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began. nicolle wallace and i began the hour discussing our favorite ice creams what is yours? you can tell me @arimelber on twitter or on facebook i was sharing the cookie dough, the half baked, that kind of stuff. you can always connect with me and my writer at arimelber.com we have you covered. "the reidout" with joy reid starts now tonight on "the reidout" -- >> i think we're in very good shape. we just rolled it out yesterday.
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we're talking through all the memos. i don't want to break all expectations i want you to follow it, to be on the floor, i want the anticipation i want you to see, i want you to see as the clock goes up i want you to write stories like teetering, whether i can win or not and the whole world hangs in the balance. >> or that's what you want kevin is still playing a dangerous game, joking about a debt default while refusing to specify what it is he wants to cut. his chaos caucus, meanwhile, grows more emboldened to make a spectacle out of, well, everything plus, the brand-new super pac that wants to help america move past the gutter politics of marjorie greenes and lauren boebert s and matt gaetzs. >> and ron desantis has put all his chips on fighting woke, going mia from its state as it endures an actual crisis, but surprise, he's getting the pudding squeezed out of him by donald trump when it comes to
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florida endorsements but we begin tonight with the kevin mccarthy caucus. it has been 107 days since republicans took control of the house of representatives, and so far, it's been, to put it lightly, a smoking hot mess. just this week, you had congressman jim jordan dragging the judiciary committee on a field trip to new york city, for a sham hearing about crime when in reality, it was just basically an excuse to go after d.a. alvin bragg and play lawyer to a twice impeached and now once indicted former president you also have george santos introducing a bill called the minaj act, an apparent nod to nicki minaj, that would limit the federal government's ability to impose vaccine mandates other than that, a lot of buzz words like woke, trans, and crt, whatever will get them a spot on fox primetime. while all this is happening, the country is quickly approaching an economic crisis if congress does not increase the debt ceiling by the summer,
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the government is at least at risk of going into default and tanking the economy. and right now, there is no sign of any solution that the house, senate, and president could all get behind yesterday, house speaker kevin mccarthy finally unveiled his plan, a bill that would raise the debt ceiling into next year and also slash federal spending by roughly $130 billion. and where would they make those cuts, you ask? well, apparently they still don't know "the washington post" is reporting the spending reductions probably would target federal health care, science, education, climate, energy, labor, and research programs, while leaving untouched the pentagon and services for veterans but the bill still does not specify the exact agencies or programs on the chopping block the bill would also raise the age limit on work requirements for those receiving federal food aid from programs like s.n.a.p., leaving millions of low income adults without food assistance that proposal is essentially
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dead on arrival in the senate. and that is if it can even get through the house. but kevin is threatening if he doesn't get what he wants, he would hold the american economy hostage. >> let me be clear a no strings attached debt limit increase will not pass >> on top of that, you have congress members like marjorie taylor greene who are using their taxpayer funded time to turn committee hearings into total clown shows. yesterday, during a homeland security hearing, greene was silenced after repeating a debunked right wing conspiracy theory that damentic colleague is having an extramarital affair with a chinese spy, while also calling the homeland security secretary a liar >> that was quite entertaining from someone who had a sexual relationship with a chinese spy. and everyone knows it. but thanks - >> i move to take her words down >> how long are you going to
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continue this outrage, complete outrage, where china is poisoning america's children poisoning our teenagers, poisoning our young people how long are you going to let this go on >> let me assure you that we're not letting it go on we are fighting -- >> no, i reclaim my time you're a liar. >> reports say that some republicans were supposedly furious about that outburst, but marge doesn't seem scared of repercussions. she doubled down on her obscene remark on the twitters why should she worry if there's one thing we learned from kevin mccarthy's leadership, it's that there is no bottom, whether it's lying or racism or an insurrection, you can pretty much get away with anything under his leadership. joining me now is california congressman eric swalwell. congressman, you know, i do have to ask, marjorie taylor greene started out as a qtuber and an online trol, and apparently, that's still her job, except now
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we're paying her to be a qtuber and online troll i'm curious what it's like to have to share committee space with that person >> well, joy, marjorie taylor greene has the job of speaker. kevin mccarthy has the title that's why it's so terrifying. she got so worked up and hurled that nonsense at me because i had pointed out right before her that they have now become the party that doesn't back the blue, they back the coup and i walked secretary mayorkas through marjorie taylor greene and donald trump's various statements about defunding the police and defunding the fbi of course, that was her response it was interesting, though, that she was ultimately muted by her own chairman, who she would also go on to attack later on that day as a rino. it's complete chaos. what is it like to be there? like working every day in the land of misfit toys.
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we are as democrats working for working people trying to make sure that our kids go home safely after school and are free from gun violence, that we bring down the cost of health care and that we tackle climate chaos. but as you can see, they have one third of government essentially right now, and they can do some damage >> do some damage, but also stop any actual work getting done the thing that is so upsetting about it, beyond just the personal insults is there's real work that congress needs to do it is a real job you're supposed to have, and you have people here like her, who aren't actually there to do that. they're just there to troll. they're literally taking their trolling they used to do online and they could easily do without us having to pay them, they could do it on twitter, but instead they're getting paid to do it. i don't see that she does anything else. are there any bills with her name on it does she do anything other than that >> no, that's what she does. it's actually interesting that kevin mccarthy wants to put in place work requirements for cancer patients who are on food
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stamps if kevin mccarthy or marjorie taylor greene had to pass a work requirement, they wouldn't get aid. >> clearly i want to play -- very nice young gentleman, i think he's a freshman, representative jeff jackson of north carolina. this is what he had to say i ran into him here at the studio last night, lovely guy. and what he had to say to my friend, chris hayes, i think is interesting. let's take a listen. >> it's really clear from working there for just a few months that most of the really angry voices in congress are totally faking it. these people who have built their brands around being perpetually outraged, it's an act. >> that wasn't his interview on chris hayes. that was from her very popular tiktok, because he's been telling this to the world. do you experience the same thing? after you get attacked by somebody like marjorie greene, who is an unserious person and an embarrassment that she's a
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member of congress, do your republican colleagues come up afterwards and say i'm sorry, man, we think it's embarrassing too. >> they love to bro out and back slap because they work in angertainment. i call it a pro wrestling culture where the cameras are on, they give the fans what they think they want, which is to hit me and others over the head with a steel chair. i call these fans constituents, but when they're not on, you know, many of them will come up to me and one recently invited me to dinner another, jim jordan, by the way, in the gym, you walk by him in the gym every morning, and he'll ask how was your weekend, how are you doing? what's going on here with these folks? this is serious stuff that we're doing. this is not just for the fans and there are real consequences if the fans think this is real and you actually don't believe it >> i mean, we just saw the dominion trial in which we learned in the pretrial period that most of the people at fox are faking it. they're pretending to be maga, they're pretending to like
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donald trump, when tucker carlson actually thinks he's a demonic force and hates him passionately, despises him but they are willing to give their audience what they want, right, to give them the grist for their rage because it's good business in congress, though, it's not a business i mean, what you guys'job is to protecting homeland security, making sure that health care is funded, making sure that bridges and roads get funded there's actual work. do any of your republican colleagues have any interest in doing bills, in doing laws, in let's say, i don't know, doing the debt ceiling deal? do they actually want to work or are they literally just auditioning every day to get on tuck 'em's show. >> i had an hour-long drink last night in the office of a republican colleague he and i are doing work on an important issue. i'm not going to out him because that will get him in trouble, but they're not all like that.
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but there are consequences to this crazy and i'll give you an example we're supposed to protect the most vulnerable, protect kids, and today, they passed a bill that essentially invades the locker rooms of every school in america and allows people to inspect the genitals of our kids because republicans have convinced many of their base that the z .0001% of trans kids who want to play a sport are going to affect your kids. and so they exaggerated this issue and now trans kids are being attacked and they have made it seem like it's democrats' obsession. let me tell your viewers, when you're at home and talking about this issue, this is not our obsession. this is their obsession. we need to play on their side of the field on their issue that this is republicans voting to invade the locker rooms of
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our kids' schools to conduct jen agenitalia checks. their obsessions have consequences and kids are going to get hurt because of it. >> their obsession is that, bringing bake child labor, in some states bringing back child marriage, forcing children to have their rapists' babies some of it is dangerous. the same marjorie greene, the troll that has the same job as you for whatever reason the faiths have allowed it, was out there defending teixeira, the young man who stole america's secrets just for clout chasing, so he's basically her, but a guy stealing secrets just trying to clout chase online to his friends in a little racist circle that they were in. and said that the only reason he is being prosecuted is because he's white and christian and male that to me seems like a pretty dangerous thing to say because
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now you're saying the government is at war with white christian men, instead of the government is protecting its secrets. how has that gone over with your republican colleagues? >> and you're inviting more leaks that will harm our troops, that will hurt our allies, harm ukrainians what's most shocking to me, joy, is you would think the person that is second in line to the presidency, again, the person who has the title of speaker, not sure if he has the job, kevin mccarthy, second in line to the presidency, has said nothing. so when you say nothing and you allow marjorie taylor greene to essentially give aid and comfort to this traitor, you yourself are givingate and comfort to this traitor you're condoning it in your silence. that's what's just so maddening that he would give her that permissive environment to encourage more leaks >> well, to update the ronald reagan line, i think the most frightening words that one could ever hear is kevin mccarthy is second in line to the presidency that's a frightening thought,
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because he -- i don't know if he could control a preschool, let alone controlling the house of representatives. and somebody needs to be in charge >> it means second in line to the presidency essentially >> everyone, scaring is caring, but that might be a little too scary for me tonight thank you, congressman eric swalwell that's terrifying just to think about that think about that that woman is in control of the house of representatives eric swalwell, thank you up next on "the reidout," i'll talk with the leaders of a brand-new bipartisan pack, mission democracy, which was founded to challenge extremist candidates like marjorie taylor greene "the reidout" continues after this
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marjorie taylor greene may have the most outsized influence of the most extreme maga wingers in congress, thanks to kevin mccarthy selling his soul to her to become speaker. but she's really just one of the loudest of the dregs of the right wing extremists in the republican caucus. there's gun toting lauren boebert, who this week signed on to a brief asking the supreme court to ban the abortion medication mifepristone, and paul gosar, who shared cartoons of himself killing democrats to linking himself to holocaust denial just this week. a newly formed pack is taking them on along with some of the other worst of the worst maga republicans, the bipartisan
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commission democracy pac aims to stop the far right maga members of congress back in their home districts, making clear in their first new ad that margie is just the avatar of the extremists >> roe v. wade has been overturned and our government is held hostage by a band of politicians so extreme, only the word fascist describes them extremists are taking over america. it's not just marjorie taylor greene it's the entire greene team. we all thought they were just a bunch of crazies they are here, they are elected, they wield power >> joining me now for their first tv interview are three founders of mission democracy pac, chairman marcus flowers, who ran against marjorie taylor greene last year, olivia troye, chief operating officer of the pac and former adviser to mike pence, and former republican congressman denver riggleman, who is a member of the pac's board. thank you all for being here i feel like i should go to you
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first because you took the heat of trying to run against that woman. and so i guess the question i guess to ask all of you is, is it even possible to dislodge people like marjorie taylor greene when people who have seen her, they know she's an internet troll, they know she follows teenage shooting victims around on capitol hill and that she's not wrapped too tight, and they still voted for her. is it even possible to dislodge someone like her you tried? >> i tried didn't get the outcome i wanted. but what's the alternative throwing our hands up and not doing anything allowing fascism to take hold in our country? we can't do that we have to try we have to bring this fight and educate people in those districts about the dangers of the radicalization of people like marjorie taylor greene and her fascist greene team lineup pushing all over our country >> my question is how do you do it i'll start with you, olivia. you're not just dealing with
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marjorie greene and her online fans you're al dealing with fox we just had a young man named quintin ludwig, the grandson of the man who shot that little boy, ralph yarl in the face and head, and then shot him again. this is what he said about how his grandfather got radicalized. take a quick listen. >> feel like a lot of people of that generation are caught up in this 24-hour news cycle of fear and paranoia, perpetuated by some other news ully into that, would sit and watch fox news every day blaring in his living room i think that stuff really kind of re-enforces this negative view of minority groups and leads people -- doesn't necessarily lead people to be racist, but it re-enforces and galvanizes racist people >> olivia, you were in the homeland security department you were in charge of things like counterterrorism.
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this is radicalization taking place. how do you fight that when you have people so radicalized they would shoot a child at their door >> this is why it's so dangerous. this is why these people who are elected officials, the leaders of the republican party, their words matter they're working together with fox news it's one big machine that's why it's important to really reach out at the local level into these communities where it's happening because it's actually reaching those viewers. reaching those voters and having a conversation about why this matters, why it's important, what it means, what does it mean when you start to undermine law enforcement? the courts, what does it mean when you start to ban books? it doesn't stop there. and so i think our point is, look, we call the ad the black shirts ad because it's a reference to what happened with mussolini. they came to power, fascists came to power via election at the beginning. we're watching this happen right now. so in terms of disinformation, denver and i talk about this all the time, it's our passion
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we talk about how do you counter, how do you permeate into those circles to marcus' credit, grateful that people are willing to take a stand and take these people on republicans do that. they don't take breaks they don't care that they might lose in that district. they're out there pounding the pavement every day, together with fox news. we know that i watched the trump administration do it internally. texting, you know, that whole thing. we saw how that played out >> it played on january 6th. denver, you were involved in that investigation because you have such a radicalized base in the party that is so loud, i think it's tempting for people that are in the democratic side to say, well, that's all -- there are no republicans who aren't like that and that even republican leaning independents are impenetrable because they're zooming in on fox news and watching it all the time is there a pragmatic argument that can put something between them and the radicalization? is there some sort of -- because policy arguments don't seem to work >> not really. and i think what you're looking here, you have three people with you with a unique set of skills.
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we're all from intelligence backgrounds, but i think what you're looking at, we have a very specific mission. that mission is only a few right now. we're not looking at everything across the spectrum because there are republicans out there, right, that are commonsense, they're facts based, and they want the right thing for the country. what you have right here, when olivia and marcus reached out to me, i said there's only one criteria that's that the people we're supporting are sane. >> that would be nice. >> facts over fantasy. really, since we are intelligence professionals, since we did this, wecame up with a way to describe this. when we were in the military, we had a prioritized integrated target list. we have a prioritized candidate list our issue here is we need to have the right pcl here, we have to put it together to take research, data, but very pointed ads that actually hits them in their weaknesses that's something that we're all very good at i think, listen, we're fighting in the seams
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i know we're fighting in the 3% to 5% seam area, but i would not rather fight this with anybody than olivia and marcus right now because they're sane >> and i think it does matter that you all have intelligence and military backgrounds because this is sort of almost a project of dealing with an insurgency. so i will go to you because you did try do it in georgia you know, i know in kentucky, the way that the previous governor, the previous democratic governor, the way he got around people's resistance to obamacare was called a connect. in the subsequence republican got thrown out of office because he tried to take connect away because people didn't understand, that's obamacare is it about how you message policies that give people health care and things but change the name what do you do to get people to say no, you want health care more than you want to ban the .001% of trans kids from playing sports >> one of the things i did
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throughout the campaign is met people where they were that's where we started the conversation because a lot of people are -- you talked about it, inundated with this misinformation and disinformation from a news organization that just got successfully sued and, you know, settled out of court, paid a huge fine. we have the conversation where they are and then we talk about the things that are important. we talk about people like marjorie taylor greene, like boebert, like gaetz, who aren't doing a thing for their district they're not doing a thing. they're not working on policies. they're working on fear. and fascist movements. >> i'm old enough to remember when politicians were judged by how much they brought home to the district did you bring home resources it really seems that that is completely irrelevant. you were a member of congress. >> i was >> they're not judged that way anymore. you're judged on trolling. >> when i did the two years there, my thing was technology
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i wanted to expand brandbound, i worked across the aisle with abigail spanberger we worked with lasting smiles there. seven funded health centers, virginia is huge, so the most funding for pre-existing conditions and health care was going to my district, and they said they were against the aca i had to go in there and talk to them and say you're against the very thing funding these centers, guys. and actually, that did help a bit because yeah, i want my health care, but i think in congress, i thought it was solution based i thought i had to go in and solve a problem. really, they just wanted to be popular or click bait. i really think it's trying to utilize clicks and hyperbole and outrage to make money or to be famous in some ways. i think service is not about fame, obviously. >> but i mean, it is -- the thing about it is, i see, you worked there so you know donald trump is a celebrity who then became a politician
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it does seem to me that a lot of politicians who followed in his wake think they can replicate that, but they're not celebrities. but they're getting a kind of celebrity out of doing what they're doing. how do you break that chain? >> it's permeated throughout i think that's the problem it's the grift and they get the click bait and they're raising the money. and that is one thing, where i think it's important to take a stand against these people because they're raising money, and they spread it around. they play as a team. it's important to remember that. that's also what we're up against. so i think when i look at these candidates and look at marjorie taylor greene, i saw her doing the wave down there at mar-a-lago on indictment day remember that? she was doing the walk the red carpet down there like she was a celebrity because she thinks she is she's not serving her community. she's not serving the people of georgia at all she spends more time mudslinging at hearings like we just saw this week, just spreading whatever she wants to spread because she wants the stage. >> she's giving people feelings, feelings, feelings what happened to f your
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feelings it's not about feelings. it's about getting things done denver riggleman, one of my favorite names it's a great name. olivia troye, great to have them on set, and also, marcus flowers, great to meet you and we're all on set together. like a covid miracle thank you all very much. up next, trump's numerous many lawyers continue to get pulled into his criminal investigations for questions, yut the former president himself might not show up in court more ohin s multiple legal investigations next. when you have chronic kidney disease. there are places you'd like to be. like here. and here. and here. not so much here. if you've been diagnosed with chronic kidney disease farxiga reduces the risk of kidney failure which can lead to dialysis.
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while donald trump continues to use his twitter knock-off platform to mount his so-called defense in the growing legal cases against him, his lawyers, they're not faring much better today, another one of those attorneys, boring epstein, met with federal prosecutors working for special counsel jack smith not only is episteyn links to the special counsel investigations into trump, he will be the fourth trump lawyer we're aware of that the special counsel has called in. and in the e. jean carroll rape trial, they failed in their attempt to get the judge to explain to jurors trump's likely absence from the courtroom during the trial is, get this, due to traffic concerns. in a letter to the judge
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yesterday, tacopina claimed that trump wished to appear at the trial but wanted the judge to tell the jurors if trump is a no-show, that that absence by design avoids the logistical burdens that his presence as the former president would cause the courthouse and new york city accordingly, his presence is excused unless and until he is called by either party to testify. the judge responded today no such instruction will be made to a jury, adding mr. trump is under no legal obligation to be present or testify the decision whether to attend or testify is his alone to make. there is nothing for the court to excuse. in other words, please stop. go away. good-bye joining me now, paul butler, former federal prosecutor and msnbc legal analyst. that judge was like, yeah, boy, bye. >> if you read the opinion, he throws so much shade, it's not even funny so trump's lawyer was saying, the jurors should be instructed that trump isn't going to attend every day because it would be a burden to the court. so the judge was like, thing one, this is a federal
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courthouse in new york city. we know how to deal with logistics. thing two, trump has a secret service detail they should be able to take care of security. thing three, during one of the trials scheduled dates, trump was going to be campaigning for president in new hampshire he doesn't seem to have a security concern there, and thing four, the judge said, wasn't trump just arraigned last week at the courthouse down the street, and that didn't seem to be a problem >> yeah, in other words, please stop just don't even try it let's go to boris epshteyn those who have watched a lot of msnbc remember him as a former person i have contended with, ari melber has had him on. he's not a great tv guest and not that great of a lawyer here is boris admitting to being a part of the fake elector scheme here he is >> i was part of the process to make sure there were alternate electors for when as we hoped the challenges to the seated electors would be heard and be successful, part of the constitution and the electoral
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count act. everything was done legally according to the rules and under the leadership of rudy giuliani. >> ari melber's face was, i can't believe this man is admitting to a crime in front of me and trying to hold it together this is wild >> because ari's show was at some point going to be evidence, could well be evidence >> interesting >> look, boris epshteyn is the lawyer of trump's dreams he's trump's roy cohn. his fingers are everywhere he was working with the fake elector scheme with john corcoran, with the mar-a-lago documents case this guy is the one who brought coke rn and christina bobb together to write that letter that said that they had done a diligent search and they were sure all the documents had been turned over, and then the lawyers were like, i'm not going to sign it, you sign it. the other lawyer was like, i'll sign it but i'm not going to say it's true. i'll just say this is what i was
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told he's everywhere. i wouldn't be surprised if jack smith is looking to see, a, what he knows, and b, if he knows good stuff, whether he could be flipped. >> wow, that is wild i have to really quickly ask you about the georgia case because that is a case that feels like it's pending, pending. does it surprise you it's taking so long to wrap that up? >> i don't think fani willis is in any hurry she's got a special grand jury that already made a decision so now she has to present this evidence to a regular grand jury that takes an amount of time if i had to answer whether there would be a prosecution in this case, yes, i do. that's where trump faces the most exposure. if she decides to bring a racketeering case against him, he could face up to 20 years in prison and this is a district attorney who is not shy about bringing those cases. she went after school teachers in atlanta for cheating on a standardized test. she locked them up for a long time for that. what trump has done, or at least
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what he's accused of doing is much worse >> she seems to be completely unbothered and unafraid. all of these cases, that obviously sounds like it poses the most potential jail threat what about the documents case? it feels like the jack smith case should be the fastest, but it seems to be very slow maybe that's because he had to get up to speed because he got appointed instead of the attorney general doing his job >> it's the most traditional public corruption case prosecutors like cases like that because they like to say documents don't lie. so trump knew what he was supposed to do they have lots of evidence that he obstructed justice in order to get that search warrant they had to provide probable cause to a district judge that obstruction had happened they have videotapes of people moving stuff around. if trump says that, well, he didn't know what was going on, that's not going to seem very credible january 6th is probably the most consequential, again, we don't have to speculate about the damages there. people say, well, we don't know what he did with the classified
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documents. we know on january 6th that hundreds of officers were killed, were injured, five people were killed, and the threats to our democracy are ongoing. >> paul butler, always great to talk to you. thank you very much. >> great to be here. >> in person we love it coming up next on "the reidout," as south florida faces massive flooding and gas shortages, their governor is touring the rest of the united states and declaring a war on woke which he is losing stay with us oh booking.com, ♪ i'm going to somewhere, anywhere. ♪ ♪ a beach house, a treehouse, ♪ ♪ honestly i don't care ♪ find the perfect vacation rental for you booking.com, booking. yeah. (wheezing) asthma isn't pretty. it's the moment when you realize that a good day... is about to become a bad one. but then, i remembered that the world is so much bigger than that, with trelegy. because one dose a day
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where in the world is ron desantis not in his own state, that's for sure where floridians are panicking over major gas supply issues after a storm last week brought torrential rain and flooding, even marco rubio is mad about it >> it's been four days this should have been figured out by now they're blaming it on consumer panic. yeah, people are panicked because they have to get to work they got places to go, and you either can't find gas or have to wait in line for two hours down the street >> what is up with republicans fleeing their states during crisis i'm looking at you, cancun cruz. but it's arguably worse for a governor like desantis to be mia while their state is in peril. since managing state crises is literally a governor's job we ask again, where is he? oh, yes, he's on a book tour
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pitching himself and showing off his presidential ambitions he was in ohio while south florida was under water, in a georgia gun store days after the nashville school shooting, and then in south carolina, delivering word salad diatribes about woke while his own voters endure flash floods. >> so because the woke represents a war on truth, we have no other recourse but to wage a war on woke we fight the woke in the schools, we fight the woke in the legislature. we fight the woke in the corporations we will never, ever surrender to the woke mob florida is where woke goes to die. >> woke, woke, woke, wokete woke seven times in 20 seconds. that's got to be a record. expect more of that in his campaign mailers a pac supporting the pudding finger governor is sending out these presidential starter kits showcasing the man who god made a fighter, including this
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cartoon showing ron knocking out the woke elites, ka-pow. ron and don sure do love those boxing rings last week, after taking a kick dip into florida to sign a six-week abortion bill into law at midnight, he went to nashville, only for a parade of florida republicans to endorse donald trump himself, including mike walz who represents the district desantis held before being governor reportedly, desantis' personality or lack thereof has something to do with it. that's got to sting like, i don't know, two high white boots or getting owned by mickey mouse. there was a time when trump endorsed desantis in 2018 when his gubernatorial campaign boiled down to be a trump sycophant. he even released a cringy ad showing his toddler building a wall with blocks but now, the unthinkable has
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>> florida republicans wer busy yesterday making sure tha your kids don't get murdered i school and making sure that yo can enter your home. no, just kidding they actually spent the bulk o their legislative sessio targeting the lgbtq+ community because lord knows they are th reason that fort lauderdale is under water and gas prices are high yesterday, a state board approved an expansion of the don't say gay law and the hous passed bills on gender transition treatments, bathroo use, and keeping children ou of drag shows. as florida republicans have supermajority in the state continue to assault minority groups, they're not doing so without a fight. here's what state hous democrat, michelle rayner goal be, who is the first openl queer black women in the legislature, had to say abou the expansion of don't say gay
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>> it is telling parents who love and support their childre that the government know better than you. it is telling teachers if they identify outside of this box that we want to create for them, to go back in the closet, or leave, or stop teaching. it is telling children who identify as lgbtq that thi legislature's box is mor important than their very life it is picking and choosing history. members, i will tell you tha we are at midnight we are in a historical midnight not because we have forgotte the power of our story, bu because those in power know th power of our story and they are seeking to ban it at every turn. we are at midnight >> state representative, michelle rayner goolsbee, join me now, and sister, sister representative, i should say yes, florida is at midnight.
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as somebody who lived there fo 14 years and had three childre who raised partly there, it' it makes me so sad, honestly to see where the state has devolved just talk about how it feels you know, to be you in tha legislature, when the governor rapid response director, who used to be his chief troll and media director, tweets out a article about the number o lgbt clients leaving the state within emoji waving goodbye. essentially saying, get th help out of the state. how does it even feel to wor in the legislature with that governor >> i mean, first, it's so good to see you again, joy. you know, it's hard, right and i think what keeps m centered is that i'm very clea on my purpose of why i am here i'm very clear that understand that we are in supermajority and i said yesterday about the math isn't mapping, but i also believ that even though we don't have
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the physical numbers in th house that when we begin t talk and we begin to expos what's happening, that the people on the ground are abl to see and it's hard. i mean, you know, your goo friend and my good friend, senator -- talk often about this about ho you have to build relationship with people who say, i love you, but and when you say i love you, but, you are not only rejectin the fact that i am queer, yo rejecting the fact that i' black, you rejecting the fac that i'm a woman, how i show up, and i show up in the fullnes of who i am. but i'm also very acutely awar that there is a responsibility that i have in this moment, in this particular legislature, t show up for the people who are unable to walk in thos chambers it doesn't feel good i mean, i'm mad as heck, i'm peeves off, but i'm also ver clear as of the purposes as wh i'm here >> you know, the thing is that at the at a time whe
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republicans have a supermajority, meaning they ca do anything, policy wise, that they want. when fort lauderdale is in crisis, when people are sittin in a long gas lines, whe there's rent crisis. miami has had the highes increase in rents in the entir country. when there is a teache shortage of more than 5000 teachers who are not comin back and teachers are quitting because they're terrified, because they, too, are gay o lesbian, or are too afraid t teach their, when books ar being banned, they are banning books and banning gay people and banning drag shows, and no fixing genuine problems. that they really could be doin something about. they are letting more guns i and banning drag shows what are they actually doing with that super majority tha is policy related? >> they are literally, whether doing is that they are attempting to erase anyone who is not a white or republican cisgender, heterosexual man. that's really what they are. full stop. and what's so interesting is
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that you made the point. fort lauderdale is underwater. where's governor desantis? where has he been? he's on a hate tour. he's talking around every othe state, but in the state of florida. i'm forcibly with marco rubi about where the governor is, i mean, make it make sense you know, people often say t me, you know, wrap, you always talk about the black stuff, th gay stuff, and i said listen, know you want me to talk about these mooring, kitchen table issues, but joy, here is the deal if someone believes that you don't exist, i can't get you t that you deserve to have a saf and affordable housing, i can' get used to that you deserve t have food security, because yo are starting with the premis that i don't deserve to exist. in fact, one of the bill sponsors of these transphobi bills said in committee that h wished he could erase the lgbt community. that is what we are dealin
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with in the state of florida and it's being sanctioned by republican leadership and by governor desantis, so this i what we are dealing with so, when we say that we are th party of the loyal opposition, we're not just doing it in word, we're also doing it in deed. and so, i also want to mak this very clear. there are people in this legislature that are pushing back day and night against thi fascism, against this narrative, against making sure that all o our people are seen, all of ou people are heard, and all of our people are represented her in the state of florida. >> i will tell you, we see, we hear you, we support you you do exist you know, the community an florida is finally standing up because one of the things that has hardened me is finally people are in the streets, and i hope that they get in th voting booth because he only got that big reelect because 1.3 million voters stayed home florida representative michelle rayner-goolsby, thank you, thank you, thank you. that is tonight's reidout. all in wit
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