time that's why math in thi process. anytime i try to think too forward, you know, it gets cloudy so i'm riding the rollercoaste of emotions, taking one day at a time interest in god i'm walking by faith my perspective has always been even more the situation it was a blessing even just to make i to the nfl, but to make it out of my situation with almost no a scratch on me and i have all the blessings coming my way, i has just been one of those things where you, i'm just trying to figure out the bes way to repay it, you know what i mean and i have been beatin statistics my whole life, an some people might say that coming back to playing might not be the best option but that's their opinion, an like i said, i have been beating statistics my whol life, so i like my chances here >> we do to, damar, and

we're honored to have you take us off the air tonight and on that note, i wish you all a very good and safe night from all of our colleagues across the networks of nbc news, thanks for staying up late i will see you at the end of tomorrow >> this was the line to ge into the delaware courthouse with fox news was set to go on trial this morning the company was accused of defamation by the dominion voting systems corporation even the sheer number of lawyers showing up for thi trial today was impressive both the top side in the dominion, side looks like they had enough lawyers to form a soccer team in suits behind the courtroom a's mysterious walkway thing presumably for allowing jurors and high-profile witnesses t enter and exit the courtroom without being spotted, because there were going to be a lot o high-profile witnesses, an inside the court the lawyers

and spectators were reportedly packed in like sardines. demean's legal team submitte more than 7000 exhibits, including videos and transcripts and emails and texts of fox employees and hosts. fox submitted more than 5000 o its own exhibits, includin clips from multiple episodes o the simpsons that portraye homer simpson voting one of which, quite literally, shows the voting machine switching homers vote. fox submitted that is some for of evidence to bolster its case no comment the expectation was that thi trial would last around si weeks and had the potential to air tons of fox news's dirty laundry and then it will examine the full extent of foxes promotion of the big lie so the whole world was watchin to see what the implications would be for the future of fox news, and really, the future o news as a whole. but before opening arguments could even begin, the whol thing was over

>> chip roy, and thomas massie >> sorry to do that to you we're just learning the fo have indeed settled. >> how did we spell it out >> well, it was a dramatic ending to what everyone though was going to be one of those cover trials of the century, neil it was a two-hour behind close doors meeting between judg eric davis and lawyers are bot sides. speculation of what was going. on the jury had already been selected and seated. we thought we were going t open arguments but is it turned out, the tw parties were discussing th settlement we do have a statement from fox, neil we are pleased to have reached a statement with dominio voting systems we acknowledge the court rulings finding certain claims about dominion to be false the settlement reflects foxe continued commitment to th highest journalistic standards >> the highest journalisti standards. the case is now. over fox news and dominion settled out of court today for an eye-popping seven, $787.5

million. which, yes, it is less than th 1.6 billion dollars that dominion had sought a trial, but it is still a gargantuan sum of money speaking outside the courthous afterwards, dominion's lawyers and settlement was proof tha the truth matters and that lie have consequences. demi's ceo says that is part o the settlement, fox admitted i told lies. but if you read the fox news statement carefully, you would not see the word lie, lying, o liars anywhere in. it quote, we acknowledge the courts rulings finding certain claims about dominion to b false. and now south continues, thi settlement reflects foxe continued commitment to th highest journalistic standards as far as we know, nothing i the settlement appears to forc fox news to make any on ai acknowledgment about what they said about dominion beyond their media reporter reading that statement this afternoon. so what does this mean for fox

news and for a country tha continues to grapple with th fallout from a campaign of misinformation about the 202 election joining us now is davi folkenflik, media corresponden for npr and author o murdaugh's world, the last o the old media empire david was inside the courtroom for today's proceedings. good to have you here, david i'm sorry, you traveled to delaware for nothing to happen but i'm glad you are there for the purposes of this show. first, if you could give me sense about the reaction in th courtroom when this happened a lot of people were waiting for one of the mos high-profile media trials of this century and how was the news about the settlement taken >> let me give you a littl picture of what it was lik inside the courtroom it was stifling. there were about 200 people, i their that's what the courtroo holds, mostly lawyers an journalists, and a small cluster of attorneys who had come in from the delaware lega aid society, people wh represented the indigent peopl who can't afford their own

lawyers. they hadn't seen defamatio court before, and they wante to see this one, which was onc in a generation case it wa about to play out. the judge, eric em davis of th delaware supreme court, ha really manage this case to a fairly well. when he went out on brakes and said he'd be back at 11:35, he was back 11:35 when he said lunch break would be over at 1 pm, it would be done, he would be at the bench by 12:59 in this case, 2 pm, folks were supposed to come back from lunch, and it went on, and i went further, and it was a hour i noticed at 3:00 it was beyon an hour. and suddenly you began to sens something real was happening it wasn't a minor glitch i terms of an alternate juro something like that. i've been speaking to a senior fox corporation executive in the courtroom. he was trying to me, we were exchanging friendly sides, h looked down and said oh gosh i've got to go at that point i said, there's settlement, it's about t happen >> okay, so you had a spidey

sense and also good intel from inside the courtroom, but do you have a sense of how, i mean, it feels like the admission of guilt here is the price tag of this settlement. and i wonder to what degree yo as a media reporter can surmis the impact that will hav inside effects in terms of the news gathering culture, or foxes culture at the network and whether or not this change the way business is done >> i think the way to thin about this is that there is three part concession here b fox. none of which may be fully satisfying to people who fel that the wrong wise profound and needed to be marked forward, not just for the moment for th history. but nonetheless, you have foxe acknowledgment that the cour had ruled that false statement were made. that was just a fact the judge did a lot of the wor of dominion before it by sayin these were false statements an these were defamatory, and the only question really left fo the jury, was should fox b

held culpable for that secondly, though, fox having acknowledge that fact as spartan and as austere as that acknowledgment was, good fox settling for this enormous figure certainly rupert loughli murdoch can afford, that's because of the riches that fox news generates every financial quarter, but it's a huge amoun of money that any fortune 50 company would have t acknowledge a significant. but it's also that the figur was acknowledged publicly. so dominion can point to bot the statement in the size of this settlement, which clearly had to be acknowledged publicl as part of the settlement an say we were vindicated, we wer right, something wrong happened, fox had to pay in the high nin figures, it doesn't do that fo charity. it's during that furnaces taci -y, and possibly bigge defamation so what does that mean in term of fox we'll gonna have to watch an see. fox did, as you presented quit

rightly, acknowledge the statement, as a steers it, was to its audience, so we will at least be aware of it in that limited way. i think fox will probably have lawyers sitting on their soldiers for some time to make sure that false and defamatory statements of fact are not presented knowingly to the public on their airwaves on the other hand, i do no expect the tone to change. i don't expect there to be any dearth of red meat i don't expect to be any pullback on the idea o culturally conservativ grievances presented to th public, or the notion that former president donald trum was treated unfairly by th deep state, by the mainstrea media and other elements fro fox, because that clearly th business model that has worked so well for fox in recent years, and they see no reason o desire to retreat from that. in fact, that headlong pursuit of that is what got fox in thi trouble in the first place this remedy will not prevent them from doing that it will prevent them from bein so specific.

so we need to see, maybe, could be, wrong a wholesal changing of the guard at fox over the next 6 to 18 months and maybe you'll see a difference in tone but i think that tone will b fairly consistent as the years progressed >> it's hard to imagine fo giving up the mantle of th great cultural grievance network, especially given th fact that tucker carlson was airing and jan six was a inside job special, as thi dominion lawsuit was unfolding it does make you wonder why, i fox and ones has a sem cavalier attitude towards this and apparently can afford to settle, why they waited this long it seems like a grossman calculation in terms of th cultural impact of the discovery phase of thi investigation. do you have any insight into that >> as you can imagine, i hav been in touch with folks o both sides over the months, an my sense, from the bod language, and the insights tha had been offered, not just i

recent days but over the periods, fox would've been happy to settle. fox would have been happy. fox rightly was fearing rupert murdoch, the 92-year-old founder of fox news, appearing in the witness stand in th next day or two, to be questioned quite tough lay under oath, in front of th public, rather than in a deposition setting additionally, you would've had some of these top names, including tucker carlson, john hannity, testifying about what they knew and didn't, what the believed and didn't, whether they knew what they were presenting to their millions o viewers were not only untrue but to be lies in the moment those are tough, tough thing to have to address fully but dominion wasn't interested in settling this case until it had on the record a rather fulsome and complete set o facts, not all that we would'v received had the trial gon forward, but nonetheless layin

out for the public and for the nation the degree to which i was cynicism cynicism and th fear of losing the audienc that was driving fox, fox' decision, not just o journalistic imperative that happened to be mistaken. so dominion accomplished bot of its aims, in a sense. it wanted vindication and wanted there to be a publi record ofwent went awry, and looking under the rock and seeing how fox acted in this time of crisis to a great degree, dominio achieve that, even though it didn't get all that it was seeking. so fox news wanted to pay to make this go away. the murdaugh's have a record o rushing such things off. they can afford such great the greatest litigators in the country, have hired them again and again, winston and stron this time, one of the most feared corporate litigators in the eyed states. but they were happy, ultimately, to pay, and pay more tha they've ever paid in a singl settlement, to stop th bleeding, to stop th revelations, and to stop the intentions of news

organizations, yours and min and many others, from focusing on fox and how they behaved an they're knowing presentation o false facts to the millions of viewers. >> david folkenflik, npr's media correspondent, who was inside the room today. david, thank you for your time great to see joining us now is a man who ha spent several of the past year crisscrossing the country an speaking to conservative voters, many of them very likely fox news viewers the daily shows jordan clever, who is taking over the reigns, the guest host of the dail show this week, wow indeed jordan, it is great to hav you. thank you for joining me a this track's desk. >> thanks for having me. >> so, i guess i would love to know, as someone who has bee in the trenches and understand what is erupting in the center of this country, the schis that seems to be breaking apar these you united states, whe it comes to fox and it troubles this is not something you hear a lot about on fo news

we played that tape and it's the fox media reporter howar kurds mentioned, it and it's gone it begs the, question if the tree falls in the forest and howard kurds makes mention, di anyone hear? at >> the age old adage. >> but in terms of the folks you have talked to, in and i around conservative gatherings is it really as extreme as i it is not covered exhaustively and with fury and passion in conservative media, it doesn't exist in the outside world is that the sense that you got >> in a nutshell, yes. i mean, as far as this dominio case, first of all, i'm not person convinced rud giuliani's not gonna have press conference tomorro saying we're not gonna win we're still gonna win this thing. >> [laughter there's always tha alternative. >> definitely in this world. and you see a full-throate exhaust acknowledgment from fo news i don't think that's gonna resonate with a lot of peopl are dying to it's no secret we are within these bubbles. quite frankly, over the last

year, the folks that i talke to out on the road have move on from fox news they already got the result. they did not like from fox news mild distrust of donald trum not winning the election cos caused so many people to mov over to news that was more comforter covering to. that newsmax and you see something like thi like, will there be a reckoning, will there be an understanding and quite frankly, what ther is is a go-to for many peopl just to find the narrative tha works for them >> that works for. them and it sounds like from the evidence a discovery tha we got, the regal piercing fea on the part of fox new executives that they wer losing their audience, that if they didn't give them the good news they wanted, callin arizona for biden, being the first to do that was a rea problem for them that was not misplaced fear. in fact, the audience wa saying, i'm truly channe because it don't like what i'm hearing. >> do you get yeah >> did you get the sense the

people that used to be fox inherent's are now watching oa or newsmax, or wherever they'r getting their news from, did they realize to get looking fo comfort? or do they think that it's a issue of truth or is it both? >> i don't know if they full realize it's comfort that they seek i think there is a misunderstanding of what the watch on fox i think seeing this as news, especially seeing the late hour not as entertainment bu as news, is a misinformation gap that has crumbling so many parts of this country righ now. i think more often than not, not to bring everything back t donald trump, but gosh darn, it's been due to minutes, we need to get it back there. he infected the brains of so many folks of distrust the media, it's the enemy of the people he was the number one guy, the most famous person this planet has ever seen, the media, an and we the people. and now medias telling you something you don't. like cool, i don't need to trust them i have been given permission b the most powerful man on the earth to say that i don't need

to trust it. so i don't see these peopl reckoning with it saying i probably should know, they've been give permission not to. and why? not if you trust that person the person who we have agree to put in a position of power. if that person tells you don't believe the things you hear, trust me over here, then you get a january six. you get moments of find someon else i think distrust is actually healthy, in a working society. misplaced distressed i dangerous. >> it's really a profound thin to pro focus on, that trum gave people a permission sli to only do the things they wanted to, say the things he wanted to, believe the thing that made them feel good without explicitly saying that it was kind of like a hall pas for only doing the stuff tha feels good to you. everyone else be dammed. >> he consistently lower that. bauer bar. we might first interaction wit trump followers was around the obama birtherism conspiracy. it was embarrassing to talk on

camera about you wouldn't talk about that and light company. after don trump made that thin something you could say on tv, folks were more than happy t share with me. now i don't think he implanted that idea lot of people's heads, but he lowered the bar of what effects is acceptable there. in our culture, if our tv, i our entertainment puts this gu on a pedestal he can say this, why can somebody else that has had an effect on all things, especially this. >> you mentioned that yo started doing this work before trump was elected. and the latter half of the obama presidency, i remember being acutely aware of the way in which the well was bein poisoned slowly, or th temperature on the frog in the pot was increasing and then it reaches just a crescendo, an inflection point with the election of trump and i guess i wonder, is there anything that would suggest to you that the temperature can once again be turned down? because i look at the road ahead. trump is running for president again, 2024 is going to be a knife fight in a phone booth

and the republican primary and the potential criminal indictment of the former president, the current one for the manhattan d.a., but yo have other investigations. all of this lends itself to very combustible environment and i wonder, how do we prepar for that as news people, as citizens? or is it a foregone conclusion that the whole country is no gonna believe what's happening in the real world? >> it's not a foregone conclusion our leaders can lead and i think spines on the right ca do a lot of good >> my question would be, i they're giving up on fox news, the folks you're talking, to them what would it matter if ted cruz came out one day an said, you know what, this ha all been a lie what would it matter if mike pence went out and said in his testimony to the grand jury, this guy totally incited a insurrection what does any of it matter i they'll give up on the ver people who are telling them th news about these come to jesus

moments? >> i think we crave teachers t give us direction. so i don't think anyone want to listen to ted cruz. but frankly ted cruz and 100 o his buddies are in a positio of power and they suddenly mad on donald trump the outsider i that way, i think you need a majority of a party to make choice bit outside of what donald trump is. there are no spines on tha side that give anybody any indication that what we se here is gonna have any negativ impact on this country or what has to happen is embarrassment with donal trump. i talked to adam kinzinger, an what you told me he though could happen, i don't know if can say this entendre, but o trump needs to essentially poo his pants. it sounds like a joke, but it' embarrassing to the point -- >> humiliation >> complete humiliation. you saw that with the midterms of don trump might not be winner well, i built my identit around a man who i see is winner through and through. and everybody tells, me in m community, that he's a winner. oh, he lost in the midterms, well, that's something they ca probably work around you see the hesitation they open up the door fo

desantis what you need is humiliation around on trump. it's not going to be a revelation of what's happening this past. he's already given us plenty o things plenty of things for. that would assume really humiliating is a lot of people 's finds who say too much, brother, we're moving on t something else that would take change the temperature. >> it would have to be a lot o people,. though >> it would have to be groundswell of conservativ saying you're a loser. >> sure, but those guys wh claim patriotism and have thos flag pins with a loo themselves in the mirror, look at that flag pan and say i car about this country, growers by until this man what is happening and maybe people wil listen to you. >> do you think, i wonder if the loser part of it, th humiliation part of it reall cuts to the core core of the psyche of the folks who want t believe in trump, who at one point listen to fox news and maybe airless and even mor conservative fair these days the part of this central promise of that kind o ideology and media diet is the belief, that it offers you a

way to feel good about yoursel and that it makes you feel bigger and better than everyon else and the minute you are not surrounded by winners, hearing the dye suggesting the problem of another winner, the minut you start turning it out >> 100 percent i'm trying to people rallies who are wearing capes. they feel like superman. we should be wearing capes it feels so good to wear capes and i get that it's a magic tricky pulled we're not talking politics wit don trump. people identify with tim they identify with the mag movement you can have a conversatio with people about things they. what i want this, we want this can we meet the middle summer. you can't have conversations the people about who they are. because that unchangeable. you are protective of that the maga movement, this is who people are and that's a really difficul place. we're not trying to find som middle ground about what you want what i'm trying to do i change who you see as yourself

so that takes a big movement spines help. so i'm hoping maybe that's the direction. >> you can see upon spine in a mirror when you're looking a it to find out who you are i don't even know what i mean. >> as a metaphor there as soon as you said it i'm lik now you're gonna see your body before, and it's still me >> you see your face before your spine this is why i am not guest hosting the daily show thi week >> still, i'm getting used to. it >> where you here how can you be here >> i am thirsty for television i get four days out of the daily show >> we are so thankful that you are thirsty. please come back, and drin from this well anytime you would like >> senior table anytime. thank. you >> many metaphors. this week's guest host for a thing called the daily show, jordan klepper, good to se you. coming up, the missour prosecutor of a shooter of ralph yarl, -- plus a new filing from fulto county d.a. fani willis hint that some of georgia's fak

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met right up there in th senate chambers. they are official. they are certified, and i vote for joe biden. but georgia republicans, the met at exactly the same time right behind those close doors. they are not official, not

certify, they still met. they chose donald trump. >> and their actions did not g unnoticed. those 16 georgia republicans who crossed played as trum electors, they were in for a last summer that they were targets in a probe district attorney fani willi has been largely focused o donald trump and his efforts t subvert the 2020 election, i today we learned some of those fake electors have been offere immunity although not all of them apparently knew that today, miss willis filed a motion seeking to disqualify a attorney named kimberly burrow double kimberly burrows to broker the represents ten of the fake electors in this case, which i a lot of fake electors t represent. we learned in the final th judge ordered her to have conversation with her client about a potential immunity dea last year nda willis's office claim that contrary to what was said in court, mr. bro and here's her counsel, holly pierson apparently didn't share that

information with at least some of those ten fake electors and in a statement was release within the past hour mis debreau called the d.a.' motion baseless, and said have ethically and professionally represented m clients at all times and i wil continue to do so. so there remains a very bi question about what kind o council myths debrow was offering her clients and then there is this the filing also claims that in recent meetings with mis willis's office, some of the fake electors accused anothe fake elector, one of the clients of myths debrow, the that elector of further crimes what those further crimes are, we do not know something maybe beyond wha miss willis has investigated thus far, which is, well, no you have my attention. and the dea says that assertio creates a conflict of interest some clients, who may be cooperating with the d.a.' office, or levying charges against another client who i presumably not cooperating wit the d.a.'s office.

and all of them are bein represented by kimberly burrow debrow you could see how that could create issues if those defendants all have the same lawyer the d.a.'s office says tha debrow's representativ representation of thos electors is a impractical an unethical mitt and by the way kimberly burrow debrow is apparently being pai by the georgia republica party. there are reports that she received over $200,000 from th state gop. joining us now is michael moore, former u.s. attorney for the n district of georgia. michael, thanks for being here it's always good to see you. i wonder if you are readin this the same way, some of these fake electors may be cooperating with the d.a.' office is that we can infer from this >> well, i'm glad to be with you, i'm not sure that i think it's necessarily a cooperation at this point. we can tell from the motio that was filed that there were some interview that was given,

and the lawyer was present, an these folks are saying w didn't know about immunity that tells me that there's n deal on the table and ther might not be a cooperation effort there one thing to kind of keep in mind is, this is really th second time just attorney' office has tried to disqualify lawyers for the same group o people it is getting to be a little bit like when you run into a brick wall and you can't get around it, the only thing ca do is tear it down it seems like maybe that's what's going on here so i can't tell if they're cooperating. i think that there's som language in the pleading tha makes me question what the rea conflict might be, and one o those things deals with th additional crime you talke about. we don't mean that simply mean one of the fake elector said they signed twice, and i onl signed it once, well that woul be a separate crime, if that's the case it could arguably be additiona criminal conduct, one saying they would be involved and we just don't know a lot yet. but the timing of this i

interesting, given the thing that have been so quiet in the fulford county case since th indictment >> it sounds like there' discussion around plea bargains if not, actual execution o them, so what does that signal to you about the fulton county investigation? >> well i do think tha probably the dea sat down an take note after the criticis of the new york indictment indictment was criticized fo not being date detail, enoug laying out information specific allegations about wha crimes were involved we may be seeing some cleaning up they are but this seems to b just as we go on further, into this idea that the dea here is looking for an enrico charge o conspiracy charge, more of a concerted effort with th election and a group of people that may or may not come t pass but it seems to be wher she's headed that would be the only reaso

to be continuing to talk wit these fake electors at thi point. so where it may stand, i don't know, but i will say that when you have a case and you have t sort of untangle the defendant from their lawyers in order to try to get the information tha you need to prove your case, you know, that sometimes a moment to pause and think abou the strength of the underlying case anyway. so we will see i appreciate the fact that the raised ethical and professiona responsibilities of lawyers an the duties of confidentiality. we recognize those in those ar sacrosanct it's a bit of an irie an irony here because the prosecutors filing this motion, they'r trying to put people in jail a the same time they're talkin about, we want to protect thei rights and that's a good thing. but nonetheless it is a bi ironic >> i don't know. it seems sort of interesting t me that one lawyer, paid for b the georgia republican party is representing ten people who

may be key to proving enrico charge >> and that can create a inherent conflict. but again, this is the secon bite of the apple for th d.a.'s office. -- heard the same similar motions and dealt with at the time the chairman of the state gop an how that was going to play out in those groups were divided the one individual separated from the other potential defendants, or at least target or subject or persons of interest in the investigation. as we're going forward the clients have a right t choose which lawyer they wan to represent them. now that has to be done with full knowledge of what the consequences may be, being advised that they there may be other problems, potentia convene confidentiality issues and how you deal with that it's important to the client are advised of that at the same time, the have that right. there are certain circumstances, the dea is right in, is ther are certain circumstances of untenable situation you can'

advise them. but you can imagine a case where you have a group o people, they've all been sent target letter, been called and brought before the grand jury, and the lawyers are saying let's just not talk. sort of without the firs domino falling, i don't have any of it. and i imagine those kind o discussions that are going o in the defense game. there is nothing wrong with th idea of protecting potential defendants rights. that's a good thing. at the same time, it's going t be balanced by the court, th idea and really a sacrosanct choice fitted vandoorne has to have a lawyer of his choosin his or her choosing to represent. him >> michael moore, thank yo for your time this evening i do appreciate it we have more to come tonight the white man in missouri wh shot a black teenager fo ringing his doorbells says h fired his gun because he was scared and in missouri, as in about 3 other states wit stand-your-ground laws, that alone could be enough for hi to avoid conviction.

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story too many times before. a black teenager is out doing mundane task in 2012 was a quick trip to convenience store. the teenager was 17 and he was on his way back to his father' place with a bottle of juice and a bag of skittles. he was wearing a hoodie, and h was black. his name was trayvon martin. a 28-year-old neighbor, george zimmerman, claimed he wa acting in self-defense when he shot trayvon there have been a series o robberies in the area, and zimmerman said he shot trayvon because he was afraid. he feared bodily harm. months passed before zimmerman was actually arrested an charged with killing trayvon martin he wasn't tried on the spot, because police said they couldn't disprove zimmerman' version of the events, that he was defending himself, that he stood his ground after weeks of protester sounding the alarm, george zimmerman was finally charge with second degree murder. eventually he was acquitted. in 2020 it was an afternoo

shock in a coastal georgia town the doctor was 25 years old. he was black his workout caught the attention of three local man who grabbed their guns and hopped in a truck and begin to follow the jogger. the man said there had been string of robberies in the area they said they were scared they thought the jogger was th thief. the jogger was ahmaud arbery three man chased him down an two of them shot him dead. still, they also walked away from that shooting as freeman. they claim they were defending themselves under the state stand-your-ground laws more than ten weeks passed before those men were arrested they were eventually convicted of murder. stand-your-ground laws explode after 2012, when georg zimmerman killed trayvon martin now more than 30 states have laws that do away with the ide that people have a duty to retreat from a dangerous situation that the encounter a their home or even in some public spaces. instead, a person wh reasonably believes they are i danger of death or serious har

can use deadly force but that law tends t exacerbate some potentiall fatal racial disparities first, there is the fundamenta question of who's presence i this country is often deemed suspicious or questionable, an who's rarely is. and then there is how the la is applied when white americans in stand-your-ground state, whe white americans shoot a blac person dead and clai self-defense, the killing is ruled a justifiable homicide 34% of the time. but when the races are reversed, when it is a black shooter and a white victim, that rat plummets only 3% of those homicides are deemed justifiable which brings us to last week april 14th it was a quick trip to pick up his little twin brothers, both 11 years old he was 16 years old, and h rang the doorbell, but he ha the wrong address for the hous in kansas city, missouri another state with the

stand-your-ground law. the white homeowner, andre lester, claims he thought it was a break-in, and was said h was scared to death due to the males size in his own advanced age, 84. for the record, the mail i this case is a high school student named ralph yarl lester claims that because h was scared to death, h immediately shot yarl in the head through a glass door. yarl was taken to the hospital where he received surgery to remove the bullets he was finally released over the weekend, and is no recovering at home andrew lester, for his part, was detained in the night of the shooting, but was then released a few hours later with no charges. he claimed self-defense in a stand-your-ground state. after a week of protests lester was finally charged wit felony assault unarmed crimina action this afternoon he turned himself in as of tonight, he's out on bail his arraignment is scheduled for tomorrow leicester's decision to shoo ralph yarl, follows a patter

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>> this was the scene just a few hours ago in downtow kansas city, missouri. hundred

of people gathered outside the police department calling fo justice for 16-year-ol shooting victim ralph yarl earlier today, more than 100 students walk staley how schoo and did a unity march, chantin we love you ralph. yarl wa shot in the head and in the ar after knocking on the wron door. he was then turned awa from three different homes i that neighborhood before anybody agreed to help him joining us now is derek johnson, president and ceo of the naacp mr. johnson, thank you for joining me tonight. i just, how, what does it say about america in the year 2023 that this young man was shot for ringing the wrong doorbell and that he had to go to three house before anyone would open the door and help him as he la there bleeding >> it is not safe to be blac in america. that is what thi says. this was a child. people would say he's a young man, bu he is a child who has done one in school, appears to be a model and friend to his peer

in school. and simply got th wrong address. for my children my 17-year-old, my 15-year-old again, this is another talk. b careful who you walk up to and ring the bell because ther unfortunately, racism may caus harm. and it is a sad state fo us to be an in 2023. >> i just wonder if the to could be probably just distilled something simpler, which is don't go anywhere and don't do anything. i mean, i seems impossible to ask blac children to not ring the wrong doorbell, or to just have to drive in the most perfect wa possible, and even if you ar doing that, they may not b enough. i mean, at this point, it seems like the message is explicit to a certain sectio of this country, which is, you don't belong here. and if yo do feel like you belong here you may get killed >> there are three problem with this country. there is th

rash of gun violence who has [interpreter] -- public policy must address. we have th unresolved issue of racism i this country. that is a proble that must be addressed. and we have superspreader platforms o social media and, unfortunately, fox news, along with local new channels that impregnate concepts of the fear of blac people and black men. we hav to address those things. the concept of watching a new loca news and the first seven minutes outside of the weather it is all about negative portrayals of black people and you give the name of the community. that creates a leve of fear and othering tha causes people to respond in th most negative and heinous ways against black people. and we continuously have the same typ of stories and unfortunately we must do something about i because we have not done anything about it today.

>> there is also legislation that supports another ring right? it seems like stand-your-ground, we stated stats in the previous segmen about how disproportionately black victims are treated or shall i say, white shooters ar treated under the law when the execute or try and execute black victims as compared to the inverse, which is blac shooters and white victims. do you think that the explicitl racial outcome of laws lik stand-your-ground, that that rachel outcome is actually the point of stand your ground laws, that have been adopted by 30 states in this country >> well, it is part of the effort of the gun industry t make people feel empowered b having guns in their hands and to feel as if they are protected in that castle. this was an example of a young ma who rang a doorbell, the doo was closed, there was no president and clear danger here is young man who simply lost his way and an 84-year-ol behind his door had no reaso to believe this life was under

threat other than watching the fox news or looking at the social media platforms of loca news that continuously portray us as a negative, as violent how we are seeing on the scree is how we are treated in the streets. and in public policy, we must change the portrayal o news segments and we must enac public policy to address gun violence and to address racism >> derek johnson, president of the naacp, thank you for joining me tonight, mr johnson. i really appreciate your time. >> thank you >> we'll be right back shake 'n feed. that's it. miracle-gro. all you need to know to grow. how to grow delicious herbs: step one: use miracle-gro potting mix.

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we will see you again tomorrow and now it is time for the las word with lawrence o'donnell good evening, lawrence >> good evening, alex. we have both of them here tonight. representatives justin jones and representative justi pearson. >> amazing >> together for the first time on this program. we are really eager to hear from both of them we have really looking forward to it. of course, we have to cover th news of the day before we ge to that, that legal news of th dominion case and where that stands, what happens next fo fox. because it -- it's no over >> yeah, well, the to justin's on a day like today, when we are once again talking about gun violence in a differen context, but there is a lot am sure they will have to sa about that and the inheren