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busy news night. joy reid picks up next. tonight on "the reidout" -- >> give me a name. >> white supremacists. >> who would you like me to condemn. >> proud boys, stand back and stand by. >> as we await a verdict in the proud boys trial, how january 6th continues to be a drag on the republican party. as their likely nominee, donald trump, continues to quite literally embrace insurrectionists. also tonight, the sorry state of the right-wing supreme court majority. and the questions their actions raise about the credibility of the court. and actor and comedian john leguizamo will be here right hire on set with me to discuss his new series, leguizamo does america. very, very excited about that. but we begin tonight still awaiting a verdict in the trial of five members of the far right extremist group the proud boys. for their role in the violent attack on the u.s. capitol on

january 6th. all five including the group's former leader enrique tarrio are charged with seditious conspiracy. this is a group that donald trump told to stand back and stand by in the 2020 campaign. along with other far right groups like the oath keepers, the proud boys descended on the nation's capitol, heeding trump's call for what he promised was going to be a wild time. the jury is expected to continue its deliberations on monday. and while the republican party would like nothing more than to be able to move beyond the insurrection, the party's standard bearer is making that all but impossible. as he continues to make litigating the 2020 election and the big lie the main component of his 2024 campaign. trump yet again pushed those debunked conspiracy theories last night at a campaign stop in new hampshire. but probably more problematic for republican party leaders is his continued embrace of the january 6th insurrectionists themselves.

last night, he quite literally embraced one of the rioters who spent 160 days in prison for her actions that day. trump told her to hang in there and that they were going to be okay. >> so sorry what they did to january 6th, so bad. patriots. >> turns out that terrific woman is a qanon supporter who told nbc's vaughn hillyard last year she wants members of congress as well as former vice president mike pence to be executed for treason. >> those were domestic terrorists inside our capitol, and i'm going to prove it on my trial. >> who were the domestic terrorists? >> our congress. our congress that has been stealing elections for a very long time. our country has been under admiralty loss since 1871. >> what should the punishment be? >> execution for being traitors. that's what our constitution

demands. our constitution demands that traitors in our nation are executed. and that's what should happen to each and every person that hijacked the voice of we the people. >> is that something that you see actually happening? >> yes. >> that's trump's wonderful woman. let's not forget that trump has also claimed he might pardon those charged in the insurrection if he reclaims the pretty. even went so far as to record a song with some of the insurrectionists still incarcerated awaiting trial. that's now being used as part of his campaign events. most republicans remain silent about trump's continued adoration for this group, recently ousted republican congresswoman liz cheney tweeted this warning to her former colleagues. trump is embracing a j-6 defendant who called for the execution of members of congress. to elected republicans who have endorsed him, you are endorsing his conduct on january 6th and every day since. the only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men

to do nothing. joining me now is congressman eric swalwell of california, a member of the house judiciary and homeland security committees, and harry lipman, senior legal affairs columnist for the los angeles times and host of the talking feds podcast. congressman, i will start with you. your reaction to donald trump literally embracing a qanon supporting insurrectionist who wanted people like yourself to be executed. >> joy, these are the foot soldiers of maga nation, and they're doing exactly what donald trump, tucker carlson, and the maga nation want them to do, which is carry out violence in their name. they try and be cute about it by saying stand back, stand by. but in all of their signaling, they are telegraphing that they want violence because they refuse to condemn the violence. and so the sedition charge here against the proud boys leader is likely, and i'll leave it to the

jury, is likely to stick because the aim of the violence they carried out was to try to overthrow the government that was counting the votes. so joy, you know, it's also as we step back and look at accountability for january 6th, you know, the department of justice can play their part, but if the speaker of the house, kevin mccarthy, is going to continue to meet with january 6th -- he met with ashli babbitt's family recently, we just learned today, and allowed his members go to the january 6th jail, that's just a green light for more violence to be carried out in the name of maga nation. >> seems so. harry lipman, let's go to this trial. i wonder if it surprised you that they have not reached a verdict as yet and they are going to have to continue deliberating. what does that tell you as a former prosecutor? >> i would say not a lot yet. so it's been two days after a trial of some four months with five defendants, nine different

charges. i think any jury that's carefully sifting through the individual charges would have taken exact -- about this amount of time at a minimum. the congressman has been a prosecutor, and he would probably concur. three days, four days, that seems normal. you start to really bite your nails at the five or six-day mark. i don't think this is anything unusual or surprising so far. >> congressman, it sound like you were agreeing. >> yeah. again, very rarely would they come back so swiftly, but that's 45 different counts, if you break it out with five defendants and nine charges. and a diligent responsible jury will give every defendant for each charge, you know, the benefit of the doubt, which is that the state has to prove its case beyond a reasonable doubt. that takes time. so not much you can read into here. i would be interested to go what types of questions are coming back from the jury, if any at all. again, this seems pretty

standard. >> harry, let me go back to you on this. what we do know is these are some of the texts we saw going from oath keepers who were connected to other far right groups, the three percenters and others. so kelly megs who was the leader of the florida chapter of the oath keepers which is one of the other main groups started reaching out to allies and other far right organizations. they sought to create what prosecutors called an alliance. he told a member of the three percenters he made contact with the proud boys and called them a force multiplier. there's video here that shows enrique tarrio, a documentary filmmaker took this video. his is the garage meeting on january 5th. the video included a portion in which you can hear someone saying it's inevitable. it's going to happen. we just have to do it strong and fast. this video includes stewart rhodes, enrico tarrio, a lawyer for the oath keepers, the leader of latinos for trump, which also enrique tarrio used to be a

member of, a man who ran a group called vets for trump. tarrio sent a document saying 1776 returns. and it outlined a january 6th style attack, according to the department of justice, the plan was to occupy a few crucial buildings in washington, d.c. on january 6th, including house and senate office buildings outside the capitol, with as many people as possible to show our politicians we're in charge. we know that several oath keepers were convicted of seditious conspiracy. do their convictions tell us anything about this trial since they were working so closely together? >> well, it's a really interesting and important point. and there's this amoeba like quality of these groups, even the woman that trump embraced, she's no longer qanon. she's got a new group. we see this in the international realm as well, where it's very hard for the government to kind of keep up, because a trial is a snapshot of criminality, when it happened. the theory here of the government, and seditious

conspiracy is always a hard charge to prove, is that what the proud boys were and wanted to be was the spear going forward because their numbers wouldn't permit the attack on their own, so they did need to combine, including with people who just got caught up in the moment. so yes, that garage video, i found, really alarming, specifically not just for the charges themselves and january 6th, but for what it portends of the continuing kind of evolution and new emergence of groups in different forms. >> right, and you know, congressman, the only group that was called out specifically by trump, and he was asked to condemn far right groups, and condemn white nationalist groups. the proud boys were named. he said stand back, stand by. we know there was an immediate response. they changed their logo to add stand back, stand by. they responded to him on social media, that that interaction wasn't direct, but they directly felt he was talking to them. as you look at it, both as a

member of congress and also as a former prosecutor, does that tell you that it would be very difficult to convict oath keepers for seditious conspiracy but not the group that was literally told to stand back and stand by? >> again, joy, i'll leave it to the jury. this is their job. but it looks like they may have worn different colors that day, but they were all essentially on the same team. and they had the same charge. to the larger picture here, i do believe that what the american people are looking at, they're grateful that the department of justice continues to aggressively prosecute these cases, but january 6th and who was responsible, i would put it in two camps. you had the hustle and the muscle. and the muscle are the proud boys, the oath keepers, the groups that went in there, committed to carrying out violence. they have been aggressively prosecuted. the country now, though, is

asking, when is the hustle going to be responsible? the hustle is donald trump, rudy giuliani, the people who spun up incited, inspired, and aimed the proud boys and the oath keepers at the capitol. i think for complete justice to happen, the hustle and the muscle need to be completely held accountable. >> which brings me back to you, harry, because we know mike pence has now finally has submitted to questions before the grand jury, before jack smith's grand jury. it does seem, you know, he was the person that the proud boys and oath keepers and three percenter were directing their force at, trying to push him to do a very specific thing and take the election for donald trump. what does his questioning tell you about the state of jack smith's investigation given that, right, all of the grunts are facing prosecution, but donald trump so far has walked away and is out campaigning like nothing has happened? >> first, the fact of it, talk about law without fear or favor.

you know, sometimes these events are so close, it's hard to appreciate. it's kind of breathtaking, the vice president of the united states went to the grand jury to testify against the president he served in a criminal investigation. and by the way, smith did it, he didn't even wait for trump to try to go to the supreme court. just as soon as it happened, he was yanked the next morning into the grand jury. that's one. two, it was a whole day of testimony. we know some of the things that are vivid and do a lot for smith in terms of the conversations we heard about, especially the vicious one of january 6th itself, but they were talking. they were having weekly lunches from the time of the election, and there could be a lot more there. finally, it's very important that he did it just to lock pence in. it almost doesn't matter if pence was kind of bobbing and weaving, because it says he wants that testimony in the canon. that to me says, look, there are little pieces to tie up, but

we're very near the end of the day if you're bringing the vice president in. that is not a preliminary move. i think it says that at least one, and there are a cluster of them, january 6th prosecutions, really about ready to come to market. >> as the great rachel maddow would say, watch this space. thank you both very much. up next on "the reidout," supreme court in crisis. questions about the court's credibility and ethical standards continue to pile up, as chief justice john roberts refuses to testify before congress. "the reidout" continues after this. lomita feed is 101 years old this year and counting. i'm bill lockwood, current caretaker and owner. when covid hit, we had some challenges like a lot of businesses did. i heard about the payroll tax refund, it allowed us to keep the amount of people that we needed and the people that have been here taking care of us. see if your business may qualify.

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the drip drip drip of supreme court scandal continues. let's just tick off the controversies, shall we? remember when justice clarence thomas said his billionaire close friend the nazi memorabilia collector had no business before the supreme court? well, according to bloomberg news, surprise, that's not true. the supreme court did in fact review at least one matter involving a crow linked firm. justice thomas did not recuse himself from the 2004 appeals case. then we have justice neil gorsuch, who according to politico, sold a property he owned to the head of a major law firm with business before the supreme court. what's the story about scotus disgrace without a mention of brett kavanaugh?

a damning new report by the guardian says serious omissions were swept under the rug in the republican led senate investigation that claimed to exonerate kavanaugh of accusations he sexually assaulted christine blasey ford as well as potential misconduct against other women decades ago. the 2018 investigation prominently claimed to debunk the allegations of deborah ramirez who said kavanaugh exposed himself to her at a party, saying it was a case of mistaken identity. turns out the mistaken identity claim was sent to the judiciary committee by an attorney named joseph smith, according to a nonredacted copy of a 2018 email obtained by the guardian. smith who is also a member of the federalist society, wrote in that email that he was in a class behind kavanaugh and believed ramirez was mistaken in identifying kavanaugh. instead, smith said it was a fellow class mate named jack maxi who was a member of kavanaugh's fraternity.

but in an interview with the guardian, they confirmed he was still a senior in high school at the time of the alleged incident, and said he had never been contacted by any of the republican staffers who were conducting the investigation. joining me now, senator mazie hirono of hawaii, a member of the senate judiciary committee. senator, it seems to me from the very beginning, brett kavanaugh's tenure on the court, his secession to the court has been questionable. because i don't think anyone who paid attention thought there was a thorough investigation of christine blasey ford and other women's allegations. with this new information, plus all the other scandals, should there and will there be a specific investigation into misconduct, potential misconduct by kavanaugh? >> well, with regard to justin kavanaugh, it was very contentious as you know, and the fbi so-called second investigation we concluded, i did, it was totally inadequate

because what you're saying, they did not interview all of the winces including, by the way, dr. ford, so going forward, my focus, and that of the committee at this point, is to require that the supreme court itself have some procedures for when there's misconduct within the court and that's part of the bill that would require stronger recusal requirements for the justices as well as requiring them to adopt a code of ethics. there is a bill that would require them to do those things and that is the hearing the supreme court justice roberts has declined to come and join us at. however, joy, we are going to go forward because this is important. disclosure is important, and making sure that the supreme court is held to the highest standards, they should at least have a code of ethics that all the other judicial judges have. it's really totally unacceptable that the supreme court seems to

think that they don't have to abide by these requirements. >> but the question, i mean, the senate judiciary committee has an independent authority to investigate. they are under the purview of the judiciary committee, and justice roberts raised separation of powers questions and said he wouldn't come in. however, we still don't know who paid off $700,000 in brett kavanaugh's magically disappearing debts. we still don't know the full extent of the crow relationship financially with clarence thomas. we still don't know the extent to which clarence thomas' wife has been involved in insurrection and other political endeavors. we still don't know about justice roberts' wife, who apparently took in $10 million in fees as a head hunter in connection -- in an elite law firm, according to whistleblower documents. and then there's also gorsuch, they're selling and buying properties from people with business before the court. they are acting like a little

tin pot elite that can do whatever they want. they have no ethical boundaries and yet they're whining and complaining including alito, that no one trusts them and no one likes them. shouldn't the senate judiciary committee investigate them specifically for their misconduct? not just to get a new ethics rule, but their misconduct? potential i should say. >> whether or not we're going to go down that road as we are proceeding to require them to have a code of ethics, whether or not the committee wants do the kinds of investigation, i frankly don't know because what we want is for them to at least have a code of ethics so these kinds of behaviors, these kinds of deals are at least disclosed to the american public, and i think what that leads to is a desire for court reform. and that we do not have a balanced court. we have a majority that is extremist. and my hope is that we will begin to really push for, for example, increasing the number

of justices on the court, and all the other things that i think would change the way this court operates. >> i'm sorry. finish your sents. >> there are different ways we can proceed. i have been wanting to get to court reform for quite a few years now. and i think all of the drip, drip, drip you're talking about means that i think there will be growing support for the kinds of changes that will reform the way this court operates. and that's where i'm going. >> thank you, senator mazie hirono. always appreciate you being here. joining me now, let's bring in ellie mistal, justice correspondent for the nation. i could do seven more minutes of potential ethical scandals. the conduct by clarence thomas could be criminal. the conduct by kavanaugh back during that time could be -- could have been criminal. the fbi did a pretend investigation of him. he's sitting on the court judging whether we can have the right over our own bodies and he might have misused the bodies of women. to me, they seem completely out

of the bounds of ethics, and they don't care. >> and hirono just said something that i think is a problem with the democratic party's response to this entire ethical catastrophe. she said it, like, we're hoping the supreme court adopts for itself a code of ethics. why are we leaving it up to them? what more does the supreme court have to do to prove that it is incapable of policing itself? at this point, we're in a world where the supreme court is like, oh, we can totally police. we saw a mouse in our house and we caught it. no, you idiot. if you saw the mouse, that means you have ten in the walls and you need to burn it with fire. okay. it's time to send in the cats. it's time to send in the owls. it's time to send in independent oversight over the supreme court that the supreme court does not have a choice with. so the thing i wanted senator hirono to say, that i want senator durbin to say, that. >> want anybody in congress to say is to use congress'

congressional authority over the power of the purse to bring these justices to heel. it is congress that controls supreme court funding. now, we have seen because of some of the drip drip drip of scandals that you mentioned, joy, we have seen that these nine people are probably able to live without their government salaries, right? between their land deals and book deals and their laundering money through their spouses, they probably don't need their government salaries, but i bet they like having a courthouse. i bet they like having clerks. i bet they like having access. i know they like having taxpayer funded security details. if congress starts taking those away, if congress puts the stick to these people and starts taking away some of their perks and some of their privileges, then i bet you the supreme court would see the virtue in submitting to independent ethics oversight. it is that or the highway. this ridiculousness of supreme court should police itself has

already been proven to be false and unable for these justices to do. >> well, the other branch of government that could step in is of course the executive branch, namely the justice department. the conduct by clarence thomas is potentially criminal. i have heard not a peep and not a whit of a chance that he might be investigated for that misconduct. it is starting to feel like these nine people, and it's really six of them who have been doing just the strangest things or at least four or five of them, are above the law. if the justice department won't do and it congress won't, it means they are above the law, right? >> i do not know what chris wray has to not do to get fired. i don't know what other level of incompetence we need to see from fbi director christopher wray for him to lose his job. he's the one who botched and i would argue covered up the brett kavanaugh investigation. he is the one who had the opportunity to hear all of the

senatorial complaints. he was one who went with it was somebody else's exposed jen atail yeah. he's the one who believed that. nobody can answer that question for me. absolutely, the justice department which chris wray works for, needs to get involved and at least figure out how they completely messed up an investigation into brett kavanaugh. they need to do something about investigating clarence thomas. they need to do something, and they won't. and the thing that really gets under -- in case you haven't figured it out, the thing that gets under my skin is they won't tell me why. they won't tell me why they won't do this. in 2018, speaking of brett kavanaugh, when the democrats were running to blue wave the house, nancy pelosi promised me that there would be a real investigation into the brett kavanaugh allegations. and that never happened. and nobody told us why. so like, at some point, you have to, like, understand that these people, yes, they're operating above the law, because nobody in

law enforcement tries to stop them. they should at least try to stop them. >> yeah. indeed. i think you're going to get a lot of amens for that. having two of nine credibly accused potential sexual assaulters judge whether women can control their own bodies is a scandal in and of itself, to say nothing of all the financial scandals. ellie mistal, thank you very much. still ahead, corporations for peerjs except in florida, where ron desantis' ongoing feud with disney is running afoul of free speech issues. but his cleft condition didn't define him. he's playful, smart, loving. pedro is like any child you know and love. children like pedro need your help. thousands of children are born with cleft conditions and have no access to surgery. with your support, operation smile can heal them.

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while ron desantis has spent the week galavanting overseas as part of his pre-presidential run, back home in florida, he's in hot water, facing a blistering lawsuit from disney. the entertainment giant slammed the governor for taking away their self-governing privileges, calling it a targeted campaign of government retaliation orchestrated at every step by governor desantis as punishment for disney's protected speech. desantis brushed off these claims yesterday while in jerusalem. >> they're upset because they're actually having to live by the same rules as everybody else. they don't want to have to pay the same taxes as everybody else, and they want to be able to control things without proper oversight, where every other

floridian has to have this type of oversight. all florida businesses. so it's -- it's a little bit much to be complaining utthat. i don't think the suit has merit. i think it's political. >> which is quite the argument especially since desantis has previously bragged that the whole reason he started a war with mickey mouse in the first place was because the company spoke out against his don't say gay law. here's what he said right before he signed the measure revoking disney's special governing status last year. take a listen. >> incredibly, they say we are going to work to repeal parents' rights in florida. i'm thinking to myself, you're a corporation based in burbank, california. and you're going to marshal your economic might to attack the parents of my state? we view that as a provocation. and we're going to fight back against that. >> seems pretty cut and dry nee. desantis' war against free speech doesn't end there. new reporting says florida officials are threatening to revoke the teaching license of a

tallahassee school superintendent has also criticized desantis. one must not question the diminutive dear leader. joining me is juanita tolliver, and charlie sykes, editor at large of the bulwark and msnbc contributor. it appears the one rule in florida is that you must not ever disagree with desantis. >> bow down and bow down publicly is what he wants. and i feel like every day he's stepping further and further into that moniker of fascist desantis. he's showing all these authoritarian behaviors but what's sickening about the tallahassee elected official is that he has his minions out there monitoring individuals, monitoring local elected officialsering reporting back, because this is all based on one person reporting from an extremist groups known as moms for liberty. >> basically, charlie, he's tricing to force not just companies but individuals to do exactly what he says, when he says it, or he will use the government to punish you.

that's literally a violation of the first amendment. let me quote the great ted boutros, a brilliant attorney, who said disney has put together a powerful complaint. disney's first amendment arguments are extremely strong. desantis has admitted, indeed bragged about retaliating against disney. that is a classic first amendment violation. i didn't go to law school, but that sound pretty cut and dry to me. >> you know, ron desantis wanted a fight with disney. now he's got one. this has really become a political quagmire. this is one of those issues that makes my head explode because it's not just bad on constitutional law. it's just terrible politics. if you wrote a screen play of a politician who wanted to be a bully and picking the wrong target, it would be about somebody to say let's go after the happiest place on earth. let's launch this campaign of retaliation against mickey mouse, of all people. but that lawsuit is a real problem for him because he has

been living very much online and he's about to find out that the kind of things that get people like christopher ruffo and his twitter minions excited is not going to play the same way in a federal court, especially when there are so many quotes, and there are so many sound bites like the one you played where he basically says, yes, this is what i am doing. i'm retaliating against you for things that you said. for your criticism of me. it's right there. it's not going to go well for him at all. >> and all i can picture is mickey mouse going, enough. enough, ron desantis. i've had enough, and winning. let's move on because florida is not -- florida is not just the unhappiest place on earth for teachers and anybody who is not desantis' toady. it's the unhappiest place on earth for dwyane wade. take a listen. >> that's another reason why i don't live in the state. a lot of people don't know that.

i have to make decisions for my family. not just personal individual decisions. obviously, the taxes are great, having wade county is great, but my family would not be accepted or feel comfortable there. so that's one of the reasons why i don't live there. >> juanita, the governor, governor desantis' anti-gay, anti-trans policies drove dwyane wade out of wade county. >> he is florida. he's beloved, and he loves the community, and they love him back. the reality is, he knows he has to protect zion. he has to protect his daughter. so prioritizing her needs as a trans youth who might want to seek gender affirming care, for example, which is banned in florida, who might want to talk about her gender identity in school which is banned in florida, is the right move. but sadly, that's not a move a lot of parents can make. not just in florida. i'm thinking about texas, montana, all the other states where these anti-trans bills are being passed which we know will cause irreparable damage and harm.

>> you know, charlie, i don't understand the politics of it. i'll be honest. as somebody who works in campaigns for a hot minute, being cruel and driving dwyane wade out of your state, and maybe triggering him to campaign against you in a presidential election, marjorie taylor greene going after randi weingarten and saying she's not a real mom because she's a stepmom and because she's lgbtq, how is that a good argument? michael steele destroyed her today, saying oh, sorry, but jesus' daddy was also a stepparent. >> come on. >> to me, i don't understand who this appeals to other than mean trolls who are already going to vote for you. >> so this is what you get for trapping yourself in your own hermetically sealed idealogical bubble. you're talking to yourself. you are listening to your own echo chamber because this plays within that narrow world and everybody on the outside is saying what are you saying? why is marjorie taylor greene questioning motherhood of others? they have gone out of the habit of thinking how to persuade

normal americans, and it's all about throwing red meat. hitting the buttons, but with ron desantis, he's hit the trifecta here. i think he's going to lose in court. i think the fight with disney is politically damaging. and then the dwyane wade episode also reminds us of the possible economic fallout from this. all disney or any other major company has to do is say, we're considering moving some of our thousands of dollars and tens of millions of, actually billions of dollars in economic impact out of the state of florida. ron desantis is dead. and this is something that had he thought this through, if he was a chess player, he might have thought, if you take on one of the most popular corporations in america who happens to be one of the economic engines of your state and one of your state's biggest employers, bad things are going to happen in court, in the court of public opinion, and possibly economically. and we're seeing that playing out right now. >> it feels like they're pushing

women away everywhere, pushing -- beating up teachers, beating up moms beating up disney, beating up cruise companies. who are they attracting, juanita? >> definitely not women, definitely not young people, definitely not lgbtq people, definitely not black people. the attacks have hit across demographics, and i think the reality is, though, desantis isn't going to let up. he's going to double down on this because he's trying to win a primary. and this is the red meat you and charlie just described, they want more of. disney is his calling card. win or lose that case. that's what gave him a national brand and recognition and what he's going to continue to fund-raise off of. >> you can't outtrump trump. nobody is going to buy a fake version when the real version is also running. thank you both very much. coming up, actor and comedian john leguizamo joins me to talk about his new msnbc series. stay right there.

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how to grow more vibrant flowers: step one: feed them with miracle-gro shake 'n feed. that's it. miracle-gro. all you need to know to grow. in msnbc's new six-part series leguizamo does america, actor, comedian, and activist john leguizamo takes viewers on a journey of america's rich latino heritage with each episode focusing on a different location. last week, we tackled politics

in florida with an activist, carmen. >> after the year 2000, support for democratic presidential candidates in miami steadily increased. but in 2020, that support took a nose dive. so what is really going on here? is this a permanent shift to the right or will democrats regain the success they once had. >> why do you think, obama was electric, galvanizing? >> he came down here and he spoke. >> he came down here. >> yes, and he wasn't afraid to talk to people. >> that's the secret sauce, the mojo. >> it's listening. >> the aoc beto method of knock on latino people's doors, come to their hometown, talk about their issues and you win us over. >> for this week's episode, premiering sunday, leguizamo comes to washington, d.c. to explore latino representation in american government right here in the u.s. capital. joining me is john leguizamo. it's so exciting you're here. >> thank you for having me. >> i was fan girling out earlier

today. let me talk about this. i used to live in momy, as i think i told you, and i also used to live in denver, colorado. to me, these were such different latino communities. what are the commonalities, what are the differences? miami is such a specific culture. >> what's interesting to me is i feel like there's this myth that latin people are fighting against each other in different groups. i don't believe that exists. we have differences, but the similarities are much bigger. that's what i found going through the show across the country. can felt like the commonality of language, religion, culture, similar foods, similar music. we all love each other's music. that's where we all get down. and i think that brings commonality. yeah, of course, you have differences.

>> finally, want what we need, come talk to us not gunderson, will flip your way. >> let me play one thing here, this is cuban american actor and writer, carmen fillet us talking about the thing that when i was in south florida this we heard a lot of, from a lot of people. the fear of socialism, take a listen. >> how can we make your life, and this country, and your transition from a socialist government to a democratic government, how do we make that easier? i think that's where we fail, because we don't talk to people, because we are afraid we're gonna make old communist, and socialist the minute we knock on the door. if we talk to them, we've got them. >> is there an issue with a lot of people in the political side not understanding where people coming from influenza politics,

right? people come from cuba, people come from venezuela -- >> and colombians now are easily triggered, because of what's happening in venezuela, their trigger weather word socialism as well. so the republicans knew, when trump was running for office, that's how they got florida. there was a spanish radio station, thrown a whatsapp in arizona, and in florida, and then use the trigger to socialism, communism, authoritarianism. but you have to go in there, and educate them, that you're not talking, you're not changing everything of socialism. you are democratic president who is democratic values, and you just try to get people fed, and get people services, that's it. you've got to be careful. >> i think for democrats on the democratic side there is a sort of constant trying, people say they're trying to pander, people saying they're trying to relate to the left handed community, and say things like latin ex-. do people that you know, do they like the term latin ex-, or that like please stop?

>> people are getting triggered by latinx. i don't even know why? young people, old people don't want to change anything. i like the way everything is, leave me alone, don't touch it! don't put your exxon things. i love latinx, i think it sounds like a superhero, it is inclusive, it does not sound misogynists or keeping women out, it's also in cuba lgbtq+, all of it all. >> where we learn about d.c., because this is what latina community i think people don't know much about? >> i always thought it was a large puerto rican spot, one of my large touring spots, large puerto rican population. i didn't know there was a huge el salvador, in central american population. huge. we went to the neighborhood, i did not realize there were huge riots here in the 70s, because a police brutality against latin ex-, they are used again, latinx get over it. and they had to fight for respect from the police, and you have latin policemen so they could talk to people.

so, yeah i did notice about d.c., and they have a amazing restaurant cielo, that michelin star restaurant. the light going on going on in d.c., that's beautiful latin x, gallup theater that make space for immigrants illiberal being bullied at school, feel less than, here they flower, they are nurtured. there are beautiful things going on. >> yamazaki x too because it gives me wakanda forever, you know bringing people together. john leguizamo, you're great. >> you are amazing. >> be sure to catch the new episode of leguizamo does america sunday, 10 pm eastern right here on msnbc, and streaming on peacock. it is really good, i -- >> i'm glad they did it. >> coming up. >> a long long time ago, [applause] some saying touch me deep inside, the day the music died.

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the week my friends, which means it is time to play our favorite game, who won the week? and today, i am seizing control of the entire segment, and declaring my tie, two who won the wee contestants, and they both want to be equally. my first who won the week, three african american quarterback, three black quarterbacks in nfl history, drafted in the first round of the nfl draft, bryce young drafted number one by the carolina panthers, the heisman

trophy winner out of alabama. c.j. stroud, dropped about the houston texans out of ohio state. and anthony richardson, who was drafted number four, by the indianapolis colts, from the university of florida. three black quarterbacks, the nfl's come quite a long way. but my other who won the week is, the great jamie raskin. he has been on the show, he is a great guy, here is heroic, and he has also been heroically battling cancer. look at this, look at this video. he got the ringing bell that shows that he has completed his chemotherapy for diffuse large b cell lymphoma, there he is. he has ring the bell at med star, georgetown university hospitals lumbar comprehensive center. all the best of the great jamie raskin, and to everybody at that hospital, and that is tonight's read out. all in with chris hayes starts right now,. >> tonight