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don't say gay education ban to all grades, and inside the debt ceiling show down. house speaker kevin mccarthy is trying to sell his new debt limit that aims to cut major parts of president biden's agenda does he have the votes inside his own party to get it passed our nbc news reporters are following all of the latest developments and we start on capitol hill where house speaker kevin mccarthy is trying to sell his new bill to increase the debt limit and cut government spending to avoid defaulting on the country's debt for the first time in american history nbc's capitol hill correspondent ali vitali joins me know first of all, how close are we to the debt ceiling and what's the plan >> reporter: look, we've got a few weeks still, chris, but we watched the first meeting happen between speaker kevin mccarthy and president joe biden more than 70 days ago, and since then, it's been pretty party line posturing since then. and that's making some people pretty worried, especially when you consider the fact that the only thing that both sides can agree on is that the u.s. should

absolutely not set a new precedent and for the first time ever, default on its debt. we have seen the white house put out their budget proposal. they have been clear on the democratic side. they want to do this as a clean debt ceiling hike, making the delineation between the fact that the debt ceiling is about money that has already been spent, versus conversations about a budget or about things th that have yet to be spent. they want this to be clean and deal with the budget after that. on the republican side, we know what the opening gambit looks like, repealing things democrats were able to pass in the last congress, enforcement funding, student loan debt forgiveness, and rescinding unspent pandemic relief funds states may not have used those yet but it is very unlikely they're going to give up that federal money without a fight. nevertheless, that is where republicans are at least starting to put this, and here's how speaker kevin mccarthy put it to us

he said it's fine if republicans might look like they're struggling in the short-term because he's optimistic about how this is going to turn out. watch. >> i think we're in very good shape. we rolled it out yesterday i want you to write stories, whether i'm teetering, whether i can win or not, and the whole world hangs in the balance, and then i want you to write a story when it passes, would the president sit down and negotiate. >> reporter: mccarthy is trying to do this next week we know they're in a period of working for in week and next week and they're going on recess again. republicans trying to move quickly there. no surprise, the biden white house is firing back with their own statement saying mccarthy is siding with the extreme maga wing of his party here in putting out these priorities, at least in this first opening salvo. in florida, they have expanded the controversial don't say gay law at the request of governor desantis. gabe gutierrez is following this for us

what's been the reaction >> reporter: a lot going on here in tallahassee as an advocacy organization is now trying to organize a student walkout tomorrow of high school and college students to protest what it calls the quote authoritarian takeover of the education administration by the desantis administration, and as you said, the florida department of education approving that extension of the parental rights in education act, which is called the don't say gay bill from just banning classroom instruction of sexual orientation and gender identity of kindergarten through 3rd grade, now extending that all the way through 12th grade, unless the instruction is required by state statute or part of a reproductive health class. lgbtq rights organizations are furious. they say free states do not wage war on lgbtq people to score cheap political points for a man desperate to be president. shame on the desantis administration for putting a target on the backs of lgbtq

floridians a spokesperson for the department of education in florida says this is all about prevents quote indoctrination in schools. that's something we keep hearing over and over again from republicans here, and from the desantis administration. the truth is that democrats can't do much, at least here in the legislature, they're simply out numbered and republicans are now focused on running up the score, essentially, passing bills on expanding gun rights, school vouchers, abortion restrictions, culture war issues over the coming weeks as the legislative session wraps up back to you. >> thank you for that. right now, actor and producer alec baldwin's movie "rust" has resumed filming in montana after the fatal shooting of halyna hutchins shaquille brewster is following this for us. what are we expecting there? >> reporter: it's a closed set we're not expecting to see or hear anything from the

yellowstone filming ranch. the resumption of production is the result of a settlement agreement with alec baldwin and matthew hutchins he's an executive producer alec baldwin is the actor and co-producer. two sources close to the production tells nbc news this is expected to last about three weeks, between 20 and 25 days. the production has been moved from new mexico where the fatal shooting occurred to montana, and they describe it as almost a tribute to halyna. they're saying much of the cinematography that she was a part of will be preserved and used in the final product. as this is taking place and filming is resuming, the legal trouble that alec baldwin is facing is still very much there. he's facing a criminal charge of involuntary manslaughter for her death. there's a pretty extensive preliminary hearing set to take place in about two weeks, just under two weeks in new mexico.

if you look at court documents, it appears that he will not be at the site of that hearing, the judge approving his request to waive his right to be at that hearing. he will be filming as that's happening, you'll still see the focus on the criminal prosecution chris. >> shaq brewster, thanks for that. new warnings affecting 50 million people that more storms could rip through the central u.s. today, and officials are, in fact, urging people to shelter in place emilie ikeda has more. >> we're getting a better sense of the path of devastation left by the series of tornadoes that played out across parts of the midwest. the pictures, they are really just stunning to see mangled messes of downed trees and power lines, still, nearly 20,000 people in oklahoma alone without power. some of the most substantial damage happened just outside of oklahoma city in some rural communities. three people tragically killed more people injured there

according to first responders who described that the rural nature of these communities and of the state, it actually makes it more time consuming to assess the damage they're having to park their cars in some instances and then walk at least a mile in order to access some of the northeast severely damaged areas oklahoma's governor tweeting that the state is working to restore communities. he was on the campus of oklahoma baptist university where the school's president says there isn't a single building that has not been damaged he points out this is an area that's familiar with tornadoes but says they have never experienced something like this. take a listen. >> sheltered in our apartment. it was quiet for a while, then we started hearing the wind, then it picked up really quickly. the door was banging we all had to huddle up on the other side of the room i went back to check on my room when we got released there's glass everywhere my window is gone. my room is a whole mess.

>> all i want to say is, you know, buildings can be rebuilt, and we have significant damage on the campus. it's going to take time to rebuild. >> to give you a sense of the strength of the storms in kansas for instance, the winds so powerful, they actually blew a semitruck off the highway injuring several people. there were 15 reported tornadoes yesterday in three different states as the springtime storms absolutely continue to wreak havoc, chris. >> emilie ikeda, thank you for that. and still to come, the confusing and shifting abortion rules in the united states as the supreme court considers a ruling that could severely limit access the latest and what you need to know in just 60 seconds. [tap tap] my secret to beating sniff checks? secret dry spray. just spray and stay fresh all day. my turn. secret actually fights odor. and it's aluminum free. hours later, still fresh.

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either squeeze abortion access in this country into an even tighter space or give women seeking options a little room to breathe. the high court has until midnight to take action on a texas ruling that would slash access to mifepristone even in states where abortion remains legal. i want to bring in nbc news washington correspondent yamiche alcindor, "washington post" reporter, carlisa rubin justice alito issued a temporary stay, buying time before the texas ruling could take effect walk us through possible scenarios now. >> there are three likely scenarios. one is the court on friday night could issue what's not a temporary stay, a longer stay pending appeal, send it back to the fifth circuit, an intermediate appellate court, to make a ruling on the merits of the judge's decision that's the decision that revoked approval of mifepristone the other thing the supreme court could do is deny a longer

term stay in which case the fifth circuit's existing ruling would take effect. that ruling says mifepristone remains legal as approved in 2000, but relaxations of certain restrictions would be blocked. that means mifepristone would be approved only for use, for example, at seven weeks, that you would need three visits to a doctor to use mifepristone, and the third possibility, and perhaps the unlikeliest is the court grants the stay and also takes what's called certisertiao resolve the conflict between the texas judge's ruling and the washington state federal judge's ruling, saying no ufda cannot make any changes at all. >> that's not likely to happen you say. you and caroline first reported on the texas judge behind the abortion ruling. e-mails show he removed his name from an article during the judicial nomination process, and now yesterday, senator lisa murkowski who supported judge's

nomination she feels she got duped. tell us about this judge. >> judge kazmaryck as he was interviewing for the federal bench, he submitted an article to a law review in texas he submitted it with his name on it but then as the interviews continued, he sent an e-mail to the editors, you know, requesting to take his name off and replace it with two other authors, and that is the article that eventually ran, and it was an argument against protections for transgender people so, you know, when you do, you know, apply to be a federal judge, you have to submit to the senate a comprehensive list of everything that you have ever published, written or edited, and so, you know a lot of people are saying that he really should have disclosed that article. and i think, you know, that's

what the senator was saying yesterday as well. >> so i want to play something that we just got today from the jennifer hudson show, the vice president who has sort of become the face of this for the administration was asked about this ongoing debate. here's what she had to say. >> the highest court in our land, the united states supreme court took a constitutional right that had been recognized from the women of america. here's the thing that i think has to be said about this issue. one does not have to abandon their faith or deeply held beliefs to agree that the government should not be telling her what to do with her body there's a simple thing at play, trust women to make decisions about what is in their best interest. >> yamiche, talk a little bit about the administration messaging here and what they

think they can accomplish. >> one, she has become the face of this. vice president kamala harris, ever since the leak was published and it was clear that the supreme court was going to overturn roe v. wade, she stepped out there and told her staff that this is something they wanted to get in front of, and she has been someone who has been the most vocal member, really, of the biden administration of course president biden has come out and been supportive of abortion rights. she has held on numerous events something like 40 plus events and a number of media interviews something like 38 interviews and going. so the message here from the administration is that this is a fundamental women's right and a critical right that needs to be protected and she is going to be someone who's going to continue to go out and make that message very clear to voters it's also something that i should say talking to people who are close to her, something that she viscerally understands as a woman, a woman of color, they tell me, as well as someone who was a prosecutor who did a lot of sexual violence case. the white house really going to be messaging on the fact that this is about keeping women safe, not just about abortion,

which of course they say is a critical part of this, but also general health care in the way that women are able to access reproductive health care in this country, and you also of course realize that republicans, while they're getting a lot of wind here, they are also still struggling with their messaging. you're also going to hear from the white house that really they are wanting to be critical of republicans and say that even they are going to kaccuse them f going too far, even of their own goals, which is a hard one to wrap your arms around. conservative activists, they are continuing to do this before the supreme court. >> let me ask you about other side then. republican lawmakers have been trying to block abortion services for military members and spouses that are provided by the va, but yesterday democrats in the senate blocked them with a 51/48 vote what's the republican strategy here >> republican strategy here is to continue to move forward with the conservative goals as it

relates to abortion and restricting access to it while there are a number of politicians, i'll point to republican governor ron desantis who might in the quietness of night sign things like he did in florida where you saw that six-week abortion ban go into effect they are still going to be very much siding with opponents of abortion rights and try to take this as far as they can. i remember being in mississippi moments, hours after the supreme court leak that "politico" had broke, and immediately conservative activists told me this was just the beginning. we have a lot more goals in our minds and a lot more things we want to accomplish and this is what you see in that movement they are trying to make sure every aspect that they can target, that it will be restricted and that abortion access in this country becomes in their minds, they want to be nonexistent. i think a lot of conservative activists that i have talked to personally want to see a national federal abortion ban go into effect. that is the ultimate goal here of course it's going to be anyone's guess whether or not they get there it is absolutely part of the

real calculus here, chris. >> there are so many fights going on, caroline let me mention one more. pharmaceutical company, which makes the generic abortion pill is suing the fda what's that about and what's the potential impact there >> oh, man, you're right there are so many fights going on simultaneously around this issue. the drug company is saying even if the court s do withdrawal approve of mifepristone, basically the fda can't do that to this drug company, and they are really urging the fda to use their enforcement discretion to say, you know, no. we're not going to do that obviously that's very controversial. i think the big thing to take away here is that drug companies, abortion rights activists, everybody is imagining worst case scenario for them when it comes to what the supreme court could do and, you know, filing lawsuits

that could potentially help protect access to mifepristone, even if the supreme court was to rule with judge kacsmaryk. >> just to wrap this up if i can, legally speaking, is texas the one we should be watching or, yes, that's important, but the reality is that what was predicted, the minute we heard what was happening to roe, which was that this is going to be a mess and confusing for a very long time is true? >> i think it is going to be a mess and confusing for a very long time because as we're dealing with this texas suit, certainly some clarity about texas and washington will be helpful in terms of abortion access, but then there are a number of other suits, including ones brought in west virginia and north carolina to say that the fda as the federal regulator of food and drugs, they take precedent. that question still needs to be regulated. >> lisa rubin, yamiche alcindor,

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stations weren't getting that gas, then buyers went to every gas station in the area and essentially began panic buying and that's what eventually led to the chaos that we've seen drivers going to gas stations when they didn't need to fill up their tank, and topping off those tanks, pretty much overwhelming the system. here's a conversation i had with the owner of this gas station, and one of the drivers that stopped by today i have no doubts the problem that we have today, the problem is simply because of buying panic. there was never a shortage just a day, and a person who will be buying 5 gallons, 10 gallons, and people filling up with a quarter, now 3/4. there was never a shortage. >> reporter: now, to be clear, there was a shortage initially when the port was closed the last update indicates that nine out of the twelve terminals that they have to fill up those

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young people how long are you going to let this go on >> congresswoman, let me assure you that we're not letting it go on we are fighting this -- >> i reclaim my time you're a liar. >> words will taken down. >> the gentlemen will state the words he wishes to be taken down. >> the gentle lady referenced the secretary and called him a liar. >> it's pretty clear that the rules state you can't impugn someone's character, identifying or calling someone a liar is unacceptable in this committee and i make the ruling that we strike those words >> i want to bring in nbc capitol hill correspondent ryan nobles, a rare moment, i guess you could say of bipartisanship. i want to read the way "politico" put this, ryan, quote, republicans put congresswoman green on an island of her defense of the airman who leak classified materials, now we see leadership shut her down over the comments to the dhs secretary. so the question is are these isolated incidents or a sign

that as we get closer to 2024, the more worried republicans are getting that they might be handing democrats fodder for campaign ads >> reporter: you know, chris, i think we need to take each one of these incidents unto themselves and not necessarily read too much into it as a broader pattern. what's interesting after that very visible dust up that happened during that committee hearing and the subsequent reports, you know, the committee through their spokesperson was, you know, putting out statements tamping down any kind of internal disagreement between marjorie taylor greene and the chairman, mark green so, you know, marjorie taylor greene has always found herself to be someone who's a little bit more outspoken she espouses views that aren't necessarily in line with the main line of the republican party. when you're in a situation right now where republicans only enjoy a four-seat majority, they have to be very careful not to reign in their members too much, it could mean it could cost them

votes down the road. this was an incident that processed the line even for some republicans. whether or not that leads to a pattern, i think we're going to need to see more evidence of as we continue on in this congress. >> you talk about the votes they need, house speaker mccarthy, the looming debt fight where every vote counts, including marjorie taylor greene and george santos. >> reporter: you're absolutely right, chris kevin mccarthy cannot afford to take any vote for granted, and that's why, you know, it is difficult to try and put any member in his own party on any kind of an island. if they feel aggrieved, if they feel like they're left out of the process, that could mean when there's an important vote they need to get over the finish line, one or two members could decide not to support a piece of legislation. that could derail the process. the debt ceiling fight is a perfect example of that. while it does seem as though the early reviews of this debt ceiling package are being received positively by most of the members, it only takes four

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taliban are not diverting the money we are sending from the intended recipients, which are the poor afghan people. >> he also told lawmakers the state department and usaid have refused to share information despite being legally obligated to do so, making it difficult to fulfill its congressionally mandated mission both of those denies the charge with the state department questioning whether the inspector general even has jurisdiction since the withdrawal arguing that since the u.s. is no longer involved in recons reconstructing afghanistan, the watchdog has nothing to oversee. nato's chief is in ukraine today meeting with president zelenskyy in kyiv for the first time since the russian invasion. in a joint press conference, secretary general janss -- jens

stoltenberg made remarks. >> ukraine's rightful place is in the european family ukraine's rightful place is in nato, and over time, our support will help you make this possible >> that visit comes as kyiv looks to establish a new balance of power on the battlefield with the ukrainian military now in possession of patriot batteries, the most advanced air defense system in the u.s. arsenal nbc's ellison barber is following it all for us in kyiv. ellison, the nato chief said the quiet part kind of out loud today, ukraine should be in the alliance, and we're moving in that direction russia has already signalled that out as a red line for any potential peace talks. what more do we know about this meeting? >> reporter: yeah, i mean everything about this meeting is a very big deal, as you said, this is the first time we have seen the secretary general step foot in ukraine since russia launched its full scale invasion in february of last year this visit was unannounced

presidential volodymyr zelenskyy in ukraine, he said that they see this visit as a sign that the alliance is ready to move its relationship with ukraine into a new chapter remember, ukraine announced a fast track bid for nato membership back in september but this is something that russia is adamantly opposed to, and today a spokesperson for russian president vladimir putin was asked about this visit by reporters. one asking him specifically if preventing ukraine's participation in nato is still a goal of this war, what russia calls a special military operation, his answer was definitely dmitry peskov went on to say they believe, and they have consistently said this, that ukraine joining nato is a red line, it is a security threat, they say, to their country's future, and something that they would absolutely not tolerate. at the same time in this meeting, you have this situation where president zelenskyy is announcing that they are getting

more advanced weapons from other countries, leopard systems from the netherlands on top of that this week, we had officials in ukraine confirming that those u.s. made patriot missile systems are physically in the country. but president volodymyr zelenskyy essentially said what we're getting, we appreciate it, but it is not enough he said that he made a plea to the secretary general, asking him to help, and i'm quoting here, chris to help ukraine overcome the resistance of our partners in the supply of some weapons. he specifically mentioned things like long range weapons as well as modern aircraft remember hanging over all of this is the fact that we expect ukraine to soon launch a spring counter offensive. we don't know exactly when we know that is something they're preparing for. what we keep hearing ukrainian official says, they believe they need more weapons in order to be successful and make significant territorial gains in the south chris. >> ellison barber, thank you for

that as ukraine's military challenges remain a critical part o. situ of the situation, the health challenges are growing after 14 months of relentless war joining us now, the world health organization's europe regional director, hanz cluga, thank you for joining us we have spent time on the staggering death toll for good reason, but there are tens of thousands of people who are injured and survived and are now in long-term rehabilitation, are going to need long-term care what is your assessment right now of ukraine's ability to meet that need and what responsibility does europe have to help? >> i have been to kyiv in the front line four times since the war started and i'm always amazed how the health system is standing in spite of everything. as of today, 912 attacks on health care, which is a very

clear breach of international humanitarian law the longer the war lingers, the more the need for rehabilitation, work with the government on a national strategic plan providing assistive devices, be it from wheelchair, prosthesis, hearing aids, the earlier that there can be intervention, for example, on heavy traumas of the brain, spinal cord, limb amputation, the complication can be avoided. it's a huge need, and this will continue as long as the work continues, particularly combined with the mental health needs we launched with the first lady of ukraine, madame zelenskyy, a huge psycho social support program for the people but the support, right now in chicago at the world's global digital

health conference. we had the ukraine ambassador to the united states, ox sana speaking and thanks american people, the european people and the world cup organization, support needs to be continued. >> i think that so much of what you're saying is extraordinary, i mean, we have talked a lot about the resilience and the admiration we have for the resilience of ukrainian troops, but to hear you talk about the other people on the front lines, the health care workers, the mental health workers, talk about your experiences in meeting them and seeing the way that they're doing their jobs under -- it's an understatement to say the most difficult of circumstances. >> absolutely, the first reaction anytime i go there is hard breaking to listen to the stories, but then i get so inspired and energized

last time i was in de, dnipro, there were 200 patients with limbs amputated, heavy brain injuries, only three hours left, the surgeon still in the dark continuing the surgery with generators, so the resilience of the nurses, the surgeons some surgeons had not gone home since the 24th of february last year but this is thanks to their heroic effort but also i would like to stress this, the continued budget support for salaries and medicines, not least from the united states of america and european union. >> dr. hans kluge, we appreciate your time, sir >> my pleasure. an ohio official is in trouble for spending public money on wait for it, his own -to go bowling with us t a

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or xfinitymobile.com today. what do five hot tubs, two snow owls a wildebeast, and a drum set have, that's what one ohio official bought for himself using town funds former fiscal officer, cy vierstra has been sentenced to five years in prison and ordered to repay the $339,717.86 he stole from town funds the story gets wilder. he wasn't just buying these items for himself. he was getting them for his roadside zoo and airbnb. the union ridge wildlife center. his zoo has chimps, monkeys, tigers, lemurs and more. joining me now, columbus dispatch reporter who has been

following this whole saga, laura bishoff, as an ohioan, i'm going to say this is crazy stuff, help us understand what happened here do we know how he took all of this money >> yeah, this really seems like a very ohio story. this guy was elected or assumed office in 2014 it's a small township, and there's not a lot of people to do oversight he had control over almost all aspects of finances, so really this was an opportunity for lack of controls, and it was right for somebody to expose that, and use that to his advantage. as you said, he bought all kinds of stuff with public -- the township's debit cards and credit cards we're talking like more than a thousand different transactions over 4 1/2 years and eventually the county auditor got wind of this and passed a tip along to the state

auditor, keith faber and they opened an audit, and dug into it and found, you know, what was going on >> so have they done -- i mean, obviously this guy now, you know, he's been sentenced, and he's going to have to pay back all of this money, but there's got to be a little bit of red face somewhere, i mean, a thousand transactions before anybody figured out what was going on and have at least some safeguards been put in place >> right what i said, the audits indicated this guy had complete control over everything, and he was doing things to cover up his tracks he was submitting fake invoices, bogus billing slips, trying to couch things as though they were being purchased for the township, but you're right, i mean, this is a small township i don't know how they could have missed essentially about a hundred thousand dollars a year in additional expenses >> yeah, when we talk about a cup of snow owls and a wild

beast, i'm not sure how that goes on to the records, and having said that, talk a little bit about this place, like what do we know about it, what's happening now and what's happening to these poor animals? >> i'm not sure what happened to all the animals, peta relocated some to florida. the other animals, it's unclear if some are still on site or if the state has taken some of them about 11 or 12 years ago, there was a massive incident in ohio in which a guy named terry thompson returned home from prison to his own private zoo which was falling into disrepair, and he let 55 or 56 animals out of their cages, died by suicide in his driveway, and as sun started to set, it forced

local law enforcement to go out and hunt these animals, these wild animals down and had to kill most of them. that prompted ohio to finally pass a law that prohibits private ownership of exotic animals. you can still own and operate sang sanctuaries. i think this guy had some sort of a permit. if you go through the ohio department of agriculture, and you pay the fees, and you pass the inspections, et cetera ohio does have because of this incident in zanesville, ohio built for lack of a better word, its own little exotic animal prison or holding facility there's a lot of secrecy around it we're not sure how many animals or which animals are in it, but after the zanesville incident, they had to basically confiscate animals from all of these private owners and care for them >> well, some good came out of the bad that they're not letting

those situations develop again laura bischoff, thank you so much, good to have you on the program. appreciate your time. that's going to do it for us this hour. make sure to join us for "chris jansing reports" every weekday, 1:00 to 3:00 p.m. eastern here on msnbc our coverage continues with "katy tur reports" right now ♪ good to be with you today, i'm katy tur what is happening at the supreme court? justice alito extended his self-imposed deadline for the justices to decide what to do with mifepristone. the question is why did he extend are there strong feelings about what the courts should do? is one of the justices writing a fiery dissent? laura jarrett is back with us to explain what we know and what will it mean for health care, specifically women's health care mifepristone is not just used for medicated abortion it's also used to help manage