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complete lost of control. >> reporter: so-called clear air turbulence has only gotten more severe over the decades. >> it is increasing, and it is because of climate change. so we know that the wind sheer in the jet stream is now 15% stronger than it was when satellites first began observing it in the 1970s. >> reporter: researcher paul williams predicts turbulence will get two to three times worse in the years to come affecting flights at hig altitudes in the northern hemisphere >> there has been no notable increased in the jet stream winds, but what we are seeing is the differentiating in height, that's when you get the clear air turbulence it is invisible to radar most pilots rely on fellow pilots' reports to know where it is >> imagine the air flow over this wing experiencing a sudden
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updraft. this wing will be pushed up violently and instantly and the plane will tilt to the left. >> reporter: on commercial flights, flight attendants that are up and about suffer 78% of the injuries. >> the skies have definitely gotten more turbulent. and during the course of my 26-year career, turbulence was always the biggest threat on the job. >> i will say seat belts, seat belts, seat belts. that is the most important part of this. >> reporter: tom costello, nbc news. we have a lot to cover in our second hour of "chris jansing reports. let's get right to it. at this hour, demanding answers. we're moments away from an all-senators briefing on the biggest classified documents leak in a decade what lawmakers want to know. inside a key moment from the january 6th insurrection that one proud boys leader says he can't recall
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details of that testimony on the stand and under oath and 30 minutes from now, the man accused of shooting ralph yarl will be arraigned charged with two felonies on monday what yarl's family and the community are telling our reporter on the ground authorities just announced the arrest of two teenage suspects charged in the deadly sweet 16 birthday massacre that left four dead and dozens wounded in alabama over the weekend. our nbc news reporters are following all of the latest developments let's start with the two teenage brothers charged as adults apparently in connection with the shooting that left four people dead and more than 30 injured at a sweet 16 birthday party in alabama this weekend. guad venegas is covering this for us >> authorities have been careful about sharing any details of this investigation we know that the two suspects arrested are teenagers
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they are from a city 30 miles south of dadeville, tuskegee, and they are brothers. they also said at this point they will not disclose if they know what the motive was behind this ncident authorities have said they have chosen to keep a lot of these details to themselves. they're not disclosing more information. the district attorney did say they intend to prosecute both of these teens as adults. they also added that they plan to add more charges because of those that were wounded in the incident we know as of now 32 have been wounded. that's the information we've received from the press conference this morning. we expect more updates from authorities in alabama >> thank you for that. let's go to maggie vespa in kansas city. we are getting updates from ralph yarl's family, there will be the arraignment of the
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84-year-old suspect coming up, but what are we hearing from that family? >> the family has been telling us about the charges that are coming down, and whether it's hate crime charges, potential penalties for this 84-year-old that we expect to see shortly. they say he's healing one day at a time, then you see photos like this this is the one we talked about last hour of ralph yarl, the 16-year-old, shot on thursday in the head and arm sitting with his family's attorney, l lee merritt. the two of them sitting there, sitting up straight, outside ralph is smiling frankly, our team was blown away he looks incredible given what he's been through and what he's going through. part of that, his family says, is he knows, ralph knows about the support from the community, from kansas city, nationwide, from the white house to hollywood. he's aware of how many people are shining spotlights on his
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case take a listen. >> he sees a lot of love in america, a lot of good people. doesn't matter black, white, yellow, green, it doesn't matter there's people who love him that i have never met that he would never meet but they're pouring love into him. >> another big sort of flash point in that show of support. yesterday his classmates, 1,500 of them walking out of school in the middle of the day wearing his favorite color, blue, saying they instant with him, support him and they want justice in his case one more update from the family. the family, per the attorney, now pushing for a federal investigation into potential hate crime charges tied to this shooting >> maggie vespa with a lot going on the arraignment of the 84-year-old suspect coming up in
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a half hour. the leader of the philadelphia proud boys who stormed the capitol on january 6th was asked about pepper spraying officers during the insurrection in court today. i want to bring in ryan reilly you've been covering this throughout what did he say and how does it fit into the big picture of this trial? >> the government revealed this evidence yesterday that him with some object in his hands it was flashed by. it was illuminated by the online sleuths looking into everything january 6th. it shows him pointing a device towards police officers and what the government maintains is a stream coming out potentially of that device. now, zachary fell apart on the stand and wasn't clear how he should go down this road or whether or not he wanted to confirm it he said he did not recall using pepper spray against officers that day the problem is that the government has evidence in another case, another proud boy
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who said zachary was more heated than he'd ever seen him on january 6th and was asking other rioters for bear spray that day. that document also concedes that he did not obtain bear spray so no details on what was in his hand there but it won't help his case we also have the proud boy who shattered that window and started that mob that went into the capitol that day a lot of testimony coming up as this proud boy trial finally after three months is starting to wrap up here. >> ryan reilly, thank you for that update. in d.c., senators are preparing to head into that all-senate briefing on the pentagon intelligence leak it's happening next hour i want to bring in garrett haake. senators have made no bones about this they want this briefing. they have a lot of questions what are the top things they're hoping to learn as you talked to
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them >> lawmakers are incredibly frustrated by this whole episode, because of the damaging nature of some of these leaks, some of these documents posted online and then reported about, but also that we've gotten to this point at all. the broader questions of why a 21-year-old air national guardsman has access to so many of these particular secrets and what procedures were in place to prevent him from walking out with them printed on paper and posting them online. this is not the standard across the intelligence community certain rules clearly were not followed here. this will be all senators, also all house members will get a briefing later tonight even lawmakers who don't deal a lot with classified information have questions and frustrations about this here was bill cassidy talking about this issue earlier today >> a national guards airman in massachusetts somehow gets security clearance to the top
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level. that's like, no offense, y'all i'm in the press so therefore give me a top secret security clearance. >> we're in the press. we don't have top secret security clearance his point is well taken here especially when there is a backlog of people trying to get approved for security clearance, how this 21-year-old got such a high-level clearance, with apparently a track record that should have prevented it that will be among the questions that lawmakers ask briefers today. >> thank you for that. for senators in that room, one looming question for them to answer, is our national security clearance system broken? if so, how do they help fiitx we'll dig into that in 60 seconds. s. ♪tell me why♪ because it stinks. ♪have you tried downy rinse and refresh♪ it helps remove odors 3x better than detergent alone. it worked guys! ♪yeahhhh♪ downy rinse and refresh.
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teixeira's case granted a two-week postponement. the fallout includes a reassessment of who should have clearance. teixeira, a low-ranking national air guardsman not long out of high school had access to materials meant for top pentagon officials. joining us now is the founder on executive director of the national secure institute, jamil jaffer courtney, an estimated 1.3 million americans have top-secret clearance we've used that number a lot each of those clearance is reviewed every five years, already since this arrest, since this leak, have you heard, seen that there are changes being made >> so, there is already an effort under way to try to narrow who might have access to some of the intelligence like
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jack teixeira seems to have had. there's two things to consider here he was an i.t. specialist, he had high-level clearance and also had this training, like a year to 18 months to get that advanced level of skill set that would give him more access to working on some of these more classified systems that's why he would have access to things like the systems where there's daily operational reporting, somebody working as an i.t. specialist working in the national guard wouldn't necessarily need that but he would to get into these systems. in the military, there's a need to know. if he didn't need to know this information, theoretically he shouldn't be looking at it that's more of a person to person system. so there almost has to be a
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self-reporting policing of that. i don't get the sense that the security clearance process is necessarily going to change. i think there will be procedures after the fact that will have to be more stringent and enforced more or even changed going forward. how was he able to presumably printout these documents, potentially hundreds of documents without anyone noticing and take them out of a secure facility without a security manager or someone else noticing those are the questions that need to be addressed here. >> is that the kind of question you have or do you think that there needs to be a wholesale reassessment of the way these clearance are given? for example, vetting includes checks for online activity, but only public-facing forums like social media, not public chat rooms or emails. maybe that's the problem what's your take on this >> courtney raised some important points about how the system works today and how the vetting works. i think we need to do more on
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that front and get better vetting, continuous monitoring when you get a security clearance, maybe when you're in the vetting process, you give up more access to your private information as well. this is an area to look into, but it has to happen across the board and over a sustained period he was continuing to abuse his access to this material while he had authorized access. >> so, secretary austin was asked about the age of the accused leaker, 21 listen to what he had to say about it today >> the vast majority of our military is young. so, it's not exceptional that young people are doing important things in our military that's really not the issue. the issue is how you responsibly execute or carry out your duties, how you protect the
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information. >> probably no surprise that the tech staff is young, but austin's comments would also seem to suggest that at 21 or actually i think you could say a teen because teixeira got his clearance two years ago the question of whether someone that age has the maturity or experience to handle this kind of information, do you think his view is widely held among the intel people you know, maybe even folks within congress is age an issue at all certainly there have been leakers, serious leakers who are older than 21. >> that's right. some were much older and had security clearance for many years. age is not the question. the question is have they gone through the right vetting, does this person understand the responsibilities they take on and then do they choose to violate them if they choose to violate their responsibilities, it doesn't matter if they're 18, 21, or 48.
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we need proper vetting, not setting an arbitrary age barrier. >> thank you both very much. we have breaking news out of new york a judge has just ordered kevin monahan, the man accused of shooting a woman aftershe mistakenly pulled into his driveway remain in custody without bail the 65-year-old is accused of shooting gillis as she was driving away from his home after getting lost in his neighborhood last week. he is facing second-degree murder charges president biden set to speak about the economy any moment now. the contrast he wants to draw with his republican rivals plus, following a massive fox news settlement with dominion voting systems, another lawsuit with a voting machine company is also under way the latest on that legal battle coming up. and if you're using your friend's netflix password or still getting those red envelopes with dvds, we have news for you later in the show you're watching "chris jansing
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will expose the rest let's discuss this now the question is is there more to come we know that during the dominion case, glenn, there were some questions raised by the judge himself about whether or not fox was withholding information. do you think that smartmatic might be looking for more or has even more? >> smartmatic indicated that there's more shoes to drop in that statement that you just referenced think about this dominion sued fox for $1.6 billion in damages smartmatic is suing for considerably more. $2.7 million whereas this settlement is no legal precedent. it certainly is atmospheric precedent. when you realize that tuesday
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morning, yesterday morning, the judge felt compelled to appoint a special master to investigate fox's lapses, it's discovery violations, it's misstatements to the court, you know, if i were smartmatic's lawyers i would probably file something seeking sort of a prophylactic order that, you know what, judge? i think we'll need a special master, too, to make sure fox doesn't continue to violate the court's rules as it now has a track record of doing in other civil litigation it feels like the problems for fox have only just begun >> there are also the monetary issues dominion asked for $1.6 billion. they settled for $787.5 million. smartmatic is looking for more in damage. $2.7 billion do you think that smartmatic now smells blood in the water for a bigger settlement potentially?
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>> they sure do. look at how desperate fox was to settle the dominion suit i think that the same motivators that led them to decide to pay out more than three quarters of a billion dollars to dominion to make that defamation suit will drive their decision in the smartmatic litigation. there's a shareholders derivative suit going against the executives and officers of fox for not putting safeguards in place to protect against this kind of defamation you also have one of tucker carlson's producers, abby grossberg who is suing fox alleging they coerced her to make misrepresentations to try to protect the fox corporation you wonder if fox loses monetary judgment after monetary judgment, how long can they remain solvent, remain a going
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concern? >> they're not the only ones targeted dominion's legal campaign is not over they have pending defamation suits relating to false claims against the 2020 elections over newsmax, one america news net wok, overstock founder patrick byrne and others they have less resources than fox does, but are there still others who need to be worried? >> absolutely. dominion is in it for its own reasons. that is the damage that was done to dominion voting systems they're looking to be made whole. they're looking to repair the real harm that was done to dominion employees you know, a byproduct of this, chris, they are doing a public service. they're exposing not only lies, these are not cash ral lies.
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these are dangerous lies these are potentially democracy-busting lies being told by the respondents in these civil suits, all of which undermine the public's confidence in our election this, i think, is an important development and a good trend maybe this will have the effect of beginning to tamp down such lies and deter others from telling them >> glenn kirschner, always good to see you, my friend. president biden set to speak about the economy, sticking to his re-election strategy, draw a strong contrast with republicans. we have a live report coming up from the white house. plus republicans have now blocked democrats from replacing senator dianne feinstein on a key committee as she remains sidelined with health problems what do they do next you're watching "chris jansing reports" on msnbc. with us toni? -yeah. no. there's my little marzipan! [ laughs ] oh, my daughter gives the best hugs!
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a new reuters poll shows president biden's approval fell to 39% this month, close to the lowest level of his presidency he's about to again make his case, an economic case for re-election drawing a stark contrast for his vision for the future and house republicans i want to bring in kayla what can we expect to hear from the president? >> we expect president biden to say what he often says that
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these across the board spending cuts that republicans are proposing will affect every-day americans and will strip them from certain programs that benefit them he will also once again drill down on what he sees as the need to raise taxes on the wealthy and corporations to pay for many of think programs, drawing a stark contrast yet again between the plan that he has proposed and the plan that republicans are proposing. in that very wide-blank space between the two positions, there's little room for compromise as this months-long standoff over the debt ceiling continues. on one hand, you have president biden proposing a budget that sees significant spending increases paid for by higher taxes while the white house calls for a raising of the debt ceiling with no strings attached republicans on the other hand are saying all of those things are non-starters and they want to see some negotiation over spending cuts. there's very little room for
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agreement. the white house says a speech is not a plan and they want to see a plan from republicans even as house speaker kevin mccarthy prepares to put his proposal on the floor as early as next week. there is sort of a compromise that's emerging between the so-called problem solver's caucus in the house. i spoke to some people familiar with that plan, they say it's meant to be a last resort if the u.s. gets perilously close to defaulting we'll see how presid ceiling th afternoon. >> kevinmccarthy has been criticizing the president saying why aren't you notiegotiating w us he said right now that the
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president is skipping town rather than sitting down with us he is giving the debt limit the border treatment, ignore it and it will go away. >> i think there's an acknowledgment that they each have their own programs. they're both digging in their heels and there's political theater that both sides are engaging in. i think it will come to a head in the next few weeks. what will happen is once the treasury department learns how much money the government is making from tax revenues in the next few weeks, they'll know what the deadline is when washington is given a deadline, often that ignites a fire to get things done. watch for the treasury to put out a date and that could create
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more urgency in this situation >> yeah. sometimes they need a specific deadline thank you for that today senate democrats are increasingly running out of options regarding dianne feinstein. senate republicans blocked the democrats request to replace the 89-year-old senator on the judiciary committee while she recovers from shingles the top republican on the committee, lindsey graham explained the move saying this is about a handful of judges democrats can't get the votes for. what are you hearing the democrats think they can do now? >> there's not aloss they can do republicans have made it clear they will not allow a temporary replacement for dianne feinstein on the senate judiciary
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committee. even if it is tried through the 60-vote process, our reporting is the same result will take place. in the end, republicans will filibuster that move what can democrats do now? feinstein has been out for two months that means all of president biden's judicial nominees that lack support cannot move, get out of committee and on to the floor. within the last 24 hours, it looks like dick durbin is recalibrating here he has been holding off on moving this batch of judges from the senate committee to the floor. he's decided to move forward tomorrow on advancing certain judges that have republican support. that's according to a judiciary committee spokesperson he said republicans have given assurances to advance certain nominees out of committee. only the judicial nominees of president biden with republican support can move apart from that, feinstein can either come back, resume voting to advance the rest of them, they can stay out and hinder the
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nominees or resign and get replaced by another senator who would be added to these committees >> thank you very much appreciate that. what recourse do democrats have? there's no indication at all that diane feinstein will step down she's not running for re-election. what do they do? >> there's very little that democrats can do maybe they can do some things procedurally there's an informal rule called blue slips which allow votes on members that are -- judges favored by members of their own states maybe something you can do with that ruling or that informal rule, there's not much that can be done. a smart friend of mine who is an election lawyer, he put out something today saying that we need a 25th amendment for u.s. senators meaning in the ways that we have a 25th amendment rule for presidents who are incapacitated, can't serve in some way, shape or form, we need
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something for united states senatori s considering the amout of work that senators do and the way the senate majority is fragily in democratic hands. and to what extent do you put pressure on dianne feinstein a towering figure in u.s. politics, nationally colleagues don't want to put pressure on her. but a lot of democrats i talked to right now are remembering ruth bader ginsburg and, you know, thinking about whether or not obama should have put pressure on her to resign and potentially change course. there are issues of ageism in there, you don't want to get into that, but folks are -- >> for some people questions of sexism but i want to ask you about something else that could be impacted by dianne feinstein not
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being there. democrats are also considering a hearing about the ethics for supreme court justice clarence thomas, these undisclosed gifts previously, whether or not he should have reported them. if they need to issue an subpoena, there you go, you need dianne feinstein again do they need a hearing >> it absolutely needs a hearing. if you have republicans going to new york city about crime when crime rate is going down but you want to bring that circus here, we certainly should be talking more about how to hold justice clarence thomas accountable. they're leaning on justin roberts to do that the problem is the judiciary committee needs to do that unfortunately they are short one vote so, this is where it comes back
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to the work of the nat is so incredibly important every vote counts in this circumstance how do you push that along >> basil, always good to see you. a humanitarian crisis unfolding in sudan as refugees flee from military violence across the country we'll talk with someone working to help out next you're watching "chris jansing reports" only on msnbc finally we can eat. ♪ you know you make me wanna...♪ and then we looked around and said, wait a minute, this isn't even our stroller! (laughing) you live with your parents, but you own a house in the metaverse? mhm. cool...i don't get it. here's to getting financially ready for anything! and here's to being single and ready to mingle. who's ready to cha-cha?! ♪ yeah, yeah ♪ >> woman: why did we choose safelite? we were loading our suv when... crack! safelite came right to us,
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let's go live to maryland where president biden is speaking laying out his economic plan take a listen. >> who do you think it will hurt the most you, hard working people, the middle class, the neighborhoods i got raised in, not the super wealthy or the powerful, but working folks. that's what i want to talk about today. you know -- i know -- you know where i stand. i make no apologies for being the most pro-union president in american history it's not just because i grew up with y'all, it's because it's true you know, when i speak to the business roundtable, a lot of decent people, all the business enterprises, they look at me like -- guys, don't jump, okay all kidding aside, they look at me like why am i always talking about unions
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because they don't appreciate how hard y'all work, how hard it is for you to become something other than an apprentice it takes four years to train an apprentice i tell business leaders all the time that i'm pro union because union workers are the best workers in the world and you are the best -- not a joke that's the god's truth it's better long-term for them to hire you because you get the job done, get itdone on time and ultimately it costs them less when they hire you. i've said many times, wall street didn't build america. the middle class built america, and unions built the middle class. that's a fact. unions one of the reasons i ran for president is to rebuild the backbone of this country, the middle class to grow the economy from the middle out and the bottom up, not from the top down because
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when the middle class does well, the poor have a ladder up and the wealthy still do well. we middle class get a shot we do well as well that's a clear contrast to my friends on the other side of the aisle these days didn't used to be. didn't used to be, but it is now. for decades they said that the best way to grow the economy is from the top down, trickle down economics. growing up i didn't see a whole hell of a lot of trickle down in our three-bedroom house at my kitchen table. it didn't work for us. it's not just the maga republicans, for the last three, four decades we've been losing ground it's hollowed out the middle class. rewarding wealth, not work rewarding companies moving overseas because they get cheaper labor. a lot of you maybe come from neighborhoods or small towns,
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like scranton, pennsylvania, where i came from, claymont, delaware where i come from, there would be pride because we had business, factories working, operating. in scranton and claymont, there were 4,500 steel workers, there's none today not only do you lose the jobs, you lose a sense of pride, who you are. you begin to wonder does anyone see me i mean this sincerely. those of you from the midwest, towns that had factories employing 600, 800 people. you lose it, you lose everything how many of your friends you know of around the country have had this conversation, their son and daughter finishes education and high school and says mom, i can't stay there's no work. i got to move. i got to leave why does that -- why do these jobs go overseas because of cheap labor rather than making the product in america, we make it overseas.
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creating a wider economic inequity and along the way losing something else, as i said, pride. literally pride. it matters my dad never went to college my dad was a decent, honorable man. busted his neck. my dad would talk about everybody deserves to be treated with dignity recognize their self-worth i mean it sincerely. this is not a joke this is something i feel in my gut, not just my heart how many of you know what it's like growing up in a community where that factory does shut down in or the community gets hollowed out gets hollowed out literally. folks, trickle down economics doesn't work together we've been doing everything we can to turn things around with your help, one of the first things we did was pass the american rescue plan with not one of the other team voting for it
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helped vaccinate our nation to get our economy back on track and put small businesses back on track. it worked. then i signed the bipartisan infrastructure law making the case that to have the strongest economy in the world, we have to have the best infrastructure in the world. how in god's name can we lead the world with a second-rate infrastructure the best roads, the best bridges, the best airports, cleanest water, high-speed internet so much more can you believe we used to be the best infrastructure rated number one in the world? you know what we're rated now internationally? number 13. 13 in the world. the united states of america is rated 13 in the world. guess what that's where you come in, to get us back on top we announced 25,000 infrastructure projects so far over 4,500 citizen towns across
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the country ranging from airports, wind and solar projects, operating engineers are going to be the biggest groundbreaking for new and updated roads and bridges and so much more. lieutenant governor already grabbed me for one bridge already. there you are. i don't blame you. i told her, we view the eastern shore of maryland as the western shore of delaware. also the bidens all come from baltimore going all the way back to the early 100s. baltimore. you know, look, you're the ones who will -- this is not hyperbole, this is a fact. you'll transform america you. you operating engineers will transform america. it can't get done without you. without you, it can't get done there's certain things that are
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fact obvious. so when we rebuild america -- i mean literally rebuild america, we're going to buy american. i've gotten a lot of criticism bec because -- >> so, a folksy president biden who is at the international union of operating engineers, local 77 training center in maryland this is a place where he's extremely comfortable. this is a place where he likes to rif, as we just heard from him. but also to send the message that republicans are about wall street, we're about main street. let's bring back kayleigh mce he is talking like it's a campaign speech even though he's not officially running
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>> it's that announcement that we're all waiting for saying he has decided to run but has not announced it just yet. that back drop he's in front of now is important politically because as you mentioned this is folksy joe biden this is in his dna this is a contrast he's drawing between the democratic platform and the republicans platform he's speaking to union workers talking about his policies and suggesting that while he's talking to the every-day american, talking to main street that speaker kevin mccarthy in his speech on monday to the new york stock exchange was addressing wall street and large corporations president biden in the white house earlier today circulating a memo with some polling that supports their position noting two-thirds of respondents are concerned about the deficit, they're concerned about the level of debt in the country and that theybroadly support
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raising taxes on high earners to achieve those goals. in one report by ipsos, t19% sad you should cut spending to some of those other programs. the white house feels it has the wind at its back in this message and we'll see where the president takes this message in the coming weeks >> thank you very much for that. millions of people stuck in a growing humanitarian catastrophe in sudan i'll speak with someone who is trying to provide aid to those in serious trouble you're watching "chris jansing reports" on msnbc. they just piled it on. roast beef, ham, oven roasted turkey. all on the subway club. three peat - that's great. three meat - that's epic. the subway series. the greatest menu of all time.
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hi, i'm katie, i've lost 110 pounds 50 years or older? on golo in just over a year. golo is different than other programs i had been on because i was specifically looking for something that helped with insulin resistance. i had had conversations with my physician indicating that that was probably an issue that i was facing and making it more difficult for me to sustain weight loss. golo has been more sustainable. i can fit it into family life, i can make meals that the whole family will enjoy. it just works in everyday life as a mom. millions of people are sheltering for safety in sudan in the middle of a growing humanitarian catastrophe many without water and power as
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rival military factions fight for a fifth straight day nearly 300 people have been killed already 3,000 have been injured. there are new homes of a truce as the sudanese army agreed to a 24-hour cease-fire offered by its rival paramilitary group, but it's not clear whether they will abide by it the two sides agreed to a u.s.-brokered cease-fire yesterday almost to have that fall apart immediately joining me is abdullah hussein with doctors without borders, the operational manager for sudan. what are you hearing about the situation on the ground in country and the medical challenges in particular >> thank you very much for having me. the situation on the ground is very very difficult. it's a dire, humanitarian situation, as you described. it was four days of intense fighting in the capital of
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sudan. there's some states in the west of the country there are many people that are affected we observed this in the areas where we are present for example, in the west of the country, wounded patients are arriving in our facility that we support there. in khartoum, the city is trapped in their homes for many hours unable to have freedom of movement to look for medical care >> we know the u.n. world food program suspended operations in the country after three of its employees were killed. how does your organization balance the safety of your workers with what is clearly the sheer magnitude of need in a situation like this? >> we engage with the different parts of the conflict. we dialogue with them to ensure
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that they respect the pass cage, safe passage of humanitarian workers to reach people in need. in the case of sudan, we had a difficulty in the last days because of the intensity of the conflict and because of the fighting so intense and happening in an urban area, like khartoum, that it was very difficult for staff or organizations to reach us and assess the needs and to supply the resources and medical products we've been in contact with the minister of health's staff, that are working day and night to care for the wounded in different places but they are running short of supplies, medical supplies the hospitals are running short of fuel. some of the hospitals in khartoum, were also subject of the violence itself. >> much of the fighting has been in the capital you talked about some of the other places
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talk about the sort of -- the challenges when you're looking at rural areas and the need there as well. we work in the north of the country. the northwest. it's a town where we support the hospital this hospital has received over 200 wounded in the last days these are civilians, they include children, they include women. they were caught in the crossfire when they were doing their normal things. the difficulty we had was to reach the hospital itself. we have already personnel that were placed there that had to get there, they could not reach there to care for the patients we had to resupply the hospital,
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the fighting led to restrictions in getting to the hospital unfortunately 30 died there. we are trying to make sure those who arrive at the hospital are cared for. the fighting was still happening today. it depends on the time of the day. sometimes we have access to the hospital, sometimes we're cut off. we're trying to scale up and we already moved some to a general hospital that cares for the needs. another challenge is all the hospitals are shut down, except the one where we're working. they're close to where the fighting was happening or because of some of them were subject to looting >> doctors without boarders an extraordinary, thank you for taking the time. our thoughts are with the folks who are there working. that's going to do it for us this hour. join us for "chris jansing reports" 1:00 to
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