level of boldness local news coverage is mired in violence in the black community or the threat of the black male. it is dangerous to be black in america. and that's unfortunate and the talk is making sure that we mind how we talk to others, don't drive while black, showing up at the wrong doorbell, that is unfortunate. and we have also the -- we talk about -- we devolved to a place where people are trying to barak cess bar access to the voting booths. we must address the culture, the climate of white supremacy, racism, in our democracy >> i just want to emphasize to our viewers that yarl has been described as a very talented musician, in the school marching band, a gifted student, a gifted student apparently taking
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college-level classes, has plans to study chemical engineering in college. he just got confused he rang the wrong doorbell he was going to help his mom, to pick up his brothers who were at a friend's house, and now he's suffering from a brain injury. how do you make sense of this? >> well, you don't and, you know, actually, even if he wasn't a good student, even if he wasn't beloved by his classmates, this still would be unjust, right? so what you have is this kind of toxic combination, this deadly potentially deadly combination of the kind of obsession with guns, right, combined with deeply held racist views think about that neighborhood, barely segregated, often viewed as a conservative neighborhood, thought of as god's country, interesting sorts of ways, think about how young black men as was just laid out are often perceived by definition as threats. no matter if they're decent, loving, quiet, gentle, doesn't matter so here you have a man seeing a
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black child, seeing that child as a man, as a threat, and shooting him twice but more importantly, what we saw or more in addition what we saw is a corruption of the heart. this baby went to three neighbors, and none of them did anything that's a corruption of the soul that we have to address. i mean, can you imagine? three neighbors. and they did nothing >> eventually somebody did, fortunately. that homeowner, derrick, who pulled the gun is now facing two charges. again, he hasn't turned himself into place police yet. but the charges are first degree assault and armed criminal action police note the suspect could try to use missouri stand your ground defense it was late at night, he reportedly told police he thought yarl was trying to break in, what is your reaction to that >> why isn't he in custody i can't imagine an african
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american who did anything near this level and not be in custody. has nothing to do with defense he offered it is the fact that he attempted to murder a young black man and he's not in custody. we have an individual in texas facing 30 years for spitting at, not on law enforcement officers. so we have a problem with our justice system not holding individuals accountable, as a result of that lack of accountability, people are operating at a level in which they disregard black lives. >> eddie, let me ask you about accountability because, again, the county prosecutor says there was a racial component to this case, without specifying more. the family wants hate crime charges to be filed here what do you think? what does justice look like here >> well, i think hate crimes should be filed, along with the other charges. it seems to me we have to begin
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to acknowledge, a, that racism exists, that, b, that there are consequences that follow from racism, and if you act in a racist manner, you'll be held to account. it is not about choosing between one and the other. it is about understanding the complicated implication of it all. and oftentimes we want to stick our heads in the sand and say it is not about race. here we have the toxic combination, again, of stand your ground laws, castle laws, guns, and racism and it led to a young baby, a young child, 16-year-old, being shot and we need to understand that you combine that with the fact that we just left nashville, three 9-year-olds dead from my vantage point, this might sound hyperbolic, they don't care about their own kids, how do they care about ours? we have to begin to address this directly and understand the underlying devaluation of -- >> i appreciate both of your perspectives and voices, thank you for joining us today eddie glaude and derrick
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johnson. to ohio, protesters took to the streets after a grand jury declined to charge eight akron police officers in connection with last year's failed shooting of jayland walker. police say they stopped walker for a traffic stop and that he fired a gun before fleeing the car and when he got out of the car, officers fired nearly 100 shots at walker in less than seven seconds. walker's family is now pushing for the justice department to open a civil rights investigation. nbc's jesse kirsch joins us from akron. what more do we know about this decision by the grand jury to not charge these officers and how is the community there reacting to that news? >> reporter: yeah, you can see here in downtown akron this morning, we have some businesses, the windows and the storefronts boarded up, others, though, look as if this is just any town, any american town's main street this morning that's the situation on the ground right now it is quiet from what we can
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tell, demonstrations overnight were largely peaceful, if not entirely peaceful. police, though, are telling us this morning they made roughly six arrests in conjunction with the demonstrations we saw overnight. all of this in a community that is unsettled by this news. asked about the grand jury we don't know much authorities say they cannot share what the vote was. we now know according to the attorney general here there will be no state level criminal charges against any of the officers who shot at jayland walker overnight, outrage in akron, ohio dozens protesting after ohio's attorney general announced monday there will be no state criminal charges against any of the eight officers who opened fire on jayland walker, the 25-year-old black man killed by police last june. >> the grand jury concluded that the officers were legally justified in their use of force. >> reporter: seven of the special grand jury's nine members would have needed to find sufficient evidence for an
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indictment officials say the panel included two black jurors, three men, and six women. do you think this was more heart break, a feeling of injustice, outrage? >> it is betrayal. it is -- the constant refrain is when will this change? >> reporter: an attorney for walker's family says he does not trust the findings from a months long investigation police attempt a traffic stop, they say walker flees in his vehicle before firing a gun at least once walker then flees on foot in a ski mask police try to tase walker. >> mr. walker then reached for his waistband in what several officers s described as a cross draw motion. he turned toward the officers while raising his hand only then did the officers fire. >> reporter: the scene illustrated in this new video shared by authorities. according to prosecutors, police
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fired 94 shots in less than seven seconds, roughly 46 bullets striking walker who died >> although the officers did not know it at the time, mr. walker had left his recently purchased gun in his car >> reporter: officials say police believed walker was a threat. >> if he was a lethal threat leaving his car, he should have been shot immediately when he left his car but he wasn't. >> reporter: police say that the officers who shot at walker remain on administrative duty. their names continue to be withheld from being publicly shared because of concerns of threats against them at this point, it is unclear, ana, if any of those officers faced prior complaints for use of force ana? >> jesse kirsch, thank you for your reporting we have more in 60 seconds including our first look at detained "wall street journal" evan girskovitz in a russian court. the fox news dominion trial
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will take some strength from how he seemed in the courtroom they already had a handwritten note from him, telling them that he's not losing hope, and signing off, until we meet soon. you saw him in the courtroom wearing a shirt and jeans, his arms folded, looking relaxed and determined a fellow reporter shouting to him, stay strong, evan, while the cameras were in the courtroom there, filming him in that glass box and the u.s. ambassador was in court too, and she has described him as in good health and remaining strong after the court hearing, she came outside of the courtroom and had this to say. >> the charges against evan are baseless and we call on the russian federation to immediately release him. we also call for the immediate release of paul whelan paul has been held more than four years in russia
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both men deserve to go home to their families now >> reporter: now, the decision today, i think, for most was not surprising he is being held on espionage charges. it was an appeal against him being held while those charges are brought. he lost that appeal. but, of course, he absolutely vehemently denies as you mentioned those charges. so does "the wall street journal" deny vehemently that the charges against him. so does the u.s. government. we'll see now how this plays out. russian lawyers do say that it could take a year to 18 months for a case like this to make its way through the russian courts, and he does face many years in jail if he is convicted. >> it is good to hear he's at least in decent health at this moment it is a long road ahead, though, as you point out keir simmons, thank you very much joining us now is mark pauley moropolis, responsible for overseeing all of the cia's
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operations, a nonresident senior fellow at the atlantic council and author of "clarity in cri crisis: leadership lessons from the cia. when you talk about griner in this case, involving evan gershkovich, how do you think the cases differ >> well, they're different in a sense in terms of the charges, but they're the same because this is just russian hostage taking the russians do this, they will nab an american based on kind of just totally trumped up sham charges because they want something in return. i'm not sure if we know exactly what that is there is a russian intelligence officer in jail in brazil now. there is a russian intelligence officer who has been charged with murder in jail in germany so it is always possible that, you know, this is what ultimately the russians have in
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mind which, of course, you know, gives us a great deal of worry that this case here, what is happening in the moscow courtroom, you know, might be in for the long haul because, again, the russians want something in return and we're going to find out in the days and weeks to come. >> it is obviously such a delicate dance, so to speak, very complicated situation when you're talking about an american in custody and how can you get them freed, right? i wonder do you think russia was imb emboldened in some way after the prisoner swap involving griner. >> i do. there is something really important to note. it was wonderful brittney griner came home for the holidays with her family, but the biden administration made that trade, which was, you know, many of us, you know, noted was frankly an uneven trade because viktor bout was a notorious arnolds dealer, russian military intelligence officer, but the biden administration made that trade knowing that in some sense it
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rewards hostage taking that's why you hear the state department there repeatedly announced all americans get out of russia. but the administration did this knowing that it could embolden the russians and the fact of the matter is that it did. what is surprising is in the past, you know, an american passport for a journalist was something that was important for the american media to be working in moscow safely and russia safely that is not the case anymore clearly. >> and, in fact, gershkovich is the first american reporter to be ararrested on espionage chare since the cold war do you think other journalists on the ground in russia are in danger right now >> for sure. this is -- so what russia has done here is not only tried to, you know, take an american hostage in order to gain the release of perhaps some of their officials held overseas, but it is also a pretty strong statement about press freedom or
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lack thereof there is no rule of law in russia and frankly over the last several years there has been a surprisingly at times free press in russia. that's not the case anymore. so, this is absolutely, you know, something that i think is shocking a lot of reporters and journalists inside, and it is going to curtail press freedom and that's by design this is what vladimir putin wanted to do and i think it's probably been successful >> mark, great to have you ere thank you so much for sharing your insights and expertise. back here in new york now, two chinese nationals are facing charges of operating a secret police station in manhattan. the two men seen here without their faces blurred are accused of setting up this station on behalf of a branch of china's ministry of public security. now, according to the justice department, it was meant to, quote, monitor and intimidate critics of the chinese government this secret police station was
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located in an office building in chinatown and was closed last fall after the people operating it became aware of an fbi investigation. china calls the charges baseless, and says this overseas police station didn't and doesn't exist. next here on "ana cabrera reports," the fox news first amendment flashpoint, dominion's defamation case against the cable giant is playing out in a courtroom right now. what we're learning as this trl iagets under way i think i'm ready for this.
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we're back and right now the potentially historic defamation trial against fox news is under way. you can see the massive team of lawyers all heading into the courtroom, dominion voting systems seeking $1.6 billion in damages from fox news. and fox corporation for pushing false claims that the voting system company rigged the 2020 election there are all kinds of conspiracy series attached to that can dominion convince a jury that fox acted with actual malice when it aired those false claims fox argues this case is really about protecting the first amendment right to cover the news joining us now to discuss all of this, nbc news correspondent emilie ikeda outside the court in wilmington, delaware, former u.s. attorney harry litman, and former florida republican congressman carlos curbelo you were just inside the
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courtroom, what is playing out right now? >> reporter: already we're getting a sense for just the high stakes nature of this trial. you showed the video of the huge team, more than to p30 people, e legal team for dominion entering the courthouse all seven rows were packed with people, journalists, members of the legal team, packed in there like sardines for this high stakes trial that could have sweeping efforts what is playing out at this hour is the jury selection process. we know within the last few minutes 12 jurors have been seated now they're working to seat 12 alternate jurors already there has been discussion this morning from legal team members, from both sides, with the judge indicating they have objections to some of the slides that anticipated to be presented during the opening arguments which we anticipate to happen later today the judge said he doesn't want to delay this trial any more than it already has been and he was adamant that he will be holding both teams to their time constraints. after the jury selection process
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ends, there will be about, we're told, a 20 minute recess and then they'll move into opening arguments. we anticipate dominion to argue and allege against fox that it defamed them by amplifying false claims of voter fraught allegations. fox continues to defend its election coverage. and will likely argue that it was merely reporting on extraordinary claims made by the then president ana? >> harry, this trial was set to begin yesterday. it was delayed on sunday evening. i was looking at that image again, all of the lawyers walking into the courtroom, that tells you a lot about what is at stake here from both sides do you think a settlement is still a possible outcome >> yeah. i do i think once this last minute momentum for settlement builds and it did because they went to the judge and said, give us another day, they must have said we're getting there, but then they likely returned yesterday,
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said they're not there yet and the judge said i'm not going to hold -- we chose is it12 jurors have to keep going, you have to go on two tracks to try the case in the day and continuing settlement negotiations at night. i don't think settlement by any means is off the table. >> the judge agreed with dominion that theclaims pusheded pushed ed by fox news hosts are false. how do you show they acted with malice, which is the other component of defamation? >> they're going to be instructed, all these claims were false, 20 really vivid claims tracking the big lie, and they're going to be instructed these are false that already makes it seem very plausible that they knew it, but the email
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traffic that we have already learned about really exposed fox as having known about it i think the odds here, you know, it is really a downhill path for dominion and uphill one for fox. >> congressman curbelo, dominion is suing for more than a billion dollars as we keep saying because of that number being so out there. and yet a media analyst says fox could survive a nine figure loss if they do lose, do you see the fox news brand surviving does their audience care >> i think that's the big question here. what does all of this do to the fox brand? and not just the fox brand, but if we zoom out a little more, the whole trump movement and all of the lies that it is built upon will this actually wake up a significant portion of the american public to the lies that have been advanced for years now? for years now.
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based on absolutely no evidence. so the damage, the monetary damage is one thing, and, sure, they can probably survive that, but the question is what happens to this whole movement, this whole industry that has been built around donald trump and the lies that he's advanced. do enough people realize how dishonest this has all been and do they turn away and start holding people accountable for all the lies that they have been told >> because, again, that part pass already been proven, the fact that the statements were in fact false, that they were, you know, presenting to their viewers. i want to read a part of the statement fox news gave, just ahead of this trial. the real cost would be cherished first amendment rights while dominion pushed irrelevant and misleading information to generate headlines fox news remains steadfast in protecting the rights of a free press, given a verdict for dominion and private equity owners would have grave
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consequences for the entire journalism profession. now, dominion has said that they will prove fox spread lies causing enormous damage to their company. congressman what is your reaction to that back and forth? >> well, i think that's the point here look, the first amendment is safe people can go out and report the news when they're intentionally reporting something that is false, in a way that is causing damage to an entity, and this is a specific entity, but, again, i think we have to zoom out and think about the damage that these lies have caused to the whole country. people have literally lost their lives because of these lies. so, if the american people, there is a way to bring a class action lawsuit against all of those who have advanced these lies, i'm no legal expert, but i think that would be legitimate because the true cost of this to
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society is a lot more than the billion dollars that dominion is asking for >> it will be interesting to see how this plays out former congressman carlos curbelo, harry litman and emilie ikeda, thank you for joining us. this morning, supreme court justices are back on the bench, hearing arguments in a case centered on religious freedom. a former evangelical christian postal worker says he was not allowed to observe the sabbath on sundays and was punished for not working on those days. the usps argue his request to take off all sundays put undue hardship on his employer and his co-workers we'll be watching this one now from disney to d.c., ron desantis is stepping up his attacks on the house of mickey mouse as he heads to our nation's capitol what he's doing there and why it matters ahead of 2024. plus, he's embellished his
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florida governor ron desantis is making a rare trip to d.c. today as he tries to amass republican support ahead of a potential presidential bid. now, desantis will be the keynote speaker at a policy discussion that is expected to include members of congress as well as donors and his visit comes as he ramps up a fight with mickey mouse, announcing wide ranging actions targeting disney in his home state and nbc's gabe gutierrez is following all this for us. how is desantis being received in d.c.? do we know >> the governor is expected to arrive here at that meet and greet later this afternoon and it comes as a fifth member of the florida congressional delegation announced last night
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that he was endorsing donald trump. that's greg stubey with a florida legislative session still under way, desantis is now doubling down on a fight against an american icon, mickey mouse >> this morning, the ongoing feud between florida governor ron desantis and disney is intensifying >> they're going to live under the same laws as everybody else. >> reporter: desantis says a new bill is in the works from florida's republican-controlled legislature to wrestle power from disney, the state's largest single site employer he wants to revoke the company's self-inspection of rides and monorails and investigate potenti potential safety hazards >> this is basically a sham agreement. >> reporter: the clash started last year when disney opposed florida's parental rights and education law, which opponents called the don't say gay bill.
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it bans classroom discussion about sexual orientation and gender identity in kindergarten through third grade. desantis also now floating the idea of a state developing land next to disney world. >> maybe try to do more amusement parks, someone even said maybe you need another state prison who knows. >> reporter: the renewed political brawl comes as desantis ramps up his travel nationwide ahead of a possible presidential run, speaking to supporters last week in ohio, virginia and new hampshire >> we have made florida the state where woke goes to die >> reporter: but his poll numbers are dropping after sustained attacks from donald trump. >> ron desanctimonious is being crushed in the polls, all of them. >> reporter: while desantis avoided engaging trump directly, nbc news has exclusively reported that desantis' political team reached out to members of florida's congressional delegation to keep them from endorsing the former president. and this week, a super pac
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supporting desantis is out with a seven-figure ad buy, even though he's not formally in the race disney said it had no comment on governor desantis' latest remaremark remarks. earlier this month, the ceo bob iger said that it seemed wrong to him that the governor would try to punish a company for exercising free speech ana? >> gabe gutierrez reporting, thank you. so let's go to capitol hill, where the most famous or infamous, maybe we should say, freshman in congress just made a big announcement new york republican congressman george santos is rub running for re-election, despite facing multiple state, and federal investigations and widespread calls to resign after he made it numerous embellishments to his resume garrett haake is with us now okay, garrett, what kind of uphill climb is he going to
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face >> reporter: look, ana, when george santos ran last time, he had basically everything possible break in his favor. he was largely unknown, running for an open seat, got almost no scrutiny from the national or even local media, and he was able to raise some money as kind of an unknown figure running in a good republican year basically all of that will be different this time around he's going to have a huge political target on his back, both in a republican primary and if he should survive that, in a general election he doesn't have the support of the new york republican party. he doesn't have the support of the speaker whom he tied himself to during that long fight for the speaker's gavel, kevin mccarthy asked about santos last night and only laughed and his biggest problem may be fund-raising he's raised only about $5,000 so far this year, and he's used most of that to pay back donors from his last campaign, who wanted refunds after all these various scandals started to break. so, very tough road ahead for
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santos i think the reason why we probably see this announcement is to try to juice fund-raising, to try to keep money coming in, both to cover refund requests, potentially cover legal expenses going forward, and try to build back a war chest to run in the most expensive media market in the country. >> democrats have to be cheering i'm sure they would love to run against him again. garrett haake, thank you for that reporting. up next, montana is now first state to approve a full ban of tiktok. why it is unlikely to be the last and two words that may send a shiver down your spine if you haven't visited your accountant this year. tax day. you're watching "ana cabrera reports. we're back right after this. >> woman: why did we choose safelite? we're always working on a project. while loading up our suv, one extra push and... crack! so, we scheduled at safelite.com. we were able to track our technician and knew exactly when he'd arrive. we can keep working! ♪ synth music ♪ >> woman: safelite came to us. >> tech: hi, i'm kendrick.
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like to have it resolved quickly. to your point, travelers may remember the meltdown that we had with southwest over the christmas holiday. the last full week of the year, in which their computer system essentially crashed, as a result of significant cascading delays and cancellations, all stemming from bad weather that started in denver and then a series of winter storms that really kind of crippled their operations across the country and as a result, hundreds of thousands of southwest passengers back in december were affected by that the airline has spent a lot of money trying to compensate passengers for that and also rebuilding its system. it says it made progress, but now today, we don't know if these issues are in any way related, but now another significant issue for southwest, going the extra step and requesting the faa pause all of their departures, again, at the moment, about 800 delays that we see. >> serious, serious travel trouble. i'm feeling right now for all
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those people who need to catch a flight today on southwest. tom costello, thank you for the update we'll keep on it as the federal government is trying to crack down on tiktok, montana's legislature passed the first bill in the country to make it illegal in that state to download the app saying tiktok gathers users' data against their will to share with the chinese government. that bill is now awaiting the governor's signature let's discuss with aneesh chopra, former u.s. chief technology officer great to see you what kind of risk is there that china could be actually using tiktok for nefarious purposes? >> well, the problem is we don't know, and that's one of the challenges when shou testified on the hill last month, he didn't really give a lot of assurances that the there was testimony on the hill last month, it was that unknown creating pause from the national security community as to whether or not the upside of allowing the application in the
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country exceeds the down side of the risk, if they can take and manipulate the information >> we are talking about montana, and we are talking about one state here, and how would it be enforced would that be possible >> there's a demand signal for action, and then the execution and implementation of the law as written. it's important to note what montana did is raise their hand to say we think it's important, and the ban is not going to go into effect until 2024, and the logistics of how the ban was written is challenging, and it was not intended to be as is but to be taken as a signal. >> from the company itself to the country's own consideration of the national ban, perhaps, do you see the ripple affects of
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the phaumontana ban, do you thit will nudge further action? >> in many ways, we're kind of all waiting for a pretty significant policy decision. there's a process under way called sifius. tiktok really was the parent company, bytedance acquiring a u.s. company several years ago, i think, for nearly a billion. at the time, whenever that kind of transaction takes place, there should be a review for national security concerns, and companies could ask for that review and probably would have gotten through scott free, and the fact they didn't, this committee can look backwards in time and unwind, so when we say banning tiktok, what we practically mean is we can force the unwinding of the
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transaction, the buying of the company, and effectively means banning the application or weakening its ability to operate. its leverage in the hands of the company for a settlement, i think that's where we are headed >> can you put that genie back in the bottle? >> that's hard >> great to have you here. thank you so much. >> thanks for having me. today is the day so many americans fear, tax day. maybe they don't fear it, they just dread it. this year's deadline to file taxes is a little later, and yesterday d.c. celebrated emancipation day a few things you need to know on this tax day if you made less than $73,000 last year, can you still file for free at irs.gov. if you are one of the americans who procrastinated or forgot to
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we now know more about the incredible rescue of actor jeremy renner after his snowplow accident last january. the body cam footage shows the moments after he was nearly crushed trying to save his nephew here's more on this amazing rescue haley, what can you share? >> as jeremy renner continues to recover from the accident that nearly killed him we are getting a closer look at how tense the situation was with police and medics arriving to a harrowing sight, stunned by what they found and rushing to provide the life-saving care the video shows the dramatic aftermath of the january 1st snowplow accident. >> where his blood is at, that's where it all happened. >> the video shows the large emergency response that saved
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his life and offers more detail about how he ended up getting crushed by a snowplow when he tried to save his nephew >> he tried to jump on it, and it took him under. >> renner, himself, thought he was in grave danger in those moments. >> if i was there on my own, that would have been a horrible way to die but i was not alone. it was my nephew, sweet alex, and the rest of the calvary came >> he spent weeks recovering at the medical center and last week he returned to the hospital to, quote, revisit the amazing group of people that saved my life against all odds, he stepped out on to the red carpet for the premiere of his disney plus series he waited 22 minutes for emergency crews to reach him in lake tahoe amidststretch russ
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conditions >> any obvious srinjuries >> oh, yeah. >> from the brink of death to bouncing back in true superhero spirit jeremy renner joked, his calendar is wide open as the accident derailed his plans for the year, but he is excited about the new disney series that serves children's charities. he said the accident helped him quit smoking what a remarkable recovery he already made >> thank you so great to hear him bouncing back that will do it for us today thank you for being with us. i will be back here tomorrow, same time, same place. i am fortunate to do the passing of the baton to you, josé >> this is the first time i get the opportunity to say face-to-face and welcome you and say what an honor an
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