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>> plenty of college freshmen do pretend to be members of the opposite sex if you're transgender and can so much as fly a kite, the pentagon will happily make you an f-35 pilot so hollywood can make a movie about it >> this is a guy who literally couldn't fix the potholes in south bend, indiana, is now the transportation secretary, but he breast feeds so it's equity. >> mr. carlson is being held accountable in a way for some things including documents lies. we showed the evidence tonight then there is so much work to do if we're going to draw lines in this country about facts at a time of extremism and propaganda do you think that the case and today's activities create a new line you can tell me at ari melber, at ari melber on any social media. is there a new line for facts and truth with consequences? it's a conversation that matters more than ever, tonight, and msnbc's coverage of this and other important stories continues now with "the reidout" with joy reid.
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tonight on "the reidout" -- >> we'll be back on monday in the meantime, have the best weekend with the ones that you love we'll see you then >> yeah, no. you will not be seeing tucker carlson tonight or any other night on fox after years of stoking rage, paranoia, and hatred, tucker is off the air. plus, breaking news tonight, a new timeline on when we can expect a decision from fulton county d.a. fani willis on potential criminal charges against donald trump for his efforts to overturn the 2020 election results and we have three very special guests fresh from their white house meeting today with president biden. the tennessee three, justin j. pearson, justin jones, and gloria johnson join me right here in the studio we begin tonight with the abrupt and embarrassing end to
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tucker carlson's reign as the top rated primetime host in cable news this morning, fox announced that the two had agreed to part ways and thanked him for his service to the network that decision apparently came from the very pop, fox corporation chairman rupert murdoch, according to reporting in the l.a. times whose reporter spoke with people familiar with the situation. "the new york times" meanwhile is reporting that tucker was given no heads-up that his time at fox news had drawn to an end, according to two people with knowledge of the timing of the conversation the anchor was told of the network's decision on monday morning, they said in fact, the "wall street journal" says carlson only found out he was being let go about ten minutes before the network announced his departure, according to people familiar with the matter. it could explain why fox chose this morning, still promoting an interview tucker had in store for tonight's show sources at fox told the news rundown site that the news hit
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like a bomb inside the network, shocking even staffers close to the ex-primetime host who had no idea this was coming many at fox, sources says, found out about the ouster when it broke in the news. and here is how fox viewers learned of the news this morning. >> we have some news from within our fox family fox news media and tucker carlson have mutually agreed to parts. tucker's last show was this past friday and starting tonight, fox news tonight will air live at 8:00 p.m. eastern it will be an interim show with rotating fox news personalities until a new host is named. we want to thank tucker carlson for his service to the network as a host and prior to that as a longterm contributor >> so no grand send-off for tuck 'ems. no final show for him to sign off with his viewers it's almost hard to believe that just months ago, tucker wielded
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so much power, kevin mccarthy traded him 40,000 hours of exclusive january 6th footage in his hostage deal to become speaker, yet today, tucker has officially achieved something that i don't think anyone else in our industry can claim, being let go by all three major cable news networks, msnbc, yes, he used to work here, cnn, after john stewart humiliated him live on air, and now fox. but tucker has also achieved something else he arguably has done more on cable television to spread the gospel of hate, fear, and paranoia than anyone since radio propagandist father coghlan in the nazi era of the 1930s. here's just a sample of the content that arguably radicalized millions and millions of americans. >> the left becomes unhinged if you point out that american voters are being replaced by democratic party loyalists from other countries.
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>> white supremacy, that's the problem. this is a hoax just like the russia hoax. it's a conspiracy theory used to divide the country and keep a hold on power. >> here's a funny thing we noticed the other day. people debate all the time about mass immigration our leaders demand you shut up and accept this. we have a moral obligation to admit the world's poor, they tell us, even if it makes our own country poor and dirtier and more divided >> you may be wondering how am i, quote, personally responsible for the behavior of a minneapolis police officer i have never even been to minneapolis, you may think to yourself and why is some politician telling me i'm required to be upset about it those are all good questions >> it's not an actual threat of violence from christians that's inspiring some trans people to buy ar-15s it's got to be more fundamental than that, and it is the trans movement is the mirror image of christianity, and therefore, its natural enemy >> along the way, he became the kremlin's favorite tv show
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>> it might be worth asking yourselves as this is getting pretty serious, what is this really about, why do i hate putin so much? has putin ever called me a racist, has he threatened to get me fired for disagreeing with him? has he shipped every job in my town to russia these are fair questions and the answer to all of them is no. vladimir putin didn't do any of that why does washington hate him so much if jow been watching the news, you know putin is having a border dispute with ukraine. >> and he peddled that stuff for years. he was rewarded for it by his 3 million nightly viewers and, and by the executives at fox so why would fox drop their leading primetime host now that is a question that we're still trying to get answers for. so here's what we do know. fox is still licking its wounds from its massive $787 million settlement with dominion voting systems, which among other things revealed carlson and other hosts' lies and duplicity
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around donald trump and the big lie. there's another big defamation case on the horizon from smartmatic voting systems. that one is demanding even bigger damages and there's also a lawsuit from former fox producer abbey gross brg, who worked on tucker's show and claims that he presided over a misogynistic, gross, and discriminatory workplace culture. in a legal filing, she alleges that tucker carlson created a work environment that subjugated women based on vile, sexist stereotypes, type casts religious minorities and belittled their traditions and demonstrated little to no regard for mental health. pretty much what you saw from him on television. according to the l.a. times, tuck 'ems' exit is related to that lawsuit that is apparently the line that is considered too far for fox. not the racism or the on-air misogyny or the anti-immigrant bashing, the white replacement theory or being a tool for russia and other authoritarian
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regimes. that was all fine. but when the toxic culture within fox is exposed and it threatens to cost rupert money, that's when you gotta go remember, that is what happened with tuck 'em's predecessor, bill o'reilly, who was then fox's biggest star he was let go after a series of sexual harassment allegations against him became public, with settlement payouts totaling around $13 million joining me now is tara setmayer, senior adviser to the lincoln project, and angelo carasoni i'm going to go to you first because i have met you and you have been fighting this battle against fox and trying to illuminate the racism and the dangers of it. i am very curious what you made of tucker's firing today >> i mean, a couple things when glenn beck got fired it was because he was contrary to their business model he drove away all their
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advertisers and they couldn't make money off him, and they even said that what they did after that was insulate themselves by shifting most of their revenue from cable carriers and part was to pave the way for someone like tucker carlson to do exactly what he does so to make it accountable-free, consequence-free, so nothing could hit the bottom line. so what do i think about it? the first is it's great for america, really bad for fox, because he pretty much satisfied and was the only person that satisfied an appetite amongst the fox news audience of not just these conspiracies -- >> uh-oh we lost angelo let's get his audio back you know, the magic of the internet, the interwebs. let me bring you in, tara. tucker had to fire his chief writer at one point because he was on pro-nazi websites posting. he arguably helped to incite january 6th insurrection even though he literally hated and
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admitted that he hated donald trump with a passion he himself admitted he's a liar. here's tucker carlson calling himself a liar >> i lie if i'm really cornered or something i lie. i really try not to. i try never to lie on tv i just don't -- i don't like lying. i certainly do it. you know, out of weakness or whatever >> and one more item this is a quote from what fox's lawyers said in a previous lawsuit tucker was involved in quote, the general tenor of the show should then inform a viewer that carlson is not stating actual facts about the topics he discusses and is instead engaging in exaggeration and nonliteral commentary. fox persuasively argues that given mr. carlson's reputation, any reasonable viewer arrives with an appropriate amount of skepticism about the statements he makes, except they don't. they don't he arguably has radicalized millions of people to believe what he says and maybe act on
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it your thoughts. >> well, first of all, rest in peace to the furrowed eyebrow feigned outrage of tucker carlson that we no longer have to listen to him spew his garbage every night. this propaganda has been platformed and financed and encouraged by the murdochs let's not forget who is responsible for tucker carlson's success here they allowed him to platform conspiracy theories, pro-insurrectionists, to have love affairs with authoritarians like orbon to become putin's propaganda puppet and useful idiot in america. this is on rupert murdoch and what fox news has allowed for the last 20 years and in particular over the last ten years or so and under the trump era where they have glorified this i mean, what tucker carlson has done to undermine our democracy and institutions through this enormous platform that he's been given and this right-wing media ecosystem is rather
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extraordinary. but it poses a direct threat to our democracy. and you can see the throughline to the distrust in institutions, to see the radicalization of the republican party, directly from what fox news and tucker and the rest of them in primetime have allowed and have spewed, and what we see now. this is completely out of control. and you can see by the reaction also of the maga faithful out there, they are losing it. they are apoplectic over this because their guy is now no longer the number one cable news propagandist out there in the country. they are having a meltdown, so what does that mean for fox? that's another interesting aspect to all of these things. but it's just, it's really shocking obviously to all of us to see a fox news take this step, like right out of the pages of a succession episode. but, but this doesn't mean that fox is going to course correct are they because there's a hell of a lot of other people at fox that need
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to go also if they're going to try to clean house here from the top down, rotten from the very core here. and let's not forget who is responsible, rupert murdoch and his minions. >> absolutely. angelo is back i'm going to let you finish your thought. look, i'm going to be honest with you i think everyone over there, they're all right wingers but i don't think sean hannity is dangerous. to me, he doesn't seem dangerous. laura ingraham, i never hear people quoting the things she says she's a right winger too there's something particularly to me pernicious about him not just the -- he literally accused my friend and former colleague here, tiffany cross, of being the hutus and tootsies and inciting race war. he's gone after the justins in the most racist way. i have never heard people able to be as racist as he has been on tv and gets away with it and was rewarded for it. finish your thought from earlier. >> yeah, i think that's basically the point. he was a bubble within a bubble,
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and i agree completely, a uniquely destructive force that was enabled by the murdochs. he repeatedly thanked them for keeping him on air despite all the controversies and blowback to your larger point, even though fox itself won't change, and i think in part it's because tucker helped fuel and build this blood thirst and this appetite that that audience is going to want to be satisfied. and fox is going to aggressively work to make sure they can satiate that part of the reason he was so uniquely destructive, that he pulls in the things that were right on the edges and laundered them through the fox news apparatus not just into the right-wing ecochamber, but directly into the republican party. he built this pipeline and then leveraged the tools at his disposal to reshape and replace our politics great replacement theory is now totally acceptable in the republican party because tucker talked about it several thousand times on fox news. >> tara, to that point, kevin mccarthy gave only one person
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that exclusive footage, he didn't give to any journalist, and tucker, his own company says he's not a journalist. he's the only one who got it you have the governor of texas agreeing before the man is even sentenced to pardon a man who shot a black lives matter marcher even though now it's coming out that he put up racist text message after racist facebook post and may have propositioned a 16-year-old kid, and that person might walk free from a pardon because tucker told him to. that's how much power this guy had. i can't think of anyone else at fox that has that kind of power other than rupert murdoch. >> you're right. and what else they did, they also mainstreamed the insurrection and tried to white wash it as if it were some type of tourist -- a tourist trip gone wrong just there were a couple of bad actors they let tucker carlson put that horrific conspiracy theory laden documentary on air, and it was so disrespectful to law
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enforcement in this country, and you look at that it's outrageous. so you look at all of these things and it circles back to how this is undermined our democratic institutions and radicalized millions and millions of people who ingest this night after night after night. and now, you see where is maga going to go? you have marjorie taylor greene and her minions saying they're going to follow tucker wherever he goes and my colleague rick wilson said, what, to hell maybe to the trash heap of history, which is where they all belong this doesn't end here. we're glad to see this, like angelo said, it's one step, but there's a long way to go to combat this disinformation and indoctrination from the white supremacy to like i said, love affairs with authoritarians. this is very dangerous to our constitutional republic, and i hope that more and more people call it out and that we can combat this somehow, because the danger it poses, we're seeing every single day, because half of them, they don't believe it,
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these people it's so duplicitous, they don't even believe it, but the people they're preaching to, they do. and look at what we have now, we have a civil war potentially, cold civil war that could go hot at any time because of people like tucker carlson and rupert murdoch. >> and angelo, first of all, the way you know he got fired, i had a show canceled. i was asked to do a final show when you don't get to do a final show, it's the equivalent in tv of a death penalty he was fired >> he was supposed to do an interview tonight that fox news was promoting most of the morning. so this was totally brupt. he didn't get to do a last show, say good-bye it's about as significant as rush limbaugh being fired in 1996 >> real quick, before we go, what do you make of the speculation this is because of the abbey grossberg suit because they have fired people before they fired bill o'reilly because of sexual harassment suits, that it could be because of that or things he might have said, there's a lot of speculation of what was in the other text
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messages that weren't released but the suit might have been the final straw? >> look, we got a small flavor of what he says about trump, his colleagues, indirectly once you pierce that veil, it's not that much of a stretch to realize there's a lot more trash talking that tucker carlson probably did if you're fox, you're doing a big risk assessment to get a handle on how to course correct and he's a massive liability the fact is you have to have reason to believe. that is his personality, that is who he is, and so just imagine a little more discovery, a lot more damage. >> and some of his bosses are women, and maybe they actually thought it was a bridge too far to allow somebody to be as misogynistic in house as he is on tv. sorry, tuck 'ems, this is the way it goes. thank you, tara setmayer, thank you, angelo, and up next on "the reidout," breaking news tonight from georgia d.a. fani willis reveals new information about when she will decide whether or not to indict
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. late today, fulton county district attorney fani willis said she would announce this summer whether donald trump and his allies would be charged with crimes related to alleged interference in georgia's 2020 election it is the clearest timeline that willis has given regarding potential indictments after
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saying in january that charging decisions were, quote, imminent. in a letter to the fulton county sheriff's office, willis asked law enforcement to increase security in the coming months, writing, quote, decisions in this case may provoke a significant public reaction. we have seen in recent years that some may go outside of public expressions of opinion that are protected by the first amendment to engage in acts of violence that will endanger the safety of our community. as leaders, it is incumbent upon us to prepare. joining me is greg bluesky, political reporter and msnbc political contributor. greg, thank you so much for jumping in at the last minute. this is some relatively late breaking news. what do we know about the delay? because we did hear the word imminent in january, and then in the period in between then and now, we have heard that the investigation has expanded to include potential interference in the senate elections as well as the presidential.
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does that explain the delay and what do you know about this new timeline >> i think a few things explain the delay. one, the fulton county district attorney is generally concerned about law enforcement response to potential threats she wants to give the local sheriff and local authorities more time to deal with protests and counterprotests and all the scrutiny that could be on the fulton county courthouse so she's now setting this window between july and september there are indications it could be as early as next month, so this shifts the timeline but the other thing this indicates is that the investigation as we saw from court filings as recently as last week is still ongoing fulton county prosecutors were still grilling fake electors and getting more details there was indication that one could be cooperating and that some were saying that another fake elector could have violated a state law. so that to me, and that to legal experts more importantly, signals this investigation is still very much active
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>> and is there any indication just from reporting and what you're hearing whether or not the targets are more the fake electors or whether trump is included in those who should be concerned about indictment >> legal experts say that this letter is maybe the clearest indication yet that donald trump could be one of the targets in this criminal prosecution. he could be indicted what we have also heard others in trump's inner circle from rudy giuliani and beyond, and of course, the fake electors themselves are also potential criminal targets we don't know anything yet for sure because fani willis has not said anything about that, but we have determined from even interviews with the special grand jurors that there could be a number of high-profile targets in this investigation. >> let's go through some of the people who have been deposed or testified, i should say, in front of the fulton county d.a brian kemp, brad raffensperger, john eastman, is there any
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indication the former two united states senators have been questioned now that we know per cnn's reporting there was an attempt or desire to potentially interfering in those elections as well? >> that's definitely a part of that investigation i can tell you some of the names on the screen just now are not potential criminal targets governor kemp, brad raffensperger, they were two of the republicans who said no to trump's demands to overturn the election they might have had corroborating parts, very minor roles in the investigation the late house speaker david rolston was also interviewed before his death he was one of the republicans who recorded a phone call, had a recorded phone call of donald trump calling him and urging him to call a special session to overturn the election results. so there's a number of folks who stood up to donald trump's demands to overturn the election who were also interviewed as witnesses. >> we know cleta mitchell, she was also interviewed this is the trump lawyer who was advising him who seems very much into overturning the election.
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she's come up recently because of audio of her talking about suppressing young voters any news about her standing? >> cleta mitchell and other pro-trump attorneys have been under scrutiny from this entire special grand jury panel, not just for their roles in trying to reverse the election results, but also the roles during the run-off. they played a very active role during the entire run-off process in georgia and now with these text messages that were surfaced over the weekend, that could be a part of fulton county district attorney fani willis' ongoing investigation of what happened particularly in southwest georgia in coffey county as pro-trump officials were trying to throw out votes from that county >> wow, always great to have you on so informative greg, thank you very much. really appreciate you. up next, i'll talk to all three members of the tennessee three who just met with president biden at the white house to discuss gun reform. you do not want to miss it
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today, the tennessee three were at the white house. they were the white house three today. state representative justin jones, gloria johnson, and justin j. pearson got the vip treatment from president biden >> stand up for our kids, you're standing up for our communities, safer communities, and democratic values.
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and all three of you speak so well about why you're doing what you did and why you continue to do it. look, what the republican legislature did was shocking it was undemocratic, and it was without any precedent. you turned it around very quickly. >> their visit with the president and with vp kamala harris comes just days after the tennessee legislature ended a session filled with undemocratic assaults on drag performances, democratic members, and the nashville metro council, which state republican lawmakers wanted to punish because they blocked the 2024 national convention from coming to the music city the session was objectively a failure because a federal judge has temporarily blocked the bill limiting drag performances calling it constitutionally vague, while a three-judge panel blocked tennessee from immediately enforcing the nashville metro council law which would have cut the number of council members in half until
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at least the next election cycle. in the wake of the covenant school shooting, governor bill lee did successfully push $140 million for school resource officers for public schools. but republicans failed to pass any meaningful gun measures. since the shooting, thousands of people have descended on the state capitol to lobby lawmakers while families sat in committee meetings and in the galleries calling for gun reform their calls fell on deaf ears. instead of listening to the public, republicans who have a supermajority in the legislature plowed ahead with the unprecedented expulsion of two black democratic members who listened to the people and demanded action. a testament to the tennessee being the least democratic state in the country the republicans' stubborn insistence on punishing dissent dominated the final days of the session and created a national embarrassment for the republican party. joining me now are the tennessee three, justin j. pearson, justin
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jones, and gloria johnson. thank you for being here it was an honor just to meet you all in person. we have been covering the story from day one because of the unprecedented nature of what happened to you. before i get to that, i'm going to ask each of you, the white house today. meeting for you, being there, and what do you think you got from it and what did you hear from the president and vice president. >> a very meaningful day for me, district 86, and the people we're fortunate to represent to go into a place built by formerly enslaved african american folks, speaking about the voices of the marginalized and those being too often excluded in situations like the one we're in dealing with the issue of gone violence, the need for gun control, and the need for gun reforms. today, hearing from the president and vice president about the reality that this issue cuts across party lines, that it isn't just a democratic or republican issue, it is a moral issue about whether or not we're going to care about kids, whether we're going to care about communities, and whether
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we're going to have the courage to do the things necessary to create the change we need to see and be inspired, motivated, and engaged that way was helpful and important. also, it is making me commit myself further to this movement. because it is the voices of thousands of people in tennessee and across the country that are waking up a resurrection of sorts with renewal toward the mission that we can end gun violence, we can prevent a lot of murders and tragedies we're seeing and even in a place like tennessee which has for too long not been invested nationally, for too long said this isn't a place of opportunity, of progress, even in a place like tennessee, we're seeing hope be resurrected. >> amen. you know he's a preacher's son because he preached again. let me go to you, representative johnson. you were a teacher >> yes >> i know this issue resonates with you in a way it resonates with me, as a teacher and a mom. the president's wife is a teacher. >> yeah. >> i am sure he talked to you about that what was your conversation like
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with the president and the vice president? >> just wonderful because he really does understand that perspective, and you know, dr. biden came to nashville after the shooting she was there. and so we appreciated that so much, that they were paying attention to what's happening in tennessee. tennessee sometimes feels left out. but as an educator, just knowing, you know, all of us are going through these drills, you know, teachers are actually doing drills to keep kids safe and the idea of that, i grew up in a time when that was not a concern. but these guys are growing up in a generation that that's been the reality their whole life and they were also recognizing the national teacher of the year today at the white house, so that was kind of cool. but it's just critical, i have been at a school that had a shooting when that happened, we lost a student. you will never forget the terror on those kids-faces. the tears and just the shock and trauma that everyone
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collectively had that day and how it continues on. so it's important to have a president and a vice president that understands that so well. and kamala harris really understands movements. you know, we talk a lot about how do you keep the movement going? we talked about that with president biden. and they just really get it. and it's so nice to have a white house that understands that. >> and representative jones, right, the two of you are my kids' age, and they grew up having these active shooter drills they were traumatizing for my kids they were traumatizing for me as a mom. they said you're going to meet at this park and this is where you will find out if your child is alive or dead i still can't get over that. and my kids, you guys are their age. so for you, what was the meaning of being there today, and how do we keep this movement going? because you all have definitely sparked an international movement >> definitely. i think the biggest message leaving this meeting with the white house and that we stressed is this is not a moment.
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it's a movement. it's happening in the south in a place where we have an nra endorsed governor calling a special session around gun violence because of this multiracial, multigenerational, multifaith state-wide movement that's really creating this coalition of consciousness to shift political priorities that's what gave me hope from the meeting at the white house today. i know i stress that at some point we do something outside of the ordinary when john lewis led a sit-in on congress, that was unordinary. if we're going to get action, this will be our selma moment, we have to do something outside of the ordinary. i really believe that tennessee can set a model for the rest of the nation if we can pass these common sense gun laws in tennessee, the vast majority of tennesseans from republicans to independents to democratic support, will send a model to the nation. >> it's important you mention the south. i have a thing that annoys me about the democratic party they look at the south and say that's the republicans'
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territory. it used to be the democratic base it was a different kind of democrat, but it is a place where there are a lot of black folks and where half of black folks still live and where gun violence is actually at a higher rate it occurs at a higher rate more death what were you all able to say to president biden about that, about whether the democratic party needs to go back and focus on the south >> one of the things we have to realize even in this moment of being reinstated which is a moment of triumph, we remember the tragedy of the covenant shooting we remember in our communities we had constituents and family members like i had larry thornton, my old class mate, who died this year because of gun violence there's been a tragedy that has precipitated the need for this conversation because of the proliferation of guns in the quantity, and the lack of courage of people because they're so worried about the nra, which gave letters to
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all our republican members just last week. when we think about how we continue to advocate, move forward, build power, it's centering the voices in our communities and in the south the test for our country is what's happening in the south. if we negate what's happening in the place with the most african americans an places that were the pillars of the civil rights movement, if we negate those places, we're negating our history >> we know some people do want to negate history. not here we're going to keep everyone here when we come back, i want to talk about what republicans actually did pass in their session and what they didn't we're doing to do that right after this break
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teaching social justice, racial equality, political science and social work and psychology and other fields anti-trans legislation ban on gender affirming care ban on drag performances liability for drug manufacturers in the state, $150 million in raises for teachers, and transportation funding this does not sound like the priorities, other than teachers getting money, of the people of tennessee. what is the point? >> i mean, that isn't a moral agenda even the teachers raises, the part that was left out is they attacks teachers unions with that raise there's always a catch you see this immoral extremist agenda that is meant to distract from their failures. in tennessee, 1 in 5 children live in poverty. we had more hospitals close than any other state in the united states we have extreme poverty, and they want to focus on these issues because they don't want
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to talk about how they failed as a upermajority mrb they contro every branch in tennessee and people's lives are still suffering. that is what this agenda is, an agenda to try and have you look over here so you don't pay attention to what's happening over here. >> i couldn't believe it when i was hearing it, this is a mom trying to speak with a representative in scott campbell this isthex change that blew my mind take a listen. >> getting shot with a handgun versus an ar-15, you don't want to give them even the slightest chance >> there are a lot of ways that people can die >> that was -- that blew my mind that seems to be the mentality is there anyone in the republican side who thinks differently than that, that you can even come together with to pass gun reform legislation. >> there are some who will say it quietly behind a closed door. but do they have the courage of knowing what's right, the courage to put children before
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guns that is our concern. i think there's 24 of us, if we could get 26 of them to agree, i think there probably are 26 of them that might agree with us. do they have political courage do they have the ability to vote the right way to put kids first before guns? that is the question >> is it the tennessee firearms association, the nra, who is in control of these people? >> it's definitely the tennessee firearms association, definitely the nra, and also the leadership of the tennessee house republican party, that representative you showed, he resigned after sexually assaulting a 19-year-old intern, and that went under wraps for three weeks because of the leadership of cameron sexton and william lambert, who allowed for that representative to stay in the house while they wer >> representative jones, you are the one of the few why first heard -- progress on? that any progress? >> i mean, i talked to a few republicans in the las
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possession or questioning hi leadership because h represents such an increas anti-democratic voice. he sounds like his own members they are republicans who said, you should put out and statement say we're not gonn take any action, without eve talking to their own members so, they're making decisions and silencing their voices within their own party who wan to pass common sense gun law because of the majority of tennesseeans a cross party support them >> then in the governor, governor bill lee, he is, he seems to be for red flag laws. is there a chance that actuall could pass >> and that's a new development, you know, i think with the movement, with all the young people, with the parents, with the republicans showing up, an the independents showing up, that 9000 people we had form a human chain, from vanderbilt hospital to the legislature. i think we absolutely can, but it's gonna be that movement of the people that are gonna have to make that difference. >> that movement is dependin on the justin's generation are people, when they're showing up to your rallies, ar they registering to vote >> people are registering to
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vote, but some of them, an this is the important part some of them can vote yet. there's a lot of children in middle school, in high school, who are leading this movemen because they don't want to continue to be viewed and seen as the school shooting generation and there is a deep-seated believe and a hope that th future that they inherit, th future that they create as one that is free from this type of violence so, they're taking action now. and this is the responsibility of people in positions of powe to help build this multiracial and this intergenerational movement for change. >> and i love the fact representative jones, that you also included hospitals, makin sure people are not hungry this is a movement that is bigger if you are really pro-life, yo want to people to eat, you wan them to survive high school. you are all our great. this is my unbiased opinion. y'all are great. sign me up thank you, tennessee state representatives, justin j. pearson, well justin jones, an gloria johnson y'all are great. thank you so much. up next, we have a quite surprising fan of the readou blog
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myself i got mine back to, s that michael jackson, anthon bourdain, and kobe bryant, and to name a few, who definitel didn't handle eight bucks from beyond the grave but an even more unintentionally hilarious thing, donald trump screams into th void, truth social the former president quoted ou very own ja'han jones, write of the reidout blog, to duncan for the man rhonda scent is. there post where ja'han jone wrote that governor desantis may have been looking fo coordination when him at lawmakers and washington instead, he got a clown show and ja'han jones joins me now, reading this is -- okay, apparently, donald trump reads the reidout blog, so welcome, donald trump, to th ja'han jones fandom. give him some more content he loves your blogs. tell us what's gonna be on the reidout blog next? >> thank you for having me on, joy. i just wanted to say, to quote trump, after posting that a lo of people ask me what my
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thoughts were, i just wanted t say, you know, i want nothing, i want nothing, i want no quic -- [laughter] >> it's very odd, happenin over the past few days but you see how angry the mang ecosystem is when facts kind o penetratetheir world so, yes it's been very odd but this is one of those situations where two people yo loathe get into a spat and the there's really no -- no when you can root for i this situation so, we are moments away, i'm sure, from being cited as some trump rally, or where trum talks about the middle run the sanctimony us, sided on th reidout blog many people are -- >> money people are saying this this ja'han jones -- [laughter] >> many floridians - [laughter] >> they all love me -- well, listen, tell us where we can read the readout blo latest post. i know it's msnbc.com slash th reidout block, right >> yes
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and that is a post about how ron desantis's trip to washington, d.c. to garner support ended up being a massive failure. it's coming up soon on the reidout blog but i focus on the intersectio of tech and politics it's really been in th conversation around tiktok and elon musk's ownership of twitter. you are just talking about twitter and kind of th disaster that has been going o under elon musk's ownershi over the past two years. so that's gonna be my focu over the coming months and years ahead, for sure. >> well, we love that donald trump is a fan of both ja'ha jones and myself but, you know, donald, we're still gonna report on you bein an authoritarian nightmare so, i can't help you there ja'han jones, thank you very much he does a great donald trump impersonation, by the way. you can find the reidout and all of our usual social medi places, ask for my persona account, you can join me o facebook, tiktok, instagram, and spout-able at julien reed. and that is tonight's reidout. i'm handing it off to my colleague joe scarborough fo his msnbc special.
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