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we began the hour with nicolle wallace's newsworthy interview. we have heard about the new tapes we obtained, new sound from peter navarro when he was being recorded, and we heard that jack smith, the special counsel, is seeking some of the same evidence we have been reporting for you. newsworthy to say the least. msnbc has you covered on a very busy night
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"the reidout" with joy reid starts now tonight on "the reidout" -- >> we made a lot of progress because of all of you. but there's more to do so let's finish the job. >> american split screen, president biden launches his re-election campaign as donald trump faces day one as the defendant in the e. jean carroll civil lawsuit accusing him of rape also tonight, the fallout from monday's media red wedding maga world is raging at fox for firing tucker. and what's the real story behind don lemon's departure from cnn we begin tonight with the long awaited but unsurprising news that joseph biden jr. will seek a second term as the 46th president of the united states >> this is not a time to be
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complacent that's why i'm running for re-election. because i know america i know we're good and decent people i know we're still a country that believes in honesty and respect and treating each other with dignity that we're a nation where we give no safe harbor, we believe everyone is equal, everyone should be given a fair shot to succeed in this country. every generation of americans have faced a moment when they have to defend democracy stand up for our personal freedom, stand up for the right to vote and our civil rights and this is our moment >> today marks the fourth anniversary of biden's announcement of his 2020 campaign when he told america that the fascism he saw in charlottesville, virginia,
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inspired him to run and win. since his election, he has crisscrossed the country, touting his infrastructure plan, he also spent time talking about how he boosted manufacturing, lowered prescription drug prices and made the largest investment in the environment in recent history. that is of course the biden campaign pitch, and campaigns are about selling a narrative helpful to the candidate, full stop, but the actual facts of what happened in the country over the past three years do back biden up. these policies that biden are touting are real they are being implemented unemployment really is low, the economy is just factually doing well there are statistics and numbers that align with biden's message. however, if you tune in to fox, you literally enter a different reality. in the fox reality, nothing good is happening in biden's america. absolutely nothing in fact, we live in a dystopian hellscape where no one is safe,
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immigrants are evil, liberals are lazy woke dejenerates. it's basically thunder dome. >> she was so beholden to the progressives and to the left that people died because of that mentality, that social justice nonsense >> trying to do everything they can to get rid of guns, and what about all the people, what about that single 18-year-old girl who is just trying to get her education or go to work? don't you feel for her how is she going to protect herself in these radical cities. >> thew signs the democrats are out of control >> stunning video from our southern border shows throngs of people crossing into our nation illegally. >> now it's about the tennessee 3% because that's about what they represent, about 3% of tennessee. it should be the chicago three or the san francisco three, because that's how they're acting >> i mean, this is what a significant portion of the american public is consuming on a nightly basis, y'all and some of their most avid viewers who are vying to take on
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joe biden are regurgitating that fox maga talking point set of craziness as if it's all real. >> we're dealing with a lot of political drama that's unnecessary because you have political vengeful people out there, and we should be talking about the fact that every state is now a border state. >> the federal government should be taking care of the immigration issue and they should be taking care of the ccp issue. >> that's the kind of courage we're going to need to muster to go after this sacred cows from woke religion in the form of affirmative action to this new climate religion which is shackling the american economy and culture. >> okay. okay i feel like you know and i know what is real, right? like, we live in the real world. many of us live in cities that are not hellscapes where women have freedom and folks aren't walking into with the equivalent of an m-16 republicans at this point, they're so completely
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disconnected from reality that a majority do nod even believe biden was elected even though the anchors they listen to know he actually was and they admit it in group chats. they do not believe the january 6th assault on our capitol was an undemocratic attempt to steal an election, if they believe it happened at all. republicans in general do not believe that the majority of americans oppose a ban on abortion access, that most americans support stricter gun laws and immigration, and do not want to ban books or drag shows. to put it bluntly, they do not believe the objective facts that are literally googleable which explains their need for alternative facts, as kellyanne conway once suggested during her time with the trump administration take for example the rnc's fever dream of a hypothetical second biden term that they cooked up, and this is true, entirely with artificial intelligence. >> this morning, an embuildened china envades taiwan
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>> financial markets are in freefall as 500 regional banks have shuttered their doors >> border agents were overrun by a surge of 80,000 illegals >> city officials closed the city of san francisco citing crime and the fentanyl crisis. >> who is in charge here >> it feels like the train is coming off the tracks. >> chatgpt, no to make clear, those images you just saw are fake, and the scenes were entirely made up but republicans and fox, they know that their people will believe them but you know what images are real these images, of america under trump, which includes insurrectionists trying to crush an officer to death because he wouldn't let them overthrow our democracy. or these images of law enforcement violently clearing peaceful protesters so donald trump could pose with a bible. or these images of people taking to the streets after trump's appointed judges ended women's constitutional right to own their own bodies these things actually happened because of trump
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and they are things that the majority of voters continue to reject over and over again see kari lake, mehmet oz, blake masters, or donald trump for recent examples. and here is the wildest part on some level, elected republicans know that what i'm saying is true they know that their vision of america isn't real, that most people do not want to live the way they want us to. you know how i know that you know what their tell is? they keep silencing dissent. they keep making it harder and harder to vote and they keep gerrymandering their way to power the question for voters in 2024, it seems to me competency or chaos choose your adventure. joining me now is mike memally cristobal alex, former senior adviser to the biden 2020 campaign, and msnbc analyst and former senator, claire mccaskill.
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i'm going to go to you first because you have actually run for office in the real world and also faced the fake world. and you know how powerful it is. i'm just going to take you back to 2022, this is four years after your last election in missouri just look at these ads real quick. >> they want to defund the police, even as crime rages out of control across the state. josh riley, extreme liberal dangerous. >> mandela barnes stands with defund the police and supports no-cash bail that releases dangerous criminals back into our communities. >> streets are exploding with drugs and violence while liberals like tim ryan attack and defund our police. >> they all lost they all lost, claire, because that message of dystopia works is biden -- what is biden in for? i don't know go on. >> well, i'm not sure that it's going to work this time. i think what they have done, after dobbs, and after all the
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slaughter in schools with military style weapons, i sense that there is a majority of americans that see the republican party as extremists and the clown car is running the circus in the republican party the most extreme voices are getting the most play. and let's remember, it's really important, joy, to get perspective here tucker carlson was the number one host at fox. he had about 3 million viewers a night. over 150 million people voted for president last time. so i think it's easy to assume that what they're peddling over there is what the majority of the republican party thinks. there's a whole lot of republicans i know in missouri frankly that voted for me back in the day that are very uncomfortable with the fact that in missouri the government is going to force a rape victim to give birth to the child of her rapist they are very uncomfortable with banning books and defunding
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libraries. they're very uncomfortable with the gun slaughter going on and i think that's where joe biden wins in a binary choice between the extremists and somebody who wants to unite us and appeal to our better angels. >> let me go to you, mike. our biden whisperer. as i watched his launch ad today, the word i wrote down just a moment ago is nostalgia he's a nostalgia candidate he genuinely believes that vision of america he put forward. he runs as this sunny optimist who says we're better than all of this, even though sometimes we're not better than all this, but he believes it does he believe he can leap frog over what is coming where they're essentially going to portray him as a demon straight from the pit of hell >> i have been talking a lot about a lot of bad poll numbers for the president. as i have been talking to senior biden strategists one of the things that has always been
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underappreciated about president biden is whenever they talk to focus groups, ordinary voters, people see him as an optimist, someone who has been through difficult times in his own life and continued to maintain this optimistic vision of the country. so as they contrast that and we saw it clearly in that announcement video with what they see is a republican vision of a very dark, backwards looking america, they think that ultimately americans are going to reward the president for that we see the three legs of the campaign stool today that democracy argument, what envir vice president harris is doing right now, holding a rally on abortion rights, but then it's what president biden did today, speak to a union crowd, talk about his economic accomplishments and keep that focus on the middle class. that's why they won the blue wall states in 2020 and that how they think they hold them in 2024 >> what's interesting, i did a little politics in my day, but the think that is so interesting about biden is he still does politics the way politics was done in the '90s
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very meat and potatoes issues. look at the middle class and say look at the things i can do. i'm going to build you bridges and roads. now there's something different he's doing that they never did democrats never ran on abortion. they never touched guns. these now seem to be the most powerful issues in his favor, even with sort of moderate people who might in the past have considered a republican is that kind of the way the campaign is probably thinking about it >> i think that's exactly right. that's what's happening, that's what we're seeing. there's nothing more american than fighting for freedom. that's the message we saw in the campaign today that's had message that's going to resonate with american voters that's what the president is going to be running on you mentioned charlottesville a little while ago i think back to the tiki torch racists marching in the streets, the ones donald trump called very fine people that's the same very fine people who a block away from here sacked the capitol, the very fine people trying to ban books, taking away rights
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and contrast that with what the president is saying about the job that he's already done, the stats you pointed out, record low unemployment rate, 12 million new jobs, fighting for reproductive rights, the vice president fighting for reproductive rights. and he did all of that with a very slim majority but i never thought i would wake up one day and my daughters would have fewer rights than their moms the country is still on this precipice or cliff on the election of donald trump or someone like him like desantis pushing for a six-week ban, that's at stake, and that's what voters will be thinking about in november >> and banning drag shows. let's do the down side, let me go back and start with you, cristobal. there is polling that shows people are really uncomfortable with biden's age according to nbc poll, 70% of americans including 51% of democrats believe biden shouldn't run for president, and age for 48% is a major reason. and the people out there who seem to be the most motivated are the youngest voters.
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gen z and millennials. is that an issue for biden >> no, it's not. i'll start with personal experience i worked close with the president on the last election campaign that he won and i will tell you, having traveled with him, and mike knows this well. he runs his staff ragged he's up earlier than we are, working harder than we are it's exhausting to campaign with him, and that's how he is every day. knowing him, i'm not worried at all about the age. especially when you compare him to donald trump, who is a little younger than he is, but way out of shape >> it seems to me that i saw kamala harris about 18 times in the first 18 seconds of that ad. is that part of the strategy, to push forward his young, you know, partner? >> frankly, some of this is defensive because we have seen republican attacks on the vice president escalate as the campaign years they're wanting to put her front and center the president's team knows they have to put her front and center and build up her numbers as well, but there is also this idea of the president having a
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trusted partner in the white house, that she has shown over the course of the last three years that she can work closely with the president, and ul ultimately, when the president is asked about his age, he says watch me and this is something that the white house, they have acknowledged is an issue they say listen, short of a time machine, we can't change anything about it. and ultimately, this is going to be something voters will make a judgment about >> you mentioned kamala harris and you're her friend, you know her well, claire what a time to have a woman vice president, who is a woman of color, when there is the abortion issue front and sister that young people and women really care about. seems like she's a pretty big asset. >> absolutely, and she's growing in the position. first of all, keep in mind that everybody gives the back of the hand to vice presidents. i remember some really ugly talk about joe biden when he was vice president in the senate cloak room it happens when you're vice president. it's a hard job to rise above. but she's getting there. her trip to africa, the way
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she's going after this issue, the way she is being very relatable to women across america, i think she is going to be a great asset for him and by the way, let's remind everyone, i have yet to hear republicans say that rupert murdoch who is in his 90s is too old to run fox >> great point, and that's kamala harris speaking at her alma mater, howard university, not a bad asset to have if you're running for re-election, and also, season rosenberg said he would rather be biden that the other side given all the issues mike, cristobal, and claire, thank you all, friends up next on "the reidout," we're learning more and more about the intrigue behind the abrupt departures of tucker carlson and don lemon from fox and cnn respectively yesterday "the reidout" continues after this clearchoice dental implants changes your struggle with missing teeth forever. it changes how you eat, how you feel, and how you enjoy life. it changes your smile
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the cable news world is still reeling after yesterday's media red wedding. two of the most high profile cable hosts at fox and cnn, one of them don lemon, a long time journalist, the other of course being tucker carlson, were unexpectedly fired today we're learning more about the big question on everyone's mind, why. for tucker, the reason for his ouster may be hidden in some of the redacted section of some of the dominion filings the redacted portion of the filings themselves contained far more damaging exchanges, utterances hidden far from public view but visible to the murdochs and their lawyers as
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well as lawyers for dominion in which carlson further disparaged her colleagues and bosses and said presumably unseemly things. there's also reports tucker's removal had something to do with another fortcoming lawsuit from his former producer, abbey groce brg, who has detailed a hostile work environment filled with sexism and anti-semitism she told nicolle wallace about her experience working for tucker >> tucker and his executive producer, justin wells, who was also fired, really were responsible for breaking me. and making my life a living hell there are literally pictures like this big of nancy pelosi in a bathing suit in europe plastered all over there was even one on my computer screen for the temporary computer i had to use and i had to take it down just to work. within a few days, i was called in to justin wells' office with alex mccaskill who was a senior
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producer as well, and asked if maria was having an affair with kevin mccarthy it was just, i was shocked >> joining me now is jeremy barr, media news reporter for "the washington post," and david frum, staff writer for the atlantic kudos to nicolle for getting this interview one of the other things abby grossberg said is tucker seemed to be drunk with power a combination of ratings and power, manipulating the audience and the political system there's an aspect of i can pick who the speaker is, who the president of the united states is, or who the republican candidate is going to be, and she thought it was dangerous did tucker start to think he was bigger than fox? >> there's a history of rupert murdoch and this son putting people in their place when they get too big for the network, when they're exercising too much power, when they make big choices about the gop. that was one factor in this firing here. and tucker carlson was sort of uncontrollable a bit by fox
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management he sort of flouted that a bit. he talked to reporters without going through the network. he did a lot of things fox management would have liked him to have not done, but it did generate this massive audience >> they're british, so it's like downton abbey. they kill off their top stars on those shows as well. they got rid of o'reilly, et cetera let's talk about this idea of the power to pick a president. let me play for you, this is a reco recording, not tucker. this is ted cruz talking to maria bartiromo, and this -- ari melber played this in his hour take a listen. >> who is deciding who gets inaugurated? >> it would be the results of the commission and what they find and if they found credible evidence of fraud that undermines confidence in the electoral results in any given state, they would report on that >> david, this is a united states senator discussing with a
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fox news anchor options for blocking president biden's victory and having a commission decide who the president of the united states is not the hundreds of millions of people who voted under those kinds of circumstances, one might see why the top anchor at foxthought that he was in a position to do whatever he wanted and talk trash about his bosses and pick presidents >> what we're about to do in the aftermath of this firing, an important realtime, real world experiment on who drives what. does the power of cable and the power of politics. there are many republicans in the house, not so much in the senate, who are anti-ukraine for reasons of crass partisanship. they got the signal president trump didn't like ukraine, president trump likes russia they didn't care one way or the other. had it been a different president, they would have done it the other way around. tucker carlson really was himself personally invested in anti-ukraine pro-putin messaging. he did that on all kinds of weird issues your colleague rachel maddow
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pointed out how strange it was that tucker carlson took a hostile view of montenegro joining nato montenegro is 2,000 kilometers from russia. and it's a tiny little country with basically a yacht base. why would he care so much about that that came direct from, well, that came direct from somewhere. and the question we're going to see is, with tucker carlson off the air, does fox sort of go back to typical republican, you know, if the president's pro russia, we're pro russia, the the president is pro ukraine, we'll be pro ukraine, we don't care, or has tucker carlson reached something real that is going on inside the republican world with his pro-putin anti-ukraine message will that survive him? great experiment >> also, we'll note that last night, the ratings for the 8:00 hour were unchanged. maybe they want to hear their republican talking points and don't care we'll see. i want to go to cnn. let me play for you a little bit of the interview with a gentleman who is running for
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president on the republican side this was his exchange with don lemon that apparently was a factor in his being let go take a listen. >> black people secured their freedoms after the civil war it's a historical fact, don. just study it, only after their second amendment rights were secured. >> that is not -- you are discounting reconstruction, you're discounting a whole host of things that happened after the civil war when it comes to african americans, including the whole reason that the civil rights movement happened, is because black people did not secure their freedoms after the civil war and that things turned around people tried to change the freedoms that were supposed to happen >> you know how they got it? the nra played a big role. >> the nra did not play a big role that is a lie. >> those were absurdities, let's be clear if that is a factor in the firing of don lemon, that seems to me to be an indication about something about cnn more than don lemon.
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is that accurate per your reporting and is that a sign cnn is trying to reposition itself to take fox's place. the new president of cnn made it clear he wants republicans to feel more comfortable on cnn staffers are not sure what that means. does it mean they don't have to ask tough questions. that interview was clearly pretty contentious they wanted the show to be your family sitting around the kitchen table at breakfast, and that's obviously a more contentious interview. doesn't mean what don lemon is saying is wrong, but it's not the vibe they wanted and maybe that was not the right strategy for this morning show. >> this is the challenge, because we were just talking about fox being complicit in pushing russian propaganda to an audience, and we're not sure if that's what they want or if they're pushing, but if you have a station emulating what fox was and maybe what fox is trying to extricate itself from being, that doesn't sound good for our republic >> cnn's mantra is the news is the star we don't want perments, we don't
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want ego, we want the news to lead the show. that's a very inspiring idea it's not clear that that's what cable tv audiences want, especially during the trump years. cnn became like fox, not idealogically, but in having big personalities. and if they're trying to draw that back, they're now going back to an older model of cable news where the news is the star. we'll see if people watch that >> cnn used to host cross fire, including tucker carlson they wanted the heaton till they didn't want it i think don lemon did a fine job in standing up for real facts and history in that, and it's a shame he's no longer at that network. thank you, jeremy and david. up next, trump's legal travails continue with e. jean carrl'ols civil rape trial against him beginning today. ♪ for colon cancer made me queasy. ♪ ♪ but now i've found a way that's right for me. ♪ ♪ feels more easy. ♪ ♪ my doc and i agreed. ♪ ♪ i pick the time. ♪ ♪ today's a good day. ♪ ♪ i screened with cologuard and did it my way! ♪
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new legal proceedings began today for donald trump this time, a civil case connected to allegations that he raped writer e. jean carroll in a new york department store in the 1990s. trump has denied the allegations calling them a complete scam i interviewed mr. carroll in 2019 here is what she said about what happened >> i walked in right in front of him and he shut the door and bang, right against the wall >> so immediately upon walking into that dressing room, he attacked you >> right against the wall, like i'm just going to love kissing this guy it was -- i was so surprised >> did he say anything or
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indicate trying to get consent from you >> no. >> did he want to kiss you >> can guess this is what he thought -- >> that he could do. he thinks he is a celebrity, he can just kiss you. >> he can take what he wants >> today, the judge settled on a jury of six men and three women for the trial. u.s. district judge lewis kaplan is using an anonymous jury, unusual for a civil trial, but he called it necessary to protect jurors from harassment or worse by trump supporters when the judge addressed potential jurors, he urged them not to use their real names. even with each other if you're bill, you can be john for a few days mr. carroll's case is the first high profile trial seeking to apply the accountability of the me too era to a dominating political figure and yet, one potential juror, a woman, was excused today when she said she believed in the me too movement trump has been accused of sexual misconduct by dozens of women. he's known for boasting on tape about his lascivious behavior
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and stirring up his base with misogynistic comment survivors of his alleged unwanted advances not being his type joining me is a former federal prosecutor great to see you, cynthia. he tried, she's not my type scam, even with this case. donald trump, he said in his deposition that she was not his type, and then this is the photo that the lawyers from ms. carroll put up marla maples and ivana trump trump mistook e. jean carroll for marla maples he couldn't tell them apart. your thoughts on the strategy of saying i didn't rape her, she's not my type? >> i have tried a lot of rape cases because i was a sex crimes prosecutor, so i can tell you that an old case like this can be very difficult. but in this case, you have a very articulate victim, you have
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two outcry witnesses, outcry witnesses in my business are the first people a rape victim speaks to. and they can come forward. they're an exception to the heresy rule. and then you have this frame of the case, which is the "access hollywood" tape, which is i can take whatever i want because i'm a star that fits the other two women who were coming forward, who he also sexually assaulted, and then if you add that he is so disrespectful to the jury that he's not even coming, and then one little thing that i don't think people realize that's a real problem in this case for him, and that is there isn't anybody to do the cross-examinations you know, i'm not of the belief that joe tacopina is dumb. a lot of people make fun of him. i think he's smart, but he is a bully. the last thing that is needed in this case for trump is a bully cross-examining these three women. i think that's a big liability, and trump's going to be in trouble here >> there's another thing that seems to be a liability. so donald trump tried to exclude
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some witnesses from this trial there's a "people" magazine correspondent, this is from the daily beast today. she claimed trump sexually assaulted her too. trump's team argued the incident was different enough that jurors should not hear about it because trump allegedly only touched her shoulders and kissed her and never attempted to touch her genitals the judge said no, she can testify. this is a woman who claimed he basically forced himself kissing her, stuck his tongue into her mouth. she's now going to testify >> right, she's going to testify, and so is the woman on the plane who he also groped so both of those women and they fit into that "access hollywood" frame, right? three women, one pattern i'm a star, i can get whatever i want and the opening statements today were very thematic about that, and everything fits in beautifully. i would expect that the victim testifies first. then we move through these women and then get to damages and the defamation later
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but it's very compelling to have these other two women testify, and it makes the case much stronger than it might otherwise be >> let me play a quick montage of donald trump talking about the things he can do oh, okay we don't have the time let me read a little bit you're standing there with no clothes, is everybody okay you see these incredible looking women so i sort of get away with things like that that's what he told howard stern. just kiss, i don't wait. you can grab them by the um, you can do anything. "access hollywood" 2005. i could go on. he has lots and lots of tape of him saying he can sexually assault women. all of that, does that come in >> he's not going to testify, so it depends on what they got out of him in the course of the deposition it's part of him disrespecting the jury a, not showing up, b, not testifying all we have in the testimony in this case will be his deposition the lawyers for the plaintiff have been very effective about getting out information. for instance, my personal favorite you already brought up
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is when he was mistaken about who his wife was and who the victim was and he couldn't tell them apart there are things in that deposition, they aren't going to call him as a witness. >> it's going to be interesting. please come back so we can keep talking about this we don't know how long it will last, but it's going to be interesting. >> interesting okay, all right. come back. don't make any plans up next, as ron desantis continues to be awol from his state during a flooding crisis in ft. lauderdale, hundreds of drag queens and allies marched on the florida capitol today to protest republicans' draconian an-ltigbtq law we'll be right back.
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nonstop in the two weeks since historic rainfall flooded ft. lauderdale he has yet to visit broward county while he was on the road in utah last week, he pledged to ask the biden administration for a disaster declaration he doesn't have time to fly from tallahassee to ft. lauderdale, he does have time to jet off to japan, one of several stops on an international trip. joining me now is florida state senator chevron jones who spoke today at the protest at the state capitol in tallahassee he claims he's not even a candidate while he's out there jetting around on the florida taxpayer dime. that's a lot of fun. let me play a little bit of who an orlando drag queen had to say at this rally today. >> they hear us, they see us they have phones just like you they know we represent so many others, and if they're scared right now, you damn right they should be scared
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>> senator, you spoke at that event as well. and your message was really powerful, too. is florida awake you said florida is woke has florida been suddenly awakened to the dangers of desantis >> absolutely, joy good to see you. absolutely florida is wide awake. i think whether it's the lgbtq issues, imgraze issues, or the attack on african american studies, all of this is just boiled up to a mass of people who are ready to push back against governor desantis and the republicans and their extremism and what's happening in florida we're constantly, joy, seeing the bills coming across in committee. we're currently now still in committee sitting in for the last seven, eight hours doing what we're not talking about ft. lauderdale, not talking about dealing with the over 60% in rate hikes about to happen to insurance. you know what we're doing? we're continuing to make people's lives more difficult. we're not putting money back in
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flor floridians' pockets. it's unfortunate we're here in this state of florida because the governor wants to run by president. mind you, he's in japan. he flew 19 hours to japan but wouldn't fly an hour and 15 minutes to ft. lauderdale. >> doesn't sound like he cares much about ft. lauderdale. he signed this six-week abortion ban in the dead of night he did release a picture on twitter surrounded by a bunch of women, but it seems to me there are women voters, lgbtq voters, i bet you there are even some trans republicans. has this attack on everybody, it seems, started to change minds about his, i don't know, attractiveness as a presidential candidate beyond just being governor >> you know what, yes. i think what we're seeing now, as governor desantis approaches this failed attempt to run for president, i think you're seeing the pushback from, of course, you're seeing it from democrats
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but you're seeing it from republicans. why? because people see this extremism is not helping anyone. and it sure is not going to help americans. they don't want someone who is going after disney, they don't want anyone who is anti-business, anyone who is anti-democracy, anti-freedom they rejected that before. they rejected donald trump you think they want this again people don't want this people want us to get back to governing. people want us to get back to figuring out the best way to insure they can live healthy, free lives they're not looking at banning books and all these other things happening right now. >> have any republican colleagues expressed any reticence about passing so many anti-gay, anti-black, anti-women bills and there being repercussions for them, or are they so confident they have gerrymandered themselves many of the republicans ar extremely frustrated on what's happening. and i wish many of them woul
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really take a -- profiles in courage and really to stand up to what we are seeing right now but that's not the case. because they fear th retaliation. because the governor's offic has made it clear -- if you go against me, i'm goin to primary or, if you go against me, i' going to go against you. and that's not just the way yo govern i mean, again, i will keep saying - that's authoritarianism. >> yeah. >> that's not a democracy. >> if proud boys was governmen -- that's not the way it supposed to work. state senator shevrin jones, w always appreciate you coming on thank you. good to see you. thank you, cheers. coming up, next on the reidout we are honoring the life and career of singer and activis harry belafonte.
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day for the world of human rights and entertainment a giant of the movie and music industries - actually, giant is a understatement -- harry belafonte, the legendary actor, singer, and civil right activist, which is still fighting 96 years old. mr. belafonte first broke ou as a movie star in the 1950s becoming hollywood's first black leading man. he starred with the grea dorothy dandridge in commo jones, and it island in the sun, a film that was banned acros the south because of his interracial on screen romanc with joan fontaine but it was his music specifically caribbean calypso
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music, which the harlem born harry inherited four from hi martini can martiquan parent -- his 1956 album "calypso" included the song that would become his signature hit ♪ ♪ ♪ the album offered not just belafonte's sultry style, bu also the glimpses of the activist and fighter who mad it, with unapologetically pr black, pro caribbean and eve feminist themes. belafonte also when it tony wa that became the first blac performer to win an emmy but his greatest contributio was as an indefatigable fighte for civil and human rights a longtime friend and confidan of the reverend dr. martin luther king junior, he put his star power behind the fight fo civil rights heavily involved in the 1963
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march on washington, bot speaking and recruiting othe celebrities, like his clos friend and fellow black leadin man sidney poitier, and whit celebrities like paul newman he also devoted his money, putting up bail for dr. king and activists, and funding the student nonviolent coordinatin committee, and dr. king' southern christian leadershi conference belafonte also made history as the first black person to host a late night tv show, fillin in for johnny carson's host of the tonight show for a week an said you are 1968. his guests included celebrities, but also dr. king and senato robert f. kennedy. -- the subject of a documentary called the sit-in, which i co-executive produced. >> - the sinner >> i feel we - in the most critical period of our nation and the economic problem i probably the most seriou
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problem we have in the nea grow community and - >> their speeches made about the fact that we - treat everybody equally and -- >> he came on and spoke to issues of race through the eye of a black children. >> both men would be tragicall assassinated just months later belafonte was among th mourners at dr. kings funeral, seated next to dr. king' without, coretta scott king. he carried activism into his lady ears, leading boycott and marches of south africa -- raise money for famine relie in africa. his work in civil and huma rights - 's human rights causes earne him an academy award in 2014 completing his egot, and harry belafonte never stop fighting, speaking out against donal trump in 2016 and advising organizers of the women' march. on a personal, when i first go
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a chance to meet mr. belafonte in 2017, thanks to my friend and big brother the reverend a sharpton, i informed him tha my mother had been a super fan and madly in love with him bac in the day, and had ever single one of his albums at ou home his response your mother, my dear, ha excellent taste. she did indeed good night and thank, you mr. b. and that is tonight's reidout. all in with chris hayes starts right now. >> it's a night on all in -- >> the programming that we wer putting in the hour every nigh was not just generatin business, but also generatin hatred >> a tucker tell-all from hi ex producer -- >> he was looking for rating spate, purely, and was als looking for power. it's a combination of -- and power and manipulating the audience >> tonight, what we ar learning about what finally di tucker in with brandy zadrozny and ben smith. plus, stunning allegations i
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