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and killed while riding in a car. quote, i would have never dreamed in a million years this would happen that is what's happening now in america. just two devastating new examples, young victims doing everyday things, playing basketball in the driveway or sitting on a bench, then shot. both of them among the 99 shootings across america on tuesday and wednesday alone. ch plus, earlier today, house republicans considered passing a bill that would ban transgender athletes from competing against women. what it means for athletes and for politics in 2023. and the spacex starship, the most powerful rocket ever built explodes and crashes to earth just four minutes into its maiden flight. so why was everyone cheering we'll explain coming up. but we start with new additions to the unrelenting depravity of senseless shootings plaguing this country. the ones we told you about yesterday sparked by innocent mistakes the ones today targeting people for no reason at all, fueling
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fears that nowhere is safe, not in your car, not even in your own front yard in north carolina, a 6-year-old was hit in the face by bullet fragments. her father shot in the back by a neighbor, a i ppparently becaush girl's basketball rolled into his yard. >> why did she shoot my daddy and me shoot a kid's dad. >> the suspect in that case, robert louis singletary is still on the loose being hunted by police in maine, a man freshly released from prison allegedly shot and killed his parents and two of their friends, then began firing ran domly at passing car on i-295 a father and his two adult children were hit. his daughter is in critical condition. the suspect in court this morning. in downtown columbus, a man was shot in the face while just walking alone, and in philadelphia, a teenager was
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shot in the back by a masked gunman while he sat on a bench outside a rec center taken together, all of these incidents plus the recent shootings of ralph yarl, kaylin gi gillis, and payton washington paint a horrifying picture of a nation grappling with a toxic mixture of hate and anger and a population increasingly armed to the teeth. >> we are becoming a heavily armed nation so fearful and angry and hair trigger anxious that gun murders are now just the way in which we work out our frustrations this is a dystopia, and i'm here to tell you that it's a dystopia that we've chosen for ourselves. >> senator murphy will join me in just a few minutes. but first i'm joined by jackie mundry with wcsh in maine, nbc's maggie vespa is covering the latest out of liberty, missouri.
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and eddie glaude jr. joins me as well, princeton university professor, and an msnbc political analyst. i want to start with what senator murphy just said, it's not just guns. it's the way we treat each other, the way we see each other that's contributing to this. is that a through line you see with all of these incidents? >> absolutely. our understanding of the common good has fractured we don't have one, i think we're all kind of siloed there are those who fall within the sphere of our moral concern, and there are those who have been completely othered. and then you add to that mixture -- and i think the dystopian, i think that's the right word that senator murphy used, that dystopian reality, you add that just the proliferation of guns and you get this horror. you get this terror it seems to me. >> jackie multiple crime scenes in maine, allegedly perpetrated by one man and the 165th mass shooting this year alone in this country. what can you tell us about what happened there where you are
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>> reporter: hey, chris, joseph eaton is that man being charged with four murders. he actually just appeared in court here a couple of hours ago, and he faces four counts of murder like i said, he has a lengthy criminal history that dates back to 2008. he's been convicted of felonies both here in maine as well as in florida and kansas he was serving a two-year sentence for aggravated assault at the maine correctional center and was just released last friday his parents, who were not living locally, say they were staying with family and friends in bo bowden, maine, while they waited for joseph's sentence to end three days after he was released, his parents david and cynthia eaton, and their friends were found dead in the eager's home patricia's sister lisa shay text ds her about 8:30 on tuesday morning saying she was going to stop by to pick up a sweatshirt she left there, but she never heard back from her sister she stopped by anyway and she
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found the body of a man who she believed was her brother-in-law in the kitchen that body was covered with a towel. according to court documents, lisa went sooutside and called police and waited for police to arrive on scene. at that time her sister and the easthe eatons were not croaccounted fo. after that a 911 call came in that someone was shooting at cars about 25 miles away from the crime scene. three people were injured and a stretch of the highway was shut down for the majority of the day on tuesday this caused traffic to pile up across southern maine. victims in the highway shooting with a father and his two adult children, shawn, justin and paige hallsly. he's so thankful for medical staff who helped him and his family his daughter, paige, does remain in critical condition. as for joseph eaton, he remains behind bars until his trial.
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>> thank you eddie, one of the things that has to strike you when you look at so many of these victims, they were young. kaylin gillis was 20, payton washington, 18, ralph yarl 16, the boy shot in philadelphia, 15 the girl in north carolina was 6. i want to play a little more about what happened from our nbc affiliate in charlotte, wcnc >> ashley hildebrand said her husband and 6-year-old daughter were the two people shot hildebrand was grazed by a bullet >> it was very scary my daughter actually got to come home last night, late last night. she just had a bullet fragment in her cheek still scary. but my husband, he's still in the hospital he's in trauma i'm doing the best i can i just wish they'd catch this guy. >> reporter: jonathan robertson said he had just taken his kids inside when the shots rang out >> as soon as i saw him coming out shooting, i was hollering at everybody to get down and get inside. >> reporter: he says this all stepped from kids playing and a
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basketball rolling into the suspect's yard >> that's it, a little kid playing basketball we've said it before, eddie. this is a generation that's going to grow up never knowing anything but these relentless day after day after day shootings, drills in their schools. how is this going to affect fe them >> well, you know, they've grown up with cascading crises, one after the other, and they've concluded, many of them, at least my students have, many of them, that our society is broken and that they are -- and in drawing that conclusion, chris, they are open to reaching for different languages, new ways of imagining our being together i think one of the interesting things that we have to kind of grapple with in this moment is that guns added to the reality that we're not well, that america is broken, we're not well you can't come through what we've been through, and i'm talking about a million plus --
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of covid i'm talking about all of the kind of intense partisan bi bitterness that has defined our lives for well over a tech cade n -- decade now, you can't come through this and be all right, and then you add guns to that. look at that little baby asking the question why would you shoot a child's daddy. think about those 9-year-olds in tennessee. or think about louisville. we just go down the line i'm going to buffalo this weekend, chris this weekend for a gala to honor ms. whittaker who was massacred in buffalo i mean, this is what we're dealing. >> well, maggie, now i have to ask you to take us to missouri we finally saw andrew lester in court. he pleaded not guilty to the shooting of ralph yarl, what was his defense? >> chris, that is the perfect way to ask that question because, as you know, we've had people on social media saying, wait a minute, he's pleading not guilty is there a question as to who did this from what we know, the answer is no
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investigators, police, prosecutors, and according to court documents, lester himself all say absolutely, he shot 15-year-old ralph yarl twice thursday night according to those court documents, the 84-year-old homeowner said he did it because he thought the 16-year-old black missouri boy was trying to break into his house he says that yarl, again, 16-year-old old there, his family sent to pick up his two little brothers but mistakenly went to the wrong home lester says ralph rang the door bell, and this is key, he says he jiggled the door handle, and that's when andrew lester, the homeowner in this case says he believes someone was breaking in he was, quote, scared to death he opened the door and fired two shots. ralph was shot in the head and arm. he's basically recovering at home, miraculously having survived recovering at home from a traumatic brain injury and a cracked skull. we have this plea of not guilty yesterday. we have family members of andrew lester speaking out overnight,
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and his ex-wife telling t"the nw york times" unfortunately this does not surprise her. she says during their 14-year marriage he was prone to fits of rage, and she told "the times" he would smash things when he got angry. also, two of andrew lester's grandsons talking to the independent one telling the kansas city star that his grandfather lives in a 24-hour news cycle of fear and paranoia and talked about a lot of far right conservative media outlets that sort of deliver a lot of rhetoric tied to things like standing your ground and the need to defend your home one of the other grandsons telling the independent his grandfather would say disparaging things about black people, gay people, and immigrants unfortunately both grandsons kind of echoing what the ex-wife of andrew lester said, that this unfortunately did not surprise them and chris, as you know, an update late yesterday, the yarl family, the family of the
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16-year-old boy home recovering from these gunshot wounds now pushing for a federal hate crime -- a federal hate crime investigation, the yarl family attorney saying that he was armed only that night with his black skin chris. >> so eddie, let me add one more component to this, and it comes to us via "the washington post." i want to read it. lester said the teenager was a black male approximately 6 feet tall, several inches off yarl's actual height according to the criminal complaint lester stated it was the last thing he wanted to do but he was scared to death due to the male's size. the article goes on to say, in multiple studies, people who were asked to judge the size of black people tended to see black men as bigger and stronger and than they actually were and gave black children the attributes of adults the result, researchers say, is that they're seen as more dangerous. i mean, 12-year-old tamir rice comes to mind among many others.
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how do we as a society, eddie, address that because this 16-year-old kid did nothing but find himself a block away from where he wanted to go. >> right, so what do we do when hatred is combined with guns what do we do when fear and grievance combine with guns. first of all, we have to remove guns, deadly weapons from the equation, and then we have to address in some ways, chris, the corruption of the soul that's at the heart of this, right not only do we have the grandsons and the ex-wife describing the 84-year-old man, but i'm actually as well horrified by the neighbors >> yeah. >> here you have a 16-year-old baby knocking on doors told to get on the ground, to put up his hands. that's a corruption of the heart that cuts to the center of the country. and so what do we do about that? we have to -- we have to begin to understand more clearly what is our conception of our community? what is the moral sense that
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binds you to me, if you can't see a human being in a child, if you can't see a child for a child, what does that say about you? we have to address the monstrosity that is our society at this moment that's being evidenced every single day with these senseless murders. >> eddie glaude, maggie vespa, thank you both so much for having this conversation. connecticut senator chris murphy is now calling gun violence a, quote, dystopia that we've chosen for ourselves you heard him say it don't miss my conversation with him later this hour. first, house republicans just passed a controversial bill that will go nowhere in the senate, so what political message are they sending we're back in 60 seconds (vo) sail through the heart of historic cities and unforgettable scenery with viking. unpack once, and get closer to iconic landmarks, local life, and cultural treasures. because when you experience europe on a viking longship,
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explicitly on someone's genetics at birth it passed along party lines in the house, and is expected to go nowhere in the democratically controlled senate. this is what kevin mccarthy said right after the bill passed. >> today is a great day for america, for fairness for families and most importantly for female athletes. house republicans pledged before o america to protecteir women and girls in sports. today we kept that promise >> nbc's garrett haake is on capitol hill for us. also with me former new york democratic congressman max rose. garrett, what are you hearing from lawmakers there as they pass this bill >> well, look, republicans believe this is an issue of fairness as mccarthy said there. it's also something they ran on going back to even the glenn youngkin win in virginia more than a year ago now. and they think it's a politically poignant issue with suburban voters. let's just listen to how elise stefanik described the vote
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today at that same news conference. >> growing up, i myself played varsity lacrosse to have that opportunity to learn leadership, to learn discipline, to learn team work is so, so important. so this is about protecting women's sports now and into the future, and we anticipate this will been passed today and it is a winning issue across america standing up for the future of women and girls. >> reporter: democrats, as you point out, say this bill is not going anywhere it won't go anywhere in the senate joe biden wouldn't sign it if it somehow did. it's not even going to be put on the floor. democrats call this bill creepy. they say how would you enforce this is somebody going to go around and check to see who's a biological female and who's not. more to the point, it puts a target on the back of transgender people, some of the most vulnerable people, particularly transgender children in society, and they don't think it's appropriate at all to go this route, but, you know, look, the future of this bill stops here, but for republicans it's a talking point
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at a key issue they believe for their voters. >> i want to go into that a little more, congressman republicans did know this wasn't going to become law. they knew it wasn't going to get through the senate what's the political advantage they say >> first of all, let's consider how significant this is in terms of how unprecedented it is the house of representatives has never even considered a bill to ban transgender rights, and the house republican caucus does this amidst a widespread movement calling on the congress to address, let it in our schools, calling on them to address a crisis in rural education. calling on them to address the rampant issue of gun violence in our schools, there are still bloodstains in many elementary and high schools all across the united states of america, so why is the republican party doing this because they see an electoral pathway for themselves through divisiveness, causing disarray, in fact, even inciting hate and potentially violence against a group in the united states of america who is already heavily
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discriminated against, rates of suicide amongst transgender youth are skyrocketing, and i do not believe in the end -- and there's evidence for this -- that this is a sound electoral strategy, but what i do know is that their base, the republican base, which is entirely centered right now around grievance, anger, and, yes, hatred, they widely support this. >> so there are i think at least 20 states now that have similar bills on a statewide basis north carolina is looking at one right now. one argument that they make, first of all, there are actually bills, i think it's in the north carolina bill that men and women are inherently different they say that banning tr trans athletes protects the rights of cis gender athletes. genetic males are stronger than women. another that biological women playing men's sports can be dangerous. i want to play what congresswoman nancy mace had to say. >> i'm a girl mom. also my girl is an athlete
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i cannot imagine her having to be put this that position where there is a biological male in her locker room or if she's trying to compete for a college scholarship that it gets taken away by a man who's much stronger and has much greater physical capabilities than she does >> so their argument, this is about fairness and safety. >> well, if you look at what the democratic leadership is saying in response to this, it is that there is deserving to be a nuanced approach throughout the nation, but what there shouldn't not be is a hate-filled, hate-driven approach at the national level, which is purely designed to divide, purely designed to incite hatred and anger towards a minority group in the united states of america, which already is being heavily targeted with hatred and violence that's what this bill is all about. as you said at the beginning of this segment, this stands zero chance of ever passing the senate, zero chance rightfully
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so of the president ever signing it they are still messaging this ahead of trying to do anything substantive in a bipartisan way to actually help the american people because they want to make people angry, and they want to lie to them because they believ that is their only electoral strategy because they want to distract people from the fact that they have zero solutions to actually any real substantive problems. >> max rose, you're going to be sticking around, garrett haake, as always, thank you so much my friend meanwhile, in russia, the bolshoi theater has dropped a ballet about a famous dancer citing a new russian law that expands restrictions on promoting lgbtq rights that new ban on any, quote, demonstration of non-traditional relations has the theater pulling the ballet because it touches on the dancer's homosexuality. the 2024 money race
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the supreme court has until tomorrow to decide whether a key abortion pill used by millions of women to terminate early pregnancies should remain available nationwide the justices on wednesday extended a temporary pause that they had put on an appeals court decision the decision that could prevent
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patients from obtaining mifepristone in the mail for now, this means patients can still access the pill as this legal battle continues and right now the 2024 presidential campaign money race is ramping up. it's an early indicator of the depth of support for any candidate, just follow the money. president biden invited top democratic donors to washington next week ahead of his official re-election bid. governor ron desantis's allies are expanding the role of his super pac, never back down and right now while nikki haley is attracting some big bucks donors, the surprise factor could be senator tim scott, a likely candidate, who would potentially start his campaign with more cash on hand than even former president trump i want to bring in nbc news white house correspondent mike memoli, "washington post" senior national political correspondent ashley parker is here. she is also an msnbc political analyst, former congressman max rose is back as well tell us more about this meeting
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between president biden and some top donors next week >> well, chris, four years ago at this time one of the big questions about a biden candidacy was whether he'd be able to raise enough money first to be competitive in a crowded democratic primary, and then ultimately to take on then president donald trump in the general election well, what happened? president biden ended up raising more than a billion dollars, all mainly powered by small dollar donations, and he did that without ever having in the general election to hold an in-person fundraiser because of the pandemic now, this is going to be a different campaign under a different set of rules in anticipation of his bid for a second term, we are reporting that president biden is going to be gathering with some of his top financial supporters next week here in washington. the invitations went out really to not necessarily for a campaign fundraiser but as an opportunity to hear about the road ahead the timing of this, of course, chris, is significant because we've all been looking at late april, especially after that
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trip to ireland as a potential real window for the president's long-awaited announcement of hhi intentions he's been clear about his intention to run, saying the decision had been made, but just a matter of whether they're going to announce it we're all sort of on standby here as the president's potential re-election campaign takes shape, and it's important to have him courting those big dollar donors as well as the small dollar donors who are, again, going to be key towards his re-election campaign as well >> as we stand by for that, ashley, you've got new reporting on this desantis superpac, what are they up to >> historical context helps to start, after the citizens united decision in 2010, sort of every election cycle campaigns try to have their super pac take on a larger and larger role, and so we're seeing sort of the outer edge of this with ron desantis where, again, he doesn't have an official campaign yet and where
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his super pac is shaping up to really be almost a de facto campaign not just doing one arm of what you might expect a super pac to do such as advertising, attacking his rivals, or boosting his name recognition, but really they're doing things so far at least that you associate with a traditional presidential campaign. they're organizing on college campuses they're hiring people in the early primary states in iowa, for instance, they're the ones who are sort of getting names at events and organizing, knocking on doors, and so you are seeing sort of the forefront to which a candidate or a likely candidate ron desantis is betting that his super pac can all but supplant the duties of a traditional republican campaign. >> it is so interesting. t take a look at this. they sent out a five-page mailer in iowa, and nevada making the case for governor desantis's
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nomination one line reads ron desantis has never lost an election and is republicans' best chance to beat joe biden and socialist democrats in the 2024 presidential election. they're kind of old school, but maybe more effective than one might think, especially with older dependable voters, right it also allows pretty targeted focus on who you want to get them what's your take on this early approach as an introduction to desantis >> first of all, with mail, even if you're throwing it out, you have to rook at it that's one of the reasons why some campaigns prefer it. >> people sometimes get so little mail these days, it's like a treat. >> it's like a treat, particularly when you get a five-page booklet. first of all, i think this super pac is verging on illegal at this point because the desantis is delaying announcing his campaign, which enables him to actually coordinate with this super pac because he's not yet a campaign but what's shocking is you take a step back here is the degree to which the entire republican
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primary field is ignoring the evidence of what their base actually wants their base wants a brawler someone who's going to fight the establishment, fight the democratic party, and they are whimpering around, tiptoeing around desantis is a baby who's fighting mickey mouse. nikki haley's a weather veane. and all of them are afraid to fight donald trump, and you see donald trump's poll numbers going up and up and up joe biden -- >> even after the indictment. >> especially after the indictment so president biden sees this his campaign sees this, and what they're all collectively saying is let's not rush to announce. let's let them do what they're doing. donald trump's chances get better and better with each day, and we will stay back, be presidential, be leaders, and i think that's actually the most effective strategy they have. >> there's something else out there, ashley, which is i never cease to be amazed by the amount of money now that is spent in
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campaigns, right even local campaigns, but presidential let's say they all raise a ton of money well, you know what? donald trump set a record that's unlikely ever to be matched, and that is unpaid media so these other foelks are going to raise money, buy tv ads, send out glossy, five-page mailer is there any amount of money that lets you challenge the former president in terms of media. frankly, even negative news seems to help him, what would traditionally be considered negative news. >> right, and to be clear, we have not seen another candidate who is sort of buoyed by negative news, but in reporting this desantis super pac story, that is one thing i heard all the time you cannot replace earned media. earned media is the most value valuable media while super pacs are available and you would rather have one than not have one, there's limits to what a super pac can do, even in terms of ad rates, in terms of spending tv stations charge super pacs,
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those sorts of groups, more money than they charge a presidential campaign. a super pac dollar while it's often easy to raise that money while a reawealthy do nor can ca check, those dollars are not as valuable the most valuable is earned media. that comes from the candidate, the campaign side. among republicans there is no one who has mastered earned media better than the former president. >> so true as per usual, ashley parker, mike memoli, former congressman max rose, thank you all so much. appreciate it. up exnext, a local newspape in oklahoma has released the full audio recording that's led one county official to step down you're watching "chris jansing reports" only on msnbc that's why you choose vmware. with flexible multi-cloud services that enable digital innovation and enterprise control, vmware helps you keep your cloud options open.
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it might look and sound like a failure, but we're being told hold on. spacex just tested its most powerful rocket ever the starship, designed for missions to the moon and mars. the rocket fell short of reaching space seen here exploding just minute ts after launch amid cheers from employees. spacex quality systems engineer kate tice characterized it as a success. >> i do want to remind everyone that everything after clearing the tower was icing on the cake. >> elon musk says they learned
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from this mission tweeting that the launch taught them a lot ahead of their next test in a few months. thanks to the reporting of one small print only local newspaper we now have the full audio release of a meeting that's put an oklahoma county at the center of a nationwide racism controversy during three hours and 37 minutes of audio just published, the mccurtain gazette says county officials threatened black people making multiple refrpss to possible violence the chairman discussed lynching black men has already resigned here's his handwritten resignation letter to the governor citing, quote, the recent events in our county. nbc's steven romo is following this for us. what's on this recording what more can you tell us, steven >> yeah, chris ca lot of disturbing things on this recording released by the newspaper, along with that discussion of lynching, there was also discussion of hiring hitmen and digging holes
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it just seems to get worse and worse. we do want to point out nbc news has not been able to infe independently verify this audio. in fact, the sheriff's office had claimed it had been altered, but that was before the full three and a half hours had been released here's more of what's on those tapes. >> i'm going to tell you something, if it was back in the day, when that when alan marshton would take a damn black guy and whoop their ass and throw him in the cell, i'd run for bleep bleen sheriff. well, it's not like that no more i know, take them down to mud creek. >> you can hear there just the disturbing sort of looking back fondly on times when lynching were more common in the country. it just gets more disturbing from there, chris. >> have we heard from any of the other officials the gazette says were in on that meeting and made some comments? >> we very much want to. we've reached out to them trying to get more of a comment from them we did see that post that i mentioned from the sheriff on
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facebook sort of saying that these tapes had been altered we are hearing from other officials including the mayor of the county seat of mccurtain county where this happened, joining the governor in calling all of the people involved, the three remaining to step down from these positions as well there's been a huge outcry from the community. there's been protests. the protesters are planning on meeting this weekend to discuss what they can do more to try to get these people to step down after these very disturbing remarks. >> nbc's steven romo, thank you for that. up next, my conversation with connecticut senator chris murphy on what he calls the toxic mixture of hate, anger, and deadly weapons in the u.s. and next hour, florida has expanded its so-called don't say gay law. what it means for schools in that state you're watching "chris jansing reports" only on msnbc diabetes can serve up a lot of questions, like, "what is your glucose?" and "can you have more carbs?" before you decide... with the freestyle libre 2 system know your glucose level and where it's headed.
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more than 5,000 people have been shot and killed already this year in the u.s., including andrew gillis's daughter kaylin. she was 20 years old, a budding artist with dreams of working with animals when she was shot and killed for pulling into the wrong driveway on wednesday her dad broke down as he tried to make sense of what happened. >> going to a friend's house, you know, for a get together, that's -- i would never have dreamed in a million years that
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this would happen. if anything i'm thankful for is that i got to tell her that i loved her before she walked out the door. >> i want to bring in connecticut democratic senator chris murphy, a relentless advocate for strengthening gun laws over the past decade. every time we talk unfortunately, senator, it's times like this and what really strikes people about this recent rash of shootings is the fact that the suspects are so quick to resort to using a gun you were on the senate floor, you referred to it as casual violence why do you think it's become so prevalent? >> so i do think it's important for us to understand that while we are talking about this latest series of tragic shootings, stories like that happen in the united states every single day i'm not sure that these are any more tragic or any more disturbing than shootings that happened two weeks before or
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three weeks before for whatever reason this country has honed in on these three or four shootings they are awful they happen every single day because we have a population today that is living on the edge people who feel deeply frustrated with their lives, people who have been midwifed into extremist groups, who have been fed hateful rhetoric, who have been told to mistrust their neighbors, and those same people are armed to the hilt. so we have this toxic combination in this country of hate, of distrust, of exhaustion, and very powerful weapons, and every single day, every single day in this country it results in people getting shot for no reasons, small reasons, stupid reasons, things that used to result in just some mean words being exchanged or maybe a punch being thrown today
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results in gun shots being fired because the level of hate and fear and anxiety is at a fever pitch but also the number of weapons out there in the united states of america is also at a record number. >> yeah, we talked at the beginning of the show about a 6-year-old girl playing in her driveway with a basketball that rolled into the neighbor's yard, and then she and her dad both -- well, he took a bullet she had shrapnel in her face you also brought up, senator, the issue of loneliness. is that a peiece of the puzzle you think isn't getting enough attention these days if so, is it left over from covid? guns are just everywhere >> so i've been talking a lot about this epidemic of loneliness and aloneness in america. i think we just have to start talking about the way that we feel i think that's important because there is more aloneness and loneliness than ever before, and i do think it's driving violence rates, more so suicides than
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homicides, but i also think it's a way for us to have an apolitical conversation. if you start talking about gun policy, then a lot of people just line up on the right, and a lot of people line up on the left if we start talking about the way in which we feel, a lack of control over our lives, lives, a feeling of disconnection, then i think you could start to build solution sets that bring us together i always hesitate to explain gun violence through the prism of psychology or mental illness because there's plenty of people feeling very lonely in japan and france and great britain, but they don't have the epidemic of suicide or homicide. we decide to put on top of the way we feel easy access to guns, and that's really the story of our gun violence epidemic, not the way we feel but the decision to give people easy access to the most lethal means possible, firearms. >> so what can be done, senator? because if congress isn't going to move on this, and you know
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better than anybody and joe biden said it right out loud, we're not going to have major change with the makeup of congress that we have right now. is there a different way to address these issues, cultural issue, loneliness issues, frustration issues and have it matter in a way that starts to change the every day individual, if it's not going to be legislated. >> so this shooter in kansas city, the guy who shot at the 16-year-old who showed up at the wrong door, you know, there's testimony to suggest that he was caught in a web of sort of really divisive speech, whether it was fox news or other outlets. he was -- had become a deeply mistrustful guy because he had bought into all of these conspiracy theories. we can have a conversation about that in this conversation that united left and right. let's talk about why our social
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media companies, why those platforms very quickly send us down deep dark rabbit holes in which we're taught to fear our neighbors. that's a conversation where there's interest on the right and on the left. in particular, shielding our kids from those deep dark rabbit holes, so i'm going to continue to fight for an assault weapons ban. i'm going to continue to fight to have universal background checks i think that's the most significant and most immediately impactful way to reduce gun violence rates i'm going to find areas of common ground with republicans to sort of address the ways that we are separated from each other, the ways in which we are taught to fear each other. >> and i think people will take away from this among the many things thaut you said, this is not unique, what you have seen over the past three days is part of a trend, and it's long past time that we talk about it and address it senator chris murphy, we thank you for taking the time to talk with us. much appreciated. >> thank you. and up next, planning to fly
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if you're planning to fly this summer, you're going to want to hear this pause it's one more pretty significant reason that we've got another challenging travel season ahead. here's nbc's tom costello with
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why. >> reporter: count down to the summer get away, and don't expect an open middle seat it's shaping up to be another season of crowded airports and packed planes. >> good morning, how you doing >> i'm good. >> reporter: the head of the tsa tells bloomberg the agency is preparing for a record number of air passengers throughout the summer comfortably above pre-pandemic numbers. with airports in orlando, dallas, houston, and east coast hubs all expected to be the busiest. with demand surging, american airlines is joining delta and united in temporarily cutting back some flights into new york airports, citing air traffic controller shortages it follows a nationwide pilot shortage, which has been easing in recent months as the major carriers ramp up hiring and training still many regional airlines are struggling to find enough pilots as some in the industry call for changing pilot qualification and training standards to address the shortage
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the head of the airline pilots association says that is a nonstarter >> this is no time to weaken safety standards >> reporter: we visited united's flight training center in denver last year where the airline trains new and veteran pilot around the clock >> you're hitting the wind sheer a little bit, so. >> wind sheer, going around. >> reporter: the faa requires pilots to go through simulator training every nine months, honing their skills and preparing for the unlikely emergency. meanwhile, pressure is building on southwest airlines after that technical glitch on tuesday caused a nearly 2,500 airline flights to be delayed. southwest says data connection issues were to blame >> 90% of our flights have been cancelled. >> reporter: it follows the meltdown last december when out outdated systems led to more than 16,000 of its flights being canceled, 2 million passengers stranded, so what can you do to prepare for travel this summer, given flights are filling up,
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experts say buy your tickets now. hopper.com reports domestic summer air fares will be 18% more expensive than in 2019 pre-pandemic tom costello, nbc news. and on that happy note, we've got a lot to cover in our second hour of "chris jansing reports," let's get right to it. ♪ at this hour, fatal storms three people are dead in oklahoma after tornadoes ripped through the middle of the country leaving so much destruction behind the latest on the path of the storms and the millions under advisories still today plus, back on set, alec baldwin's movie rust just restarted filming for the first time in 18 months after the fatal shooting of cinematographer halyna hutchins, the changes made to the production. plus, the florida board of education just

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