good evening welcome t politicsnation tonight's lead, 2024 here we go right now, what appears to be growing field of 202 presidential candidates may, i

reality, already be a rematc between very familiar names. as a brand-new polling from nb news shows and suggests, despite being the current fron runners for their partie nominations, americans are not excited about the prospect of joe biden donald trump rematch next year. the good moves for trump i that nearly 70% of gop primary voters are rallying around him right now. in part because he is th target of multiple legal investigations that many republicans view as politicall motivated. for six in ten americans including a third of republicans, enough is enough. and they do not want to se trump in the white house again as for biden, seven in ten americans have the opinion the

democrats do not want to see the president run again. what do voters want to see just over a year out fro election day and what does the presiden need to show them to close the enthusiasm gap i will ask msnbc host, joe scarborough for his take o this polling numbers and his recent trip to interview president biden an others that is a special report premiering tomorrow night on msnbc. also tonight, i will talk with the chicago mayor elect, brendan johnson. just a few weeks from runnin in - what does his win mean for rac relations in chicago after a very polarizing, narro race first, joining me now is congressman john garamendi he is a democrat of california congressman, i want to ask you

about the nbc poll i mentioned at the top of the hour first, i must mentioned that last night we had the mayor of -- right here on this show. and i know that is in your district the mayor was on just a fe days after a lawsuit was filed against several members of the police force, alleging civil rights violations and othe misconduct after an investigation reveale explicitly racist, homophobic, and violent text messages. at least 45 officers wer involved in, those text chains 16 of them in leadership positions. the mayor has been a target in the past, receiving deat threats. here is what he told us last night. >> i've been attacke physically, after i gave a speech at a chamber of commerc election

and the police department di not take it seriously. they say it was my word agains -- >> i do not know, and that might be a reality but here in the city of antioch, it was an absolute reality anywhere else individual would have been arrested, and here i am fielding for myself >> the congressman, i have called on merrick garland at the department of justice to investigate these changes. what do you make of what i going on in the city >> this cannot be ignored. it's an incredibly dangerous and difficult situation. not only for african americans but really for the community

we have my colleague, who also represents antioch both of us have called upon th department of justice to initiate an investigation, and if necessary, take whateve action is warranted to straighten out this police department other cities around the nation that had similar racis departments, and trouble departments have been put unde the authority of the departmen of justice the law allows that. if that's what comes of th investigation, then so be it but this is absolutely unacceptable the mayor is a good person he's, smart he's intelligent he is a very good vision for the city and he needs the opportunity t carry that out and the city needs, and in fac california needs a polic department that does not have racial elements in it. >> and i can tell you that w in the civil rights communit are going to stay on it. given your truck, record i kno you will too

now back to that nbc poll mentioned at the top despite being under multiple state, federal, and municipa investigations, nearly 70% o republican primary voters sa that donald trump is the targe of politically motivated probe designed to take him out of th presidential race. and mind you, that is after hi recent arrest and arraignmen here in new york in the hush money probe. still, you have larg majorities of americans an enthused by the prospect of rematch next year. 70% of adults, 51% of democrat do not want biden to run again which he is expected t announce as early as tuesday according to three sources fro his announcement plans at 60% of americans, the agree. a third of republicans think

that trump should run in 2024. he had still, for most gop primary voters, the former guy is still their guy how do you interpret that ahea of what is expected to be th week that joe biden officially declares his reelection bid? first of all, we have known fo almost seven years that donald trump controls the republica party. the biden republicans simply want donald trump. they like him, and they're going to stay there. no matter what he is, no matte what crimes he has committed no matter what comes of thes investigations they are going to stay with th mega team that is in place on the other hand, we have joe biden. and joe biden has done a spectacular job as president as we go into this next year as we get ready for th primaries in the general elections. the american public will understand what an incredibl we successful president jo

biden has been you think about the response t the pandemic, they got it unde control. got the public health programs going. support of the businesses, supported families reduced childhood povert across this nation, and now we are set with the infrastructure, as well as the job program and the inflation program goin after climate change all of that is in place, and all of it is a direct result o joe biden and, frankly, th democratic congress under nanc pelosi's leadership. people will come to understand that reverend al, people are always looking for the new model. we're always looking for the new bright, shiny thing. why do we change tires every three years? why do we get a new car in the old one is perfectly good? because we like something new. but at the end of the day, i will be somebody that is reall solid, that has led this nathan and when we look a international relationships, where are we with ukraine?

where are we with puttin together the alliances acros europe and asia? that is all biden. >> and if you're going to get new car, you're going to mak sure that it can drive and the general elections show that they exceeded expectations but the nbc news poll also shows nearly six in te americans think abortion should be legal. 38% say it should always be, o 20%, most of the time. contrasting with that, a combined 38% of a adults think abortion should be illegal 32%, allowing for -- in the context of this upcomin election year, in whic abortion is expected to be a huge issue post roe, how shoul democrats proceed, congressman

>> the democrats should procee just as we did in the 2022 election that is to support abortio rights, women's rights t choose, to control their own destiny, their own body. and not get government involve in those decisions beyond with the roe situatio that was laid out for more tha 50 years so it is a big issue, it is very personal issue for ever woman, young and old going forward. it will be a significant issue in the upcoming elections, a it was in the interim election that we have seen, and i special elections around thi nation the democrats should keep this one on the front burner. because this is a question o the rights of every individual and particularly, rights for women to choose their ow destiny. the republicans are going to b --

i think it is a losing issue for them if we couple this issue, the abortion issue with economic issues and the opportunities o inflation reduction, the green technologies and the infrastructure, and th educational components that go with that. all of those opportunities are there for americans, and i can ensure you that democrats ar going to be pushing all of these issues the abortion, as well as the economic issues and the good work that has been done in the previous two years >> all right thank you for joining us thi evening, california congressma john garamendi turning now to chicago, th windy city's new mayor i facing his first major challenge. he hasn't even taken offic yet. security is tight this weekend around millennium park and other parts of downtown, wit

police installing a barricades at limited points of entry after large groups of youn adults swarmed the area last weekend, resulting in at least three shootings and 16 arrests the incidents highlight th challenges facing incoming mayor, brandon johnson, who wa elected earlier this month including how to combat crime, and repair strained relation between the city and the polic department i am glad to welcome back to the show, brandon johnson. he joins us now. first of all, thank you fo joining us and i want to start with talking about these incident that some are calling teen takeover of downtown he spoke about this this week, saying young people shouldn' be demonized many of your critics took issu with this. but i have seen less coverag

of your plans to try and address this violence. such as creating job opportunities. i want you to elaborate on that, because i know you've been dealing with this crime issue while. i took an apartment in you neighborhood, the west side, about five years ago so i know your consistency o this issue elaborate more on your thoughts, on how we deal with this and how you are going to deal with this as you take charge of the city >> thank, you reverend al, for having me again. i am grateful that the peopl of chicago have embraced the values i ran on. the excitement we ar experiencing all over the city of chicago, and around the state of illinois has been a remarkable testament to th hopes and dreams that th people of chicago have t create a better, stronger,

safer city as you've indicated, i live in the west side of chicago my wife and i are raising or three children there we are certainly not immune to the type of violence exists in the city of chicago. raising a family on the west side, in particular, a beautiful neighborhood but arguably, it would be on of the first nurse wake up every single day and one o those tough neighborhoods. but as you indicated, there ar young people all over the city of chicago that have experienced a great deal o trauma that manifests in behavior tha is delinquent, and in some cases violent. as i said the other night, i d not condone the behavior tha was exhibited, or any of the behavior that leads toward violence and the feeling in the experience of these chicagoans who are experiencing this type

of challenge what i've also said, repeatedly, is that it's one thing t critique young people, reveren al it's another thing when yo demonize them. and there is a difference. as i said before, because i am serious about making sure that our communities are safe we have to do what's saf american cities do that is invest in people i've spoken repeatedly about youth employment, not just for some positions but year-roun positions. there's a direct correlation between youth employment and violence reduction we also have to invest i recreation, and activities tha have to be made availabl within the neighborhoods of th city of chicago. we have beautiful neighborhood have been disinvested in ove the course of a generation that is the task that we all have together, to make sur that we are bringing structure and calmness to the city o chicago. while also addressing the root

causes of the violence they are much committed to making sure we maintain that balance. >> so it's a balance you use the term balance we're talking about -- you are not excusing what ha to be dealt with immediately but you're saying, we will kee coming back to this again. now, on that point, on thursday, the chicago police soup preten that - he announced he will retir next month you did not receive the suppor of the chicago fraternal order of police. and in the past, you hav called them the most rabid racist body of crimina lawlessness in the land. you also said that you inten to promote more detectives within the department, and establish a collaborativ relationship with thes officers and other emergency workers. i think there were some othe things said by the police union, and she reached out during you

campaign how else do you put a workin with the chicago police to putin true public safety now the campaign is over >> again, it does require balanced approach. and one of the things that i believe is critically importan for our officers to make sur that they know what thei assignment is every single day too often, policing has no demonstrated a consistency i supervision. and what tends to happen i that a police officer shows up to work, and there's a different supervisor and unfortunately, there is lot of challenges that com with that. we also have to make sure that law enforcement is not only -- law enforcement should not b asked to do their job an someone else's and this is what i have called for repeatedly

to make sure that we have firs responders that can address th 9-1-1 calls that are overwhelmingly mental health crises back in march, the los angeles police department released a article outlining in detail th policies that i have bee promoting. not just as a teacher an organizer, but as a candidat for mayor. many of our police officer could certainly benefit from mental health support, as well they are experiencing trauma and an unprecedented rate. and the individuals that the are responding and reacting to our also experiencing trauma so we need more mental healt crisis workers to do that. and to the last point, we have to solve crime in the city o chicago. the clearance rate is abysmal. we have, in certain communities, we are looking at 15 to 20% of crimes that are actually being solved so i have committed to trainin and promoting 200 more

detectives, so we have a bette clearance rate the bottom line is this, w have to have a balance approach, reverend al. we have to deal with the immediate crises of solvin crime and bringing calmness to the streets of chicago while also making investment so we are actually getting a the root causes of the violence that's what the people o chicago voted for, and i loo forward to being sworn in in a few weeks. >> and you ran on this that you would identify it a the defund the police candidate, and the voters didn't buy it the night we did to get out th vote rally, i said that -- you were defining policing mayor elect, brandon johnson thank you for being with us. just ahead, republicans ar tapping into right-wing anger. they are brewing up nothing bu bigotry. that is next in this week'

gotcha first, my colleague jessic layton with today's other to news stories >> in sudan, heavy fighting fo control of the country continues after u.s. force evacuated embassy personne from the capital there hundreds of civilians have bee killed, including at least one american president biden has called for an immediate cease fire betwee rival groups bed bath & beyond filed fo chapter 11 bankruptcy today, after a year full of job cut and store closures the retailer has seen sale slump in recent years, as it faced increasing competition from online giants like amazon that investigator said california's disneyland ar trying to figure out wha caused a 45 foot tal animatronic dragon to burs into flames last night hundreds of parkers had to b evacuated from that area several disneyland cast member were treated for smoke inhalation, and thankfully wer released i'm jessica layton, keep i

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republican let me start with you, mis demings. in the coming days president biden is expected to announc his bid for a second term in the white house. but new nbc news polls show 70 of americans don't want bide to run for reelection, including over half of democrats. he is most likely -- doesn't fare much better more than 60% of americans don't want to see donald trump running again either what kind of message do yo think president biden should deliver if and when he doe launch his campaign? >> reverend sharpton, it's goo to be with you carlos, it's good to see you a well look, the biden harris administration has been abou getting things done. coming out of the pandemic dealing with that, war i

ukraine, rising gas prices a recession in the last thre years have been tough. but the biden harris administration, they hav something to run on. they have passed landmar legislation that we have talke about for decades. they've been able to get i done, bring in manufacturing working to reduce inflation at cost for every day people. dealing with gun violence, imagine that during these unbelievable time that we are seeing the safer communities act. so we are excited about th presidents announcement that h is running for reelection. he has been able to get things done jobs, creating jobs. jobs for the president and for the future and we have seen him creat jobs every quarter that he's been in office i'm excited about th announcement yes, there's plenty of work to be done. but i believe president bide

has to remind the american people what he's been able t accomplish during some of th toughest of times. >> you know, carlos, the lac of enthusiasm result in a lowe turnout than we saw in 2020. and the messages that we'r talking about, this is the lowest back up in numbers in history. but if that low turnout were t happen, do you think it' possible it could equate t trump's advantage? >> definitely, rev i think it's remarkable that a overwhelming majority of americans reject both of these candidates i think the american people ar saying that they want to tur the page, they want to see a new generation of leaders. we saw house democrats stepped out and get a new generation o house leaders the opportunit to lead. i think most americans would like both of these presidentia candidates to do the same. and reverend, i do think tha in addition to perhaps helping

the republican candidate, mayb donald trump if there is low turnout, i actually think that we shoul remain skeptical but maybe, for the first tim in a long time, there is actually a market for a thir party candidate. with so many peopl disillusioned an unenthusiastic about the two leading choices right now. >> let's talk abou presidential politics in the state of florida since both of you have represented the state. carlos, a majority o republican members of congress from florida, have endorse trump over president governo ron desantis 11 and oh. some of the lawmakers have complained that desantis has made little effort to reach ou to them. this comes as desantis i having a tough few weeks wit many republicans criticizing his handling of his feud wit disney, and the six-week abortion ban desantis hasn't even announced his run for the white hous

yet. do you think his opportunity t win the nomination is slipping away >> well, rev, it earns out tha human relationships in politic still matter and governor desantis is ver good at getting on tv, when va and i served with him in the house. he was on fox news almost ever single day he is very good at raising money. but clearly, he has no invested time. building relationships wit other leaders from the state o florida, throughout th country. and he was hurt badly by tha this week. it was a very strong show of force to have donald trump pic up so many endorsements from the state that ron desantis is currently leading. so that is a big deal. it's early in this race, thing can change they're in a fairly strong position when you look a today's nbc news poll. but without question, the last few weeks have been very difficult for him. and we don't know yet if he'

the type of candidate that can come and it takes a specia type of personality. and a lot of political strengt to get out of the politica hold desantis is going to be tested in that regard >> that certainly a test val, democrats haven't won a presidential election sinc 2012 and as you know all too well they struggled to win statewid elections there in 2022 as well that has some of the party suggesting they should focus efforts elsewhere. do you think that's a mistake? >> you know, reverend sharpton we are facing some major shown is interstate. a rising property cost, whic we have seen double and triple flooding, more intense, more extreme weather conditions we need to make sure we elec leaders who are focused on those things and care abou those things

we do have a lot of work to do in the democratic party in florida. we're excited about the ne leadership but we should never give up on an opportunity to elec representatives who are goin to work on behalf of the majority of issues that people care about florida a woman's access to abortion i certainly one of those issues, so, yes we have a lot of wor to do. 2024 is next year, but i politics, we know that can b like an eternity so we are going to continue to do the work. we are going to seize every da to register our voters to encourage people to get out to vote, to educate them to make sure that they are - we are not going to miss a opportunity that present itself for us to present democrats statewide in florida >> all right, thank you both for being on tonight and that's msnbc's joe scarborough joins me to talk about its upcoming special

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joe travel to ireland 25 years after the peace agreement, h talked with president biden an also with the architects of th peace deal, former president bill clinton former secretary of state, hillary clinton. former british prime minister, tony blair and others. and you know, joe will ask the questions that you want to hear you can get it straight, monda night at eight joe, welcome back to politicsnation >> thank you so much, rev. it's always an honor to be on. >> now, joe, probably couldn't ask for a bette weekend to have you one. because msnbc's reporting that president biden is expecting t announce his reelection bid as early as two days from now according to those familia with the announcement plan they're saying that -- you have spent some time wit president biden early last week, interviewing him for your msnb

special monday night 8 pm eastern time. and we will get to that in a minute but what can you tell us about that conversation as the president prepares to ask th nation for a second term >> yeah, foul. reverend al, like you, i hav known president biden for long time. and it is pretty easy to rea him. he doesn't hide a lot, and you can tell, he was excited on th trip to ireland. you can tell he was excite about the prospect of runnin again. and i got a sense that despite everything i'd heard, all th background noise i'd heard about not running, that he was looking forward to running again for another four years especially if his opponent i going to be donald trump as you know very well, as he's told you, he was inspired to run by a sense of duty after charlottesville. and things in many ways have gotten worse since

charlottesville. donald trump, since that time, denied the outcome of an election lied about it repeatedly for a year, there was the january 6t insurrection he continues to lie about that insurrection, and continue trying to whip people up into frenzy and he uses violent rhetoric t do that. so there is no reason why jo biden wouldn't run again despite the fact that he's mos underestimated man in politics i think in my adult lifetime >> there's no doubt about that i want to encourage people t watch your special monda night. there is a part of you conversation with former president bill clinton followed by former secretary o state hillary clinton. >> growing up in the 60s and 70s, nobody could have eve imagined piece would come to northern ireland >> the people got out ahead of

the politicians. they are sick and tired of people dying they were sick and tired o worrying about the kids walkin down the street at night they were tired of exaggeratin the differences that their religious heritage gave them and they just wanted to go o living the people got out ahead of th politicians and gave them th courage to do what had to be done >> it was a great moment for american diplomacy and leadership the damage and the distrust an the division was so deep and to see what consistent diplomacy can actually produce when people who have ver different opposing ideas about what they want for their own future, we'll take risks t compromise, and to get t peace. and i think it's a great message, and a continuin lesson to us all >> what did you learn from thi trip

and what you hope our audience learns from this program monda night? >> you know, rev, in a small way, your relationship and m relationship in american politics actually follow som of the lessons of what happene 25 years ago what i heard from presiden clinton, and what i heard from secretary of state clinton was that you had two sides disagreeing with each other an just about everything. they decided it was time t come together, in the best interest of northern ireland and when they did that, you ha gerry adams, who a lot o protestants in northern irelan considered a terrorist and a murderer you had him sitting down wit the very people who had wanted to arrest him and sent him t jail but hillary clinton, all o them said the same thing this worked because people got

tired of fighting each other politically. they got tired of th consequences of being in constant conflict. and so it was a very, very moving i really hadn't thought abou until you just asked me th question i am on here with you. a lot of times people will bring up the differences you and i have had in the past as if they're trying to own me i would say, you don't understand one of the great accomplishments of my adul life in the public has been to go from reverend al and fighting each other to becomin the best friends and what a difference that makes. and i kept asking, what is a lesson we can take fro northern ireland and bring t the united states? it is to tone down the hostility. tone down the exaggerated if rinses and start working together when people start workin together, great things can happen that's what happened i northern ireland, and i know

that's your prayer and m prayer every day, that tha happens in america >> and certainly, ou relationships demonstrate that you were also a very staunch opponent of bill clinton to see both of you sitting there and celebrating this moment is something al americans ought to watch let me thank you for coming on and giving us a little window. i will see you tomorrow morning, on morning joe do not miss the specia tomorrow evening, and ever morning on msnbc the word i give is - it's on the morning, during th weekdays your television just isn't on. joe scarborough presents monda a pm eastern on msnbc. and streaming on peacock up next, my final thoughts stay with us let the scent set the mood.

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