should someone like chris get in the race are able to pull that 60% and create a different lane, then you're probably looking at something that sis a little bit more competitive but it is very hard to do given the dynamics with the base right now as it is set up. >> michael steele, sam stein, thanks to both of you. and that does it for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports. remember, follow the show online, on facebook, and on twitter at mitchell reports. we'll be back tomorrow "chris jansing reports" starts right now. good day i'm chris jansing live at msnbc headquarters in new york city. right now, 16-year-old ralph yarl is home his physical scars healing but his family says he will never fully recover from the trauma of being shot, simply for showing up at the wrong house.

the latest on that case and why prosecutors are opting not to charge the shooter with a hate crime. plus, florida governor ron desantis making a personal bid to try and pry conservative lawmake areas way from donald trump. could today's event in d.c. break the dam and give other republicans the green light to defy the former president? and american reporter evan gersh gershkovich, denied bail this morning and ordered to stay in the same russian prison that specifically is designed to cut off inmates from the rest of the world. but we start in kansas city, and an extraordinary scene taking place just a short time ago. hundreds of students marching to declare their love and support for 16-year-old ralph yarl the teenager shot for simply going to the wrong house >> we love you, ralph. we love you, ralph we love you, ralph >> that march happening as members of yarl's family and

their attorney are demanding accountability for 84-year-old andrew lester, the man accused of pulling the trigger police issued an arrest warrant for lester and charged him with first degree assault and armed criminal action. but they have opted not to charge him with a hate crime here's family attorney ben crump on this network an hour ago. >> we believe this attempted murderer is going to be held accountable. we cannot send a message to society that it is okay to shoot our children for ringing the doorbell while being black >> nbc's antonia hylton has been covering the case, she's with me on set christina greer, associate professor of political science at fordham glen kirschner, former federal prosecutor and msnbc legal analyst. so, antonia, you and i were just talking, when does it end, just heard what ben crump had to say. you know, is it a crime todobels

the latest on this case? >> that is the same question that has rocked people across the country, but of course black communities in kansas city and beyond here. and there is anger right now on the ground there is a little bit of relief for them that andrew lester will be facing these two major felony charges. but there is a question of why, days after the shooting he still has not been brought in to custody. where is he? what is going on what is causing this delay here is what we keep hearing from people on the ground and there have been some confusing elements of this case. of course, you mentioned the push for hate crime charges here, and hearing last night at the press conference that even the prosecutor acknowledged there is a racial component here but that's the extent of what we heard. people are wondering why he said that, what details he may know and what more we might be able to understand about lester's motivations and reaction to the 16-year-old at his door that evening. we also now know more gruesome

details about the fact that after ralph yarl was shot, again, a 16-year-old who is a leader in the marching band, and by all accounts beloved and high achieving student -- >> he was helping out his mom -- >> getting his siblings and stumbled out on to the street and knocked on three different neighbors' doors before he was able to get assistance that day, chris. so, while there are these updates and people are grateful for these pending charges, the reality is there is still immense heart break and anger on the ground >> christina, can you address that anger on the ground how long is the list going to be of what parents of young black boys have to talk to them about in terms of what might get you shot >> i mean, sadly, it is not just black boys, it is black girls, not just black men, it is black women, you know. we know we can't be at church, we can't be walking on the

sidewalk now, now we can't even knock on the door. we also as antonia pointed out, you know, there were several other people who saw a child pleat bleeding out and did nothing it is not just the trauma of the yarl family, his classmates, they know it could be them i love the fact that he's a leader in the band and he's an upstanding student, but he shouldn't have to be for us to care you know, for children who were shot -- i live in new york, it is very loud outside -- for children who were shot, it doesn't have to be that they have to be sort of these exemplars. we should care even if it is a child who isn't a leader in his community or her community and so this frustration, this anger, and this fear that every parent has has now been extended to children, you know, his classmates are wondering could they be next it is a blessing that ralph is still alive, but we know that far too many stories where attorney ben crump can't be

everywhere, advocating for every family this is just one case that we heard of, and we know there are so many others that we'll never hear of. >> this reminds me of the school shootings where there was a time, years ago, when you would cover it and people would say, i can't believe it is happening here same thing, when you see a shooting of an unarmed, in this case, teenage boy, black boy, i can't believe it's here. the people don't say that anymore. people say it happens everywhere people say we all have to be afraid so, one thing they look to is law enforcement, prosecutors we said pursuing two felony counts, but not hate crimes. what would they have to prove for it to be a hate crime and why not charge it, glen? >> yeah, chris, i agree with you. it is the proliferation of guns and the proliferation of hate and intolerance. it is such a deadly combination, it seems to happen everywhere.

and to answer your question about why not charge a hate crime, the first thing prosecutors want to do is assess what is the most readily provable crime and they already brought two crimes against the defendant in this case, and one of those crimes has up to life in prison as a punishment. so what prosecutors will ask is how much evidence do we have that this was a racially motivated attack or assault and, you know, do we need to bring that part of the case in order to convict and hold accountable this gunman for what he did. now, i did hear the prosecutor say there was a, quote, racial component. i reviewed the affidavit and the only thing that we see in the paper work is that the gunman said that he saw a young black male on -- at his front door and he was therefore in fear that's relevant, but doesn't necessarily rise to the level of

a hate crime but we're so early in the investigation that we'll have to see whether there is more evidence that has developed. what i will say is when i read the affidavit, in support of the arrest warrant, when ralph yarl rang the bell and stood there by all accounts politely and quietly and unarmed, the defendant opened his door and there was a locked door, a locked glass door that remained between he and this 16-year-old boy, and he fired through the glass door with this young man doing nothing aggressive, saying nothing aggressive and being unarmed and having handled a lot of alleged self-defense cases as a prosecutor, that is not self-defense >> let me ask you really quickly, whether they charge the way they have it or charge the hate crime, and understanding there is different level of proof, he's 84 years old he is likely to spend the rest of his life in prison? >> if he's convicted on either of the two counts that have thus

far been charged, it is hard to see how that is not a de facto life sentence for what he did, which it sure looks like he richly earned. >> but, christina, but, is it important, do you think, to charge the hate crime, to call it, if indeed that's what happened, we don't know as glen points out, we don't have the details of why, you know, an official said that there was a racial component to it, is it important if there was to charge a hate crime to send that message? >> yeah, chris, you know, i always defer to glen on that but i think it is -- we have sort of two competing tensions, right? one is a lot of folks want justice. and if these two counts can put him away for the rest of his life, then many families will feel that justice has been served for others, they want to make sure it is a hate crime, stated on the books, so that for future reference, for future precedent,

we know when this happens and sadly we know this is america, most likely it will happen again, not just in missouri or in kansas or new york, in any of the 50 states, just to make sure that there is a precedent to -- so that others will either be deferred or deterred or 9 justice system can sort of more clearly lay out what a hate crime looks like and have this case as precedent. i think as the family talks to ben crump and the various lawyers, whether or not they'll push to sort of make sure that the hate crime is on the books, or if they'll be satisfied with knowing that if he's convicted, he could spend the rest of his days behind bars. >> antonia, what do we know about how ralph yarl is doing today? >> well, chris, by all accounts from the attorneys and the family, the recovery is up and down there is this happiness, of course, he's out of the hospital, now at home with

family and recovering there. but these were two very serious wounds he's looking at traumatic brain injuries, and, according to his aunt, at some moments there is that appreciation of being alive, and at others there is that anger of why did this happen to me take a listen to the family describing what some of this has been like. >> there is a major part of ralph that died on thursday. >> yeah. >> what ralph went through, like, he lost a part of himself that day a lot has changed since that happened the way in which he's going to walk through this world is going to be totally different because of what happened there is a lot of healing that is going to have to happen after that event and every single day it is a challenge. every hour is a different story. and it is a long road. >> you heard it there, there is a long road ahead for this

16-year-old who as you showed the images is receiving a lot of love and support from the community, classmates, students, sending the family notes and messages, marching on the streets to show their support for him as he recovers but then there is the other front here of still the push for justice and the fact that for many of these folks, they are not going to be able to sigh a breath of relief until lester is in custody and behind bars >> antonia, great to have you here, thank you for that thank you, both. now to an incredibly disturbing story out of oklahoma the sheriff of mccurtain county with several of his top officials were caught on tape discussing how to kill reporters and complaining that they can no longer lynch black people. the recording sparked local protests, the governor has ordered an investigation to see if any laws were broken. in the meantime, he's called on those officials to resign. the fbi and the state attorney general are also looking into

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on so-called woke companies, including his ongoing culture war over bud light's partnership with a transgender influencer. i want to bring inbc senior congressional correspondent garrett haake, host of msnbc's "way too early," jonathan lemire, and communications director and lincoln project senior adviser tara setmyer. garrett, who is going and what might desantis accomplish here >> what matters for a variety of reason and it is interesting, of course, desantis is not declared candidate. this event is being hosted by a pac that is hosting two events for him in south carolina tomorrow just a random state, not important to getting nominated to the presidency, but the event tonight is co-hosted in part by two lawmakers who endorsed

desantis, even though he's not in the race yet, and there is other names on the list that are interesting, mike lee, republican senator from utah who was a fairly close ally of donald trump and mike gallagher, a rising star in the house republican orbit there, close to leadership, the chairman of the select committee on china. these are the kind of folks who you would like to see if you're desantis or in his camp beyond your team if and when you announce presidential run and, by the way, even by having their names on this announcement, probably putting a little bit of a target on their back with donald trump and his political allies, so what comes out of this meeting whether there is any kind of obvious takeaway tonight or tomorrow, it does sort of affect the longer term trajectory for all these folks as we head into 2024 >> so, tara, it leads me to the obvious question, if you're a congressional republican, how worried are you about the fallout from the former president if you show up at a

desantis event >> well, if history is any indicator, you should be very worried. we all know that donald trump holds grudges and this is part of the reason why many in the republican party have not taken it to him straight and been honest about how they feel about him in public. we already know based off the dominion lawsuit how a lot of folks feel about trump in private because they're worried about getting primaried. what is interesting too about who is hosting these events for desantis, you don't see too many florida delegation fol- has five at least endorsements from florida congressman donald trump. so ron desantis was not a popular guy when he was in congress he was a c lister and his personality is well known. he's not very warm and fuzzy going back up to washington to try to reassure his colleagues and try to get their support also because of a lot of megadonors now, reports coming out that their concerned about desantis' ability to take on donald trump, they think he's a

wimp and doesn't have what it takes, he's trying to go on the circuit and show that he is that guy, but polls don't show that and his behavior taking on disney is not only petulant, but should be concerned to people who claim they're free market conservatives. political retribution against a private company is definitely not conservative and quite frankly un-american. >> is that what you think he's trying to do showing he's tough, i can stand up to disney even though biggest employer in the state, how is it likely to play that, you know, you're going to go against a company that is so intertwined with your economic interest. what do you make of what we're seeing from desantis both about he just won't give up on disney and now doesn't seem to want to give up on transgender issues? >> what he's trying to do is embrace the mantle of being a fighter, he's fighting this corporate behemoth and cultural

war issues that's something that republicans have like. that's a mantle that donald trump has worn effectively and the gop for years now. it is a curious strategy disney is the largest employer in the state of florida. bob iger, the head of disney suggest there will be expansions there soon a lot of people in florida who draw their paycheck from mickey mouse. this seems to be perhaps a risky proposition from desantis. he's all in on the culture wars. as he's doing so, he seems to be speaking to a smaller portion of the electorate here. it is on the lgbtq issues with disney and others, the banning of the books in schools, we know, of course, about some of his efforts that he's -- sorry, and that he's on the abortion ban, which he signed in the middle of the night, down to six weeks, lower and more extreme than most states in the nation and we heard some republicans grow concerned he is indeed talking to a small piece that

might help him in the state of florida, but not as if you look to win nationally. we see in the polls, he's slipping donald trump's lead has grown in recent weeks, particularly after trump's indictment there is real concern now that desantis may not have what it takes to take on trump and lastly, some in the party really aghast that desantis didn't cut short his book tour to come back to fort lauderdale, under heavy water and flooding, historic flooding and desantis never paid a visit. >> so, tara, someone else who may decide to challenge donald trump, and ron desantis if he runs, is chris christie, former new jersey governor. he was criticizing governor desantis's criticism of disney take a listen.

>> that's not the guy i want sitting across from president xi and negotiating our next agreement with china or sitting across from putin and trying to resolve what is happening in ukraine. i don't think ron desantis is a conservative based on his actions toward disney. >> we're starting to get the outline of a potential debate. >> yes there are some out there who would like to see this death match of desantis, christie and trump on the stage both of them have proven they don't have what it takes to take on donald trump thus far chris christie has some unmitigated gall during the position he took during donald trump's tenure it seems to me he's trying to reinvent himself and go after desantis and he's correct about desantis' point, he made the

same point i 345ed, about des, the chairman of goldman sachs came out and tweeted against desantis and said is this the guy you want as the leader of the free world, i don't think so. this temperament is very petulant, very in your face and the stubborn resistance to listening to his donors and supporters about it not being the best route to take, it is showing already and he's not an officially declared candidate yet. there is a lot of cracks in desantis as a candidate. he doesn't have what it takes to take on trump. and we have been saying this for over a year. >> how long do you people have to make a real decision that they're going to get in or not >> i think they have another month or two to do so. and desantis said he wants the

legislative session there in florida come to an end he needs to have a law change to seek office without having to resign christie has said may would be his target date as well. we heart from asa hutchinson, the former arkansas governor, he's jumping in. we know mike pompeo is against a return sooner or later, they have to jump in. we're seeing donald trump open the road he announced he'll be going to new hampshire for his next rally in his own 2024 bid. >> we got a lot to talk about in the days and weeks to come as more and more people get in. tara setmyer, thank you for being with me. evan gershkovich, what we're now hearing from his attorney. we've golt that next

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. today we got the first chance to see american journalist evan gershkovich, in the see through box in a moscow courtroom, he's wearing a blue plaid shirt, jeans, he conferred with his lawyers and paced as expected, the judge denied his appeal against continued detention and ordered him to stay at an infamous prison

awaiting trial on espionage charges that he, his lawyer and the u.s. have all vehemently denied nbc's meagan fitzgerald is following the case for us. what did we learn today about how gershkovich is doing, what the u.s. is doing for him, and where does his case go now >> well, you know, chris, as you mentioned, the united states has said they're doing everything in their power to try and secure his release. earlier today, the court hearing went as expected it was certainly suspected that he would be denied and that's what happened today. he will now remain in jail until his trial and we know that this is nothing like the united states there is no right to a fair and speedy trial so, we don't know exactly when that trial date will be set. we suspect it is supposed to be at the end of may, but a similar situation like we saw with brittney griner, her trial date was supposed to be set en a certain day, it got pushed months and months down the road. that's certainly something that

we'll be watching. yesterday, he had an opportunity to speak with the u.s. ambassador to russia, lynn tracy. she finally gained access to speak with him she said and she tweeted this, she said he's in good health, he remains strong, our cameras had an opportunity to be inside the courtroom briefly today and he certainly appeared to appear as so we also heard from the ambassador earlier today i want you to listen to what she had to say >> i can only say how troubling it was to see evan, an innocent journalist, held in these circumstances. i was able to meet evan yesterday at the prison. i can report he's in good health and remains strong despite his circumstances. we will continue to provide all appropriate support to evan and his family the charges against evan are baseless and we call on the

russian federation to immediately release him. >> so, you know, we're seeing tremendous support for evan gershkovich. we know the united states government is doing everything they can we know the parent company of "the wall street journal" tried to put forth more than $600,000 to secure his bail of course, that didn't work. but we do know that all of this support at the very least is comforting for his family. >> a new mexico judge, the decision grants the right of privacy to the 10-year-old son of slain cinematographer halyna hutchins two weeks of evidentiary hearings are scheduled in may. and students from the

covenant school in nashville are going back to class today for the first time since the shooting there left six people dead, including three of their classmates but they won't be returning to the covenant school itself just yet. right now students are meeting at the church of christ, officials say the school itself will reopen in phases. the landmark dominion versus fox defamation case goes to trial. nbc news is following all the highlights from inside the courthouse and we're live with the details next (vo) red lobster presents fun dining: taste buds need not be faithful to one shrimp dish. thrill them with shrimp three ways. try the new cajun shrimp trio, richly seasoned with cajun flavor. it's a bold new way for shrimp three ways. welcome to fun dining.

the challenge for dominion, to prove that fox broadcast damaging false claims with actual malice. in other words, knowing the claims were false or with reckless disregard for the truth. they're seeking $1.6 billion in damages. fox is argue the case is about protecting the first amendment right to cover the news. nbc's emilie ikeda joins us from outside the courthouse, also with us, chris maddie, the lawyer who won the defamation case against alec jones and

infowars good to have both of you here emilie, set the scene for us outside the courtroom. >> reporter: at any moment, opening statements will be getting under way here dominion will lead off, fox to follow for the last couple of hours we saw the jury selection process be completed and finalized, but already some courtroom drama playing out after the 12 jurors were selected and the 12 alternate jurors were selected one of the alternate jurors said i can't do that. and so the judge gave each legal team the chance to have an additional strike before the final jury was empanelled, just an hour or so ago. i was in the courtroom earlier this morning, i can tell you there are seven rows and people are packed in like sardines. journalists, members of legal teams, people of the public, all waiting to watch this high stakes trial play out over the next five to six weeks, which is the anticipated timeline for this trial opening statements as i mentioned before set to get under way any moment

they're anticipated to take 1 1/2 hours from dominion and then fox we won't hear any witnesses today. likely first thing tomorrow. and the potential witnesses, potential figures speaks to one of the reasons why this is such a closely followed case. we could hear from fox corporate chairman rupert murdoch and the top and most popular hosts, sean hannity, maria bartiromo and tucker carlson >> thank you for that. i'll let you go. i know you've got a trial to pay attention to chris, let's talk about the opening statements after your successful defamation suit against alec jones and infowars, what strategy would you be using here if you were representing dominion? >> i think with dominion's lawyers need to do is set out a very clear timeline for the jury about the publications that fox news was making, and the impact it was having on dominion in real time as it was happening. you know, the dominion lawyers need to set out just from the

very beginning exactly what was said, when it was said, and what impact that had on dominion. so that they can predict for the jury when they see the communications and the emails exactly what fox executives were thinking at the time those communications were being made >> so, fox arguing that they want their first amendment rights protected what do you make of what you heard from the fox folks so far. what do you make of the strength of their possible defense? >> well, the first amendment grants wide protections to all americans, especially when it comes to expressing their opinions the difficulty that fox is going to have is that they were having guests on and we're expressing opinions, they were expressing assertions of fact about dominion and the legitimacy of the election and they have to defend those assertions of fact the reality is that defamation and libel have been part of our culture and law since before the

constitution lies don't have any protection under the constitution because they don't serve the public's interest in being informed about their affairs. fox is going to have to walk a tight line when it comes to the first amendment protections. what dominion is going to say, these fertilized, they had no protection and you knew it and as a result of that, you caused us damage. >> today, dominion submitted its list of trial exhibits more than 7,000 exhibits that's on top of thousands of pages of filings, depositions, released before the trial started. so, tell me, you talked about a timeline, but what are you going to be looking for that may get to the heart of this case to be able to prove a reckless disregard for the truth? >> the key evidence is going to be the internal emails, and communications within fox news, expressing doubt or concern about the accuracy of the claims they were making on air.

remember, dominion has to prove that fox either knew what it was publishing was falls or acted with reckless disregard with whether or not those statements were true or false and if the hosts and on air executives are saying things like this is crazy, we don't see any evidence for this, we don't believe this, that's about as compelling evidence as you can get that they knew what they were putting out there to their audience was false those exhibits, those are going to be the most important. >> we're out of time i have to ask you quickly, i told folks you won the alec jones case do you think this is a weaker or stronger case than you had >> well, i mean, in some ways it is stronger because one of the defenses that alex jones try to put out he was a fly by night operation and shouldn't be held to the same -- fox doesn't have that the jury will expect they have internal controls when it comes

to publishing false information. in that sense, the evidence is stronger on the other hand, i think that fox is going to be able to point to at least some things that they suggest called into question for legitimacy, certain states elections here, with respect to alex jones, i don't think anybody believed what he was saying about this but still, i do think that dominion's claims that fox knew what it was doing was false and had every reason to not put that stuff out on the air is going to be the most compelling theme at the end of the day >> we have got many weeks of trial ahead, so i hope to talk to you again chris maddie, thank you. appreciate you coming on the program. george santos is officially running for re-election. who is already lining up to challenge him? and the major case before the supreme court right now that axios says could turn every workplace into a religious battleground that's coming up just ahead.

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congressman george santos clearly undeterred by the ongoing federal, state and local investigations against him or the calls for him to resign confirms he is running for re-election. in a tweet, the freshman republican says his decision to run again is about restoring greatness back to new york but he's already got a primary challenger and a noncommittal response from party leadership when asked if he favors a santos run, speaker kevin mccarthy laughed and said, quote, we'll wait and see who else files. nbc's ryan nobles is on capitol hill jonathan lemire is back with us. ryan, i'll go out on a limb and say it is not a good sign when party leadership is reluctant to support you for re-election. what more are you hearing and, by the way, do we have an update on the ethics investigation against santos >> well, to answer your second question first, chris, no, we don't have an update on the ethics investigation, and that

is not out of the ordinary in general, when the ethics committee launches an investigation, they're very tight lipped about the progress of that investigation. they were more forth coming than the ethics committee normally is about the extent of the investigation and all the different things they're looking into as part of santos' background we likely won't know the outcome until they settled on that decision and that tracks back to your first question about the reluctant of the republican party leadership to get behind santos for a second bid. there is a very likely scenario by which the ethics committee wraps up its investigation right during the heat of the campaign season and there is every indication that republican leaders want to at least hold their fire and make sure that they're going to be able to put up the best candidate in in what will likely be a very competitive district under any circumstances. especially given everything that's happened with santos. i just finished listening to a

very long podcast that son toes w santos was a part of he says that the media has it all wrong. that the perception that he has in his district is much different than it is around the rest of the country and he feel confident he can win re-election. >> he can feel that, but there was an actual poll that said more than three quarters of constituents that said he should resign he has big money problems. "the new york times" put it that way. while other first term republicans raised hundred of thousands of dollars in the first few months of the year, mr. santos raised only about $5,000 can his campaign survive >> he's certainly not going to get far on that. this is yet another, i suppose fitting moment of shamelessness for george santos who has ignored of course, calls to resign has ignored a lot of calls to come clean

he's owned up to some misfabrications but not all it would seem and he certainly is not bowing to party wishes to not run again. he would seem to be beatable in a republican primary and if he were somehow to advance there against a democratic opponent in a general election, but it could cost his party's seat. we know how slim the margin is the gop holds in the house right now. it was in part because of their success in new york state at the blue state, of course, but republicans did well in some battleground districts that they feel like this is a district which i believe is d plus two could be put back in democrats hands because of the anger about santos, whether his name ends up being on the ballot in 2024, but he is planning on staying the course for someone who has declared he was jewish, i guess chutzpah is the right word here. >> the guy who said he's going to run against him in a primary

has a pretty impressive resume eight years of service in the air force. did a stint with jpmorgan. there you see his campaign kellen for congress. would you expect the republican party to abandon him or do they need his vote still so much that maybe for as long as they can, they'll just ignore the race assume he is going to lose anyway and that they've got a better alternative >> that is a pretty impressive resume of course, george santos would probably be more impressive but, his of course is not true. but jokes aside, that's part of the reason why mccarthy has kept him as arm's length and hasn't been willing to cut him loose because he needs every vote he can get in the house we know how difficult it's going to be for him to get things done considering how slim his majority is and how they're at different factions within the gop. santos to this point has pledged loyalty to mccarthy. probably pretty smart for him to do so. so at least for now, mccarthy's best bet is to hold his nose,

keep santos close, hope to get his vote and hope he gets replaced by another republican next year. >> i don't know if you know this, jonathan, but the reason they hired you to do way too early is because of your ph.d. in nuclear engineering >> yeah. welcome back from vacation, by the way. ryan nobles, we're going to check out your resume, next. we're keeping an eye on the white house where president biden is going to be speaking about affordable childcare in just about ten minutes we'll have that for you when it starts but first, new chemical concerns are officials doing enough as people fear breathing in toxic air? 'vwee got that, next ♪ what will you do? will you make something better? create something new? our dell technologies advisors can provide you with the tools and expertise you need to bring out the innovator in you.

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there are growing concerns over the exposure of potentially dangerous chemicals across the country. after a recent wave of toxic fires and spills

here's nbc's tom costello. >> reporter: from that massive fire in georgia to a chemical spill near philadelphia, the train derailment in east palestinian and plastics fire in richmond, indiana, fear of the unknown is most terrifying the epa finding hydrogen cyanide, benzine zpl it's hard for me to breathe and my lungs are hurting i have extremely bad headaches >> reporter: lynn childers already had efrp zee ma. he was outside gardening with his great grandchild >> and this black soot or something falling from the sky >> i want to make sure my kids are going to be okay >> reporter: a coalition of groups working to track and prevent chemical disasters estimates there's a chemical

fire, expellosion or toxic reles every day in this country. >> you can't smell cancer on your skin. these can do harm over a period of time. >> reporter: they want stronger epa regulations on hazmat storage, switching to safer alternatives and informing communities and firefighters of the toxins in their backyards. experts warn even minimal exposure can do lasting damage >> how long? weeks, months, years >> reporter: lynn is most concerned for his 4-year-old great grandchild >> my time probably is short in this life but my grandchildren and my great grandchildren, what's the long time health effects and it's going to be on her. >> nbc news. t. >> we have a lot to cover in our second hour of chris jansing reports. let's get right to it.