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playing checkers and right now, that's very different in how this looks. and in the outcome, and the feel, for what it's impacting ron desantis' campaign >> gabe gutierrez, charlie sykes, robert gibbs, thanks for being with us. "chris jansing reports" will start in a moment, and thanks to you, this is "andrea mitchell reports" on mitchell reports on twitter. ♪ good day, i'm chris jansing live at msnbc headquarters in new york city. making simple mistakes is part of who we are as people. it's called being human. so why are more and more people getting shot for making them three incidents, three victims all in less than a week. the latest happening less than 36 hours ago in texas. we've got the latest on all of
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them coming up plus, ron desantis' bid to make a splash in washington barely made a ripple now with red flags for the campaign piling up the governor heads to south carolina but the poll just as tough by donald trump beating him by 20 points and fox news is on the hook for that $800 million settlement no question, it's a hit to their bottom line, but will it change the way they do business but, we start with this, in a country where guns outnumber people, a sickening pattern is emerging more americans doing what we all do all the time, going to the wrong house, getting lost on the road opening the wrong car door making simple mistakes but now, getting shot over them it happened again early tuesday morning in texas when a houston area teenager traveling with members of her cheer squad thought she was getting into her own car before realizing it was
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someone else's, she tried to walk away, but it was too late >> i was trying to apologize to him for accidently getting to the car. and then he -- i just -- halfway noticed he disappeared and he pulled out a gun and was pointing it at all of us >> four girls, all friends and cheerleaders were in the car when the bullets started flying. two were unhurt, a third was grazed but the fourth, payton washington was hit twice >> i'm payton, washington, i'm 16 years old and i'm from austin, texas. i'm 100% cheerleading all the time i think about it, wake up, thinking about my team cheering is everything. >> now, instead of preparing for this weekend's world championships, washington is recovering from multiple gunshot
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wounds now, she is alive but still hospitalized and facing an uncertain future it comes three days after 20-year-old kaylin gillis was killed after accidently pulling into the wrong driveway looking for a friend as you house in upstate new york she never even got out of her car, she was shot when she was driving away the suspect david monahan is due in court as we speak and we're expecting the arraignment of andrew lester accused of shooting 16-year-old ralph yarl in the head after he rang lester's doorbell, mistakenly thinking his little brothers were inside all these victims did was make a mistake. none was armed as we know right now, none opposed a threat all shot anyway. nbc's blayne alexander is following the shooting in texas, kristin dahlgren in new york
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and wayne in new york. let me start with you, what do we know about payton's condition and what happened there have. >> reporter: chris, all of these things that you lay out are young people that made innocent mistakes the situation in texas, these were members of a texas elite cheerleading squad they were coming back from a grocery store, this was a place from all accounts they used routinely to carpool and get in cars with others when this happened, one of the young ladies got out and started to get in the car she believed was hers there was somebody sitting in the passenger seat of her car. she quickly realized that's not my car she got back to the car to get in with her friends moments later, that individual walked over to the car. according to the father of payton washington and the owner of the cheer gym what happened next is a blur we understand they rolled down
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their window wanting to apologize to the man, saying, hey, we're sorry, we got into the wrong vehicle. they say no words were exchanged. that man raised his hands, brandished a gun and started shooting they tried to drive away, one of the young ladies was grazed. and payton was shot twice. she has a scholarship to attend baylor university to attend cheering and tumbling next year. she's facing a long road to recovery she's had surgery, we understand she was placed on a ventilator at one point and she's facing another surgery later this week. according to her father, none of these young ladies posed a threat it's even more egregious when you consider the fact this is a young lady in a cheer uniform, chris. >> oh, my goodness, kristin, tell me about new york, what do we know about the suspect there
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and what do we know about how kaylin gillis was kid. >> reporter: right, he's already charged with second degree murder his attorney saying this wasn't intentional. he never meant to hurt anyone. the attorneys saying sometimes there are no villains in a case. while there are mistakes made, his client, monahan, did not mean to hurt anyone. we're also learning a lot more from kaylin gillis' boyfriend who was the driver that night. he says that he and three others and gillis were in a car they didn't have cell service. they were looking for a party and they pulled into the wrong driveway as soon as they realized they were in the wrong place, they turned around and were actually leaving he says when two rounds were fired into the car. somebody yelled, somebody's shooting at us, he tried to step on the gas but gillis was hit. he said they had to go five miles away to get any help he describes her as his high school sweetheart.
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the woman he had planned to spend the rest of his life with. he also says he hopes it was over quickly for her, and that she didn't suffer. but really a tragic situation as we wait to see what happens in court today, chris >> oh, boy, i know you'll keep us posted. meantime, maggie vespa, the alleged shooter is in court later today, what else can you tell us? >> reporter: of course, that arraignment expected to begin at 1:30 an hour and a hahalf, the clay county court andrew lester, the white home owner that we've been seen in the last couple days was set to appear here virtually, and not physically be at the courthouse. as of a couple how, we now expect him to see physically in the hearing. chris, that being said,
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arraignments can be procedural, they can be quick, and we don't expect anything paramount to come out of the case, other than just answering questions to the judge. meeting for the first time with an attorney that kind of thing so, we'll see if he says anything, or kind of his demeanor in that courtroom but, of course, he is facing those two felony counts including first degree assault that being said, i do, chris, want to give you an update in the last hour, ralph yarl's family as we know has been calling for hate crime charges in the case. and county prosecutors say they decline to file those, because in this case, those would come with a shorter sentence. and the first degree charge comes with a lifetime sentence but ralph yarl's family really wants that hate crime attached to the case. as per their attorney, they've now requested a federal investigation into hate crime charges filed at that level, after county prosecutors declined to go that route. that's the latest, chris >> have we had any updates
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today, maggie, on how he's doing? >> reporter: yeah, we actually just got a photo in showing, honestly, a remarkable photo, given the injuries we know the 16-year-old sustained. he was shot at his attorney's words at point blank range in the face thursday night. he has a fractured skull we're now seeing ralph yarl at home, sitting with his attorney, smiling and sitting up, which is incredible to see for all of the supporters who have been out there worried about this 16-year-old. we're told again, traumatic brain injury tbi. cracked skull. she does have a speech impairment, unable to communicate, but the family is hoping for a long-term recovery. and hopes that will correct itself for the kid who they say is an honor student, and wants to study music at texas a&m. and the family is hopeful that he will accomplish everything in
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that he can after this shooting. and the family is hopeful and taking it one day at a time. >> we'll look to get that picture turned so we can show folks, blayne alexander, kristen dalhgren and maggie vespa, thank you. what's behind the cases in america? might they help move the needle in washington? now, we're back in 60 seconds. in the clouds of your choice. with flexible multi-cloud services that enable digital innovation and enterprise control, vmware helps you innovate and grow. there's always a fresh deal on the subway app. like this one! 50% off?! that deal's so good we don't even need an eight-time all-star to tell you about it. wait what? get it before it's gone on the subway app!
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quote, i'm sufficientfy frightened over how easily we're willing to shoot each other. paul henderson is a veteran prosecutor and executive director of san fran's department of account symone sanders townsend, and now the host of "simone" on msnbc. simone, somebody makes a simple mistake. i've done all of those things. gotten in the wrong car. had to turn around in somebody's driveway, and get shot what's going on here, do you think? >> i really don't know, chris. and i think we should -- i definitely viscerally connected with the words the congressman, disturbed about how easy it is to turn to violence against one another. i think particularly, in the case in kansas city, the young man who was just trying to go and pick up his brothers, that is a case where the suspect himself said he peeked out of the window and the witness statement that
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the police took from him, said after he saw a black man, he opened the door and we know what happened in other cases that we discussed, the case in new york, the case in texas, it does not make sense i think people are on edge i think people are scared. but i also think that folks who feel -- who are exhibiting this feeling should not be folks who are wielding guns in their possession at any given moment so, i think it is a prime time to continue the conversation about background checks. and gun safety legislation, so things like that, this, are not commonplace in america as they are right now. >> and i want to speak more with you about that, but, paul, let's talk about some of the legal parts of this action the suspect in new york, kevin monahan is supposed to be in court at this hour we got clues from his possible defense from the attorney, saying he didn't mean.
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and blamed it on a series of errors he said his client felt menaced. here's what the sheriff said about that >> going up the wrong driveway by mistake are certainly not grounds in new york, or anyplace, to be shot at. they were in the process of leaving which makes this case obviously a little different and i don't know how you could menace someone if you're leaving the property >> paul, he's simply saying i felt afraid, i was scared for my life, a defense? >> absolutely not. because what this raises is all of the legal issues surrounding the stand your ground laws you know, we have those in 38 different states and before we start addressing the race disparate outcomes of those laws we need to look at, specifically in this case, what the legal standards are both for charging the case and what the legal standards are for trying to defend the case what he's alluding to, the
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statement, with the defendant there, how he's allowed withstand your ground to respond to a threat. here's the issue the legal issue turns on two specific issues on what the reasonableness is of the threat. and what the reasonableness is of using lethal force. and in both of those standards i think you're going to fail in all three of these cases so that's the real legal issue that's going to unpack in the case ahead when we hear the testimony. that's what will we should be listening for, the reasonableness of the threat which did not exist when there's a mistake, not a threat. and the threat with legal force, versus telling someone to go away or inquiring what they're doing there. all of this is overshadowed by race disparate outcomes when we're interpreting how violence is used and invoked upon specific situations in this country. >> it leads my directly to what we heard from maggie vespa, that the family of ralph yarl, because there won't be any hate-related charges locally, they're looking to the feds to
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take a look at this. what would that look like? how would that change things >> well, it changes things because the not a double jeopardy if the feds come in and charge the hate crime level. and the state is evaluating what gives them the stronger sentence they're allowed to do that the feds can still come in and do evaluation of hate crimes but what that does is shifts the burden for federal prosecutors to have to prove intent. that's the key issue with hate law crimes to prove a hate law crime, you have to show that intend was to address issues from the defendant beyond just of the act of violence in and of itself and that's not a problem here. i would love to see that type of approach, also, to address some of the things we talked about race disparate outcomes in these kind of cases that the federal government and this the biden/harris administration taking the lead and addressing not just gun violence but the implication of gun violence on
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disenfranchised communities. i think it would be a great step up >> and, symone -- do we still have symone -- okay, i heard that in my ear let me ask you this, paul. she was talking about the fact that this raises the stakes, right? this raises the stakes, in an administration that has fought really hard, had some progress but by the president's own admission hasn't gotten far enough you've had two members of congress shot in recent years, didn't change anything, really didn't change anything when children in newtown got shot i don't know you're around this, in your everyday job is everyday people making a simple mistake and yet getting shot maybe bring this to a different level? i don't know what's your gut tell you? >> my gut tells me that maybe we're approaching a tipping point. we're seeing more and more action addressing the laws and this may be the moment that
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the community collectively leans in and says it's reasonable for to us have gun laws and restrictions it's reasonable to challenge how stand your ground gets interpreted and have limitations that give us a race-neutral outcome because i think that's important. i do think that we're starting to see more action we saw the biden/harris administration take a stance in march talking about access to guns and gun background checks i think those are really reasonable let's see how much leeway and support they get in doing these time of approaches i will point out, one of the things that seems interesting in particular with the biden/harris administration, with the poe official for the feds to get involved why as kamala harris while she was prosecutor, and she put in charge of hate crimes i know there's a deep facility with the administration on how to proceed with the cases. i'd like to see that evaluation be part of prosecutions that take place when we're addressing
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gun control laws and gun shootings. so i'm looking forward to that evaluation, the next steps, beyond just the criminality that we've been discussing this morning. >> so, symone, we were talking about the biden/harris administration, and their efforts to try to get forward some gun legislation, some common sense gun legislation and i'll ask you the question again, which is simply, we haven't made a lot of progress when members of congress have gotten shot, little kids have gotten shot. now, we're seeing this series of people getting shot for doing pretty much nothing but makes a mistake every single one of us has probably made at one time or another. and i hate to look at this as an opportunity. but there's something here that the biden/harris administration can message. is there something here. we know that the president, for example, called ralph yarl, and they had a long conversation we know how he feels about this. is there something to take from this in terms of moving the ball
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forward even a little? >> look, i think so, chris the reality is, and you all -- we were speaking about the stand your ground laws a moment ago, the stand your ground laws come from state legislatures across the country, right that is how those laws are put in the books in states from florida to missouri and many states in between. stitt legislatures are the people that introduce and pass those bills. i think if the white house had done as much as they could, particularly on the issue of gun reform, after the shooting at covenant school, i remember see the president on the tarmac, and he was asked particularly about what can he do now and if you read the transcript it sounded kind of flippant, he said, i've done all i could. i watched the video and he looked exacerbated he has done all that he can do from the executive congress, governors, state legislators have to step up. i look at the governor of tennessee, after the covenant
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school shooting. after the international outcry, after the people in the state of tennessee would not take no for an answer, kept the pressure on after the governor's own best friend lost his wife in sthat shooting he called on the red flag laws. i think that is what is going to take on, unfortunately, the voices of people not letting up and for those young people in kansas city who walked out to stand with their friend, their class maim, ralph yarl, those young people, they understood the assignment there are adults who literally have not gotten it together yesterday. these young people, they understand and it's those young folks that are going to make the difference. >> paul henderson, thank you symone, you're going to stay with us. right now, ron desantis is trying to turn this week around stops in the key state and the family of tyree nichols announcing a lawsuit
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work to do a recent poll there shows him 20 points behind former president donald trump here's desantis earlier today. >> the stakes are really, really high i think if the dems sweep 2024 with the presidency, house and senate, that's an agenda that's trying to render the conservative half of the country to be second-class citizens. >> that's after a lackluster day in d.c. yesterday. desantis went, hoping to win some endorsements, but instead, trump rained on his parade with new endorsements of his own including from two more florida congressmen. back in florida, we're watching the latest escalation in desantis' relentless fight with disney, leave something key republicans puzzled. >> andvolutes the entire republican message i don't think it's good for ron desantis >> i don't think ron desantis is a conservative based on actions towards disney
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>> nbc's gabe gutierrez is live and david jolly. david in the middle of all of this, i understand we got an interview with one of desantis' staunchest supporters. give us the lay of the land from team desantis. >> reporter: hi there, chris, good afternoon, house speaker paul renner, i spoke with him earlier this morning, look, he's not eager to wade into presidential politics at this point but what you hear from many desantis supporters saying, look, the governor's not officially in the race yet but he just needs more time. he's focused, they say, on what's going on from the florida legislature from that from the republican legislature, the legislature has been effective granting victory on things like the six-week abortion vouchers and expanding gun rights but the speaker earlier today, about can governor desantis beat former president trump who just called desantis' war on disney a
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political stunt. take a listen. >> when i know about the governor, he's focused on making this, before the decision. you've got president trump and you got the best governor in the entire country when the session is over which is what i'm focused on exclusively now i'll be happy to talk to you, i have strong feelings about the primary and i'll be happy to share those with you when we get there >> did the governor beat president trump? >> we'll talk about that when we get there, that's up to the voters, not me, not you. >> reporter: again, questions remain about whether desantis can keep the florida delegation, at the federal level, whether he can keep their support as he said, chris, mounting endorsements for former president trump, at least six republicans have thrown their
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support behind trump, chris. >> david, you know florida politics better than most. what's your read on trump apparently not just outmanuring desantis but you've got another longtime desantis ally a guy maimed brian mast, who didn't just back trump, apparently, he's going to cheer a veterans group what's going none florida? >> let me disagree with the senator saying desantis isn't running yet, he is, he's gone to ohio, and asia, for the foreign policy chops desantis is in what you're seeing this fall is the return of his camp the reason you're seeing the florida delegation to trump and the tepid response in d.c. is because ron desantis has very few allies and very late loyalty, he's done it his way, look, to his credit, he's done it his way and become governor but when that means a
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hard-fought race against donald trump, the allies just won't be there for ron desantis finally, chris, we have to acknowledge, we're just witnessing the strength of donald trump's grip on the party. it remains stronger than ever. >> let's talk specifically about the fight ongoing against disney, one of the biggest employers, biggest tax revenues in the state of florida. is there anything smartly strategic about what he's do or are you in a chris christie camp >> the only thing smarts about it, he launched a culture war in today's republican primary politics, culture wars are in. now, this is a culture war that's very discriminatory against the lgbtq and trans-youth. what you're seeing now is an exercise in vanity and vengeance. i mean, he used the powers of the state to punish speech there's no question about that because as disney has responded, desantis has doubled and tripled
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down and there is nothing republican about it i would say not just chris christie condemned him, but justin amosh, the congressman that desantis was a part of, and desantis is not acting in his conservative way on the warin disney >> it's interesting to see trump, besides the fact he's doing very well in the polls, desantis right this second in south carolina down by 20. but they tell nbc news, team trump, that they're very strategically rolling out endorsements they've got them and waiting for the right moment are we seeing a different kind of campaign for donald trump >> well, you are, you're seeing at architect of suzie wiles who is the key strategist for donald trump. for ron desantis as much as he seems to be tripping, the more he gets out there, the more he falls. he's doing what it takes for first rate infrastructure raising money for president.
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his team thinks a lot of this is just noise donald trump, though, for the first 60 days had a terrible presidential campaign, now, he's firing on cylinders available to him. despite the indictment, he's beginning to triangulate ron desantis and suzie wiles is fine-tuning the messaging. particularly with indictments, is donald trump maintaining control in 2024? as of now, yes, he is. >> former congressman david jolly, gabe gutierrez, thanks, guys, appreciate it. fox now acknowledge, it aired false claims about the 2020 election. what the massive settlement mean for the truth and future of the network? next on "chris jansing reports" only on msnbc. so it's decided, we'll park even deeper into parking spaces so people think they're open. surprise. [ laughs ] [ horn honks, muffled talking ] -can't hear you, jerry. -sorry. uh, yeah, can we get a system
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take a look at this new video from inside a new york city parking garage, as it collapsed tuesday afternoon. a source familiar with the investigation confirms this footage is being reviewed as part of the probe into the collapse it killed one person and hurt at least five others. cars and trucks pancaked on top of each other, sending plumes of dust from the wreckage workers were inside the four-story building at the time. but officials now believe everyone has been accounted for. this is what it looks like this morning, as authorities fry to figure out exactly why this happened the reverberations from the
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surprising and historic settlement in the dominion versus fox news lawsuit totaling $787.5 million are loud. but the impact is less than clear 24 hours later though, the agreement comes with a rare acknowledgement from fox that the court found that certain claims they made about dominion were false. the network does not have to apologize on air that's according to details of the settlement shared with the public so what does it all mean for the truth and for the network's future symone sanders townsend, both spokesman for vice president kamala harris and nbc's "symone" is back with us. as many people know, you were a member of the biden administration, and repeatedly questioned by many fox news hosts. and now relating to the legitimacy of the biden presidency, what do you see as
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the significance of this settlement >> chris, i guess there are two significant things coming out of the settlement first, defamation cases are hard to win i'm not a lawyer but i used to be a spokesperson for lawyers in my consulting days one of the persons i worked for, one of the things they did, they represented corporations and entities and always talk about defamation cases, people can bring themmer hardest thing to win. there's no there there and you can hold a large entity account ability for lying, especially under his actual malice standard. i think that's really important. i think fox paying up is also important, i don't think, though that is accountability i think the second part of this case, fox lied its viewers because its viewers wanted to be lied to, and we cannot brush over that fact that's what came out in the deposition that's what came out in the text
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messages fox news took these because they were losing to other people, willing to say things, but they themselves were not. i think we have to unpack that and other media entities, campaigns, elected officials, now have to make a decision, i think, about how they're going to engage with fox news, knowing that they are willing to lie to their viewership, simply because that is in fact what they want to hear. >> but do you expect that to happen, number one and number two, if you're fox and you have built a loyal viewership, based on the things that you've been saying that now they have acknowledged not to be true, do you say, okay, i need to change what we're saying? we need to readjust our focus on this or do you just figure that $474 million -- by the way, i think the last quarter of 2022 quarter, they had revenues of $4.6 billion do you say it's the cost of
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doing business >> look. i think fox has already told us when they're decision is on that januineeanine pirro was literaln decision after the settlement was announced. pirro was one of the main pieces fox is going to continue to double down. to be clear, if fox is not doing it, someone else is. there's another news network, one news network, there are so many right wing, i'm not going to call them conservative, because they're not conservative, it's just right wing red meat for people who like to be lied to i think fox news doesn't make a difference let the member of the super bowl -- the president of the united states -- joe biden --
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>> symone sanders-townsend, we're continuing to have technical difficulties, but i think we certainly got to the heart of her statements on that. we thank symone as always being on the program >> the family of tyree nichols suing the state. >> plus, president biden expected to target republicans in remarks next hour we'll have that four live. it's all coming up on "chris jansing reports" only on msnbc there's the podium, waiting for the president. and its customs with social sentiment help you find and unlock opportunities in the market with powerful, easy-to-use tools power e*trade makes complex trading easier react to fast-moving markets with dynamic charting and a futures ladder that lets you place, flatten, or reverse orders so you won't miss an opportunity
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we're following breaking news out of memphis. just moments ago the family of tyre nichols announced they're suing the city and its police department for $550 million over the beating death of the 29-year-old black man in january. here's family attorney ben crump, just minutes ago. >> it is our mission to make it financially unsustainable for these police oppression units to unjustly kill black people in the future. >> the five former police officers involved, each face several charges including second degree murder and aggravated assault, all have pled not guilty veteran prosecutor paul henderson is back with us. what do you make of this
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lawsuit? and what it might mean for the city and the police department >> i think there's some really big implications here. and this goes beyond just being a tragedy. really, tyre nichols stands for a call to action, really to address some of the vase disparities in policing and for behavior like this that we see again and again and again. one of the things that with me, that i think is unique about the case is the swift movement of a civil lawsuit that's not waiting for the other lanes of accountability there's always three lanes of accountability when there's a case like this that's the criminal action, right? where we're seeing the five officers being charged a civil action that we see from attorney ben crump, filing the charge that raises an interesting issue with agency, because it's one city, one defense. and that's going to unpack some of the other actors in the case beyond the police department so the fire department, the paramedics, other officers or
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deputies that may have been involved from other law enforcement agencies, that's what this lawsuit is speaking to but the third lane of administrative accountability is really important as well the administrative accountability is the internal accountably addressing the situation. we saw some of that administrative accountability with seven other officers that weren't charged that were fired. we saw the city council in pretext wall stops impose legislation and call for an investigation into the use of force policies and to de-escalation policies so all of that is going on, all at the same time, while the civil lawsuit is pending and presumably, until in the la you can use the findings from the other two lanes of accountability to is so strong, because we see the video, because we know and see what's happening, ben crump and the family is moving forward they also are looking into federal charges as well. that's an ancillary fourth lane of accountability that is floating around. i know they're asking for a
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civil rights investigation or a hate crime investigation into this same action a lot of movement here and a lot of opportunities to move this country ahead to address some of the problems challenged not just in memphis but throughout the rest of the country as well using this as an example it's why we keep seeing cases like this happen again and again and again because we don't have national policies. we don't have standard best practices being followed that allow race disparities to come through policing to end up in tragedies and a call to action like this. >> tyre nichols mom was at that press conference she said this isn't about the family trying to get a big paycheck this is about accountability let me play for you what she just said. >> this has nothing to do with the monetary value of this lawsuit, but everything that has to do with accountability. >> amen. >> those five police officers murdered my son. they beat him to death
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they need to be held accountable along with everyone else that has something to do with my son's murder >> we've seen this before, paul. multiple other police misconduct lawsuits george floyd's family settled a suit for 27 million. breanna taylor's family with louisville in 2020 imagine if they took all that money and used it for training doesn't it send a message that pushes change or is it just money paid out what's been the experience >> so far the experience has been it's just money paid out because cities are paying these lawsuits out again and again and again. these are just the cases we know we have not seen the changes i'm glad his mother is saying it's not the money
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what she's demanding is reform and accountability you have to have both. that's why she's bringing this lawsuit to call attention to it. hopefully the message will come forward, especially now. our economy is shifting. costs are shifting cities are re-evaluating the costs they pay not just for these lawsuits but the costs that they have built in to policing itself. policing in and of itself is typically the largest ticket item in any budget we have to be asking the question what are we paying for and why are we paying for race disparate outcomes we have to have that reform. we have to have that accountability we looked to washington, d.c. and the biden/harris administration, but we still don't have the george floyd act that's been passed universally in this nation we have to be looking towards state legislators, local legislators to address these problems at a local and macro level. that's why individual advocates can make a difference. we should be raising the issue
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of why more than two-thirds of every law enforcement agency in the country doesn't have an updated use of force policy, which means we still have techniques being used in a race disparate way. we still have no-knock warrants, we have shootings into cars, outcomes like this like tyre nichols. we have to ask yourself what are we doing locally, at a statewide level and nationally to address reform and accountability if we want to change things for law enforcement and that starts with civilian oversight committees that can advocate for these changes. >> thank you if you've been on a flight and thought there was more turbulence than normal, you're not alone. why we are in for a bumpy ride going forward. you're watching chris jansing reports.
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. we're now learning that climate change is affecting the way we travel, but in a way that might surprise you meteorologists and climate experts say turbulence has gotten worse in recent years as carbon dioxide emissions warm the planet tom costello reports >> reporter: it happens every single day, 5,500 times a year severe turbulence can send service carts, food, drinks or passengers flying. >> do we have any trained medical personnel. >> reporter: sometimes causing serious injuries lacerations, broken bones and concussions. >> i saw like a handful of people are lacerations on their head and blood dripping down. >> reporter: seven were injured in march when a lufthansa flight from texas to germany hit severe turbulence over tennessee on board, actor matthe mcconaughey who talked about it on kelly ripa's podcast. >> it was a hell of a scare.
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complete lost of control. >> reporter: so-called clear air turbulence has only gotten more severe over the decades. >> it is increasing, and it is because of climate change. so we know that the wind sheer in the jet stream is now 15% stronger than it was when satellites first began observing it in the 1970s. >> reporter: researcher paul williams predicts turbulence will get two to three times worse in the years to come affecting flights at hig altitudes in the northern hemisphere >> there has been no notable increased in the jet stream winds, but what we are seeing is the differentiating in height, that's when you get the clear air turbulence it is invisible to radar most pilots rely on fellow pilots' reports to know where it is >> imagine the air flow over this wing experiencing a sudden
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