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questions to answer so let's get started. swift evacuation 100 people are evacuating from the u.s. embassy and the fierce fighting in sudan the direct orders from president biden straight ahead plus, biden's bid. president reportedly days away from announcing another run fo the legal office what we know about his reelection campaign and ho younger voters can help push him across that finish line. trump on trial former president donald trump' civil rape trial said to start tuesday in new york. as the election interference investigations close in on trump's inner circle we're breaking it down ahead later, doubting thomas ethics concerns continue t swirl around clarence thomas's undisclosed lavish trips on gop billionaire megadonor' time and that shady real estate deal i want to know chief justice john roberts actually confront the controversy in an upcoming senate hearing all of that and more is coming up

a good sunday morning to you all. i am katie phang we begin today share wit breaking news. escalating fighting in sudan's capital. u.s. forces have safel evacuated 100 -- and their dependents under u.s security from the embassy. the state department says of ration's at the embassy ar temporarily suspended. thousands of americans wer caught in the middle of tw warring factions fighting fo control of the city's capita for the past two weeks hundreds of innocent civilians have died and the stat department confirms one u.s. citizen or was killed in tha conflict nbc's courtney kube has th latest >> about 100 u.s. military special operations force undertook a daring mission saturday to rescue u.s government personnel who hav been caught in the middle of

intense fighting in sudan' capital khartoum the mets - mission began at 9 am saturday in djibouti, u.s. troops flyin 800 miles to sudan what the airport still close in the city -- too dangerous to drive, th u.s. military had two and thre helicopters at the u.s. embass and khartoum they were on the ground fo about an hour. managing to load about 8 people including several unite nations diplomats, one child and a number of pets befor flying them to ethiopia to board planes and fly on to djibouti he was somebody in khartoum is now shuttered. u.s. officials say they hope that's only temporary. officials also said that there were no injuries among those who were evacuated and that many of them have already less djibouti. today is the third and one supposed to be the final day o a cease-fire that was supposed to mark th muslim holiday eid al-fitr it's been marked by violence and even - widespread reports of gunfire,

artillery and even mor airstrikes when american was killed in th crossfire earlier this week bu it's clear that bide administration does not plan t evacuate the other roughly 16,000 americans who are still in sudan at this time. saying it's just too dangerous the state department als warning americans there not to get into private convoys to tr to get to any of these potential evacuation point saying they simply canno guarantee anyone's safety if they are to do that. back to you. >> nbc's courtney kube, than you. this morning's other big story the 2024 presidential field is growing into sharper focus we are waiting for new nbc polling that gives a close look ahead at 2024 that poll will be released i the next hour. while florida governor ron desantis ways running agains former president donald trum who carries a 48% lead ove desantis, according to the wal street journal, democrats ma soon have their own big stak

in this race sources telling nbc news president biden is expecte makers reelection bid official this week. we may hear his campaign announcement as early as thi tuesday which remark exactly four years after he announce his 2020 run joining me with more fro washington's nbc news whit house correspondent alli raffa. ali, good morning, always so good to see you. we're gonna turn to that rac in 2024. tell us, what do we know about the presidents expecte reelection announcement this week and how his campaign is frankly already shaping up >> katie, good morning, good t be with you. after months and months of speculation around when we could expect this announcement as you mentioned, we'r expecting it to happen as soon as tuesday in the form of a pretty low-ke video announcement similar to what we saw the presidents team launched i 2019 what would also be a prett appropriate and convenient timing piece of this is wher we expect the president to b on tuesday we know he's a very passionate supporter of unions.

he's been one throughout his political career we expect him to speak to trade union conference in d.c. on tuesday i really can't think of a more welcoming and supportive o people to be around the da that the president is set to announce this. as far as what happens after tuesday, if this does happen o tuesday, we really don't expec much to change significantly a far as what we see publicl from the president as an incumbent, we know he has that advantage. sort of playing two role simultaneously being president and also candidate at the same time we expect him to continue usin the power of his platform. continuing to do these ros garden speeches that he's been doing. two of them just in the last week it's stead of going out on the campaign trail, we'll see hi continue to do a stops and swing states on this invest in america tour touting what this white hous sees as their legislativ accomplishments. things like the chips and sign bill the bipartisan infrastructur law.

their handling of the covid-19 pandemic all things are there going t be saying that will continue into 2024. al east for the time being for the next few months, we don' expect much to change at least publicly by the presidents team, katie. >> we'll be looking to tuesday and our thanks to you, allie raffa, for joining us this morning. the u.s. debt ceiling deadline inches closer wallet and tense battle for a bipartisa agreement is spiraling a republicans try to gai control. earlier this week, house speaker kevin mccarthy propose a plan to increase the deb ceiling to 1.5 trillion dollar over the next year his bill also aims to cut item on president biden's agenda. like rescinding unspent covi relief funds canceling biden's student debt forgiveness plan canceling enhance irs fundin for medicaid and other federal aid programs although mccarthy's legislatio has been praised by right-wing members of the caucus, it' also getting skepticism from centrist republicans

meanwhile, democrats wan mccarthy's plan to be scrubbed altogether >> this mega wish list has n chance of moving forward in th senate it doesn't move us any close than we were yesterday t avoiding default speaker mccarthy's wish list i an extreme step in the wrong direction. it heads us in the direction o default. time is running out. >> joining me now for more i nbc's julie tsirkin on capitol hill julie, good morning. always so good to see you as well what's the latest on the possibility of a bipartisa agreement and frankly what happens if the u.s. defaults >> you heard from majority leader schumer there saying we're no closer to bipartisan deal. what speaker mccarth accomplishment putting thi plan forward isn't - getting republicans to the table because remember, th president dropped his budget months ago he's been waiting fo republicans to show thei planned for a debt limit increase potential spending cuts.

i will say, katie, mccarthy' plan doesn't specify spendin cuts where he would cut becaus republicans haven't been abl to really coalesce around that taking us back to 2022 levels. which you heard schumer sa there would cause a lot of the presidents priorities. including things they were abl to pass an inflation rate -- that has a lot to do with gree energy, of course, als workplace credits. and all of these initiatives o the president is frankly running on this is no chance of making it onto the floor we are still not any closer to a solution for the debt ceilin increase which by the way, w will default on sometime ove the summer the treasury secretary has bee in emergency measures sinc sometime in january. this is really an openin market hopefully, mccarthy hopes of this will get the president to the negotiating table again. the white house said they're not willing to negotiate ove this they want a clean debt ceiling increase and then potentiall talk about spending cuts in th future >> julie, what are the chances mccarthy actually manages to get enough gop votes to ge

this even moving forward >> he hopes to have a vote o this sometime next week. the house is out for a reces for a week following that. it's not really clear how he's going to get there he needs 218 he has a very slim majority. i talk to members moderate members of the hard righ freedom caucus they're all a little squishy o this plan for differen reasons. for example, congresswoman nancy mace, she's a moderate she told me just on thursday she's leaning know on this pla for reasons she outlined tha have to do with green energy she thinks this plan could potentially take us in the wrong direction there. on the flip side, you have fiscal conservatives who say this doesn't balance the budge enough in this plan, mccarthy plans t cut about four point trillio dollars in spending over the next decade. to have a new spending at 1% each year. they say they're not sure this takes that far enough. remember, he can only lose a couple of votes. it's not clear if this eve

passes the house it's not gonna go anywhere i the senate again, this is an openin marker to avoid a default, which will send markets spiraling, even the threat of default months i advance should send shockwaves across the global markets an can threaten stop ford folio as well. >> that's a lot. thank you julie tsirkin for th latest i appreciated. still to come this morning o the katie phang show trump on trial which is two days until the -- still not clear whether th former president will even sho up legal consequences he coul face if he's a no-show right after the break. keep it right here frustrated by skin tags? dr. scholl's has the breakthrough you've been waiting for. the first fda-cleared at-home skin tag remover clinically proven to remove skin tags

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will be on trial for defamatio and battery in new york. author in advice columnists -- alleges that twice impeached now indicted former presiden raped her in a manhattan department store back in the 90s and then defamed her bik using her of making it all up. trump has to nind all of the accusations. but after a failed attempts by his legal team to postpone thi rio, it's still unclear if h will even appear in court. one of trump's lawyers, jo tech and pena, and a court filing telling the judge tha

forums will make the decisio on whether to attend, get this while the trial is in progress joining me now is barbar mcquade msnbc legal analys former attorney in - also the co-host of the hashta sisters -- also are the smartest people i know so i wanted you to be her as we look ahead to tuesday' trial. let's quickly, barr, but let's walk through jury selection. i think you and i both know as former trial lawyer, as you ca when it was a trial based on who you pick to sit in tha jury box do you think it's gonna be har to get a jury in e. jean carroll's trial. >> i agree with you that thi is a critical point of a trial like this. where the stakes are so high there's a lot of publicity around both of these individuals and the case itself i'm sure you've had this experience you can always find enough people to sit on a jury in a city of 10 million people, the will find them

it may take some effort. that may put some people in th box and ask them questions people will have stron opinions about the case for th parties. the question of course does no have you ever heard of eithe these people or of this case but can you set aside anything you heard outside of the courtroom and decide the cas solely based on what you hea in side at the court room. i'm confident they wil ultimately find 12 people wh can do that. >> barb, as i mentioned, trump's lawyers trying it in order from the court excusin trump from appearing even trum saying i'm gonna save manhatta nights from bad traffic. but the judge saying not happening on my watch. what are some pros and cons in your opinion about trump not appearing for this civil trial >> if i were a lawyer fo donald trump, god forbid, would advise him to be there i think it's a bad look for jury who is wondering what - where is he? is there something mor important than being here? it is certainly at his peril t not show up.

i suppose politically, he ca say this isn't worth my time this is frivolous, this is a insignificant matter and i'm focused on more importan things as a campaign for the presidency i suppose that's part of it. he asked for this instructio that the jury be told that h is doing the set of th goodness of it's hard for th good people of new york at the courthouse personnel i don't know what the last tim donald trump did a paper for somebody else but it's laughable that he would be doing that now and the judge wisely said i' not giving that instruction. it's your choice be there are not i'm a target jury that you'v done some favor by not being here >> another potential pitfall for trump showing up for thi trial is the fact that judge kaplan has ruled that th testimony of two other women who have alleged that trum sexually assaulted them mayb entered into evidence at thi upcoming trial the judges also allowing aging carroll to use that infamous october 2016 access hollywoo tape as evidence how much do you think this i factoring into a decision by trump to actually show up an

do you think this actually affects the outcome ultimately of this case >> it may be that it's ver awkward for trump to have to sit there and listen to that for his accusers to look him i the eye and say these things t his face i'm sure it's humiliating to sit there and hear people sa those things it's always awkward if h doesn't want to testify, which i would highly recommend he no do i think sometimes the jury looks to the person and wonder how are you reacting to this are you squirming? are you demonstrating physical reactions from which we should infer guilt? i think this testimony i important. ordinarily, as you know, under rule of evidence 404(b), ordinarily prior acts of the same crime are not admissibl just to show a person' propensity to engage in this bad conduct. we look at this conduct alone. it can be admissible if it shows other things like person's mo. if the way the person discusse

this kind of issue in the past is similar to this one if they engage in behavior wit the same way in the past it lends credibility to th claim of the person who is bringing the lawsuit under that analysis, judge caplan has ruled that this additional testimony and evidence may come into play. i think it will be persuasiv to a jury. >> one last question quickly, let's talk about on other trump's cases. he's got a lot but just on other. this week, trump advisor boris if he met with the special counsel's office for the secon time explain to the viewers wha doesn't mean for boris to meet with the special counsel investigators versus actuall testifying before a grand jury >> ordinarily, before you pu someone in a grand jury, you want to explore what it is the know and they may be thinking about giving him some sort o immunity but oftentimes it's useful t explore that they are probably assessin what he knows. he may have said i want to com in and share with you what i

know before we decide whethe i'm going to witness or defend in this case it's just -- it suggests that he is exploring cooperation. if so, he is somebody who is closely involved in both the mar-a-lago case and in the january six case he is potentially a very powerful witness for the government against donal trump. >> lots and lots of inside information. barbara mcquade, my friend thank you as always for gettin up and getting us going. i appreciate you >> thank you, katie. >> coming up, watching the watchers after this break, the latest twist in the clarence thomas and ginni thomas ethic scandal. the disappointing bu predictable radio silence from justice thomas's bossed, chief justice john roberts don't go anywhere. hey, man. you could save hundreds for safe driving with liberty mutual. they customize your car insurance. so you only pay for what you need! whoo!

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justice roberts is to expect -- accept the responsibility of the court as chest - he has to understand tha clarence thomas's conduct is absolutely unacceptable from a ethical basis. to restore the integrity and reputation of the court, the have to do something an investigation followed by a change in the approach o ethics >> things are heating up for the supreme court's longes serving justice has democrat called for clarence thomas t be held accountable for hi alleged ethical lapses according to reports fro propublica, thomas has bee shared with several hundreds o thousands of dollars worth o gifts from right win billionaire harlan crow in the form of private jet and jada travel, or real estate sale an other perks. he never disclosed any of it additionally, thomas's wif ginni, collected a salary of nearly $120,000 surreptitiously, funded by crow and justice thomas's disclosur forms for 20 years said she ha

no employment income meanwhile, chief justice roberts has been absolutel silent who is watching the watchers joining me now is someone wh is watching the washers, walte shaub -- and former director of the u.s office of government ethics. walt, you had a busy tim during the trump administratio when it came to ethics still going, it looks like what do you think about chie justice roberts do you think he should testif before the senate judiciar committee about judicial ethics? what would you like to see don if he absolutely refuses to do so >> i think it would be positively disgraceful if he refuses to speak - testify in front of congress it would be a real statement that the supreme court justice feel themselves as ruler instead of a public servants they owe us a response they owe us transparency

roberts himself has been disdainful of government ethics, writing in a 2011 year and a report basically hands-off the court should be able t regulate its own affairs obviously, they cannot regulat their affairs. i don't know that there is muc congress if he refuses to show up because of course, to enforce subpoena you, had to go to court, that would end up in th supreme court. unfortunately, that's a no win situation. i think justice -- chief justice roberts owes us response a shame on him if he doesn't it'll only further - trust in the court >> retired justice stephen breyer in response t questioning to share his views on clarence thomas said that h thinks clarence is a quote man of integrity he then went further to sa that the problem with the code of ethics for scotus is that justices cannot be replaced if they disqualify themselves lik a lower court judge might do walt, is that really the

biggest impediment to ethica oversight on a scotus? >> shame on him. of course, that's a word i jus use but it's worth using ove and over again with thes justices there is this culture of exceptionalism on the cour that we are somehow above th law. the reality is that he may hav some concerns about recusal an that may owe to our curren structure of the supreme court whether he is -- no one who could fill in first of all, we lived wit only eight justices for a long time now after mitch mcconnel refused to confirm merrick garland or even hold a hearing on him the court didn't issue any traumatic or radical decisions compared to what they're doing with a supermajority i think more importantly, code of ethics would include things like gift rules. so that there would be a question about whether these kind of lavish gifts could b accepted if you believe republic -- that a rental of the plane would've been $500,000 for one

trip or rental of the plane an the yacht on one trip. we're talking gifts that hav actually potentially amounte to millions of dollars worth o gifts. all at the department of justice routinely prosecutes federal employees. 26,000 federal employees who file public financia disclosures. and almost a half million more who filed confidential disclosures. so the idea that all of thes lower level employees should b subject to either criminal penalties or civil monetar penalties. but the justices shouldn't be. that goes back to that culture of exceptionalism. they think there are above the law. two democratic congressman for now only two but i think numbers growing. they're requesting - justice thomas like you ar talking about right now to the u.s. attorney general fo potential violations of th ethics and government act. what would that entail you talked about potential criminal exposure but. i think more realistically would be looking at civi

monetary penalties >> yes, in fact, the judicia conference should do that. the supreme court claims the judicial conference has no authority over it. chief justice roberts made tha point quite vigorously in th 2011 year and a report -- with this judicial conference, the attorney general can act o his own. there are mechanisms for criminal prosecutions, civil monetary penalties colleague of mine at the project of government oversigh -- filed a complaint last wee with the civil division asking them to pursue civil monetar penalties against him. we're talking $71,000 potentia fine per omission. if they can prove ten omissions, yves got a $700,000 in fines that's nothing to sneeze at. the burden of proof is muc lower in civil cases they'll have to prove it's mor likely than not that he di this willingly and knowingly

i think there is ample evidenc suggesting to prove that case. >> i'll tell our viewers there's also courtney if i'm wrong, there's a five-year statute of limitations on civil monetary penalty but i don't know, if plants thomas and with 700, 000, maybe he'll borrow the money from harland. walter shaub, thank you fo watching the watchers. i appreciate you as always thanks for being with us today thank you. coming up, a lasting legacy. the course calling for the united states oldest sitting u.s. senator diane feinstein t step down. they're getting louder after the break, my next guest explains why she thinks it's actually in the best interes of the country for her to step down don't go anywhere.

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to advance a seven judicia nominees that the committe despite a major absence on the panel. california senator diane feinstein, the oldest sittin u.s. senator and member of congress has been m.i.a. i washington since the presidents'day recent february when she was diagnosed wit shingles

a non life-threatening but incredibly painful infection and a condition for which sh has since been hospitalized. the 89-year-old senators absence could spell trouble fo key democratic agenda items in the judiciary committee. and on the senate floor if she doesn't return to washington soon meanwhile, the calls for her resignation or intensifying as she has missed more than three quarters of all votes for 2023 -- this makes for the most excime of all of congress in a new vanity fair piece, ou next guest writes we should no hold a united states senator t a lower standard than that t which we hold all othe americans. we should expect that a senato wouldat minimum performing the basic duties of their job like casting votes rather tha clench power at the public's expense. trinity now is special correspondent for vanity fai and the host of the fast politics podcast, molly jong fast molly, so good to see you as always thanks for being here. i think this is an important conversation and i wanted to have it with you there is some good news.

the judiciary committee manage to advance a handful of biden' nominees with bipartisan support. this is a real problem republicans have blocked attempts to temporarily replac senator feinstein on the committee. the margin for democrats in th senate as we know is already really slim. how harmful could find signs prolonged absence end up being for democrats? >> it'll stop the judicial nomination process eventuall they won't have the votes to get these judges in. i think it's also a larger issue. reporting there was -- talked about how people and he staff don't really think she's gonna be able to come back this is there's really no plan to bring her back. fundamentally, this is a job you are a public servant you are there to serve the public this idea that somehow because she is a woman or because she' older that she should be immun from that is really ridiculous

she's 89 years old it's not that she is too old for this job it's that she is not in this job. not doing. it has no plans to return. america is in the middle of judicial - judicial emergency >> rebecca tracers profile o dianne feinstein for the cut last year, she noted questions surrounding feinstein' cognitive health she described the center in th following way. nothing she says suggested terry should be on would b normal for a person her age bu netted demonstrate any engagement with the variou crises facing the nation every question i asked about the radicalization of the gop, the end of roe, the failures o congress was met with a simila sonny imperviousness some of these calls fo feinstein's resignation really about continued signs of wanin mental acuity. >> i'm not capable of making that medical diagnosis i will say that in 2020, there

is a piece from -- in the new yorker which talk about how she had some trouble at a committee hearing look, this is the issue. if you cannot show up for th job than you should not have it and this is really a case of that i think fundamentally, it's very nice that a lot of thes senators feel that they are so important. but ultimately, we just need the votes. i think fundamentally, we need to make sure that our senators and congressmen and governor are public servants who serv the public and it's where they should trade stocks and that's where they shouldn't be making money. they should be serving the public >> this reminds me a little bi molly of a similar situation analogous to justice ruth bade ginsburg another trail blazing feminist figure who was actively workin in her late 80s.

but who some would say and these are critics inadvertentl undermined her own legacy base in a position to appoint tha had a serious politica consequences mainly in giving than presiden donald trump a third huber conservative supreme court justice pick in amy cone barrett. do you see any similaritie tracking between these situations >> you know, ruth bade ginsburg was a legend. she did some incredible stuff. the fact that there is no aros should add to the urgency that these members of the senat should feel. we have a seriously activist republican judiciary now with -- just this week, we had a district court judge who wante to overturn an fda approval fo a job because he did not lik what it did. if this isn't a judicial emergency, i don't know what is ultimately, i think it i

really necessary if you're not gonna come back to the job that he resign i don't think this is rocket science, i don't think this is that controversial you can do the job, you should resign you should - and this is one of the mos important jobs in america -- >> last question, molly, you'v got people like representative nancy pelosi she's defending senato feinstein's choice to stay and office pelosi's making it seem like it's an ageism and a sexis issue. what do you make about the fac that this debate at least in the eyes of even som congressional democrats ha become an issue about sexism o feminism even? >> i don't think it's thos things i think that a lot of elective know that a lot of older peopl vote and they don't want t alienate them. look, this is not about age. this is really about are you i the office i think you can look a anything in any way. but the reality is that shus -- there urban senators who hav

stayed too long on the right and the left female and male. this is not an issue of stayin too long this is an issue of not bein in the office to take the vote you must take. i understand why nancy pelos is defending her i understand why other peopl are running for reelection are defending her. you don't want to alienate voters if the job - it looks badly on democrats. that there are allowing someon to do this to the judiciary. >> molly jong fast, appreciate your insight, i appreciate you tackling this conversation it's creating a lot of until - i think it's an honest conversation that needed to be had so thanks for being here this morning i appreciate it. >> up next, get out the vote when it comes to courting youn voters, republicans have a hug problem. after the break, i'll talk wit one organizer about just how badly the gop is failing wit

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for either political party could hinge on a key get often overlooked group, young voters

during the 2022 midterms, youn people turned out in recor numbers. research poll sows gen z overwhelmingly supported democrats in those elections more recently, young peopl showed up in high numbers of college campuses to vote in th wisconsin supreme court race an election that gave liberals control of the court for the first time in 15 years it's clear, gop has a proble here and so far, their onl solution seems to be suppressing the vote of youn people listen to this audio obtaine by progressive activist lauren winter of republican legal strategist klete of mitchell clear to mitchell is talking t a room full of gop donors. >> they basically put th polling place next to th student dorms so they just hav to roll out a bed, vote, and g back to bed. and we need to build a stron election integrity task forces in those counties. wisconsin is a big problem because of the first day because of the polling locations on college campuses. there are 501(c) (3) s

their goal for some importan race was to turn out 240,000 college students in that supreme court race and we don't have anything lik that and we defer guard how to do that and how to combat that. >> nbc has not independently verified that audio. a joining me now is victor shi strategy for voters of tomorro and host of on the move with victor shi i know it's early where you are, i'm especially grateful that you got up to join me this morning. in response to that audio that we just played, you tweete that gen z is fired up and rejecting what this republican party stands for what do you have to say to those in the republican part who are intentionally trying t make it harder for young peopl to vote by curbing voter acces on college campuses an same-day voter registration? trying to get rid of that in the not accepting student i.d.s? >> first of all, katie, so goo to see you my response to that is i think what you're seeing right now i a naturalist ponds to generation that is more diverse,

that is younger, the respons that is in to meet us where we are. the responses and to engag with young people on the issues the response by this republica party is just like you said, and just like we heard it's to limit young voters it's to suppress our voices. to silence eyes like they di in tennessee that's a response to our tur out like he said in 2018, in 2020 2022, the latest wisconsin supreme court election but i there's one thing that's clear about generation z in youn people that are more politically active than ever before, it's that we aren' afraid to make our voice heard. in 2024, the majority of u will be eligible to vote for the first time what you're seeing right now from this republican party's are trying to take away ou rights, or try to make i harder to vote i think it's going to have a real backlash in 2024. especially with young voters who are kind of tired and sick of this republican party who just want our lives to b improved and to change my message to them and all those republicans were tryin so hard to limit us from votin on college campuses and from

voting is i think they shoul pay attention and be sure that they pay attention and watch out or gen z 2024. >> victor, there is currently major legal battle right now over access to a key abortio medication the supreme court just kicke back to that litigation to the fifth circuit court of appeals key research poll shows 71% of young women support assets t this truck mifepristone. what other issues are youn people talking about a victo that's going to drive them t the polls? >> what we saw from 2022 i like you said abortion was the number one issue for turnout among young people and it make total sense because this i generation for the first tim in 50 years has not grown up with the access to safe and -- safe abortion. i think this 2024 election some of those important issues going forward our studen forgiveness. i think for young people acros the country, accessing affordable quality education i

becoming harder than eve before that's something that to thi administration credit has been some of that they've engaged on particularly well. i think the other issue that's gonna be particularly importan is gun violence. no matter where you come from, this is a generation has grown up with nash shooter drills. we are so tired and fed up wit having to go through this. almost on a weekly basis we can't go anywhere and fee safe for young people, i think gu reform is gonna be a key issue you have a host of other issue like climate change. accessing a livable wage all of these issues are really immediate for young voters i think the top three or can b reproductive rights, student loan forgiveness and gun reform >> victoria, and people they show up when it matters. we saw protests in nashville republicans also to democratic state reps after the deadl commit shooting a few week ago. just this week, students i florida staging a walkout over governorates antis's extreme draconian policies wanted to say one that - between 2018 and 2022, registration among 18 to 1

year old voters jumped 66% i the state of idaho in the 2022 midterms, about on and eight voters overall wer under the age of 30. i'm older than you, victor, have to ask, what does it take for people like me and m generation what? can we do to help to make sure that you've voter turnou occurs in 2024 >> i think the most importan thing that anyone can do right now as we head into 2020 for u to really engage with youn people have thos conversations. one of the things that we sa work particularly well in 2022 was -- into the visual conversation with young people and. that's what mobilized youn voters to pay attention. that's what got us engage. that's what got us to read should vote in ultimately turn out. i think for the democratic party, whether you are at home wondering what you can do. the most important thing i think is to have those conversations. reminding voters where they ca go to vote remind them where thei location is. those reminders help i think it shows young peopl just education and the tools

needed to be active civi participants in our democracy. beyond that, i think it' getting the resources they nee to - this is a generation that is more active on social medi than any other generation. i think if people can poin them in the right direction, give them the facts of the resources, that goes a long wa with our generation. >> victor shi, gen z voters, all young voters, you got th republicans running scared i love it. thank you so much for joinin us this morning. i appreciate you one important programming note tonight, msnbc films for us on the second episode of luck was almost does america. a new six-part series from nbc news studios john leguizamo takes in miami' -- vibrant no culture ove dominoes, and more what should all new episode of leguizamo does america tonight at 10 pm eastern on msnbc at streaming on peacock you can also catch a quick first look at tonight's episod by scanning your phone o whatever you've got on that q code that's on your screen

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