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have we seen such an anticlimactic ending late today, dominion agreed to settle its defamation lawsuit against fox, but there's very little reason to believe fox will change its ways anytime soon >> also tonight, ralph yarl's aunt joins me. he's the missouri teen shot after approaching the wrong house. and now, criminal charges have been filed against the man accused of shooting him. and ron desantis is fought done with his absurd war with his state's top employer, disney, amid signs his presidential campaign is imploding before it even officially begins. we begin tonight -- we begin "the reidout" tonight with a common game show dilemma like on wheel of fortune if you can solve the puzzle, do you do so and take the money in front of you or spin the wheel for a chance to get more but potentially lose it all? today, dominion voting systems
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decided to take the money in front of them, settling their suit against fox on the first and last day of what was supposed to be a blockbuster trial. in the end, they opted to take less than half of the $1.6 billion they were seeking. >> the truth matters lies have consequences over two years ago, a torrent of lies swept dominion and election officials across america into an alternative universe of conspiracy theories causing grievous harm to dominion and the country. today represents a ringing endorsement for truth and for democracy. >> great win for democracy i don't know about that. because it's really not clear what if anything fox will actually have to admit to its captive audience
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in its response to the se sett settlement, the network says, quote, we acknowledge the court's rulings finding certain claims about dominion to be false. this settlement reflects fox's continued commitment to the highest journalistic standards that not a joke, they really said that. we're hopeful our decision to settle this allows the country to move forward from these issues come on. come on, that response is literally the equivalent of i'm sorry you feel that way. don't expect to hear any apology coming on air over at fox. >> part of the story that was told was also about the damage done to our democracy. on that front, is there a forthcoming apology or acknowledgment that the lies about dominion were broadcast knowingly and they were just that, lies >> well, nicolle, apology is about accountability, and we held them accountable today. we had two goals, accountability
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and we had justice for our client, for dominion we achieved both of them i think that the accountability is the important part of it and that's what we achieved. >> so not only does it appear fox has to do nothing more than sign over a smaller check to dominion than it might have, it also might have dodged an even bigger bullet because more importantly, they saved their stars from having to take the wince stand and answer questions about all those embarrassing texts and revelations that came out in the pretrial period the risk is fox's captive audience would catch wind of what their favorite fox stars actually think about their viewers and about donald trump and now they didn't believe any of the horse manure about the 2020 election that they were shoveling at the fox audience for more than two years. it also keeps 92-year-old fox corporation chairman rupert murdoch from having to testify, which is why not having to confirm all those texts and emails on the stand is definitely worth $787 million to fox. in fact, i'm sure it would have
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been worth even more than that had dominion held out longer, maybe even a cool billion. joining me outside the courthouse in delaware is katie phang, msnbc legal analyst and host of the katie phang show and jim rutenberg, writer at large for "the new york times. both were in the courtroom today. and joining me here in the stud joe is charles coleman jr., civil rights attorney, former brooklyn prosecutor and host of the charles coleman podcast. thank you for being here i want to go to katie and jim. jim, give us some of the color in the trial today, because it does seem that what i was reading, it was hot in the courtroom. and it was a short hearing >> well, i certainly have never been through anything like that. other legal eagles in the room hadn't been through anything like this, where literally the jury had been empanelled, sworn in, everyone is waiting in anticipation for this opening arguments, which were going to
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be, you know, both sides were saying they were going to be show stoppers, and literally, just as we're gathering for the first opening statement, there's a pause. the judge disappears the lawyers stay in the room, which was confusing. and this went on for hours until there was an announcement of a settlement >> katie, were you surprised at what the settlement was? they were originally asking for $1.6 billion, and as part of that, dominion was claiming the value of their company was something like $920 billion in damage that what they said the damage amount had been. they wind up settling for a lot less than that did that surprise you? >> well, no. listen, you go big or go home. especially when you're a plaintiff in a commercial litigation case, you want to make sure you're going to claim the maximum amount of damages as you can. you have to bring evidence to back it up at the end of the day, according to dominion's legal team, this amount of muchy not only makes their company whole but actually
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satisfies what they needed to accomplish in this incidence we have spoken previously, joy, about this idea of punitive damages. that was not going to be on the table when it came to a settlement that's something dominion was going to ask the jury to return to tack fox for their bad faith conduct. speaking of bad faith conduct, this morning we had the judge sign an order appointing a special master, one who had been involved earlier in the discovery process to look into all of the discovery misconduct that had been done by fox. in my opinion, that as well as i think a very strong jury in favor of dominion finally pushed fox to really come in good faith and settle this case >> let me ask you, does the special master now just go away? what happens with that >> so interesting lay, we would like to get some confirmation about this, but the judge can retain jurisdiction over what happens in this case we would like to get some confirmation from dominion whether or not this is something that's going to be pursued and whether or not the special master in the case will continue to investigate, because frankly,
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joy, that order was -- it had huge teeth to it it basically gave a special master the ability to conduct his own investigation, to do as many depositions as he wanted to do of whomever he thought was actually related to this misconduct that was committed by fox. and if it's not done, if it's not dead in the water because the case has now been settled then fox actually might have more and more disclosures that are going to come out than has already been out last point quickly before i go, we know there were several redactions in what was pushed out into the public, and that was publicly filed i was looking forward to seeing that when this trial transpired because i wanted to see what fox was continuing to hide at this juncture because the trial is not going to happen over here, we're not going to see what was behind the redactions >> i could see why they were willing to pay not to be seen. were you surprised by the settlement >> i wasn't. i knew it was going to happen. i just didn't know when and how much i'm surprised it took this long
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because dominion had such a strong hand. all of the discovery getting out to the public, everything we knew said to fox you do not want to try this case not necessarily for the money. the money is part of it, of course, but more so for the reputational damage in the field of media you're talking about a media network, a media conglomerate that basicallyis being accused of and then substantiated by the evidence of lying repeatedly, knowingly telling falsehoods and doing so in a way that undermines your credibility. i understood this is where it was coming to, but i didn't know when >> let's play what howard curts said fox has been avoiding talking about it at all. howard kurtz admitted that he did talk about it today let me play what he said >> i do think the statement i just read about acknowledging certain claims were wrong, this had to do with the idea that dominion voting machines and former president trump and his allies made this case on fox and
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elsewhere, were somehow stealing votes from donald trump and flipping them to joe biden that's obviously false those were conspiracy theories but the case would have revolved around whether fox had done due diligence, whether it was reckless, simply reporting as the network contend on an extremely newsworthy matter argued by the then former, then president of the united states himself. >> that's all the fox audience is going to get, whereas had there been a trial, it would have been a lot harder to shield tucker carlson on the stand, saying yeah, i said i hated donald trump with a passion and that he was a demonic force. >> there's a parallel we see between not only how fox news has operated in the space but also donald trump. the parallel is the control of narrative. when you're talking about discovery in open court and something that's public and publicly released, you lose control of that narrative and you don't have the ability to basically dictate what the public knows and finds out versus what they don't by settling, fox retains a
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certain control over that public narrative that they want that's their playbook, their strategy something that donald trump uses, something they use back and forth. so it's very consistent with the pattern of behavior we have seen they want to be able to control the narrative for their viewers so they can say, well, we have a little bit of control over how much is out there that's going to cause us reputational damage. >> katie, in the past, fox news has settled multiple cases before, lots of sexual harassment, racial harassment cases. they settled the british tabloid hacking, bill o'reilly sexual harassment suit, a case against ailes, sexual harassment you can go on and on had seth rich settlement too nothing has changed in their behavior after that. essentially, we haven't seen any more sexual harassment case but we have a new case coming up from another female reporter who says that she and the host she
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worked for were bullied and mistreated because they're women. it doesn't seem like a lot of change for, and the smartmatic suit where they're saying $2.7 million, the same thing was done to us. it seems fox news has successfully bought their way out of account nlt before and have done it again today >> that's no shocker because we have always talked about what type of judicial system exists and how it favors the rich to your point, smartmatic is knocking on the doors of the courthouse, we're in the infancy in terms of where we are in the litigation posture they won on appeal being able to keep in certain defendants the discovery from this dominion case is not exclusive to just the dominion case. you're going to have this road map created to be able to provide somebody like smartmatic the keys to the kingdom to say this is what you need to look for and what you're going to find i want to adjust expectations here they might be claiming more in damages but it was a smaller
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market share when it comes to this voting software we also have shareholder derivative lawsuits that are still being teed up. fox is going to spend more time in court, but will they now just settle to get out of it? >> that seems like the logical conclusion if they're going to settle this one and dominion is more of a known name i can't imagine a governor signing a deal with dominion voting systems with a lot of maga voters in their states. you could understand why they would seek damages smartmatic not as well known any reporting about settlement talks going on in advance with smartmatic that seems logical >> no news on settlement talks right now, but i think that fox has made itself clear, it does not want to go through a process like this again. i assume it's not going to want to go through it with smartmatic, so you know, i
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wouldn't be shocked if there was a settlement i'm not hearing there is any such thing under way right now, but you know, we didn't hear about this one until the jury was impanelled we'll see. >> they're going to pay their way out of trouble the way the super rich and big corporations roll. and they build it in as a cost of doing business. katie, jim, charles, thank you all. and up next, dominion's lead attorney justin nelson said today's settlement represents vindication and accountability he'ljol in me next we'll be right back. ♪ what is it about the first warm breeze of the season that makes you feel lighter than air? ♪ no matter where you are... when it crosses your path...
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. more now on today's nearly $800 million settlement agreement between fox and dominion moments before opening statements were set to begin joining me is lead attorney justin nelson. mr. nelson, thank you for being here i guess i'll ask you sort of the elephant in the room question. what would you say to those who are disappointed that dominion didn't go to trial and get the full vindication of making fox's lead anchors get on the stand and admit what they did to your company? >> well, all along, dominion has had two goals in this. which is number one, accountability, and number two, to try to make the harm that dominion has suffered, to try to have some recompence for that. we have succeeded i think wildly on both accounts on the accountability point, fox
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is paying north of three thirds of a billion dollars you have seen and the world has seeb the internal texts and emails, the mountains of texts and emails we think that really show the actual malice, the knowledge that these were all lies and that is really that accountability point we were after. and from a harm perspective, dominion and its employees have just suffered a tremendous, tremendous amount of harm. and today really was a day of vindication. and of course, it's a little bittersweet because of course, we would have liked to have seen the hosts take the stand and others, but at the end of the day, what we really cared about was that accountability and today we think we achieved it. >> i think i can agree with you, most people will agree with you on the second point. dominion was obviously harmed.
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it's hard to himagine a red stat governor doing business with dominion, but on the first point you made, here is my question. if you don't get an on-air apology, and if fox news doesn't correct what they said about dominion to their own viewers, they may never know any of this happened because remember, we're here talking to you on earth one. earth two is where fox news and its audience live. they don't listen to this, what we're saying they only hear what fox news anchors tell them. so do you feel that it would have been important for you to get in this settlement that fox news must tell their audience in their own words on their shows that they lied about dominion? >> well, we felt was really important was the accountability aspect of it i think whatever else happens, you can't hide from paying nearly $800 million. and having that in a public
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settlement and so the message that i think this case really has shown is that we will hold people accountable for lies and the civil litigation system can only do so much. what we have done is hold fox accountable, and we intend to do so for the other six lawsuits that we have we're not going to stop here we believe it is so, so, so important to hold people accountable for the lies and remember, this is the very first case across any of the cases about the 2020 election lies that is actually held somebody accountable that's why we think today is really a great day for the truth and a great day for trying to set the record straight and to help promote this idea that we can disagree on issues, but we must have these shared facts together >> has dominion received an apology privately or will it
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receive one publicly from fox and from news corp.? >> well, you saw their statement today, and again -- well, they acknowledged that it was false and they acknowledged the summary judgment order that was talking about it and so all we can control is what we can control. and from that perspective, what we think is we have taken this really to the point of showing what has happened, showing the world what happened behind the scenes getting to a jury, we picked a jury today right before it settled. and we got to a point where from dominion's perspective, and dominion and its employees, the financial accountability was also there, especially at the number that was over three quarters of a billion dollars. >> justin nelson, thank you for being here much appreciated let's bring in angela, president of media matters, and tim
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o'brien, msnbc political analyst and senior executive editor of bloomberg opinion and a veteran of being involved in very rakish lawsuits with donald trump what do you make of the settlement and do you agree with what mr. nelson just said about this being accountability? >> it's a form of accountability if you're a lawyer the question is where do americans go to get their constitution back and to get their faith in elections being cleanly run back that's still hanging out there i don't think any of this is going to dissuade fox from doing what it's always done, which has peddled disinformation, propaganda, and lies as a business model, as a way of connecting itself to its audience it's been doing that for a long time you know, after it settled the seth rich case, fox apologized they stopped using his name on air. but they kept intimating as tucker carlson kept doing, kept intimating there was a conspiracy behind his death. so they backed away from the
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substance of things that would land them in a defamation suit, but they didn't back away from lying. and they still are able to do what they did in the past, which is undermine people's faith in the fact pattern, undermine people's faith in elections, and ultimately serve this larger problem that they have helped foist upon the american public >> angelo, let me read what you said about this lawsuit. you said, the stain this leaves on fox can't be wiped out with money. the network has been completely exposed as a partisan propaganda outlet that's willing to do anything for profit and power. i might add to the end of your statement, to the people on earth one. because it does appear that in their own world that they have created, where their captive audience tells them what to do and tells them what they want them to say and they simply say it even if it's bananas, they're going to still be able to say whatever they want as long as they don't say the word dominion >> yes i think that's right to your point y can back that
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up we looked at the first two months of the year, and fox news attacked elections more than 50 times. almost half the time 50 times where they said it was stolen, the democrats are going to steal it in 2024 you can't trust it to your point, the only thing they didn't do is say dominion but they don't need to anymore, because that narrative is there, so they can just echo it you're right, i think we call it a bubble for a reason. and what fox didn't want to do here was burst that bubble i mean, that's where the reckoning comes in because they need that audience to be incredibly fervent so they can not just exert political power but also then leverage that audience for profit as well, for these cable contract renewals which are happening right now, literally this month, they're renegotiating three of their major cable contracts which is the major driver of their revenue. that's the dirty secret in all of this, that fox is, and rupert murdoch said it in his
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deposition, fox was the only entity in the country that could correct the election lies that donald trump's people believe. they talked about this on january 5th. i think to justin's point earlier, there's a lot of good information that comes out i don't want to call it accountability, but it's up to all of us whether there will be accountability but the settlement is important. they are the only ones who could burst fox's bubble, and today they decided paying $780 million was easier than bursting the bubble >> easier than putting tucker carlson on the stand the reality is their business model is to continue to lie about democracy, to stoke hate and even violence rage we are seeing january 6th defendants say they were radicalized by fox news. you're seeing them constantly touting black lives matter as some evil entity, and then you have people who think they ought to shoot black lives matter people or shoot at them. a young black man go to a door, and someone, we don't know what he watches on tv, but it
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wouldn't shock me if they were watching a lot of black people are violent thugs and if one comes to my door, i'll kill him. you combine a lot of guns and people being radicalized by a television network, there is no incentive for them to stop doing it if tay don't do it, newsmax is out there, oan is out there, you saw just the threat of those networks rising caused them to dig deeper and double down on the big lie. >> you know, the foundational moment of this episode is the night of the 2020 election, when fox calls it for arizona, the trump family freaks out. they call fox. they want it rolled back fox begins losing viewership to other smaller conservative networks it ended up getting that viewership back, but the real roots of this go back to roger ailes. this network is doing what it was built to do. >> yes >> which is to take on american institutions of various stripes and find problems with every single one of them, and say that they're all in the service of the left or the radical left or
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liberals, and they're out to do d damage and take your freedom away this just reached its logical conclusion on january 6th, which is why every anchor on that network jumped aboard. and i think if this had gone to court, the murdochs would have been confronted with having to throw some of these people overboard. because the ultimate goal would have been to protect rupert murdoch. that was why fox was so eager to split fox corp off fox news as a defendant and why they didn't want rupert murdoch to go on the stand. at the end of the day. it's rupert murdoch who's going to have to make decisions in the wake of this that i don't think he's going to make, which is to rein all this stuff in >> there's no business incentive to do this angelo, do you expect as i do them to just go right back to business and build in this $787 million as a cost of doing business the way they have with the sexual harassment suits. >> think it's worst. fox news is going to burn
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brighter and hotter because they don't have a choice. they have to shore up their audience, feed them the rarest of meat. they have been walking this fine line for a while for the first time ever, they have their footing back. they're going to burn brighter and hotter we need to be extra careful about that >> absolutely. up next on "the reidout," an 84-year-old man accused of shooting teenager ralph yarl who showed up at the wrong address to pick up his little brothers has turned himself into police in mississippi ralph's aunt and family attorney ben crump join me next before your asthma got in the way? get back to the things you love... with fasenra. fasenra is an add-on treatment for eosinophilic asthma. having too many eosinophils, a type of white blood cell, can cause inflammation and asthma symptoms. fasenra is designed to target and remove eosinophils and helps prevent asthma attacks. fasenra is 1 dose every 8 weeks. fasenra can help patients to breathe better.
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we're learning new details about the horrific shooting in missouri of a black teenager just for ringing the doorbell at the wrong house while going to pick up his younger brothers the alleged shooter, 84-year-old andrew lester, is now in police custody, facing two felony charges for assault in the first degree, and armed criminal action the county prosecutor said there was a racial component to the shooting but dud not elaborate the incident happened last thursday when lester allegedly fired at 16-year-old ralph yarl through a locked glass door, shooting him twice and telling him, quote, don't come back around here. he claimed the teen was attempting to break in lester was briefly taken into custody friday but released hours later without being immediately charged. yarl's family attorney says that
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after being shot, despite bleeding from a head wound, the teen managed to run, banging on the doors of at least three neighbors begging for help at the third home, a neighbor told yarl to lie on the ground and put his hands in the air as if he was the perpetrator, not the victim ralph yarl complied and then he passed out he was eventually taken to the hospital ralph yarl is fortunately alive. he is now recovering at home, being cared for by his mom who luckily is a nurse last night, he spoke on the phone with president biden, who reaffirmed his commitment to fight gun violence and invited him to the white house while today, students and faculty from his high school walked out in support of their class mate, chanting, we love you, ralph, and justice for ralph. joining me now is faith sp spoonmore, ralph's aunt, and ben crump, attorney for the family
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i have seen your and reposted your interviews on social media and on telephone you are such an incredible advocate for your adorable, adorable nephew. please tell us about him, what is he like >> oh, my gosh can we just take a second and just acknowledge how much love he's receiving because that is just beautiful like, seeing him school, that totally melted his heart today i can't even speak okay ralph. ralph is doing really well he's loving the love that he's getting from everyone. he is, of course, he's not back to ralph but he's alive, and he's healthy. he's just -- yeah. it's overwhelming. it's overwhelming. >> i have to also ask how his little brothers are doing, his little twin brothers he went to go pick up this is a family trauma.
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how are they doing >> they are very happy to still have ralph they really are. i remember when i went to pick them up from the hospital after the incident, there was a lot of, but auntie faith, he went for us kind of thing where they were internalizing it a lot. and i just reassured them, it is not because of you, sweetie. this did not happen because he went to pick you up. it happened because of a very bad person it had nothing to do with you. >> absolutely. 100% what was it like for ralph to talk to the president? >> oh, he loved every minute of it he is one of those people who is like, no matter what is going on, he's always like, what is the big deal you know, he's so humble, and when he was on the phone, he's like, it's the president i'm like, yeah it is the president. so it was just like, it took him back but it's hard to explain him because he was so chill about it
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he laughed at his jokes. yeah they had a great conversation. >> we love having you, but i also want to play mama this is cleo, i'm going to play what she had to say about her wonderful boy and how he's doing. >> yesterday, i talked to his pediatrician, and she said, so, the ct said that there's just minimal fragments of the bullet in his brain and i said, yes. and she's like, how? and i said, i don't know how and she's like, bless god. and that's all i can say because if she doesn't understand how, i don't understand how >> god that's how you know, ben crump, my friend, my brother we come together to do this far too often, but in this case,
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thank god, this young boy is alive. talk to us about this neighborhood, because as infuriating as the gunshot was, the neighbor who put this boy on the ground as if he was a criminal rather than helping a child, what is going on, and what happened to the immediate arrest we were supposed to see after so many incidents like this why did it take so long for that man to be arrested >> you know, joy, we all know it, it's two americas. and when it comes to justice, when black people get shot or brutalized and thank god for his aunt faith, who went on social media and started making the case, because they meant to sweep this under the rug, and people i follow faithfully, and i want to say publicly to her, everybody should have a prayer and fighter like you, aunt faith, to make
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that they never marginalize our children, and i mean, he was marginalized by the shooter. he's marginalized by the neighbor who makes him put his hands out even though he's been shot twice and it goes to this scourge of good violence where people shoot first and ask questions later. what are we coming to in america when young people hit the wrong doorbell and you're profiling and shoot them it happened in florida it's happening far too often, joy. we have to love our children versus profiling our children. >> yeah, who goes to the door with a gun in their hand because you don't recognize who is there? who does that? what kind of a person does that? why no hate crimes charge and do you expect a hate crimes charge, ben? >> obviously, he talked to the president. don't know if the department of justice will look at it or not
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but i know based on missouri law, they felt that these were the highest charges they could give him we don't know what those racial components are yet that the prosecutor talked about. they keep saying there was a racial aspect to it. well, we need to know that and then we'll answer whether there should be hate crime charges brought. >> faith, did the police explain to you what they meant by racial component? that seems like a very murky thing to say when this is a young black child and a white shooter. yeah, there's a racial component. were they more specific with the family >> no. they were not. we had a meeting today, and it was still just as blurry yeah they attempted to explain it, but it was just as muddy so no. >> well, ms. faith, i agree. everybody should have a praying, fighting auntie like you you have been a warrior for your nephew you are how i know about this case, because i actually think i
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saw it on ben's social media but i saw you, sister. so god bless you, your family, please tell mama that we love this young man if he's ever in new york, we want him to come to 30 rock and take a tour or if he's in d.c., he can do it there what a great kid i have heard so much about him from you he's smart, he's wonderful, and he's going to be all right god bless all of you thank you. >> yes, he is. thank you. >> thank you so much >> all right, faith spoonmore and ben crump. thank you both up next, ron desantis kicks his war on disney into overdrive in a feud that let's face it, nobody cares about nobody back in a second with less asthma. and can help you breathe better in as little as 2 weeks. dupixent is an add-on treatment for specific types of moderate-to-severe asthma that's not for sudden breathing problems. dupixent can cause allergic reactions that can be severe. get help right away if you have rash, chest pain, worsening shortness of breath, tingling or numbness in your limbs. tell your doctor about new or worsening
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detect this: i stay undetectable with fewer medicines. ask your doctor about switching to dovato. florida governor ron desantis was in washington, d.c. today trying to stop the bleeding on what is left of his unofficial presidential campaign which is going so well he's ripping up his fight with the walt disney company over their criticism of his don't say gay law. now ron is threatening new r retri retribution. >> maybe trying to do more amusement parks. someone even said maybe you need a new state prison who knows? >> musing about building a prison next to your state's largest employer for daring to criticize your bigotry is exactly what you do if you're trying to appeal to the tiniest sliver of right wing voters and no one else. as for disney, the company announced a first of its kind
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lgbtq event at disney land in opposite day governor gavin newsom's california in june. but in his quest to run the most right-wing fascist primary campaign ever, desantis is throwing all the right wing pudding at the wall with all three eaten fingers to see what sticks his new immigration legislation is so draconian, miami's catholic archbishop slammed him for trying to criminalize empathy, and desantis couldn't stay silent on the fox fever dream battle against bud light he's vowing to never again drink the too woke beer. he's actually running overboard as he waits to jump into the race for no reason rolling stone reports that his mega donor meltdown is growing in private, welty donors asking what the f is wrong with ron, while he was on his publicity tour, while ft. lauderdale was under water from flooding last wyche. as for the wildly unpopular six-week abortion ban that he pushed, the one that required
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rape and incest victims to show proof to get an exception, he certainly knows that's a big political loser since he quietly signed it into law last week in the dead of night and didn't mention it in a speech the following day. one top republican donor told the financial times he is halting plans to donate to desantis because of his extreme positions on book banning and abortion when it comes to fighting his extremism, we'll talk to one person who knows how to take the fight directly to him. so much so that she even went to jail for protesting the abortion bill florida democratic party chair nicky fried joins amefter the break.
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dictator in waiting rhonda scent this escalated his war o the wall disney company, the kickstart unannounced 2024 presidential campaign. it's not going well. his palm beach constituent a main rival donald trump wa dunking on him on social media are getting absolutely destroyed by disney an pointing out the whole thing i unnecessary stunt. it's a dumpster fire whe donald trump is a voice of reason no longer in hiding, signing midnight abortion bills, tha desantis was in washington casey, today, begging florid congressional -- to please pick me over the former president pick me, pick me, pick me. joining me now is nikki fried, chair of the florida democrati party. nikki fried beyond the members
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of the delegation not to endorse donald trump, he's now got a face there richie richie getting off the train. former goldman sachs ceo tweeted, does this man have th temperament to be president? disney is lucky he does no have the launch codes. financial times, tougher outlook in donor thoma petrified has soured on hi because of his social issues stance on book banning he says i put myself on hold because of his stance on abortion and book bannin myself in a bunch of friends are holding our powder dry what's happening to poor ron >> he's unraveling he's completely unraveled. everything from bein humiliated with disney outmaneuvered. now he is seeing members of hi own congressional delegation o florida not getting his back there it was two more toda even after the d.c. trip tha have endorsed of the pas president. he is throwing temper tantrums he's got nowhere else to go. he felt like he had to go so far right in order to get to this maga base and now he' gone even further than that.
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now he's no longer electable t become president i think that's what is happening. he's throwing temper tantrums, he's completely unraveling he is just saying things tha are just bizarre here we are. >> even his superfan, byro donalds, whose claim to fame was going to be speaker fo some reason, was being a fan o him. he's like, i'm with donald trump. if you don't - why not endorse -- the real version i want to talk about what' happening to your state. you got arrested protesting th six-week abortion ban. desantis was pretty reticent about going to six weeks he signed at the 15-week ban with a lot of fanfare. this when he signed at night and do you already see the backlash building abou abortion in florida? >> yes, everywhere i go. the reality is 75% o floridians didn't want this. we already just literally last year had the 15-week abortio ban. it is still going through th courts it is sitting in front of th supreme court. and this is extreme. people do not want this. and he knows it.
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i mean, he did this in the middle of the night. worse is that most people don' know is that when he got don he flew his helicopter over th area where a lot of us hav been sleeping, camping out protesting this. he flew it over there thre times, almost kind of like a - to the people that have been protesting this. we are seeing the backlash even the most staunc republicans are saying that is too much he is going too far. he has got to be stopped >> florida is known mostly for disney and beaches and vacations, spring rake tight vacations. how does florida move forwar as a tourism friendly state if abortion is banned, people are afraid, i know friends that ar like, my kids are not going to college there. god forbid if they are raped if something happens, you have to prove you were raped to the sufficiency of ron desantis to get an abortion. now it's an anti-abortio state. disney is under fire how is it different tonale from mississippi
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i don't know how it remain florida. >> that's part of the issu have been talking about. i'm sure you all saw that he made a comment earlier thi week, or the latter part o last week, saying there was no florida pride. so he became governor. that is again the weirdest thing i can ever think of governor saying, that people o our state have had no pride. here's the deal. it's only been more of a libertarian state, people come to the beaches, people hang ou in key west and, they go to -- they just do their thing what he is doing is a shock to the culture of our state we are not part of the south the northern part of our state has always been deemed as kind of more a southern mentality by the central and south par of our state have not. what he is doing is he is no only shifting the culture of our state but doing it in such an extreme manner that it' going to have a backlash it's a backlash on him he will not be able to succeed
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in all of these proposals if the republican legislature would've stood up to him, woul have done something to tell hi that this is not good enough they all just completely hav bowed out and are kissing th ring to the expense of the people of the state. >> i'm not sure internationa visitors will be excited about the idea of coming to a stat that is unleashed unlicensed handguns everywhere. guns everywhere, abortion is banned, and he is fighting wit a disney but he already got beat by the disney princess. harry and meghan - controls the fate of disney now, ron. that has to hurt a spear the most very quickly, how is for lauderdale doing, because he did not pay tension to the flooding there either. >> i was here today. unfortunately, iran has no been down here the county is strong, everybod is going to be okay. of course, we've got propert insurance disaster that's been in the making and it's going t make it worse. >> thank you very much that is tonight's read out all in with chris hayes starts now. >>
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