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off. donald trump takes on rhonda scent this and the florida

governor seems to be crumbling it's his presidential campaign over before it even begins then, judicial ethics, the cal to investigate clarence thomas are growing. i'll speak with congressma hank johnson, one of the democrats leading the charge t try to hold thomas accountable and or start the week, it's battle for the most tone tha the campaign announcements you will want to stick aroun for these once i am ayman mohyeldin, let's ge started. ♪ ♪ ♪ all right, so in politics, lik in life, the little things matter most. great politicians like joe biden, nancy pelosi, barac obama, they have an almost innate ability to appreciate the little things. think about bill clinton snack for remembering the names of voters he met years earlier or even ronald reagan's habit o enjoying a jog at the end of the day with then speaker ti o'neill. it was those small gesture

that mean a great deal to th people on the receiving end of them, and they are part of wha makes the best politicians the best, and then there is ro desantis this week, politico gifted u with this headline about the florida governor's trip to washington, how to lose friend and eliminate people and the 24 hours before th sense that for the sea, to florida republicans, joh rotator and greg steube voiced their support for donald trump in 2024. a third congressman, brian mast, once thought to be a close desantis ally shortly file suit, but far more embarrassin was what happened with republican lance gooden of texas who walked out of hi meeting with desantis to announce his endorsement o donald trump, not rhonda scent this to outsiders, desantis seeme destined to fall in th footsteps of trump becomes a forest new standard bearer, at least what some had oh for he had a strong return performance. he's leading the conservativ culture wars and the culture

he's getting glowing coverag on fox, and yet, despite all that, it seems a lot of actual republicans, both electe officials and average jo six-packs, they just aren' into rhonda scent this it is showing up in the polls. a new wall street journal poll has trump leading the sentence by 15 points among likel republican primary voters, and it is clear as day in and nort spence as well 50% of florida's republica house delegation has already endorsed trump that is even before rhonda scent this has officiall announced his campaign let me go back to my point her about the little things for moment it's not just electe republicans are not backin desantis, it's why those republicans are not backin him. here is a former republica congressman described desantis just this week i sat right next to desantis for two years on the foreign affairs committee, and he neve said a single word to me i was new to congress, and h did not introduce them suffe even say hello

congressman steube told th hill this week that after he was hospitalized for falling off a ladder, rhonda scent thi never bothered to call him donald trump has a knack for taking down his opponents, but the hits rhonda scent this i this week were actually's ow doing. there are not just coming from trump. his own people, republicans, including many republicans i his state seem to believ desantis is missing something, that he's not ready fo primetime. maybe former congressman - said it best when he said, i you are going to go into politics, a fundamental skil that you should have i likability, i don't think he has it i think he is an a whole joining me now is fernand amadi, executive pb and - he is a msnbc political animus and -- danielle moodie, host of wal back us and co-host that the new abnormal podcasts.

and jason selvig, comedian for the good liars it's good to have all of you back on the show daniela, start with you on thi one. these republicans, they almost seem to be enjoying humiliatin round desantis why? he was at one point, built a the second biggest start in th gop, he has not yet declared that he is running for president, i don't understan why they are not even waitin to see if he gets in the race. they are already endorsing trump and basically overlookin rhonda scent is at this point. >> i think that the last quote did, it right? no one likes him, he is kind o a jerk you could sit next to somebody i think a thing without th sentences that he thought that pushing out all of the hateful policies that he has done, creating a hate state and where, woke, quote unquote, goes to die in florida he thought that would be enough frankly, guess what, peopl

actually need to like you. that's the things that the about our presidential politic is that we still want to b able to go and have a drin with the person that is runnin for president, and likabilit matters. rhonda scent is does not hav it for all of the policy measures that they like, let's be clear like he is aligned with donald trump on policy, but they just want to hang out with donald trump. donald trump makes them feel good about themselves. ron desantis just does not hav that sparkle >> i was going to say, i matters who you are and a whol to donald trump is not exactly th poster boy of kindness and love i guess he is not an a whole t some republicans that he i seeking their endorsements unless of course, they pitcher him and then he throws the under the bus like mike penc or any of these other ones but for non, this week, we got word that gop donors are questioning desantis's fitness for a white house run. you have billionaire - saying that he is pausing al funding on desantis. why is this happening now?

why not months reena >> ayman, it's happening because donald trump is runnin away with the republican primary nomination, accordin to polls, at least the specter of jeb bush 2016 i hanging over the head of a lot of donors. do the really want to pump and countless millions of dollar over what is looking like it that candidacy votes matter in politics money is certainly important but as daniel alluded to over what is looking like it that candidacy votes matter in politics money is certainly important but as daniel alluded to earlier, relationships are als critical right now, ron desantis's lack of relationships in republican circles, especially florida, they have the simulating scenario where more than a hal at the republican congressiona delegation say, no, we've take a look at the city governor an go the other way it's just been a massive blo to his candidacy, and i know for a fact the people inside the sent this rope right now are questioning, are we riskin even more long term damage

getting into this race and getting obliterated by donal trump? that is the question going o in desantis headquarters right now. >> you understand the jeb bush comparison, does he get in the race and get his caree destroyed like a jeb bush, o does he sit this one out lik mike pompeo, possibly live t fight another day in four years, who knows? jason, you do the hard work. you go to those republican voters and speak to them all the time what have you've been hearin about ron desantis >> i hear rod desantis i always the number two. some people upset on the road, they say, we need to move on from donald trump, at leas that is what they said las summer but right now, at the nr convention, we asked a coupl of people, and they were firml behind donald trump. i kind of had to agree with yo with the jeb bush comparison because he is like a guide tha looks good on paper. they want the elections, got voters to the polls, the hom state.

but he does not have the charisma of someone that you would want to be the front runner for the political party i am worried that he is more o a rick perry or jeb bush rings under the bright lights. we might be six months awa from desantis begging an audience to please clap. >> oh, man, what a moment that was. i totally remember that. please clap, please. jason, let me follow u quickly. what did you make that the borough putting fingers anti desantis at this week? this has been on a death on hi things to emerge in this non campaign campaign. is this trump getting out earl and the finding desantis wit the way he did low energy ja on lying ted cruz -- >> i guaranteed 4% right now he is like if it was not the putting commercial, it was rhonda sanctimonious o whatever nickname. he will be taking credit for

all of this. >> meathead iran - >> as he said that publicly yet? he did say meathead ron. >> i am not making it up that is not mine >> that was not yours? >> i can take credit for tha one. the interesting thing, going back, they know, run desanti and what he's done with florida, he's actually picking fights he's making culture wars central to his governorship, and now you've got disne reportedly telling its lobbyis to go on the offensive against iran desantis and his rallie and tests a hasse. i guess, a, this disney sens blood in the water and as ru open this front that he did no necessarily need >> i mean, he got into a fight that he's not going to be able to back up walt disney is the number one, i believe, employer of all o florida. they are bringing in billion of dollars to the state, and

ron desantis is calling them a woke corporation and on people what, not to go to disney? i think it's absolutel ridiculous he is doing these fights the other ones, look, he has a six-week florida abortion ban, he has the don't say gay bil expended he is doing irreparable harm - >> dissenting markets th states, putting them on buses. >> he's pulling politica stunts, but he is also keeping up with the white, evangelical christian belief for wha america should look like, right? but this fight with disney he's going to lose, because he does not have what it takes to go up against this multi billion dollar, belove american company and take it down >> is there a way for him to turn around, fernand before we start writin desantis's campaign eulogy, yo look at somebody like barack obama, he had a very rocky spring and summer in 200 before, of course, ultimatel winning the white house. but to jason's point, barack

obama had charisma he may not have had th experience or name recognition did not have a nationa spotlight going up against hillary clinton, but h definitely had the charisma. ron desantis has the nationa spotlight. he has the experience, so to speak. is there a way for him to turn this around? >> oh, absolutely. it's called the electability argument right now, rhonda scent this i only hope is to be able to g to republican donors and primary donors and say, hey, i you don't want another fou years of joe biden, you can' nominate donald trump because, biden right now is defeating trump and the head to head matches. while in some other ke battleground states, desanti is either tied or ahead of biden right now. that is increasingly, ayman, becoming the one argument that he and his team will play to the problem is, the argument works well when you have a political party that is base on logic and reason. it does not work well in political walls, which is what the republican party right now is

it is the trump political cult as long as the cult leader trump, says that he wants to run for president, to be the nominee in 2024, the co-leader once with the cult leader gets as we have seen trump do in th past, he gave it, desantis, he nominated and endorsed him t become the governor nominee an governor in 2018 trump also taketh away right now, he takes away desantis's claim to be a nominee. >> to your point, i think trump when he endorsed peopl like herschel walker and mehme oz look at how well that turned out for republicans. i guess that is something abou the republican party guys, we are just gettin started. don't go anywhere. i'll talk to you later on in the hour after the break, i am speaking with congressman hank johnso on the house judiciary committee on his push to hav clarence thomas investigated but first, just elaine is here with the headlines hey, jess. >> hey, ayman, stories we're watching this hour the u.s. embassy in sudan is warning american citizens ther

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so they can do more of what matters. senate and house judiciary benefits. payroll. compliance. trinet. people matter. committees cranked up ramped u their efforts to hold -- dick terrebonne has asked chie justice john roberts too testify on the ethics, saying, quote, the steady stream o revelations for guarding justice is falling short o ethical standards. just today, there been confirmed that roberts has not yet responded to the invitation, instead referring to request t the judicial conference, which serves as the policy makin body of the federal courts also this week, democratic congressman hank johnson and senator sheldon whitehouse wen

one step further, requesting that the judicial conference referred justice thomas to the u.s. attorney general fo potential violations of th ethics and government act of 1978 congressman johnson is a senio member of the house judiciar committee and the rankin member of the subcommittee overseeing federal courts, including the supreme court. he joins me now. congressman, it's great to see you again, thank you for comin back on the show tell us about this request t the judicial conference, wha is it about the ethics i government act that yo specifically want looked into? >> the ethics in government -- and thank, you ayman, fo having me tonight. the ethics and government ac requires the reporting of gift and hospitality, does not deal with - or did not deal with travel as interpreted by the judicia conference until a clarification over the las month or so, but at any rate reporting requirements and

justice thomas has run roughshod over those reporting requirements but even more important than failing to properly account an report and disclose the gifts, the luxurious hospitality, hotels, meals, lodging transportation on a private je and on a super yacht, in addition to not disclosing those things, i think it's mor profound that he even thos gifts to a supreme court justice, to accept gifts and that and any kind of expensive lavish - large yes from a person who ha interest, business interest an social social interests before

the court, is wrong. he should never have brought this kind of this honor to the supreme court by accepting jus from somebody like harlan crow a billionaire, dark mone social proponent o conservative issues that frequently appeared before the court, and then justice thomas rules religiously and reliably in the way that harlan crow, the billionaire, advocates for it's wrong it holds the court in dishonor and for that reason, justice thomas, just correcting hi financial reports, is not good enough now he needs to resign >> it's not sufficient enoug that he's just going back an revising most of us would not be give that second chance and yet, senate republicans, not surprisingly, they are dismissing calls to hold hearings into thomas you've got senator jon kennedy who sits on the judiciar committee saying that he is no concerned about thomas's ethic

violations with gop megadono harlan crow. he says, quote, justices lik senators and reporters are entitled to have friends here is the thing, congressman having friends is not th problem here, although it is that, as you outlined, h failed to disclose that hi friend is paying for his trave and real estate deals, right >> he never should be taking these kinds of gifts fro anybody, whether or not it's a friend or not. by the way, it should be important to note that clarenc thomas became friends with harlan crow a few years afte he was put on the suprem court. i submit to you that harla crow would not want to hav anything to do with a guy like clarence thomas, if clarence thomas were not in a positio of authority and in a position to help him. so, while they both profess to be dear friends with each other, that's just code language that

they use bottom line is, clarence thoma has become used to taking thes lavish vacations every year, every summer, using th airplane and super yacht to ge around the world on 500,00 dollar excursions, on a regula basis. position of being compromised. he is holding himself to a lesser ethical standard then lower court judges have to abide by that's not right, especially for the highest court in the land who have no standards whatsoever, that's why senator whitehouse and i hav introduced the supreme court ethics recusal and transparenc

act, also known as assert ac searched act, that would force the indicted state supreme court to put forward a code of conduct and also strengthe those reporting requirements i the campaign - ethics and government act. it would also create a mechanism whereby ethica violations by a supreme cour justice could be heard by an independent panel and rule upon if he is out of bounds, then the court would define or th committee would find that yo car out of bounds and they would recommend some kind of penalty. so, that's the kind of accountability that is neede for supreme court justices at this point, they operat

without public accountability, and as a result, we see th kind of corruption that ha invaded the court with clarenc thomas being exhibit a, an former justice scalia bein exhibit two. >> you bring up a lot of reall important points again, all eyes on chief justice john roberts this is his court at the moment and it's crickets, so we wil see if it does respond to th letter that you sent, and if h does take any action to try to bring some transparency to the court. congressman hank johnson, is it's always a pleasure, sir, thank you for joining us >> thank you >> up next, days after house republicans unveiled a deb ceiling plan, guess what they are already makin changes. i will explain why it's good to go. before advil. advil dual action fights pain two ways. advil targets pain at the source, acetaminophen blocks pain signals.

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whether the bill has the votes to pass in the house it was just introduced earlier this week. meaning, after only a couple o days, house republicans have already lost faith in their ow leadership vision. here is president biden this week knocking the gop economic goals, watch >> two days ago, the speaker o the house, kevin mccarthy went to wall street to describe the maga economic vision for america. do you think he told the wealthy and powerful that it's about time to tape step up and pay their fair share not a word instead, he proposed to us cuts and imports and ver important programs for million of hardworking americans count on >> back with me is my saturday night panel. fernand amandi, i'll start wit you. do you see a way for mccarth to thread this needle? how can he appease his ultra conservatives who are demandin the uppercuts, stricte languages on work requirements for food stamps while holdin on to the so-called moderate who are already about to wal

from this? >> in a word, no, ayman, i don't see how he threads the needle this is perilous politics, whe you sell your soul to become speaker and, in essence, giv one republican congressman the right to call you out an paralyze your speakership, tha is what kevin mccarthy i struggling with right now. but, ayman, what i think is so key here, at this point to not be lost, the republicans are playing the most cynical o games on the that ceiling. i think what they're ultimatel trying to do in their extremis calculus, saying, if we brin this the debt default, the voters will a bentley blame th president in charge, if th economy collapses in 2024. make no mistakes, a debt default, an unprecedented event, will bring about not a recession but probable depression it would wipe out tens o millions of jobs it would destroy the economy and i think that cynical gam is what they are playing

it is incumbent on president biden and democrats to make al of the american voters wit strict, laser focused messag discipline know that if this happens, this is the responsibility of the extrem maga republican party led by the congressional republican majority if he does not let that messag cement, this could come back and bite him with the cynica dangerous game that the plane. >> so, danielle moodie, fo fernand did just incredible jo of laying out the politics o this side. -- i want to talk about how draconian this debt ceilin bill is. the gop compromise would reportedly require medicai recipients to work 80 hours pe month. how are get they going to sell that to the american people? >> well, their goal, ayman it's never to sell a goal to the american people. they want to restrict people's ability to vote. so long as you are onl choosing your voters, you don' really care about what kind of policies are putting togethe

for them the fact is that fernand i right. the democrats need to do the messaging job here this is a messaging job abou who cares about the middle class and working families, an it is not the republican party they are on yachts takin 500,000 dollar trips lik clarence thomas and doing th most to their billion dollar friends and donors at the end of the day, it' democrats that need to say, we are the ones that are lowering prescription drug costs. we are the ones that are makin affordable to put food and medicine on your table at th same time, right republicans here are punishing you for being low income, ar punishing you for needin assistance from the government as opposed to wanting to hel the least among us they need to send that message everywhere that they possibl can because when it comes to what is coming in 2024, if i is a deep recession or depression, they are going t hang this on joe biden joe biden is assured the receipts and say, it ain't me, it's them. >> to that point, jason, about what the white house should be

doing here, it seems to be a little bit hands off right now biden appears to be hoping, guess, that the republican continue to dig their ow graves in this fight politically, that is a smart move, but the problem is, yo are also on a clock because yo do actually have to solve th debt ceiling you can't just sit this on out. you actually had to come u with a solution. what do you make that their -- i actually think that's marked if you look at who kevin mccarthy has aligned himself with, he's basically embrace the ultra maga wing of the republican party, the people that think that donald trump i the god and the leader and the guy who can do no wrong. so maybe joe biden should echo some of the words that donal trump said about the deb ceiling negotiations when he was in office. because trump objected to usin

the debt ceiling limit t extract political concessions. so, if the maga wing is no going to listen to what jo biden says when he say something similar, you shoul just say the exact same thin that donald trump said played that clip over and over again and say -- but i don't think anything i going to stop kevin mccarthy here from trying to get th attention. and i hope that it doesn't tan the economy. hopefully, this game of chicke will end sometime soon >> panel, stick around, we'v got a little bit more to tal to you about in the program. up next, the democratic an republican house leaders are set to visit israel in the coming days. a preview of their trips i after this it was very hard. kimberly came to clearchoice with a bunch of missing teeth, struggling with pain, with dental disease. clearchoice dental implants solved her dental issues. [ kimberly ] i feel so much better. i feel energized to go outside and play with my daughter. i can eat anything. like, i don't have to worry. clearchoice changed my life.

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of rising stars within the conference, includin representatives like jonah goose, josh gottheimer, debbie wasserman schultz. -- normalizing the anti-democrati authoritarian tactics of israel's current extremist government remains to be seen. writing in foreign policy last month, steven cook argued, i is not appropriate for the you know it's a tell israelis have to live or organize thei society, but let's no longer pretend that the two countries share democratic values. cook observes accurately tha israel has long observed had democratic deficits, wha netanyahu's government i making it impossible to ignore any. longer his regime has brazenly sought to weaken the checks an balances in israel's political system, to redefine israel identity along religious lines the majority of israelis did not share, to undermine th security of lgbtq citizens and to empower government minister with long notorious historie of making racist genocidal remarks.

joining me now is steven cook columnist at foreign policy an a senior fellow for middle eas and african studies at the council of foreign relations steven cook, it's great to see you -- tweeted out at the time it was thought-provoking and democrats, they have voiced vociferousl defended the democrati minority - here in the united states. but they seem to not have problem flying overseas an embracing a far-right hard-lin israeli politicians who ar basically trying to block thei own country checks and balance and crack down on politica rights in that country >> it is a rather extraordinar moment in which you have thi very significant congressional delegation going i suspect what they're tryin to do is thread the needle i the same way that the bide administration has, which is t deal with perhaps prim minister netanyahu but not the far right zealot ministers tha make up the majority of hi government

i am not sure that that will work any longer. as polls have demonstrated particularly among democrats i the united states. there is a significant shift i the way, in which, people view israel and its conflict with the palestinians in fact, a recent poll shows that more democrats are more sympathetic to the palestinian than the israelis. of course, netanyahu's efforts to undermine the checks an balances in the system and the ministers and his government who are seeking to annex territories at the expensive and notional palestinian state can help matters either. it will be rather awkward fo congressman hakeem jeffries an the rest of the delegation >> your advancing, i would say outside conventional thinkin about the way that this u.s. israeli relationship has functioned there's also another piece, an interesting piece and foreig affairs published earlier this month the argues the tempe status of occupation of th palestinian territories is now a permanent condition, in whic one state ruled by one group o people rose over another group

of people. they say it is time to give up on the idea of a two-state solution do you believe that it is well i know you're obviously talkin about reevaluating the u.s israeli relationship, you thin that there is time now t discuss a new paradigm shift when it comes to a solution to the israeli palestinia conflict >> i think that's right. i think the objective observer who has ever been out to the west bank and has seen how the israelis have built settlement and settlements isn't really the right word it's major town and cities, and investing th infrastructure, it will realiz that the israelis don't have any intention of giving up tha territory. and that the reality is, a they say in the foreign affair article, some colleagues o mine that i know quite well, that is a once the reality i think the difference is, i my view, is that there will no be a solution, there will no

be a one state solution wher israelis and palestinians live together in democratic piece i think you'll see some very really versions out the status quo that are marked by periods of violence between israel jews and palestinians who ar under occupation and even ever upset dozens of israel so, this is not a panacea. the one-state reality is a unfortunate outcome of israel' permanent occupation, which ha become an annexation >> what is it going to take, and you know better than i do, on this particular issue, fo congress and i suppose specifically, to your poin earlier that the base of the democratic party is shifting o this issue - for congressional democrats to start responding to this extremism of netanyahu's government to perhaps tighte or change the purse strings an the large yes offered to israe every year >> it's very interesting because there is a shift in th base of the democratic party yet, on votes for israel, fo example, replenishing the iron dome system, the israeli votes they're overwhelmingly in favo

of israel, essentially ignorin the security palestinians as well i think it is good to take som time it is not going to happe immediately, but i do thin that as the politics of israel become less favorable to israe -- it used to be very good fo politicians to be pro israel i the united states. i think, in time, these trends continue, then there will be a change but up until then, i think tha in washington, people still se israel as a popular issue, and that there is tremendous bipartisan support for i within washington even if th polls of the democrats, in particular, are shifting their views on israel. >> let me go back to your piec here for a moment. there may be some people i congress watching this certainly people at home watching this, make the case for us, why does the special relationship between the u.s and israel no longer makes mak

sense, as you write? >> i think there are two reasons for it one, it's based on a narrative in which israel and united states share values, share democratic values. and it's also based on the ide that is really is uniquely vulnerable israel still has securit issues but it's in a better strategic position than it's ever been before, and if the aid relationship is based on these two things, that they no longe make much sense, as he pointed out in your league in there is some very significant powe grab underway in israel in which the right-wing is seekin to weaken some of the basi tenets of israel's democrati system, for a lack of a better term there are problems there, bu nonetheless, it's more democratic then perhaps many o its neighbors. and on the security front, israel and - let's just lay it out -- formal relations with six arab states and six informa relations with another three o them that's almost half of the arab league

the aid relationship has bee based on the fact that israe needs it to help secure it security and, importantly, israel is also a democracy tha shares american values i think both of those are up for debate i don't think that they're quite true any longer, if they ever >> steven cook, it was a great piece, really appreciate you writing that, and thank you so much for coming on the show to discuss it >> thanks for having me ayman. >> ahead, george santos and rf junior - who is our worst of the week that's next. life... doesn't stop for diabetes. be ready for every moment, with glucerna. it's the number one doctor recommended brand that is scientifically designed to help manage your blood sugar. live every moment. glucerna. the virus that causes shingles is sleeping... in 99% of people over 50. it's lying dormant, waiting... and could reactivate.

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not just kennedys family and democrats who don't get it here is rfk junior himself >> i got so many skeletons i my closet, that if they can go i will be cam at the world >> wow, what an announcement who is the worst of the week the serial liar or the ant vaxxer with the skeletons in his closet let's bring back my panel to discuss it fernando, i will start wit you. who is your pick, santos o kennedy? >> oh, santa's by a countr mile can you imagine th shamelessness of this guy, who 80% of the voters in his own district are saying, dude, resigned now coming out and saying, instead of resigning, i will run for reelection it's unparalleled. i think unfortunately in the rfk situation, that someone is being exploited. he's obviously doing it for al the wrong reasons. there's no question that joe senators is the worst defender of the week. you can say that he's the wors defender of the month. heck, let's make him the worst

offender of the year, george santos >> he's definitely in th running, when we come back i december for the final segment he's on pace daniel, who you got? >> i don't know which george say george santos. with $25,000 and the bank, 800 of which he already has to pay back to his donors, he has n money. i am really not sure where h is running, but yeah, him by a country mile >> jason, you got the final on at this restaurant, who are yo going with, i had to flee goin with shorts -- >> and difficult winter santos as a new yorker, it makes me sick that he's running for reelection but as a comedian, i am very excited that he is running for reelection i look forward to attendin some of his campaign event right here in new york, but thought that we should look at him like a politician. we should look at him like a grandparent -- he will just milk this for a

much as he can he's like, i got a job here, i get a paycheck >> i was going to say, the republicans demonstrated tha there is always a willingnes to give money to these people, no matter how extreme, how bizarre, how weird they are, how much antisemitic they are. look at steve benen. he spent months encouraging rf jr. to run against biden as a, quote, chaos agent tucker carlson, alex jones there are also pursuing hi campaign is there anything here, jason, that should be taken seriously by the democrats >> a short answer would be, no rfk does not have a lot of support. i think he's the only person with a last name kennedy tha are actually supporting him. i think his chances, i think jfk junior as a better chanc of winning the presidency -- >> he's on the trump ticket in 2024 as the vice president >> i heard that he is currentl vice president for a couple of

people on the road that is more breaking news for you here >> we're always breaking new on the show. speaking of santos here, for nantes, you pledge several times to donate his entirecongrn asked about the details of his donation, he responded, quote, i owe you no explanation t what i do with my salary and to jason's point about the fact that he is going to b running again, and the point i was trying to make earlier that there are people who will donate to his campaign, he won't raise money off of som people out there, and th growth continues >> it really does. i don't think there is any point in listening to what george santos says, paying any attention, trying to read th tea leaves in the statements you can assume the default posture is, it's a live and grift. the challenge here, a man, george santos is not an outlie in the republican party. he's not a one-off, only worst-case an area

there are hundreds of george santos is the day in the republican party he just represents the mos extreme of the extreme in party where the extremists hav taken over am i surprised by the grif continuing no, it is a party and a call where grift is a corporate supple >> omolara what you tell agreement was on the outs of the republican party people do not want to be associated with her, she stripped of her committe assignments, look at her now she is the kingmaker, if you will, other republican far-right, with kevin mccarthy fernand amandi, danielle moodie, jason selvig, it's always pleasure to have the interview on i think this is the first case we've had a unanimous consen on who the worst of th weakness we're making a little show history tonight, guys. thank you so much. thank you for making time fo us be sure to come back tomorro night at 9 pm eastern on msnbc congressman pat ryan, the ma who first won a specia election campaign on reproductive freedom, just

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