it's all about timing, right? at the end of the day, when it comes to delivering these punchlines. >> i'm sure he does, i don't know that for sure, but i'm sure with any other speeches we see him do, this is rehearsed for sometime now. i know that from past events that we've seen, usually these jokes are sort of collected over the year since the last white house correspondents dinner. so expect not just in the recent timeframe, but expects on these jokes to have references that go back a couple months. >> you wonder when you're in the room, which journalist is going to be the target of some of the presidents, and of course the host jokes? we'll have to wait and see. thank you, by the way, remind our coverage of the white house correspondents dinner begins tonight at 8 pm eastern right here on msnbc, streaming on peacock as well. you don't wanna miss that. that wraps up for me everybody, i'm yasmin, i'll be back in the chair tomorrow 2 pm eastern from new york. simone starts right now.

awe >> greetings everyone, you're watching simone. there's a lot of talk on capitol hill about how speaker kevin mccarthy's so-called been win -- but i have to ask, how can it be a win if the country is still at risk of defaulting on its own debt? congressman -- is here to weigh in on this and much more. former vice president mike pence testifying before a federal grand jury this week as part of the special counsel investigation into donald trump's efforts to overturn the 2020 election results. a political panel may weigh in. plus, my conversation with the headliner of tonight's white house correspondents dinner, roy wood junior. is he ready for the marathon? i'm simone sanders, and i have something to say.

will, seasonal allergies have a whole -- and house republicans are holding your pocketbook hostage. for just over a month before the united states is expected to be offered its loans, congressman passed a debt ceiling increase in order to avoid economic calamity. on wednesday, the house -- that increases the debt limit, but only if it includes crippling spending cuts. -- limit, save, grow act slashes discretionary 2024 spending down to 2022 levels. it restricts the access of low income families to food and medical care. these drastic cuts, which strain resources across several government agencies. let me dig into one for, you the department of homeland security. -- a spokesperson for the agency said the decrease would result in up to 24 -- republicans claim the border

will force a reduction in the departments ability to prevent drugs from entering the country, would reduce federal assistance for disaster preparedness at every level, and slash tsa jobs. leading to two-hour wait times at airports across the country. americans are just going to -- and it's just one agency. the white house is calling a congress to pass an unconditional debt limit increase, and pursue spending cuts to the normal budgetary process. but republicans insist that is in fact not an option for them. so what happens if republicans blocked the government from paying back money we've already spent for the first time in our history? well, a 2021 analysis from -- found it would cost the united states up to 6 million jobs and whiteout up to 50 trillion -- yes trillion with t dollars -- that is what republicans are commanding. submit to their spending cuts targeting the poorest in her country, and straining our most

vital agencies. it will send our economic health to helena handbasket. -- cold them out for it in a press conference on friday. take a listen. >> house democrats, worked with former president trump three times to make sure we have avoided a default and raised the debt ceiling. without partisanship, without showmanship, without gamesmanship, and that's what the extreme maga republicans should be doing right now. president biden has reduced the budget, house republicans produced a ransom note. >> again, this bill passed the house by the lowest of margins. maybe that's because it's a very clear that the american people just do not want this. recent cbs poll found that 70% of americans want to see this set ceiling raised, and it means defaulting on our

national debts. when it comes to spending, they want to see programs for medicare and medicaid increased, only 26% of -- want to see a decrease in defense. so as i said, this bill is a down in the democratic senate, but what it represents, republicans eagerness if you will to hold hostage the credit of the united states of america? that is still very much alive. joining me now is democratic congresswoman out of washington and senior -- of the democratic caucus -- will come to you ma'am, thank you for being here. this bill, it won't make it through the senate, the white house is still calling for a clean debt ceiling raise. my question is, what happens now? >> well simone, it's good to see you, and i think you really went through critical pieces of this ridiculous situation that we found ourselves in, which is that republicans are being incredibly hypocritical when

they are talking about throwing our economy into chaos. because, remember. they passed a clean debt ceiling under trump three times as majority leader jeffries said, and also, when they were in power, the increase the deficit by two trillion dollars, with their republican tax scam in 2017. by the way, 50% of those tax cuts went to the top 5% of people. so to suddenly say that oh, we want to watch spending, their first bill this congress, simone, was to strip the iris of agents who are going to go after wealthy tax cheats and bring in more revenue and reduce the deficit. what happens now is and they're going to push this with gamesmanship, threaten throwing the economy into a recession, 7 million people could lose jobs, you've already talked about the cuts that we would see to dhs, but what about the cuts to social security? to medicare? two veterans affairs? all of these things are going

to get cut. until they realize that we are not going to go along with that, we are not going to listen to hostage takers, we are going to hold our position and at the end of it, you're going to have to pass a clean debt ceiling. >> so congresswoman, folks out there might be forgotten but i did not that in the a 118th congress, this rules package allows members to actually force a bill passed committee and onto the floor with something that's called a discharge petition if it signed by the majority of members. so is that how a clean debt ceiling bill comes to the floor? is that a feasible path forward? >> that is absolutely a path, and i think it's going to rely, obviously, on a handful of responsible republicans. it's also going to rely on the senate. republicans in the senate are going to have to speak to their house colleagues, and tell them that they are not willing to throw the economy into a recession, we are not going to

default on our debts. so the debt ceiling discharge position could be one option, but also, republicans could just get reasonable and start to respond to their constituents who don't want these cuts either. >> let's talk about the possibility of defaulting, because i think people need to understand. let's take some data from third way, in your state of washington, according to the third wave a think tank, more than 70,000 people would lose their jobs. the average mortgage would increase by more than $170, 000, and more than 868,000 households could miss their social security check. that is a lot of folks, congresswoman, so what are you telling your constituents about the stakes here, and how you're navigating this dilemma? >> the stakes are enormous. i mean, under the biden administration, we brought unemployment down to the lowest level in over half a century. we created 10 million new jobs. republicans are going to throw us back into a recession. people are going to lose their

jobs, they're not going to be able to get their social security payments, small businesses are not going to be able to get loans, childcare is not going to be available, because childcare workers are not going to get paid. so my constituents are saying to me, what's wrong with these republicans, because this is going to affect their own constituents. and like you said in your opening simone, it's important that people understand. this is not the time to negotiate a budget. we have a time to negotiate a budget. that comes with the appropriations process. this is about stuff that we already agreed to, republicans couldn't get their extreme budget through, and that's why they're trying to hold his hostage now. this is just about paying our bills, and then once we do that, we can go into a process of negotiating about ship. >> is this current conversation, or dilemma if you will, as it relates to the debt ceiling, is it putting the budget negotiations in jeopardy? because the 2024 budget is supposed to be passed by congress, and then signed by

the president no later than october 1st, if you're trying to avoid a government shutdown. >> right. it does put everything into jeopardy, because the longer this goes on, the last time we have to work on the rest of the things that we need to do. i think what republicans are going to end up doing is passing some sort of a continuing resolution for the budget, i've never liked that on the democratic side or the republican side, i think we should get these budgets done on time and take away the uncertainty for our agencies and for the american people. but, i think that's what they're going to end up doing. what they're trying to do is complete these two things. say that oh, we're being reasonable. we're giving you a proposal. no. they're giving us a proposal on the budget, which is fine. they should do that. and we're happy to talk about that. but the debt ceiling, we have raised it dozens of times. democrats have done under republican presidents, republicans have done it under democratic presidents, it is an obligation, a constitutional obligation of our country to pay our bills. and by the way, it just doesn't throw the american economy into

chaos, it throws the world are coming into chaos, if america defaults in our bill. this is the default on america bill that they passed, it is absolutely atrocious, and it shows that they can't govern. >> we will be monitoring these debt ceiling negotiations and waiting with baited breath to see how at the budget conversations shake out. congresswoman, i want to move to abortion rights. because, this is something at the forefront of the minds of folks out there in this country. and the reality is that there are a lot of republican colleagues and congress who actually support a national abortion ban. can you just break this down for us? because, i think americans should be concerned about the prospect of a national abortion ban or just restrictions potentially coming out of the house of representatives. but you served there every day. what i agree says you with you. ? they have had dozens and dozens of their members voting for a national abortion ban.

many senators have introduced and telegraph that they want a national abortion ban. you are seeing it in states across the country, with republican legislatures, passing, essentially, what amounts to abortion bans in their state. even though their constituents do not want that and that's the thing, here symone, republican, independent and democratic people cross this country want us to keep abortions safe and legal. it even gone to the ballot as you know. and republican states. people have preserved the right to abortion, but now, legislatures are continuing to try to turn it back. i think that we are in a grave crisis, i never thought that my daughter would have fewer rights than i did. the idea that we are going to, and you know, symone, as black and brown, indigenous, poor women across this country, that are going to be particularly disproportionately burdened.

if, you know, i'm glad that the supreme court kept mifepristone available, but i don't know for how long that is. i think we have to be very clear, this is an attempt, by republicans, to strip away our economic freedom. this is about freedom. it's about family. it's about being able to decide when we had want to have a family, and take care of our families. and it's fundamentally about our freedoms. and republicans are against all of that. >> congresswoman, i continue to ask, where are the bills that regulate what men can do with their bodies? thank you for your time today, ma'am, very good to see you. >> thank you, symone. >> folks, special counsel jack smith, finally got former vice president, mike pence, under oath, his investigation into donald trump in january 6th. my all-star political panel joins me next, in studio, to talk about just how big of a deal that is. later, on my one-on-one chat

with daily correspondent host of tonight's white house correspondents dinner, roy wood junior. first, my colleague, jessica layton is here with an update on a devastating new story that we're following, jessica? >> hi, simone, thank, you we are following some breaking news. right now, the hunt is on for the latest mass shooter in america. this is the man police say opened fire late last night, and his neighbors home, in cleveland, texas. that's about 45 miles northeast of houston. he killed five people, including an eight-year-old child. authorities say, 38-year-old -- used an ar-style rifle in that attack, police believe the shooter began after a neighbor asked the suspect to stop firing a gun on his property because there was a baby trying to sleep. all the victims were from honduras, two women who were killed were found lying over some children who survived. three young survivors were taken to hospital, it still is unclear if they were shot. we will bring you updates as we get them, here at nbc, i'm jessica layton, more symone,

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former vice president mike pence testified before a grand jury, investigating efforts to overturn the 2020 election. it's the first time in modern history that a vice president has given testimony in a criminal investigation about the president he once served, donald trump. pence spent seven hours before the grand jury thursday, as part of the special counsel's investigation into donald trump's role in the attack on the capitol. and his efforts to stop the peaceful transition of power. here with me, at the green table, to discuss is the former president of latino victory project, -- he's also former senior adviser to the biden campaign. and an msnbc political analyst. senior politics reporter for axios, eugene scott is also here, republican strategist, sarah chamberlain. greetings to you all, thank you for coming in.

sir, let me start with you. do republicans out there reaching out to voters, did they care that former vice president pence testified this week? >> they sure do. they think it's long coming here, they're curious to see what he has to stay. absolutely, they do. overwhelmingly. >> eugene, what is the impact of this potential testimony, i should note out there for folks at home, we don't know what the former vice president said? is it significant that this is the first time january 6th investigation, the former vice president, did not go before congress? and was not subpoenaed, all we know was in the book. how significant is his testimony? >> well, it depends on what ends up coming out, which to your point, we don't know yet. what it does right now, it reminds people that donald trump was involved in possibly overturning, or trying to overturn, the 2020 election. so, optically, it just doesn't look good for that campaign, if they're trying to remind people that he could be something different from what he was. which hasn't been the argument of the campaign at all.

>> i mean, we'll be waiting to see. it makes me wonder how close jack smith is in his investigation? >> don't you think is very close. >> it feels like. >> but the legal folks have told, me legally eminent could mean a very long time. we will wait to see what develops out of that. i want to turn to the debt ceiling negotiations that are happening in congress. first of all, house republicans, want to pass some debt ceiling legislation to raise the debt ceiling, that bill, as i've discussed, is dead on arrival in the senate. passed a party line vote. i want you to listen to what congressman jim clyburn, he's a national co-chair of the biden harris 2024 campaign. what he said about this particular issue, take a listen. [silence]

the sensible people in the senate will be sitting down, with the white house, they'll hammer out something. and just like the mcconnell and schumer did before, they'll come up with something that makes sense for the american people, makes sense for this white house. and i believe, that's when we'll see the real negotiation. this thing -- he knows that's a joke. they just did something to get it out of the house and he stepped out of the negotiations along with it. >> so, that was congressman clyburn, my colleague this morning, he sounded very optimistic. are you as optimistic as the congressman? >> i want to be as optimistic as he is, if he's wrong, a and we go off a cliff, economically, we could be in deep trouble. early on your show, you had --

on, she talked about the impact that we would see, we will lose medicaid funding, we would lose opioid funding, we lose 16,000 teachers, republic education system would crash, it's extremely serious. to me, what's most upsetting about this, it took 200 years to accumulate this debt. a quarter of that was added during donald trump's presidency. they raised it three times without any crisis or crying about it. i hope we can get to work and raising it again, quickly. >> sarah, cristobal makes a point of the impact. i tried to lay it out at the top of the show, the impact how the debt ceiling impacts regular folks across the country. i'm wondering if people actually understand that this is -- the debt ceiling at a kitchen table issue for americans. >> they do, the 90 plus members of the public and mainstream partnership are not gonna let this fail. i mean, they're just not going to. i know everyone, on the democratic side, is talking about that. what happened this week was

step one. we have until june. okay, here's two things, especially, for five, but those two issues the republicans will die on the sword with. one of them, covid when it comes back. that should be an easy one for the democrats to accept. you will not see a clean debt ceiling increase, you will see a small tweaks to it to pass. there's no way biden's gonna let this go down, there's no way the republicans will let this go down. everybody understands the importance of it. >> okay, maybe i'm feeling a lot more hopeful for americans after those conversations. i want to talk a little bit 2024, obviously, joe biden, kamala harris, announced their reelection campaign. this week, there are number republicans out there in the campaign trail. nikki haley is one of them. she's a presidential candidate, former u.s. ambassador under president trump, former governor of south carolina. i want you to listen to what she said about president biden's age on fox news, take a listen to this. >> he's announced that is running again in 2024.

i think that we can all be very clear and say, with a matter of fact, if you vote for joe biden, you really are counting on a president harris. because the idea that he wouldn't make it until 86 years old is not something that i think is likely. >> what the former governor just said is that it's not likely that the president of the united states will live. she saying that joe biden is going to die, so people are voting for kamala harris. what is the strategy? what are you hearing from folks, eugene, about these comments from the governor? very untoward comments, couldn't believe. it >>,,. ,. ? that watch fox news? that are in south carolina. it's not a wind some strategy to say, to pick apart whether you can he can perform what you

wanted to perform. when many people that you need to support you are close to him in age. >> older voters vote. young people, we vote as well. but not as reliably as seniors. cristobal, what have you heard? what is the tea in the biden harris streets? >> there was some some offense to that comment for sure. you know this better than anybody, both of us campaign closely with the president in the last cycle. he's got extreme vigor, he's always on the run. he runs his staff ragged. he's up before they are. he's prepped better than they are. he's always on the move, it's exhausting to campaign with him. not only are those comments offensive, they're just plain wrong. >> sarah, i'll have a little bit of time left, wow, the governor's comments, i think we can all agree, were offensive they lacked booth. it is something a lot of people are whispering about the fact that the vice presidency, if you will, is also on the ballot in this upcoming election. what is the conversation within the republican circles about the strategy here? >> there would be really nice

to have two top candidates that are not close to eight years old and over 80, that's really what the republicans are talking about, is there some other options out there? really, 80 years old? i love my parents dearly, and there's a lot atrial people, can they really be the president of the united states? >> well, joe biden will be the democratic nominee, i don't know the republicans gonna do, that's what we have a primary. it's election season, y'all. sarah chamberlain, eugene scott, cristobal alex, thank you all very much. all right folks, we have all seen the united states supreme court, and what it can do, with just one single ruling. now, we're also seeing it at the state level. next, we're going to get into how the newly-conservative north carolina supreme court may have just made the democrats path to retaking the house much, much harder 2044. y'all, stay with us. l, stay with us. like a free 5g phone. get started today with verizon business. it's your business. it's your verizon.

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for democracy in north carolina. on friday, the state supreme court reversed a previous decision, and approved a heavily gerrymandered map for republicans. now, last year, republican justices held a 43 majority, and ruled that the redistricting maps drawn by the republican legislature violated the states constitution. but a north carolina, supreme court justices are elected. and elections have consequences. in november, the elections delivered to new republican justices. now, with a 52 majority, the supreme court changed its mind. now it says it has no authority

to act, these new maps mean that in a state with a democratic governor, voters are evenly divided between the parties, republicans will likely control ten of the states 14 seats. instead of voters choosing the representatives, republican lawmakers on north carolina get to choose their voters. joining me now to break this all down, democracy guru himself, michael elias. voting rights attorney of the site for democracy docket. mark, i am concerned. the court came down with this decision on friday, so, now it's like, what, the republican controlled legislature can just scrap the state house, the senate, the congressional district boundaries? and redraw maps however they want? what is going on? >> simone, thank you for having me on. friday was a dark day for the voters and democracy advocates in north carolina. it wasn't just this decision. on the same day, the north carolina supreme court struck down a lower court decision that had restored the rights of formerly in raided individuals,

and effectively, disenfranchised more than 56,000 people in the stroke of a judicial pen. the supreme court of north carolina also reversed a another decision that it had ruled on recently, under the prior composition of the court, and restored a racist voter i.d. law. a law that had been struck down for targeting black voters, was restored. >> mark, this is the same law that the supreme court, the north carolina supreme court, wrote was written with surgical precision to discriminate against black voters, right? >> yeah, this was, you know, you say that elections have consequences. the sad thing about north carolina is, it used to have a very well respected state supreme court. and it state supreme court justices, though elected, were elected on a nonpartisan basis. what happened a few years ago, republicans on the legislature realized that their only chance to undermine this court and its

credibility was to make those elections partisan. so, literally, when you said it has a republican majority, that's because justices in the state supreme court now are required to run in partisan elections. whereas before, they were running a nonpartisan elections. so, it's a very bad development in north carolina. look, we don't have a luxury of wallowing in it. we need to dust ourselves off, pick ourselves up, and continue to fight for democracy in north carolina. as well as the rest of the country. >> so, in north carolina, currently as wechat today, it evenly divided. seven seats for each party. now, these gerrymandered maps, i think they could at least three republican seats in 2024. what are the options for democratic lawmakers, mark, because there are people out there saying, democratic majorities in other states should also take up gerrymandering to protect their

seats? what do you say to that? >> look, here's what i say. there are 17 states in this country where democrats enjoy a trifecta, which means in the country the governor, and both houses of the legislature. every single state in this country, where democrats control the process, they should be reenacting pro democracy, pro voting legislation. that's gonna look differently in every state, i'm glad to see that minnesota just passed another pro voting law. but every democratic state can do better, every democratic state can ensure that black, brown and young voters are not facing obstacles. every state could look at their redistricting laws, and their district, a state like new york, for example, a conservative, republican judge in a rural county struck down a map, and now, you don't have a map in new york that is at all, in any way, shape or form, fair. it doesn't reflect the population of new york, it was drawn by a court that was a hours, by bus, away from new york city.

minority voters were given short trip, in my view. we're in court right now, in new york, to try to give the independent state of redistricting commission, another shot to draw that map. so, we all need to focus on what we can focus -- what we can control or influence. >> so, you are not of the camp that says democrats should go forward and draw partisan lines. rather, do what's good for democracy? >> look, i think that democrats enabling and enforcing and propelling full participation in the electorate is good for democrats. we know that when young voters don't face barriers and vote, they vote democratic. we know that when black voters don't have their vote suppressed, when they're not winning an hour-long lines, hours long lines, we know it's good for democrats. we know that when more people vote, democrats do better. and so, that's where my energy is right now.

the state by state redistricting, i'm happy to talk about, many of the democratic-controlled states have already instituted some type of redistricting reform, that frankly, doesn't allow them to engage in the same partisan gerrymandering that you see republicans do. so, that's not an option in most of the blue states, california has an independent redistricting commission. new york has been rejecting commission. so, a lot of these states, that's just not an option. we can be expanding the electorate, and particularly, making sure that black voters and young voters are not fenced out of the political process. >> marc elias, i am very happy you are on the case out there across the country, thank you for coming in and breaking it down. these are tough days for democracy, but your fired up, and so ready to go. i think that means something. appreciate your time. >> thank you, my friend. >> thank you. coming up, y'all, we have to talk about how republicans continue to defend the jane jurors and tragic new normal

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needed. an abortion. after facing life-threatening pregnancy complications, see, texas passed a six-week abortion ban in 2021. but with the fall of roe v. wade last year, trigger laws when into affairs, allowing nearly all abortions. the ban has exceptions when there's a risk of, what's, called substantial harm to a pregnant woman. however, if doctors violate the law, they could face prison sentences up to 99 years, or hundred thousand dollars in fines and the loss of medical licenses. in the face of these harsh consequences, texas doctors have actually hesitated to give women the care they need. for amanda and the four other women suing the state, this is exactly what happened to them. this morning, amanda detailed the absolute horror she felt, to my colleague, katie phang, learning that she would, quote, inevitably lose her baby waiting three full days to go into septic shock. it's a condition that could've killed her. only then what americas -- what her doctors finally

intervene. because of the scar tissue that i'm amanda has from her sepsis, she might appeal have children at all. now, this isn't what republicans were running on during their campaigns, that's definitely isn't ads they played on television. stories like amanda's or real. stories like amanda's are happening all over our country. and i don't know, maybe republicans either, they don't think, so they don't care. they continue to defend this particular war on women. just listen to this. >> i said i want to save as many babies and help as many moms as possible. that is my goal. the next president must find national consensus. >> for the past 50 years, we've had a culture grow in this nation. a culture that was created by seven men on the roe v. wade court who got it wrong. colleagues can comfort themselves with the company

therein. communist china, iran and north korea. and the national democratic party. >> this is insanity. this is inhumane. this is a war on women. women are dying. where are the laws that determine what men can do with their bodies? i can't think of one. there are none. women are dying, folks. it is happening in realtime, all across this country, regardless of who these women voted for in the last election. we'll be right back. we'll be right back.

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play in continuing our democracy. we have it is hosted by comedian who roast government officials, and our leaders on members of the media, and it's been headlined by folks like richard pryor, john stewart, wanda sykes, cedric the entertainer, stephen colbert. the list goes on. tonight, it is being hosted by my cousin, delicious correspondent, roy wood junior. i recently spoke to him about his preparations, what we can expect from these high stakes on his game tonight, how a week of trump legal developments and major media shakeups affected his script. take a listen. >> half by script got started after monday morning. i had jokes in there about, remember chinese spy balloons? doesn't it feel like 40 years ago now? i was like, nobody one hears know about a spy balloon. the low-key, the trump arrest, when we ever done a new cycle where the trump the trump

arrest, that's what we are screaming for for the whole time he was in office, taken a jail. we finally took him to jail, that thing was on about a week, okay, we have a new scandal, a new trial, a new thing to deal with. i feel like, is it just me, let me ask you a question, or family. >> yeah, you're my actual cousin. >> for real, i get emails from from 23andme. we found your cousin in d.c.. i know that, when delete. do you think fox and cnn plan to fire both of them to on the same day, or did they see one got fired, hit the button on don lemon too. >> another question you should pose to the audience. you did me right your speech. >> yeah, no lie. the correspondents dinner is a state a, in the my my opinion, where we are as a society. >> i've heard you described as a state of the constituency. >> yeah, i'm a voter. i'm not an elected official. i gotta come in here and talk trash to the people that we

voted into office and go, here's where y'all wrong, here's where y'all messed up. you also have to tie that into things that are happening in the immediacy. you know this, it's a full hour news cycle. if that. >> it is constantly changing. >> i'm praying nothing happens between now and tonight. >> you have a couple hours. >> you never know. they might find out clarence thomas took for more vacations. >> roy, i cannot. >> clarence thomas on a yacht like an instagram, case a thought, i don't know if you can. >> we'll see, india. >> who did you talk to in preparation for this. let me just say, it feels like, does the daily show have a secret contract? with the white house correspondents association? or y'all holding one of somebody's child hostage. i say that, because, you are the third daily show correspondent, if you will, in

what the last ten years to host this dinner. >> i mean, for if you want to throw wolf, and she was a contributor, she was a correspondent. it's just, i don't know, between nations and saturday night live, it seems that the press corps gravitate towards. it's an honor, it's also like, i called it almost like a deployment. where you just get summoned. first off, when you get the call for the correspondents dinner, it's not, like him, and david lederman want you to come. it's like, we've seen the eventual movies where nick fury shows over the, and yeah, and it should help us do something. they can get you killed. it's gonna be crazy. but if you do well, it'll be great. >> i spoke with larry wilmore, who's done the event before, house of minaj as well, we're good friends. he gave me a lot of tips. i spoke with trevor a little bit here and there, really, i was waiting until i had a script in a structure in place. until i started reaching out to

the big wigs and the people whose political satirical minds i respect, who i know know how to find the counter punches, the wanda sykes, the chris rock's of the world, the brennan's. those people are the ones that were unlike, between last night in this morning, where i'm like, here is what i'm trying to say. >> throwing things at the walls, seeing what sticks. the host is expected to be edgy, whoever is hosting the dinner, they come in, everybody in that room knows the host is gonna be edgy. i've been at some past dinners where the edge was taken as disrespect. as controversy. are you prepared for the? >> i can't control the. my job is to spit what i'm feeling, how you take, it that's a personal problem. i can't be walking through the room, granted, i may be looking to see who's talking to me. i heard after the stephen colbert when, he roasted bush to his face, nobody talked him.

it's a legendary speech now, at the time, literally no one will talk to him. any still w supposed to do. i think, at the end of the day, it's about spitting the truth as i see, as i believe the people in this country see it. and if the voters, if elected officials have a problem, change of the conditions that led to me writing that joke in the first place. >> i would have my little side out there, you know curry shahed or go poppy sign, i would have my go roy sign. >> i thought you have a number. when you get a hold of a six. >> i don't need to know, am i in the remarks? >> in a good way. >> oh lord. >> i'm gonna keep my job, roy, -- >> i'll try to keep my job to. i'm gonna host the daily show, can i pass everyone off, i want to accidentally cause. >> who we are looking most forward to seeing tonight? >> lester holt.

just some respect for the craft of journalism. for me, to have a degree broadcasting, and be in the room of so many people that i grew up watching, so many people that of the brain trust of the programs that i love, i'm nerding out as well. i don't even get to engage in any of it until i've done the job. so, hopefully, -- ominously lester holt. hey, you'd be doing it. that you talk to lester holt? >> that's all you talk to lester holt. >> i can. you have given a straight up and check. >> julie debris pulls you in. you'll have to let me know. leicester, a hug and bow. >> roy, we will be watching tonight, america waiting with bated breath, and the family name is on the line. make us proud. roy wood junior, host of tonight's white house correspondents dinner, thank you so much for your time. >> thank, you no pressure. >> if you love that, we have a lot more white house

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