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today. opening statements were supposed to start at 1:30 so far though, neither side has spoken and no reason has been given for the now hour and a half delay while we are waiting, we have just learned judge davis has authorized a special master to investigate fox's handling of discovery. we're going to explain in a moment this trial, when it does eventually start again, is not being televised. and nor can it be photographed one person was already kicked out of the courtroom for a snap, which the judge has said was deleted. don't worry though, we've got our own reporters inside the courtroom updating us with the details. how exactly is this trial going to go? well, at least there's this. the judge ruled from the start that the election was not stolen and that fox was wrong to report that it was. in fact, he said it was crystal clear his words that the statements put out by the network and its hosts were false. now it is up to dominion to
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prove that there was actual malice behind those falsehoods, which is the bar for defamation. so what do they need to do to do that a first amendment lawyer with 30 years of experience will explain that to us in a moment but first, let's get to the reporting. joining me now from outside the courthouse in wilmington delaware is eamon javers also with me is brian chung and "washington post" senior political reporter, aaron blake. javers, excuse me. talk to me about what's happening now. no word on this delay. >> it's a little bit mysterious here the judge read the jury about their responsibilities the jury was impanelled. they had 12 jurors, 12 alternates then sent them out to lunch and told them they were going to be gone for an hour and
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they've been gone for three hours and we have no idea where they went or why there's been such a lengthy delay we are on pins and needles to find out what's going on is this a technical snafu? also a development that the judge has appointed a special master now to look into the fox news legal team to find out if they followed up on all their obligations in terms of discovery. the judge suspects maybe they didn't now this special master will take a look at that. the kfox news team has apologizd to the judge last night he issued a statement saying he accepts their apology but i guess not so much that he would appoint this special master and a mystery, we're ticking into about three hours into this delay where we thought we would be back in action. >> this is from lisa ruben
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she says the special master can depose whomever he wishes and that all costs associated with that must be paid for by fox aaron, remind us what prompted this special master consideration first and now the authorization of it? why did he suddenly suspect fox was not being forthcoming? >> so basically this traces back to last week when the dominion lawyer claimed that fox had essentially obscured rupert murdoch's role as an officer in fox corporation. he's a cofounder of fox news but whether he had a title as an officer with fox news bears upon what kind of evidence had to be produced with regards to murdoch. so dominion's case is basically that they were misled about this and it might have led to them not getting certain evidence that they might have otherwise have seen. so it's the judge saying i'm
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going to have somebody get some evidence, report back. the judge did rebuke fox pretty sharply last week so i think it's going to be something certainly worth watching moving forward. >> there is so much that's already been out there surrounding this case. so much of the discovery process has been released to the public and we've learned a lot about text messages and conversations being had. of all of the exhibits that are out there, more than 7,000 by the way, fox transcripts, e-mail, texts and trump tweets, can you give us an idea of so far to what we know, our knowledge, aaron, are the highlights what are the standouts >> well, i would expect and maybe this is just a guess right now, bewe're going to see an opening statement from din yan's lawyers. they're going to distill a
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complicated a case down to about an hour. this is 700 exhibits a lot of depositions and exhibits that have been released before i wouldn't be surprised to see them zero in on specific cases and hosts. specifically somebody like a lou dobbs who embraced some of these theories rather than just allowing people on his show to share them uncritically. so maybe this is going to be an opportunity for dominion to focus on individual actors and try to tie that into a larger case because this is such a complex piece of legislatuion. >> brian, let's talk about the business angle of this this is a roughly billion dollar case right now obviously the jury can decide damages. it doesn't have to go that high. it could go even higher. how able is fox to take a hundreds of millions of dollars hit? >> yeah, well legal experts that
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i have spoken with said that the $1.6 billion that dthey're askig if is to pick a higher number and set a lower floor. they don't expect that number to be what fox pays but say they pay that amount. fox would be able to pay that. that's because they had over $4 billion in cash and cash equivalents as of their last quarterly report daeted the end of december. so they have the ability to pay that large of a fine without having to sell any assets or make any dramatic changes to their business model and the last filing with the securities and exchange commission noted the company wouldn't have a quote adverse effect on its business so they have the ability to pay out even the harshest penalties from this case >> what about the stock? it's fallen 10% since dominion sued back in march of 2021 the same time as the dow has
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risen more than 2% if a verdict comes out that is unfavorable for fox, if fox loses this, what are the concerns regarding the company's stock? >> yeah, it's an important point you bring up it's a publicly traded company it's a slimmer company since fox basically unrolled its media and entert entertainment as sets to disney it's been performing not so welcome paired to the overall market it's been two years the filing has been known about bank of america securities and those on wall street have projections out there. bank of america saying march 28th that for every $500 million in damages fox pays, that could be a $1 per share hit. about $33.82 that the fox a shares were trading at so $1 would not be that impactful. this is going to bankrupt the company. >> gentlemen, thank you very much now to executive director george
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f freeman. he spent 31 years as the chief first amendment lawyer in the legal department of the new york new york city. re it's really great to have you. i've spoken to you a lot about the first amendment and our role as journalists it's a tough job, defending journalism because it's combative and people get angry about it this trial centers around the first amendment. fox is arguing they have unlimited defense there because it was news worthy although they're not allowed to argue news worthiness. talk to me about what's at stake here and is it as easy as saying fox did something bad and they should be punished for it? >> i think dominion would like the jury to look at it in that easy fashion but it's a little more complicated that than, obviously. you made a good point which is that really fox's pr defense since day one is that these were statements made by the president
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and his ak lights and they had a journalistic responsibility to report what those people said about the presidential election. what could be more news worthy than that? the problem is that good journalism and good law diverge and technically, you're not supposed to repeat or broadcast what other people are saying if they're false. you're responsible for what they say in effect. that's what the law is but fox has been saying no, the first amendment allows us because it's news worthy the judge in what i thought was a harsh ruling against fox said he's not going to accept the so-called neutral reporting privilege, which would give you license to report things that others say if you do it in a neutral way and if you do it, if the people making the original statements were responsible people, then you should be allowed after all to repeat these news worthy things i'm sure nbc reported what trump said about the election.
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they just didn't endorse it. and i would have thought that that question of whether or not fox endorsed these crazy tales is what the jury should be deciding but instead, the judge took the wind out of fox's sails and said they can't even make that argument they can't, the neutral report privilege he rejected, which was i think was a mistake because it fit this case perfectly. and that it would have required the jury to decide whether giuliani was responsible and whether fox was endorsing the statements but the judge didn't allow that and doesn't even allow fox now to use apparently the concept of news worthiness as an excuse for why it put these people on the air. >> what can fox now argue? >> the only issue really left in the case is actual malice. which is you know, what plagued public officials and public figures have to prove to win liable cases
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interestingly, this is important, actual malice has nothing to do with malice meaning ill will or spite. then the second definition the supreme court gave us 57 years ago, 59 years ago, was reckless disregard. and it has nothing to do with recklessness either. it has to do with what was fox's state of mind to the extent that could be determined. did it have serious doubts those are the keywords did it have serious doubts as to what it was putting on the air and was there a conscious awareness of probably falsity? that's a high bar. it should be because it allows us to talk freely about the government and about the people who are leading our society. >> so instead of talking about malice, we should wbe talking about serious doubts and did they have awareness of probable consciousness of falsity when you look at the exhibits
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we've seen so far, we've seen a lot of the discovery process played out in public a lot has been released. is there anything in there you've seen that says to you gosh, that really shows you that fox had serious doubts and they had conscious awareness of probable falsity >> i think, i can't comment on the documents because all i've seen is the reporting about them, which might not be in total context, but it certainly seems that compared to most liable cases, there's more of that here than you normally have which is why many colleagues of mine think that you know, dominion has a pretty good chance of winning despite the high bar that exists >> is this a slippery slope for journalism will it make it harder for journalists to do their job if fox loses? >> i don't think so at all
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if fox loses, this will be looked at as a case with outrageous facts >> will it change the way fox does business? >> i don't think so because it hasn't so far. it will cost them a lot of money. >> but they're still making money hand over fist so what are the consequences for spread lies if they're found to have been consciously spreading lies knowingly spreading lies? >> i think we all know the journalists shouldn't knowingly spread lies. you know, with how fox behaves and ou others behave i don't think would change nearly as much as it might have bchanged and maybe plaintiffs bringing more lawsuits because former presidents carping on fake news and enemy of the people. he's railed about the press for the last six years i think that the case has more of an effect the other way around if fox wins because if fox wins, then those who want review of the case that sets
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this high bar are going to say you see we told you so this bar is too high no one can win and let's change it >> then it could potentially go to the supreme court >> i think that might have a negative effect. so ironically, the effect on journalism could be worse in the media wins this case than vice versa. >> george,thank you very much for coming on and lending all of that 30 years of expertise to us today. >> thank you coming up, the man accused of shooting teenager ralph yarl turned himself in. what the young man's mom says about how her son is recovering after the attack plus, the group behiend the texas abortion pill case pushes the support to keep the ban in place. i'll be joined by congresswoman nancy mace what she's saying about her own party's stance on abortion and why oklahoma's governor is calling for the resignation of a sheriff in his own state we're back in 60 seconds
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residual effect of that injury is going to stay with him for quite a while. he's home, but i want to remind everybody that ralph is home because he's surrounded by a team of medical professional i'm a nurse for almost 20 years. his aunt is a physical therapy his upncle is a medical professional that's why he's home so let's put that into perspective. >> the 16-year-old is home, but his mom does want people to know it does not mean that he is okay yarl was shot in the head after ringing the wrong doorbell after days of public outcry, the shooter, 84-year-old andrew lester, now faces two felony charges. he has turned himself in and is now in custody joining me now from kansas city
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is nbc news correspondent, maggie vespa so there was a warrant out for his arrest took some time to get him. what do we know now? >> reporter: that's the biggest update, that lester turning himself in being held in the clay county detention center on those two felony counts. it's first degree assault and then armed criminal action those are the two charges filed last night by clay county prosecutors. it's really the first one, the first degree assault charge, that's paramount here because prosecutors say as a result under missouri law, andrew lester could face life in prison again for the shooting of 16-year-old ralph yarl he's now out of the hospital recovering at home, but could have permanent injuries according to his family tourn. has a traumatic brain injury his speech is impaired has a long road ahead. per the probable cause statement released late yesterday, we're
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kind of getting an indication as to what we might see as a defense from andrew lester from the homeowner. he was telling detectives in that probable cause statement that he says the night, thursday night when this happened, he says someone rang his doorbell he reached for his gun walked toward the door and he says that person was jiggling the handle of the glass storm day. the outer door he said he was quote scared to death, thought someone was trying to break in yarl's family disputes that. he only rang the doorbell, never grabbed the handle or tried to enter to home. we're seeing conflicting stories. >> can you give me an update on what happened after he was shot? >> reporter: he was shot in the head and the arm and basically
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he says his family says and lester said in that probable cause statement that the teenager took off running with those injuries, basically fueled on adrenaline. went house to house, three total, his family attorney said the first two people either weren't home or weren't coming to the door. and then the third house, he was told by someone who seemingly didn't know what was going on to get on the ground and put his hands in the air so this wounded teenager did that and that's when we're hearing from neighbors that they sort of realized what was going on this person was in dire need of help they came out to help the teenager and emts showed up. so he ran to basically help himself, again, after being shot in the head. so just an absolutely stunning story and perhaps why he's alive today. >> thank you very much ahead, we got our first look at evan in a russian court this morning. what is next for the "wall
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golo is real and when you take release and follow the plan, it works. the plaintiffs who won a texas lawsuit to ban the abortion pill filed their brief with the supreme court today arguing the justices should deny the motion to stay the ruling. they want mifepristone off pharmacy shelves right now and while the doj wants the pill to remain available, we have to wait and see though what the justices decide. they want to do with the case. joining me now is laura jarrett. so there are three possible scenarios that we will find out by 11:59 p.m. tomorrow >> we might hear right now while i'm on this set. >> and then we heard later friday night so later friday afternoon. >> nothing stops them from doing
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it now now that the plaintiffs have decided to put it in their brief, they could decide right now. there are three possible scenarios. what i think is most likely. they could keep the stay in place which would mean nothing changes. pill remains available case would go back down to the fifth circuit, which is the lower court where it comes from, but essentially, it would mean nothing changes or the justices could deny the justice department for a stay which would cause i think considerable confusion mostly because you still have that washington case that i keep banging on about it tells the fda to do the opposite if the justices were to lift the stay, which would change everything, then they would have to conceivably explain how in the world do you square that with a decision that say it is exact opposite let's put that aside and say for instance they do something
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different which is to grab the case for themselves. that's the third alternative which is to say we think there's some sticky regulatory issues here let's hear the case for ourselves then the question is just when do they want to hear it do they want to fast track it and get it done before summer recess >> it starts at the end of june. they would have to really fast track it >> if they decide to taek it for themselves, they could decide to keep everything on ice and hear it next fall >> they could say i know this is supposed to wind its way through the courts with a number of appeal, but we think we want to take it and resolve it because it will get to us regardless >> even if under those first two things i laid out, it goes back to the fifth circuit, eventually it's coming back anyway. >> it's how quickly they want to hear it. this year, next year, or four year years down the liep. >> either the justice department loses and they'll appeal or the
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plaintiff. >> this washington case which says leave it on the market shelves. as it stands how do you have those two cases, those two rulings stay at the same time? how do you have one texas judge who says mifepristone was not properly put on the market the safety procedures were in the followed and a washington judge saying no, everything is fine you can't just have it banned in texas and you know, other states >> no, but there are two federal judges with equal jurisdiction. the only complication is with the washington ruling, it doesn't apply nationwide only to the 17 states, plus the district of columbia that sued that's only because those were the democratic attorneys general who decided to do a case, a mirror image it was just a strategy decision. new york didn't join california didn't join huge states. >> is that a possibility or
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would that be wrong? >> you can't it's a federal court and so how do you ignore a judge's order? it's why the justice department is screaming about this thing. >> so it seems like the logical answer here is that they will hold on to this stay they will allow the stay to move forward as this winds its way through the courts or they just take it. >> the only question is whether they take it for themselves right now or decide to kick it back down the fifth circuit. >> thank you very much for joining us and joining me now from capitol hill is south carolina congresswoman, nancy mace. she has been outspoken about the gop's failure to moderate itself on the issue of abortion thank you very much for joining us it to get your position on the abortion pill. what do you think should happen with it? >> well, we will see the decision likely tomorrow from the supreme court on that decision i was vocal about it last week this was an unelected judge
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making a decision to ban this federally. this abortion pill, which a lot of people may not know the decision was based on a law deemed unconstitutional, the com stock act that the supreme court deemed unconstitutional in 1983. this is more than an abortion pill doctors have prescribed it for women suffering from miscarriages it's used in certain cancer treatments used for rare diseases there's a lot more to this than meets the yeye. >> you have your own personal experience with it and you said that the republican party is extreme on it and that they don't know how to talk about it. why is it that the republican party is holding on to these extreme measures on abortion that are not popular with the american public especially since they keep losing elections >> we lost seats because of this issue last year and i will tell
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you, 45 days after roe v. wade was overturned, my district changed dramatically it was no longer a republican district i saw it firsthand what happened i wonderf resoundingly. i'm a victim of rape raped at the age of 16, but buzz i because i'm talking about rape, incest, foster care, adoption services, a lot of these groups has have been attacking me i don't understand why we can't find common ground for example, if you're going the ban abortion, the minimum we should be doing is making sure every woman in every county in this country has access to birth control. in south carolina for example, we have 14 counties that don't have a single obgyn doctor a little bit of common sense
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would go a long way. >> we can put up all sorts of polling on abortion. we know where most americans stand on it. we can put up a map of the states that have outright banned it what do you say to voter who says they don't want to vote for the republican party because they feel the republican party is out to punish women you just talked about the lack of obgyns in south carolina. >> i'm in a very purple district although i'm in south carolina, it's a very purple district. the independent voters outnumber republicans by double digits i spoke to an independent voter that left the republican party over this issue. she's not alone. she considers herself pro-choice in that, she told me h her gestational limits are 14 weeks. i'm between 15 and 20 weeks, but whether you're pro-life or pro-choice, there's so much we agree on and it's how we talk
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about it with one another that really makes a difference to those independent voters who are going to determine the outcome of the 2024 presidential election and by the way, as you know, republicans have not won the popular vote in years. and this is an issue that is going to exacerbate that in '24. >> you need suburban women let me ask you about the other big issue out there. that's guns. you've said again that there are common sense compromises that can be had between the parties that americans would support you've talked about background checks, which has a lot of support across the country majority support amber alerts potentially putting out a notice that says there's a shooting in the area, stay home. pardoning schools and churches, et cetera. the other big thing is how do you feel about assault weapons being on the market? do you think there should be restrictions to assault weapons? >> i don't i'm not a gun control person because i talk about gun
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violence a lot unfortunately, my district in south carolina is not a stranger to mass shootings. the problem is as soon as indi say gun violence, people think i'm tal talking gun control. somewhere like abortion there's a middle ground strengthening background checks. hardening schools is another but as a republican because i say i don't want kids shot at school, it makes headlines and it shouldn't but when nashville happened, we offered easter baskets and silence and prayers and easter baskets aren't going to cut it. another story that i shared ten days ago, my kids and i were a mile away from a mass shooting where six people were shot and the first thing my babies asked me were mommy, where's the amber alert to tell us we're near a mass shooting and maybe not leave the house or location. we witnessed the immediate aftermath of the shooting.
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all the police cars and ems vehicles why is this so controversial to talk about why is it wrong? it shouldn't be. >> why not limit assault weapons? just the weapons that are intended to shoot off godly amount of rounds in seconds. the stuff that takes no time to kill multiple people i mean, not talking about handguns, rifles i'm talking about assault weap weapons. weapons of war >> these guns were originally manufactured by civilians for civilians, not for the military. i look at places like chicago. >> the guy who made the ar-15 has said and his family has said they are horrified by the way it's being used. >> right but pistols have been used, also if you look at chicago where they have banned ar-15s, you can't carry more than a pistol in chicago every weekend, there are dozens
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and dozens of shootings. >> isn't that an argument to take all guns off the market when you say pistols also kill people >> car, vehicles kill people, too that's the thing we have a constitution and we should look at the framework that our founders gave us and work with that frame work. when i was growing up, kids had guns in their cars and they were going to go hunt after school. i grew up in south carolina so it wasn't uncommon, but something has changed today where by in the shooting my kids and i were close by, these were teenagers with loaded guns and we're seeing in south carolina a huge increase in kids coming to school with loaded guns. i want to look at how is this happening in states and what are we doing to curtail it i think when you look from a law enforcement perspective, too, i've toured the biggest jail in south carolina is in my district half the offenders haval health issues. i think it's a broader conversation we can have here.
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why is this happening? why are these guns on the market especially firearms possessed by people that shouldn't have them. how do we tighten background checks make our communities safer how do we do it in a way that doesn't violate the constitution >> it's a conversation that absolutely needs to be had there needs to be some compromise because the leading killer of kids is not car accidents. it's not cancer. it's guns. the leading killer of kids in this country nowhere else in the world is like that. thank you very much for coming on and talking to us today appreciate your time >> thank you and coming up next, caught on tape. an oklahoma county sheriff and several top officials were recorded reminiscing about hanging black people and talking about murdering a local journalist we've got the audio and the reaction from the governor and president biden made an announcement today on childcare. what did he say and what will his directive actually do? doors can take us to new adventures and long-term goals.
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audio, but in the clips, it appears the officials were talking about plans to beat, kill, and hide the bodies of that same local reporters and his father, making barbecue yolks about a whom who died in a recent house fear and the fact they could no longer lynch black people a warning that what you're about to hear is both disturbing and offensive. >> i heard the other day say two 12 people, let's get 20. they don't have a [ bleep ] clue what they're getting into. everybody -- >> back in the day when the -- take [ bleep ] i'd run for [ bleep ] sheriff. >> take them down a mud creek and hang them up with a damn rope they got more rights than we got. >> joining me now from tulsa,
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erin christie. thank you so much. so this conversation, we started with him talking about multiple people those were people talking about running for sheriff. that's why he's saying bring ten, 20 more that's when he dwgoes on to say the offensive stuff. >> exactly yes. and thank you so much for having me on today. the community obviously horrified. they're outraged, especially about the comments about lynching and hiring hit men. however, there is also a lot of people out there who aren't shocked about this because they've been reading a lot of articles that have been running in the paper and they're grateful it was this article that got a larger media pe presence >> why are these officials talking like that? >> so the mccurtain gazette,
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they're an independent local newspaper. they have zero online presence and this is a very rural area. but they are not like a community based paper where you think of festivals this is an investigative unit. so they put togethers of corruption within the sheriff'fi questionable promotions. improper investigations. and it was angering the sheriff's office and the reporter, chris willingham, filed a defamation lawsuit because after those articles appeared, according to this lawsuit, alicia manning, one of the people in the recording, retaliated by telling a third party by teleconference that the reporter was exchange weed for child pornography so he has filed a slander suit against them and that is when they were in that commissioner's meeting talking about hiring potentially hit men to kill the publisher.
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>> let me play that audio. we have that >> but the thing of it is, you know -- >> we actually told the truth. >> i've known two or three hit men. very quiet guys. would cut no [ bleep ] mercy >> yeah. >> in louisiana. >> oh, yeah, but here's the reality. if a hair on his wife's head or any of those people that really were behind all that, if a hair on their head got touched by anybody, who would be the bad guys yeah yeah >> they also talk about two big deep holes, predug holes that they have. the governor is calling for their resignation. what's the word from these officials? >> we were out there yesterday we have not been able to speak directly to any of the people in this recording however, sheriff kevin clarity responded on facebook last
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night. he's indicating he believes the recordings have not been authenticated. he's investigating those and says they were illegally obtained he made no statements regarding the topics discussed so what happens be that is yet to be said >> they've not been authenticated but were illegally obtained thank you very much for joining us and coming up, a russian court rejects the appeal and now an american journalist will remain in jail on spying charges. what his family is saying.
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from all over the globe. right at your fingertips. ♪ this is how we work now ♪ a russian court has denied the pretrial release of "wall street journal" reporter evan gershkovich. a 31-year-old journalist was arrested on spying charges late last month here's nbc international correspondent keir simmons with more >> reporter: this morning, evan gershkovich in a russian court, the first images of him for weeks, standing in a glass box surrounded by masked security guards as the cameras were brought in wearing a shirt and jeans, armed folds. at one point talking to his legal team, appealing against charges of spying with vehement denials by the u.s gershkovich was an accredited
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journalist i love you very, very much, he told his family in an article"t jou journal" until we meet soon, he replied evan gershkovich is now held in a notorious moscow prison. the newspaper releasing an interview with his parents and sister >> it was just like crushing, totally crushing >> reporter: along with a video of the reporter with a child happy birthday to you ♪ >> reporter: growing up, playing sports and the cello >> i'm just in awe of him. >> reporter: his family says he loved russia and being a reporter i'm not losing hope, he wrote to them, in his three-page note home >> he felt like it was his duty to report. he loved russian people, you know >> >> he's so nice, yes >> he was really passionate about showing other sides of russia, the nuance and beauty of
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about having kids, you know the biggest hurdle can be child care it is expensive, oftentimes, costing more than an individual's annual paycheck this afternoon, president biden tried again to address that issue, signing an executive order with more than 50 directives encouraging child care agencies to make child care more affordable. what does that actually mean joining us is heather boucher. thank yous for being here. these are directives what are they going to do? >> well, so, this is a very exciting e.o., executive order, in many ways it is the most significant, most expansive executive order on care that the white house has ever done. it's a whole government approach, across agencies touching almost every new cabinet agency, the president is directing them to do things to lower the cost of care, make it more accessible and improve the quality of jobs for job workers.
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so for everything from working with the department of health and human services to improved wages for head start workers, to help introduce turnover and improve the quality of those jobs to working with the veterans administration to make it easier for veterans to choose the kind of care when they need care coming out of a hospital, or home care services, to help them choose that kind of care there's a variety of different steps. here again, it's over 50 and it's a whole of government approach because the president understand what is a pressing economic issue this is for families all across the country. and while his budget that he fought for in his build back better agenda, the fiscal year 2024 budget has over $750 billion worth of investments in child care, early education and home care services while we wait for congress to kt a, the president wanted to make sure that we're doing everything we could across the u.s. government to use taxpayer dollars effectively, to ensure the best access to care that
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then american families could get. >> heather, hold on one second i just got in my ear some breaking news what were you saying we are hearing -- sorry, heather, is this off-topic, we're hearing that the parties have resolved the issues, those words, in the dominion versus fox case i guess that means that the delay we were experiencing for opening statements meant they were negotiating a settlement. heather, i'm going to have to put you on hold for a second and go to "washington post" reporter aaron blake. aaron, what you can tell justice. >> we don't know a whole lot more now we were wondering if this were a possibility given the lengthy delay. of course, they were supposed to start the trial on monday and that really didn't happen. we just learned that the judge set this and we don't know the terms. we're waiting to see what happens. >> we also have paul butler, our legal analyst, former legal
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prosecutor, paul, people are waiting for a final verdict on this case, but again, you can settle up until the verdict is read what do you think of this? >> so, there's a huge amount of m money at stake and fox doesn't have an obvious defense. the judge is already upset with fox for not turning over information it should have to the other side the judge also in an earlier ruling, said there are no factual issues about whether the statements that fox put out were true he said, as a matter of fact, those were lies. the only thing the jury has to decide is whether fox knew they were lies when they broadcast them lots of evidence that they did so it makes sense that fox would settle, because, otherwise, it's going to get taken to the cleaners >> breaking news, the parties have resolved the case the fox news versus the dominion case our apologies to heather boushey and the white house for abrupt
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