when you read the book >> chris, alyssa, congrats thanks for being here, good to see you. >> that does it for morning jo weekend, we're going to be bac monday at 6 am eastern remember, 12 hours a day, or something like that, have great rest of the day, have great weekend. this is the katie phang show live from miami, florida we've got lots of news to cove and lots of questions to answer, so let's get started supreme decision in the biggest ruling since th overturning of roe v. wade, th supreme court temporaril preserves access to one of the most commonly used abortio pills on the market. the battle is far from over. where two things go from here? we'll break it down, straigh ahead. lost, deadly legislation just weeks after a shootin spree at a nashville school, tennessee republicans make a major move to protect gu

makers and dealers i'll talk to tennessee state senator, london lamar, in just minutes. and later, outfoxed? fox news hit with the bigges media settlement in the united states history, for helpin amplify donald trump's big lie i want to know, has fox news learned its lesson all of that and more, is comin up ♪ ♪ ♪ >> and a good saturday morning to you, i am katie phang for the next 25 days, millions of women across the countr will still have access to th widely used abortion pill, mifepristone the united states supreme cour temporarily pu o lower court rulings that put restrictions on the drug nationwide this means patients can stil access mifepristone, excuse me by mail, and use it up to te weeks of pregnancy as appeal continue to play out in th fifth circuit. but this legal battle coul

take months or even longer joining me now is nbc news investigative reporter, chlo atkins chloe, good morning. thanks for starting us off conservative justices clarence thomas and samuel alito were the only two justices to publicly support keeping those restrictions on th mifepristone in place. justice alito went so far as t write a dissent. what was the reasoning behin his logic? >> good to be with you, katie. as you eloquently laid out, th supreme court moved yesterda to preserve the status quo which means mifepristone, that abortion pill, will remain widely accessible in state where abortion is accessible and a post-roe v. wade world while the supreme court ha preserved access to th abortion pill, alito, like you said, issued a dissent sayin the fda and a pill manufacture we're not able to prove they would have been harmed in th interim. and these regulatory changes made since 2016 would not have kept mifepristone from being accessible however, the fda and the pil

manufacturer have argued tha if the fifth circuit's decisio would have gone into effect or place, it would have cause regulatory chaos now katie, i do want to remind folks of the facts here. if we had rolled back access t the year 2000, access to the pill would have looked s largely different than what we are used to right now, which means we would've gone fro being able to access appea from ten weeks to seven weeks, and folks would've had to go for three visits rather than going, getting it by mail vi telemedicine so, at the very least, acces would have looked a lo different. and it also would've cost a lo of confusion for patients an providers throughout the nation >> so chloe, we've got ora arguments on may 17th, befor the fifth circuit. what are we expecting to occur than >> that's right. we're going back to the fift circuit, where a three judge panel, excuse, people hear the merits of the case and all the sight if judge kacsmaryk's decision out of texas wa

correct in their eyes. but we very well could be back at the supreme court after ora arguments on may 17th. i do want to plug that the spy antiabortion advocates movin to continue to repeal access t abortion in this post-roe v. wade world, it goes agains where austin americans stand o abortion most americans support acces to abortion, and we very muc saw voters doubled down in their support to access in the midterms, katie. >> chloe atkins, thank you again for getting us started this morning and shifting gears, a trio o shootings in missouri, new york, and texas continue to keep a necessary spotlight on our country's desperate need for common sense gun legislation those tragedies come in th wake of incessant mass shootings, including one at an elementary school in nashville last month that left six dead, three of them little kids. instead of taking any action t prevent further gun violence republicans in the tennessee senate this week passed a bill that aims to protect gun

manufacturers, sellers, an dealers from lawsuits. my next guest says quote, we need to do more to protect citizens from gun violence tha the people are making with guns joining me now is tennesse democratic caucus chairwoman senator london lamar senator, thank you so much for joining us this morning. look, i personally was outrage when i read that tennessee republicans want to provid more protections for gun and ammunition companies of course, those are the sam folks that voted to expe representatives justin jones and justin pearson just couple of weeks ago after thei peaceful protest over gu violence where is the protection, senator, for our children an four others? >> i'm just as confused as you are when it comes to what ar we doing when it comes t protecting live ever vulnerable citizens in their state? i thought it was outrigh disrespectful for my colleague to sit here and pass a bill to give more civil protections to gun manufacturers, but you can't simply pass common sense legislation around gun control

in order to make sure those wh should not have guns don't hav them making sure we can put respect in place, or still upholding the second amendment right now, what you are seeing in tennessee's irresponsibilit and downright disregard fo voters the overwhelming majority of people in tennessee want to se reasonable, common sense gun control. but instead, our legislators are saying, we are not going t change laws because of thi moment we're going to continue to double down on everybody's rights to own any type of guns i say, recklessly, allow the nra to continue to have contro over the minds and hearts of our colleagues over the voters and they did this in the fac of thousands and thousands who have consistently, consistently, come to the legislature to protest to ask for reasonabl gun control. it's downright disrespectful and it doesn't make sense. but what i want to say is i at least appreciate our conservator governor, bill lee

for yesterday, as we ended legislation, and our legislative session withou passing any gun control, he ha called on a special sessio this summer to address thi issue, and demand th legislature passed some sort o moderate push for gun contro in our state it's sad that the executiv branch of the legislature ha to do what the legislative branch cannot do what we need to do is put ou partisan, misguided political, ugly side aside, - and do the right thing but unfortunately, what yo have seen over the last month' the republican party i tennessee using immoral idea of being at war with the publi to validate their recently for not passing reasonable gun control. they have expelled legislators they have made calls on vide talking about they are going t vote the wrong way, even thoug they know it's not right they have had all types of scandals and they have seen babies ge

massacred in schools, and they still can't do anything abou it something has to change. >> you know, senator, let' talk about that trio o shootings we mentioned tha happens across the country within a span of a week. keelan gales and her friends turned around in the right driveway ralph yarl accidentally ring the wrong doorbell payton washington tried to get into a car she mistook for her own. these are all common mistake most of us and made. we seem to be living in society of shoot first and ask questions later. what do you say to you constituents who are askin themselves and you, it's anywhere truly safe anymore? >> i would have to agree tha it seems our country and our state is completely unsafe i represent memphis, tennessee which is a city that has bee plagued by gun violence for while. i have been begging my colleagues to pass reasonabl legislation to prevent guns, gun violence in our city and it's falling on deaf ears, or our city has become a littl bit more dangerous than it

should because of th recklessness around guns even our own mayor and polic chief has asked my legislative colleagues do the right thin in the past reasonable, common sense legislation around gun violence, and gun reform and they refused to do it. i will say that all of m constituents who are still voting for the republicans they need to take their dollar and their votes somewhere else and vote for people who ar actually going to keep the safe, because my colleagues ar now creating an unsafe, stat where people don't want to com here but what i want to encourage m constituents is, to not give up continue to vote continue to speak out. continue to show up. because a change will come we are having a specia session. the governor is listening. so hopefully, we can't get mor of our republican colleagues o board now that session is over in between now and the special session, to look at th research, talk to families, an at least show some compassio and grace to make sure we ar keeping our state safe tennessee has a lot of great

things to offer out of touch winds, and people around the country. let's not dissuade them from continuing to invest in ou state because we can't pas reasonable laws around gun violence >> we're going to keep an ey on your state, senator, to see if that red flag law actuall sees the light of day. tennessee state senator london lamar, thank you so much for spending time with us this morning. i appreciate it. and today's birthday president biden has acted on his promise to provide clean air and water to vulnerabl communities nationwide the president signed a executive order yesterday, establishing a new offic within the white house o environmental justice. the office will oversee ne directives, including requirin agencies to notify nearb communities about any releases of toxic substances from federal facilities and still to come this morning on the katie phang show, florida man versus the house o mouse. ron desantis appears to be losing his war against disney,

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court, for now, is protectin access to a key abortion pil used for more than half of abortions in the united states today. that next stop for whether mifepristone will continue t be prescribed and used is oral arguments at the fifth circuit court of appeals in new orlean slated for may 17th. while the future of the pill hangs in legal limbo, one thin we do now is reproductiv rights still remain unde threat here are two dark realities on possible restrictions fo mifepristone women would be banned from using that past had seven week

of pregnancy, a time point mos women are not where they are pregnant second, it would also requir three in person doctor visit prohibiting women from receiving the medication b mail joining me now for more is florida state representative robbyn borrow man. good morning, representative borromean. i am grateful for you to joi us, excuse, me this morning. you've been very vocal about what pulling the abortion pill from the market with you two women across the country what do you think about th latest news coming from th supreme court this morning >> i am glad there is a stay but i am here to tell you that in florida, we essentially hav an outright abortion ban in th state. last week, we passed legislation that prohibits and abortion after six weeks as a woman and to all the wome out there, you know how your period works you don't even realize you missed a period until after si weeks. so, by the time you find out your pregnant, it's too late t access to essential care her in the state of florida.

>> you have your own, very personal story about having th autonomy to decide for yourself about terminating a pregnancy. you said, when we discusse this, the only people in the room where my doctor, my husband, and my god. courtesy of ron desantis and the gop supermajority, jus like you mentioned right now florida now has a six-week abortion ban what was your reaction to your colleagues across the aisle in their hard-core pursuit of thi six-week ban >> well, it was incredibly emotional, because we have actually debated this thre years and i wrote now. and last year, we had 15-wee bands. and if you give the republican an inch, they'll take a mile and they said, we're done that 15 weeks they had no exceptions for rap and incest, which is disgraceful and horrible yet here they come again, an now we have essentially an outright abortion ban. and all of our pleas, we filed

15 amendments, because las year's bill and this year' bill have significant if you and they fell on deaf ears you have ana and shown they, within that he spoke about o the floor. i filed an amendment to protec women like anya and shanae they didn't debate it. they fell on deaf ears, an they voted against it. that is because what i happening here in the state of florida now and last year is that doctors are afraid to perform essential medical care to their patients. when you talk about tanya an shanae, they have -- on yet was forced to deliver her dead baby on a toilet seat in a hair salon. she went to the hospital she begged for care. but doctors are afraid in th state of florida right now they are a flight of a third degree felony. they are afraid of what is going to happen to them. we have debris from lake land, who had potters syndrome the doctor didn't even make th decision it was the hospital. so, we have doctors in florida

playing lawyers, lawyers i florida playing doctors, and meanwhile, women can't get health care. that is a huge problem, an that is a result, a direct result, of this bill they refused to address any of those issues >> let's talk about this though 57% of registered voters continue to support the idea o access to abortion medication. what it's saying, though, that constituents, voters, ar putting people into office lik you and your colleagues in tallahassee, and yet six-wee abortion bans, morris on mifepristone, continue to be advanced across the board in terms of legislative action? >> well, i think the telltal sign is the governor signe this bill at night when he signs his bills, h likes to have press all around him. he likes to make sure everyone is paying attention. news conferences at noon durin the highlight times. and he signed it in the dead o night, because we know

floridians do not want thi bill we know this bill is bad for women. it's bad for families. look, i had a very much wanted pregnancy. i went through infertility t get pregnant, because i wanted that baby, and i was told ahea a fatal fetal abnormality. a fetal abnormality. i have to make a decision. you know what? it was the worst decision ever had to make in my life. i had legal paths. do i go through the pregnancy? why not go through with th pregnancy? i prayed every single day. but desantis, the florid legislature, they do not belon in that room with me they did not belong -- they didn't have a spot on tha legal path, and now, they have inserted themselves into every exam room, into every house, into every family's personal business it is -- people don't wake up and say, want to have an abortion never in 1 million years did i ever think i would contemplate having an abortion but it's a reality that someon

has to face, and that is their personal decision. no one belongs in that room. no one has a right to make tha decision for them. and as you saw on the floor, the majority of people who debated were republican men. they don't even have uteruses! they're telling us what to d with our bodies. even now, i get so emotional because my daughters are wakin up in the state of florida wit fewer rights then when the were born. so, i need the women of florida, the republican women independent women, the democratic women, to wake up you know, elected desantis overwhelmingly in this state and he just took away your right to reproductive freedom. >> representative, what are yo telling your constituents when they express fear to you about what they're going to be abl to do now? i'm not suggesting you are a medical provider in any way, but i'm sure they're asking you, you are battling this battle

for them in tallahassee. you're trying to make sure tha their rights, individual rights, are protected, to be able to choose these decisions very quickly, can you tell u what you are telling you voters >> well, first of all, i'm telling them right now, unti the court decision is made they still have access to an abortion up to 15 weeks. and they need to continue to reach out to florida planned parenthood we have another scheme operating here in florida, and they are called pregnanc centers. if you drive down the florid turnpike, there are actually billboards all over that say call if you are pregnant when you go to these pregnancy centers, their whole purpose i to convince you not to get a abortion the shame you. they tell you, this is not wha you should be doing. so, i'm telling them, be smart go to a florida planne parenthood don't go to one of these clinics that are going to tr to talk you out of it. they're going to embarrass you they're going to tell you that you're going to tell you parents, because they're not medical providers. there's no confidentiality whe

you go to these clinics. they are giving these clinic millions of dollars, so go t florida planned parenthood the most important thing i that they need the vote. they need to come out and vote our daughters lives depend o this look, this is not the first ba bill they've passed. don't trust them because they said abortion was going to stop at 15 weeks, guess what we have an essential outrigh abortion ban they said, don't say gay was only for kindergarten throug third great, and eight-year-olds. it's k-12. don't give them any more roo to take away our rights. >> florida state representativ robin bartleman, thank you for sharing your personal journe and for fighting the goo fight. i appreciate it. >> thank you >> and coming up, fox news paying the big price for the big lie. i'll go one-on-one with one of the lead attorneys for dominion, and i will share what i' looking forward to, 2.7 billio dollar -

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history. averting a hotly anticipatin six-week trial, with the jur already sworn in and literally just before opening statements were set to begin. fox news and storming in votin so sums reached an agreement over the networks disseminatio of lies about the 2020 presidential election. the nearly 800 million dolla settlement came before a hig profile fox news names lik tucker carlson, sean hannity took the stand, but not before the founder of the network rupert murdoch, admitted in sworn deposition under oath, that he believes the 202 election was free and fair, an had not been stolen, as former president donald trump has repeatedly claimed joining me now for more is steven shackleford, one of the lead attorneys for dominion.

steven, i saw you a couple o days ago in wilmington i do want to say congratulations again on the outcome, but look, for a few days out now from th settlements. there has been criticism ove not going forward with the trial to verdict, some outlets calling it a split decision, a win for rupert murdoch, on headline saying fox news los the lawsuits, but won the war. but let's be clear, i'm former trial lawyer as well. you were in the trenches for this legal battle from the ver beginning. so, what is your response to those critics? >> look, i understand people's disappointment that we didn' have a trial, that we were all preparing to go through. but i think what i hope people understand when they sit bac and think about this i dominion and dominion's owners including john kudos and - they wanted accountability and they wanted justice for th company and they didn't settle this case last year. that was very important to them they were not ready to settl this case last year. what they wanted was to get th truth out, and as you know katie, being a trial lawyer,

the truth is usually in th documents. you don't often get people o the stand breaking down an admitting that they committe the crime. so, we got those documents out of the filings we did earlie this year. well over 600 documents, internal documents, texts, and emails that is what really proved, as we were going to show at trial that we showed at judgment that is proof that fox knowingly spread these lies. they were saying one thing behind there's closed doors an telling their viewers somethin completely different and false so, i think we were no intending, i was not intending to settle this case on the eve of trial the intended to do my openin statement that they, and t move forward but both goals, dominion accomplish both goals. they got accountability throug getting those documents ou into public record, and they got justice and some measure o compensation for the company i the largest known defamation settlement in american history >> and i can vouch, stephen. you are wired up and ready t go you are miked up, about to d the opening statements

but let's stick for one more question about this issue of the settlement we don't have an on air apolog from fox news for it dissemination and endorsemen of these false election claims but the network did issue written statement that read, i part, we acknowledge the court rulings finding certain claims about dominion to be false this next sentence drives me nuts, the settlement reflect foxes continued commitment t the highest journalistic standards. putting aside that secon statement, stephen, to you point, strategically, dominion didn't settle before those documents. that evidence released for public consumption, until we got that order on those motion for summary judgment clearly stating, or judge davis, sai it's crystal clear what wa said about dominion was false. does the fact that that writte statement from fox, combined with that 787.5 million dollar settlement, achieve th accountability your client o seeking? i know the ceo of dominion wrote an op-ed for the new yor times saying it's still kind o bittersweet for him.

>> it's definitely bittersweet it accomplish the goal, katie, when we talk about an apology, getting an apology for a settlement, you know this having been a trial lawyer an apology forced to a settlement is hollow it's pretty meaningless. so that was not, at least in m view, an important part of this even if you got fox to make th apology once on each of thei shows, i don't think tha would've changed very much o anything for fox viewers what fox viewers need to see i the truth over and over agai on major news, like th election in 2020 we couldn't force that through a lawsuit. if we had won the lawsuit at the end of the day and gotten massive judgment, fox didn't have to cover its. the court wasn't going to forc them to broadcast an particular thing on their air. in my mind, fox news had t apologize. fox knows how to tell th truth. the internal documents that we exposed in this lawsuit prov that fox news have to tell the truth. but no outside forces going to force them to do that. >> let's talk about that

repetition of truth you just mentioned. fox news isn't the only networ that is being sued or was sued by dominion for false election claims news max, one america news network, our lawsuits that are still in the pipeline, as well as mike lindell, that my pillo guy. sydney powell, and rud giuliani, to just name a few so steven, what's the latest o those cases? are there any lessons learne from the case against fox that could be used as a blueprint moving forward with those cases? >> >> so, those cases are al moving forward with discovery. but going to start defamatio probably a little later this summer we've been exchanging document requesting all the normal stuf here you remember from practicing katie, those cases are probabl not going to go to trial until next year at the earliest. some of those cases are goin to be different kinds of cases when you sue individuals for spreading lives, it's different kind of case than media case but we do have media cases remaining against newsmax in delaware, and one american new in washington, d.c.. and, we are going to press forward. dominion and john toulouse and

staples tree are committed t the same kind of accountabilit for each of those defendants forgetting discovery, fo exposing what they knew when they knew it, why they moved forward anyway with the lies ultimately, moving to tria with every one of them >> stephen shackelton, a gun congratulations on the outcome of your case i appreciate you taking th time to be here this morning thank you. >> thank you, katie. good to see you. >> and up next, it's man versu mouse. here in florida, inside the wa with disney that governor ro desantis is losing again pretty badly i'm katie phang, we'll be righ back ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ defeat allergy headaches fast with new flonase headache and allergy relief! two pills relieve allergy headache pain? and the congestion that causes it! flonase headache and allergy relief. psst! psst! all good!

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desantis's war on the most magical place on earth continues and when it's al done, he may need some mouse ears and a turkey like to make him feel better. the governor announcing ne legislation this week that would require just need to fal in line with further inspections of its park from the state's oversight board. desantis's bullying disney wit threats of hiking of the company's tax utility rates, and even proposing the idea of building a competing theme par or a prison next to disney world. but mickey mouse and the clubhouse are prepared for the fight. desantis's handpick anti wok

oversight board recently discovered that this kne already made an agreement in february, that allows th company to set utility rates for its resort through 2032, a time when desantis will no longer be governor disney also hit back b announcing a first of its kind lgbtqia plus event at it disneyland park in california. to take place during pride month. remember, this feud starte last year when distant criticize desantis for targeting the lgbtq communit with his don't say gay law which, by the way was, expande for all public classroom through 12th grade joining me now is former florida republican congressman and msnbc political analyst, david jolly. no, he's no longer part of the republican party david, it's only been a fe hours since i just saw you, so i want to thank you for joinin us this morning as always. desantis just said yesterday david, that he has been able t quote, operate and administration that does not get consumed in pett controversy or trauma. we're going to take a beat

honestly david, how else would you categorize this tit-for-ta war that he has commenced with disney >> very simple vanity and vengeance ron desantis, somebody who thinks he is the smartes person in the room, who does not want to be challenged, wha we saw in his response to this needs public criticism of th don't say gay bill is not unde the legal terms, publi corruption, but at some type o public corruption. the governor using the leverag of the state to target a specific corporation this is taxing status is not unique in the state of florida there's about 100 of these special districts. this is about retribution. it was about desantis's vanity and vengeance, and i think you are seeing the cracks no within the republican party. state legislators are gettin tired of the governors or on disney you are seeing republicans nationally who are trying to say, occupy a main space withi the republican party, chri sununu, chris christie comin out and criticizing desantis but the caveat, the bigges criticism of all in th

republican politics actually came from justin amash, th leader of the freedom caucus that ron desantis considered himself parts of in the house, the true libertarians, who hav come out and said what rhond sanchez is doing does no reflect republican values. >> let's talk about thos cracks in that veneer. just last week, media reportin that a major republican dono hit the brakes in his financia support of ron desantis becaus of his positions on the only abortion, that six-wee abortion ban, and book banning if more donors stop courting ron desantis, because we kno he has received a lot of money under this guise of hi gubernatorial campaign, whic we all know is for his presidential race, do you thin that will stop his trajectory? it absolutely could. rhonda sanchez has built a national infrastructure that will rival any presidentia campaign there's a depth to the infrastructure he's built. he's relied on major donors, and those donors are questioning whether or not the can get behind desantis. i think it's related to tw things

one, you, mentioned overreac on culture wars are out of the mainstream and are a losin strategy for a general election, and don't want to be with th winner secondly, he is showing himsel to be unprepared and perhaps even not qualified to be president of the united states and i think we really have t start to examine that wounds h is self inflicting in thes past few weeks, are they permanent? if he actually knocking himsel out of the race? but rumor is he may in fac announce his run on july 4th after the legislative session. katie, the more people see ron desantis, the more his numbers fall he could announce on july 4t and plummet further. not get a bump from th announcement, but get a bump down, and really wound himself further. >> well, david, let's talk about a lack of support an that does come from youn people, smart people we always say, the kids ar good the kids are all right you know, young people are making their stance very clear florida students staged walkout yesterday over the expansion of the don't say gay law.

republicans are alread struggling to court youn voters, as we know if desantis decides to run david, how much of an uphill battle if he's going to face with that particular votin bloc he is trailing trump by 13% in a head to head matchup according to a new poll from the wall street journal that just came out yesterday. >> i think ron desantis and th republican nomination is going to have a hard time with young people this is a generation that is used to code red drills in their schools. school shootings, school gun violence the republicans refused to d anything about it. a party that crushes diversity and diversity of once identity a party that has declared wa on the lgbtq community a party that is actually using the leverage of government t be a big government in peoples homes and in their families an their bedrooms so, the younger generation says, why would i associate with today's republican party certainly, if on the census is the face of that, ron desantis is going to have a hard time but those issues translate fro that younger community, also t

suburban communities persuadable voters, an suburban moms who are raisin those young people who care about their kid ability to live the life the want and the best life they ca have growing up. republicans today are out of step with the general election constituency,. and i think that will show i the numbers, come next november >> they've, it i got just abou a minute i do want to ask, i am a south florida, you're not down her with us, but your floridians the census has come under fire because while he is ou calaveritas on his book tour floridians are dealing with major gas supply issue after a one in 1000 your store las week that brought torrential rain and flooding. the epa now has to step into the state of florida to help increase gas supplies. how can voters nationally coun on run desantis to serve the country, when he can't eve serve voters in his own state? >> katie your, spot on ron desantis is proving to be very incompetent governor when it comes to the administration of the state, and donald trump

has an opportunity t demonstrate that we are seeing the gas shortage you saw a slow response to the reigns a week or two ago, bu you had an affordability crisi in both rents an homeownership. home insurance and property ta crisis you have the prevalence of gun on the rise. you have education in crisis you have seniors questioning their ability to stay in the state. you have health care acces issues in florida. florida, by some studies, is the least affordable state t live in now. all of that is under rhond sanchez, while he is gallivanting across the country, and now overseas florida is falling and, so ron desantis the, on hit people haven't seen laid o him, it's his incompetence as governor, and his incompetence he would take to the white house. donald trump, but one candidat that could light that lit on around desantis, could make it stick. >> donald trump is thinking of new names as you and i are standing here, speaking. former congressman david jolly and friends, i want to thank you for joining me thi morning.

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according to the cdc, one in 3 children are on the spectrum with notably higher rate amongst minority groups an profound autism being more common in girls than boys. but some people aren't eve diagnosed until later in life. our next guest has always been open about her story after being diagnosed as an adult in her experience as a legislator has allowed for a differen perspective in office. joining me now is former new york state assembly member yulín knew it is so good to see you i obviously wanted to have you

on to be able to have this conversation talk to my viewers about the importance ofusing this mont to highlight the experiences o people who have been diagnosed with autism spectrum disorder. >> so, i think it's really important for us to know tha throughout diversity i something that is very muc coming into awareness now that lots of people think differently and it's totally okay to. that's why it's so important t have this month to really be able to think about consciously, some of the things that people with different disabilities go through and folks that are neurodiverse go through. i think is really importan that we have this month to d that i really appreciate yo actually putting it in the highlight. >> of course and i was noticing the statistic. i wanted to share with you that cdc is reporting as well tha are estimated 5.5 million of american adults have bee diagnosed with autism.

you yourself were diagnosed at the age of 22. how has that later diagnosis impacted your life, if at all? >> i think one of the bigges things was obviously seeing al of the things just kind of mak more sense, right? once i received my diagnosis, was actually relieved. to understand why i thought certain way, how things work with my own brain, and also, some of the things that i like about myself that we'r actually what people might see as part of being on the autism spectrum disorder. and i think one of the things personally felt was importan was to destigmatize and really be open with my story, because a lot of times, people have stigma when it comes to bein diagnosed with asd >> there's one recent studie

have shown autism can go unnoticed in adults. it's because they are really good at masking. the studies have also show women in particular will wor extra hard to hide their autistic traits. did you also experienced thi as you were growing up >> i think that was part of wh i wasn't diagnosed i -- that was probably also part of the statistics, right? the fact of the matter is, women and girls often tend t not be diagnosed due to th fact that they are better at social masking which, i think, folks probably also should know that bein forced to mask and being force to socially mask anti certai stemming behavior, et cetera actually have been proven to cause depression and exited an so i think that is reall important that folks are knowledgeable about some o those things >> you've also talked openly about how identifying as being neurodivergent means you'v constantly had to carve ou

space for yourself and for others to have a seat at the table. tell the fireworks how important it is for th disabled and neurodivers communities to be a part of th legislative process? >> i think a lot of times, whe we're talking about certai disabilities, it's really easy to erase or certain people don't have to think abou certain things, because they have a privilege not to an that is why it's so importan for folks with different perspectives and different lenses to be able to bea representative in office, to b representative at the table and, this is the only way we will b able to have that kind o access that we deserve people don't really think abou certain needs. for example, i think this is a lot more blatant, right. for example, using sig language when you have hearings using certain things that will help disability communities. you need to also be able to be part of our government process and this is something i am constantly talking about because it is so important for us different ways of thinking, or

also, one of the things that really, people don't realize actually have an impact. if you are on certai medications for adhd, fo example, you would have an issue with trying to get pregnant, trying to -- you have to get off certai medications to be able to th able to get pregnant or, go through ivf therapy, go through any of these things. people that really sees things unless we talk about them, and these are also things we hav to make sure that people hav access to in policy, right people have to understand ho to make sure that people hav access to health care in policy, access to services in policy and we have noticed that a lot of students are able to ge certain care because they ar not diagnosed properly, or the are diagnosed, you know, jus specifically for care. >> i want to thank you yuh-line niou, for sharing you journey and experiences with u during this very important

month. thank you for being here >> thank you so much for havin me >> of course and thank all of you for joining me this morning. i'll be back here tomorrow where i will welcome walte shaub, former director of th united states office o government ethics for th latest supreme court justice clarence thomas ongoin controversy. you can keep up with u following katie phang show o twitter, instagram, and tiktok stay tuned saturday show with my friend jonathan capehart, is coming u next

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