brittani, last word to, you seeing this in a democratic campaign ad? >> i certainly hope that the democrats are -- dozier was drawn for the persecuted party. we need to be reminded that we took advantage of him and he should never ever hold it office again. >> brittani, susan, david, good to see you. that is going to do it for me on this edition about what reports. we will see you again next saturday, bright and early for the coronation of king charles. our coverage begins at 5 am eastern. yasmin vivian continues our coverage right after this. verage right after this. hey, everybody, good afternoon. i'm yasmin vossoughian. he could be anywhere. those chilling words from texas authorities as they search for the man charged with killing

five people including an eight-year-old child. a live report on that ahead. battle lines on capitol hill. over the debt limit. the reaction to the house republican demanding massive cuts in exchange for a deal. and the president unleashed as he and comedian -- take aim at politicians in the media the white house correspondents dinner. >> i want everybody to have fun tonight. please be safe. if you find yourself disoriented and confused, either your drone corps marjorie taylor greene. >> you look good, you dress, need to get the night threads on. you get the jewelry glistening. look like everybody got settlement money from fox news. >> rhonda sanders jokes credit. mickey mouse beat the hello to me, got there first. >> it'd into what i thought was gonna do. the trump perez was like a proud brownie you 84 hours ago.

to a feel justice this don't feel like justice let me travel to them georgia arraignment rallies. >> all of that plus a bombshell new report raising questions about millions of dollars being made by the white house supreme court justice john roberts. even if he refuses to appear before congress to talk about effects and the court. all of that coming up. we want to begin with republicans today refusing to back down on their stream planted for spending cuts. in order to agree to pay donations bills. their democratic colleagues, they are not a sting quite about it. want to get right nbc's julie tsirkin from the capital with more on that. julie, take us inside these conversations. what are we hearing today from members of congress? >> yasmin, it's obvious this bill is not gonna go to the senate. it's dead on arrival. it is something that house republicans can point to and

say look, we passed a bill. it's democrats that are doing anything on this issue. i gotta tell you and my conversations behind the scenes with folks in this building they are getting increasingly more concerned that both sides republicans and democrats can't even seem to agree on whether these negotiations should be had. i want you to take a listen to some of what we heard today. the first thing you hear us from senator bernie sanders who says yeah, the president should sit down with speaker mccarthy to negotiate. but they shouldn't be holding this hostage. the second from congressman joe neguse who hits republicans for their bill. watch. >> we can start negotiating tomorrow. you cannot be holding the american people and the world's economy hostage. for the republicans have got to say is absolutely. we are going to make sure that we pay our debts. let sit down and negotiate our budgets. >> the hypocrisy shown by my colleagues on the other side of the aisle is both confounding and stunning. as you know, as many of your viewers i suspect our warehouse,

republicans have proved the debt ceiling increase multiple times during the course of the trump administration. >> yasmin, you have some democrats particularly more and more privately who are pushing these negotiations for president biden to sit down with speaker mccarthy. still, you hear others who say they shouldn't be negotiated in tandem. speaker spending cuts excuse me with a debt limit increase. at the bottom line here, it's really not clear what the path forward will be. with the default just weeks away potentially. now we're starting to hear it might be budgets they will be talking about. that's something that's not gonna be passed until september. they can continue kicking the can down the road. but the concerns are certainly growing here. >> julie tsirkin, appreciate it. a deal, everybody, to save yet another bang collapse could be coming anytime now. u.s. regulators are working to finalize the sale of first republic bank. that is set to become the third major u.s. banks to fail in just two months time. they were asked to give initial

offers by friday with final bids to today at noon. a deal is expected to be announced before the asian markets open tonight. first national was first founded back in 1985. was temporarily acquired by maryland before being sold after the 2008 financial crisis. let's talk about the ranking news we're following as well. it is the widening man hunt for that shooting suspect in this weekend's mass murder in east texas of. the man that you see right there, suspected of killing five of his neighbors with an ar-15. authorities say his name is francisco or a pays. he saluted law enforcement for more than 36 hours now. nbc's priscilla thompson joining us now on the phone from cleveland texas. just north of houston. priscilla walk us through this. we heard from the chief yesterday. he mentioned they had this suspect within an area courted of. they had him under arrest. here we are 24 hours later. and they're still searching for

him. where do they expect the suspect is now and the likelihood they would apprehend him? >> yeah, yasmin, officials were sounding very company astray. expecting they would be able to locate the suspect within hours of his having fled. obviously, that has not been the case. authorities updating yesterday saying that he could be anywhere. they're talking about 10 to 20 mile radius or further that he could potentially be yesterday they were very heavily focused on a wooded area. a few miles from the scene. they had a law enforcement on horseback they. had dogs out there tracking -- they also had a heat sensing drone looking for him. we've been told that time that investigators were in touch with someone who had been in communication with the suspect. what we've learned yesterday is that they found a so phone and also clothing that the suspect seems to have said in that wooden area before the dog lost

-- they don't know where he is right now. seems to be and i've spent the day here in the community again talking to people about how they're feeling knowing that the suspect was accused of murdering five people is on the loose. potentially in this community. take a listen to some of what i heard from folks here today. >> i'm hoping he gets found. the police need to get on it. from what i'm hearing is that that's not the first time that the police got called out to the residents about him shooting is gone. i blame cleveland for that part. >> don't let criminals get away with crime and we won't have that problem. >> and that is sort of the message that we've heard echoed from people here in this community. neighbor saying that this is a common theme for people shooting their guns in the yard. that police are called in that it doesn't feel like they're enough done about that. people taking it as a normal

thing. even today, a lot of people telling us that they don't necessarily feel scared. but they do hope that he is caught and ultimately brought to judgment here. >> clear up something for, us if you will, priscilla. i understand there was some confusion about a new photo released by the fbi today of the suspect. >> yeah, earlier today. the fbi released a photo that they said was the suspect. and a picture of a tattoo. they have now tweeted out that it was an incorrect image. that is not an image of the suspect. they have removed from their fbi twitter feed. they are urging everyone to look out for what could be other photos they have sent out saying that is the man that they are searching for, yasmin. >> let's pull up that photo, in the control room, if we can. not just well priscilla was talking there to make it clear exactly who it is. authorities here are looking for with this latest mass shooting in this country. priscilla thompson, we thank you for walking us through that. we're just getting started, everybody. we're back in 60 seconds with

bombshell new reporting raising questions of millions of dollars polled by the wife of chief justice john roberts. it's coming even as the justice refused to appear before congress to talk about ethics. that conversation reporting is coming up next. you don't want to miss it it in person, i wouldn't have believed it. eating is believing steph. the subway series. try subway's tastiest menu upgrade yet. ♪ what will you do? will you make something better? create something new? our dell technologies advisors can provide you with the tools and expertise you need to bring out the innovator in you. (vo) verizon small business days are back. april 27th through may 3rd. you need get a free tech check and special offers. like a free 5g phone. get started today with verizon business. it's your business. it's your verizon. (psst psst)

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insider. thanks for joining us. we appreciated. walk us through some of the specific is the reporting on this as we get into it. what exactly jane roberts a job was and what concerns this whistleblower the most? >> >> jane roberts's role it was as a legal recruiter. in washington d.c.. it was her job to take senior officials who leaving government and big-time lawyers. replace them in new jobs. this is an established industry. it has been very good at. and she made a lot of money at it. it was getting paid commissions. usually get 20 to 25% of the first year salary of whoever got placed. that could be as much as 300 or 400 or $600,000. the whistleblower who gave these documents to the senate

judiciary committee in the house judiciary committee alleges that she was creating on her husband's position as she success -- and that law firms were more inclined to give her money because they wanted to -- to have more sway. that's what the whistleblower alleges. they also allege that she was paid more than other recruiters in the company. and made more money. this was not merely on the merits that it was also because of who her has been wise. >> my understanding is one of the firmness appeared before the supreme court. that she worked with. >> that's correct. she -- can salazar who's currently the u.s. ambassador to mexico at a firm called vollmer hail. wilmer hale prepared before the supreme court to argue a case. john roberts ruled in her clients favor. he did not recuse. we don't know who her other

clients were. there isn't any evidence that any individual lawyer that jean roberts placed argued before the supreme court there's no evidence that's the case. but it is the same forums. the same firms that were giving her money to praying the employees they wanted a in. so yeah, it's a lot of money. ten point $3 million. it's hard for the sort of worrisome thing is if your argument case before the supreme court. and the other, side of the lawyer you're up against. there from gabe the chief justice of the supreme's wife hundreds and thousands of dollars, wouldn't you want to know that going in. just so that there are actually some traditional standards for this where there are some guidelines that suggest that justice should recuse himself. where the chests should get a waiver. at least in from the other side about this. so the other side can say you know what, this isn't a big deal. we will proceed anyways.

i'm good with him recusal. they didn't do this. also, -- go ahead. >> you bring up the idea of wanting to know. knowledge here. there is also been discrepancy in issues with chief justice roberts disclosure of this money that his wife received. claiming it a salary versed's commission. talk quickly if you can about why that's problematic. >> every year supreme court justices voluntarily fill out these affixed forms. but they're bound to do them accurately. doing that willfully is actually a crime. clarence thomas -- with his own wife. in general versus k if he characterized this money that his wife jane roberts was making as salary. in fact, it was not salary. it was commission. we know that from this detail spreadsheet that insider publishing that inside a common

see the whole spreadsheet. it's as of the very top commission. there is a difference between the two things. with the commission, the money is coming almost not indirectly. from these law firms. it also varies year to year. it's not a steady amount of money. and it depends on the individual placement. so in my view, which chief justice john roberts should go back and amend those financial disclosures. this is a little bit harris bloody but these judges are master hair splitters. they know the meaning of these words. the u.s. department of labor has a definition of salary versus commission. this was not salary. these documents are authentic, their internal documents. from the recruiting firm. the show this was not salary, it is commission. >> mattathias schwartz, thank you for sharing this reporting with us. i do want to note as well. nbc has not independently confirmed the story. we've got a lot more ahead. still ahead, a forced to flee.

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let's go to the dangerous flooding in the midwest. from the surging mississippi river. it is cresting to near record highs and iowa. as a massive snow melt from up north continues to cause devastating floods. and we see george solis is on the eastern part of iowa in the town of beta indoor. thanks for joining us on this. we appreciated.

yesterday, entire towns were flooded. folks are barely able to get back to their homes to see and assess the damage. as you are taking a look at the community around you, what is it like now and it's the worst over? >> to start off. i want to say this is a day where it's adding insult to injury. you've had a bit of a drizzle. not that it's adding much to the water here. it's also cold. this community behind me completely underwater behind me you can see the mighty mississippi as it has overtaken this residential street. residents some of them still in their homes right now trying to clean up trying to salvage what they can. despite them being prepared for this. this is still a major community. the other part of that is that they have no heat. those that are in their homes right now can take a hot shower. they can have water to disinfect anything. this is just frustrating. they know that a yes, the worst of it should be passing by

fairly soon. inspected -- 21 feet or so. but then it's the waiting game. it's the water waiting from the sea. they can really see the damage and start assessing. this is the reality for a lot of homeowners. you can see some of these tractors in the water. basements underwater. granted some of the water has slowly started to recede. we don't have the worst isn't officially over. as you mentioned, i've been talking to residents. many of them emotional. some of them frustrated that this took them by. surprise others hoping the water recedes fairly soon so they can get to that cleanup in some of the restoring of their homes. others say we understand this is a we are live here. this is what we have votes, this is what we have waiters out here. still, we just want our utilities back on. so we can at least have a little bit of heat for those that are sitting behind. did not go to a hotel or not stay at a shelter. take a listen to what one of the residents from pleasant valley which is right next to me instead about some of the

damage in her hopes for what's to come next. >> it's almost seven feet in our basement. so everything i have put up was supposed to be -- it's too late to move it. so now everything is getting -- >> there is no way we can move anything. it's impossible. the currents too strong. >> yasmin, you have to give it to the people of this community. many of them are going because they say that this is not gonna deter them from living in this community. this is their home. this is where they chose to settle down. when it doesn't flood. it's quite beautiful up here there is wildlife. this is why people choose to live in this area. many tell us this is not the most historic flood they have seen. it is alarming that we now know that the water can rise up like this and as fast as it did. they're looking for very to somebody geisha.

and some more solutions outside of the walls and the locks. anything more that can be done. so the water doesn't rise like this as a now wait for it to recede and begin at the cleanup. >> george solis for us, thank you. straight ahead, at the latest on efforts to evacuate americans in sudan. plus a new law passed to protect ron desantis. that his presidential run fails. it's not the only voting law for the republicans are getting away with. a tough night for fox at the white house correspondents dinner. >> the cable news networks are here tonight. msnbc, and we see universal. fox news owned by dominion voting systems. >> [laughter] [applause] last year, your favorite fox news reporters were able to attend because they were fully

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we're following some breaking news out of sudan. this is developing story. you're looking at new video. just a short time, ago showing the rescue mission. to get americans out of the country. you can see a u.s. navy ship

docked in port sudan. taking what officials tells reuters could eventually be hundreds of americans to safety. there were 16,000 americans are behind. that original evacuation went on a week or so. many countries in the third week of violence. bordering on its civil war. we're getting details about that traumatic convoy that took u.s. citizens across 500 terrifying miles. to reach the port. nbc's josh lederman is with us. josh, good to talk to you. the civilians, they had air cover from armed drones. what else are you learning about their journey. >> yasmin, that armed drone system over that convoy it was really america's eyes on the convoy. it made that harrowing journey. the u.s. embassy is closed. the u.s. has not had a physical presence on the ground in sudan in nearly a week since it evacuated the embassy.

now, u.s. official tells me that a navy ship called the usns currents which has arrived in port sudan. this is an expeditionary rapid support vessel that is capable of moving a lot of equipment, a lot of people. more than 300 feet long. it's going to be assisting in this effort to get all of these americans who are now imports you dan on their way to safety. take a look. >> roughly 300 americans trapped in sudan are on their way to safety. a convoy of at least a dozen buses making a harrowing 500 mile journey through a war zone. from the capital khartoum to pour sudan along the red sea. u.s. official telling nbc news armed drones protected the convoy. the pentagon positioning u.s. navy assets nearby. evacuees next stop, safety and. nearly a week after seal team six rescued 70 government workers from the u.s. embassy. this was the first official u.s. civilian evacuation.

it's unclear if it will be the last. >> took us five hours to get out of the city. >> kristen vizcarra meted out without u.s. help. >> i am really scared. police say a prayer. >> denise is a teacher in sudan. they took a 23 hour bus ride a ferry than another bus to egypt. the trip interrupted by gunfire and mobile checkpoints. >> they were looking to make sure that there was no combatants on the bus. >> all the men off. screaming and arabic we had no idea what they were saying. >> as the death toll soars passed 500, desperate americans getting out anyway they can. satellite images appear to show buses piling up on each of sport. or >> this isn't around the clock entire department effort. >> this family made it out on a hungarian plane. >> did you expect more from the u.s. government? >> yes. >> we are so proud of americans. we thought america would look interests. >> the u.s. has made every effort to defend americans about the convoy. but is making no promises to those who missed it.

including several thousand americans who stayed behind. it >> yasmin, at midnight tonight. a 72-hour cease-fire. between the armed forces of sudan and a paramilitary group was set to expire. we're learning in the last few minutes that it is now been extended by another three days after efforts by the u.s. and saudi arabia to mediate that. the previous cease-fire isabel bin in complete. marred by gunfights and other violence. the big question is whether this cease-fire will really hold. >> we're gonna keep our eyes on that. josh fetterman for us. we're also following some breaking news out of israel. kevin mccarthy is making his first international trip as house speaker. he stopped in georgia. enemies are the king of the crown prince right now he's in israel. tomorrow's schedule to the prime minister vivian antonia who. then you give a speech at the knesset. florida governor ron desantis set the stage for a 2024 run. as he's expected to formally announce his bid in just a

couple of weeks. last week, the republican controlled legislature quickly passed a new election law. allowing around desantis to run for president without having to resign as governor. it is coming as the florida governor wraps up before country twirl. though he reportedly failed to impress business chiefs in london. he called them low wattage. and horrendous. saying he also looked bored. one of her in florida -- talk more about this. senator jon, thanks for joining us. we appreciate it. between this new law. that he can remain governor and run for president. along with its international trips. it seems as if we should all be sure that rhonda scent is going to announce his candidacy for president of the united states. that being said, considering this new law. it seems like he's being realistic about his chances. >> i think you're right, yasmin. i sit on the floor last week.

if the governor wants to run for president, he should run for president. the issues that florida are far too great for the governor to travel the country, address the state of almost 23 million people. governor desantis is on this mission, and we have a 60-day legislative session that's going on. still recovering due to flooding. ongoing insurance crisis still giving many floridians getting society. like i said, don't hold a hostage as you try to move your political ambitions. >> there was more in the passage of this law as well. want to quote hear. prima piece about it. democrats were critical that the legislation includes steep new fines for outside voter registration groups as well as requirement that these organizations must now give -- when someone fills out a voter registration. why do you see these measures as being problematic. especially when you're looking

at more marginalized communities? >> this attack him third party voter registration organizations is something that -- in the chambers last week. there are a great deal of organizations from the fraternities and sororities. a lot of third-party organizations that have come about of the past few years. this was an attack on those third-party put a registration organizations. we are finding up to $250,000 if they make a mistake. or if you have someone whose undocumented was volunteering for your third for the veterans fusion organization. to where they can be it deported and you can be arrested. and you also are fined up to $50,000. that doesn't sound like a state that has looked for individuals to participate in this democratic process. participate in the mccarthy. this is very clear. this is par for the course what we see in this republican led legislature. that's on a run desantis. >> thank you, sir.

let's go to the white house now. where the president is wrapping up a very eventful weekend. last night, the president delivered remarks to white house correspondents dinner ready to get its critics and members of the republican party. one great nbc's monica alba. he was covered it all for us. it's up to be here this morning, i got up early, i got on the plane. got back to new york. it is quite an evening to say the least. and the president going after his critics there. addressing the elephant in the room which is the -- he has received when it comes to his age and running for reelection. >> exactly, couldn't see, you. yasmin to finally see you and meet you in person after all these years. that is one of mega per. >> i kept saying to people i can't believe you have legs. >> it was a delayed. it is a very special evening for journalists in terms of celebrating press freedom of the first amendment, of course. it's a tradition that goes back all these years presidents of

both parties. most of them always to poke some fun at themselves. that's kind of what's expected. there is always the kind of roast quality. no chance for the president but from the main feature comedian who last night was roy wood junior. you are absolutely right. the presidents age, the fact that he's 80 years old, the oldest ever commander in chief to serve. he'd be 86 at the end of another term if he wins in 2024. that was very right material. this is a president who's getting continue to be asked about that. as republicans to continue to bring that up even though we know that if former president trump of being the nominee, he is 76 years old. of course to be a couple years older if indeed he was able to win back the white house. age is gonna be part of the conversation on both sides of the aisle. here's how the president talked about that while trying to really laugh at himself a bit.

>> you might think i don't like rupert murdaugh. simply not true. how could i dislike the guy who makes me look like harry styles? call me old? i call it being seasoned. you say i'm ancient. i say i'm wise. you say him over the hill. don lemon would say that's a man in his prime. >> using some recent media shakeups to make us point. they're of course, sending all the jokes aside. what's really important to was the president dedicated a lot of his speech to talking about wrongfully detained americans. including journalists like austin tice and emit -- currently being held in the syria and russia respectively. that is an important thing to shine a light on.

both journalists are members of their families for their last night. received standing ovations. and of course, wnba superstar britney griner was in attendance as well. hopefully, offering a little slimmer and glimmer of hope to their families to see if it's possible that those americans to be brought home at some point in the future hopefully. >> it was incredible to see brittney griner in person there in the flesh. after having gone through what she has gone through and certainly as we said to see the president addressed the rights of journalists around this country. and this world and what they face. monika alba, thank you so much. we appreciated. coming up, back on the stand. e. jean carroll about to face another day across examination from donald trump's lawyer and her rape and defamation case comes to former president. we're gonna have a preview. the woman who worked to create the new down some trump rv because she wanted a tall that looked like her. kyle mckee entrants me in the next hour. you do not want to miss that conversation. and then this upcoming saturday,

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covering this for us. let's talk to some of the stuff. he wrote this week trump might finally be held accountable in a court of law. and if it happens, the hero won't be a prosecutor or a politician. after waiting nearly 30 years in a 79 years old carole might just be the first to enforce the law against the true teflon don. talk to us about some of the most compelling stuff you've seen so far. >> some of the most compelling stuff. yasmin, you already read from some of. it is how e. jean carroll is just unwilling to cede her ground about at the core of his story. that donald trump raped her and address your room at -- a very fancy department store in midtown manhattan. she has conceded other things along the way. she has conceded for example that she likes attention. maybe not this kind of attention however but the core of the story notwithstanding a withering cross examination by

joe tacopina has really stated intact. the most powerful moment is when he was going at her for not calling the police and not a screaming. and she said if you don't get to beat me up for not screaming. whether or not i screamed, he raved me. >> you also talk about the makeup of the team. i got into this a little bit with harry lewin. the choice of having tacopina question e. jean carroll. tacopina being a man. the absence of a single woman at the defense table is not a great look in the case all about an alleged sexual assault. talk more. >> not a good look at all. i should say it may not be an accident that after my tweet and some other commentary for mothers, that alina haboob who's been trump's lawyer on a number of civil matters including this one. -- until joe tacopina got involved came back to court this week. or she did not stand, she did

not argue. she was not involved in the cross examination of e. jean carroll. she's there is a signal to the jury, this matters to us to. i should also say that e. jean carroll's direct examination was also led -- that it was a strategic choice as well. >> i'm also interested to know your take on the makeup of the jury itself. i'm not quite sure exactly how many women are on the jury. but historically with president, who seems to be more sympathetic to rape victims on juries? >> it's really hard to say. i think some of it comes not from a person's gender from the life experience that they bring to the trial. we're looking at a jury right now that consists of six men and three women. of the women, certainly, they all look very engaged in what's going on. that's equally true of the men. >> you brought up how tacopina in a way was kind of trying to

cast doubt on carols credibility questioning her inability, as you mentioned, to recall the day, to call police as well. that's a re-victimization of someone that says that she was sexually assaulted was raped. how do you think that's all going to play into this? >> i think we're gonna hear testimony later this week from e. jean carroll's psychiatric expert who's going to talk about the psychological makeup of sexual assault victims and why it is that certain details are lost to them you. mentioned the date. each incalculably the data, the time, the year, the season. but other things are very visceral to her. including noises or smell is or what is she was wearing for example. her psychiatric expert will testify as to why that is for sexual assault victims another victims of post traumatic stress disorder. >> as always, we thank you. good to see you. coming up at the top of the hour. we are live in texas on the

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roe. one so strict that doctors could face five years in prison. originally placed the burden on doctors to prove their innocence. that was enough for my next guest, dr. kiley cooper. one of only nine maternal fetal medicine physicians and idaho. telling how faux she felt quote immense and needless suffering. she looked at eye with her family and nearly half of our colleagues already do the same. already have. doctor cooper is joining me now. dr. cooper, thanks for joining us on this. we appreciated. let me quote a bit more of what you told huffpo. every time i was on-call since been into place, i have so much anxiety. anytime you interfere into medical decision-making, it is not a good situation. take me back to those moments. what it was felt like that anxiety and why that combination is not good. >> when the bands took effect,

it turns my world upside down. as far as pregnancy complications go, they happen often. as a high risk obstetricians, affected my practice and my patients lives immensely. for the first time in my career, i was unable to offer the standard of care for certain pregnancy complications. and there was no exception for the health or well-being of the mother. and so waiting until somebody is very ill or actively dying is not the way that we practice medicine. and our goal is to help people have healthy pregnancies and healthy lives and preserve their future fertility. and so these fans were turned everything upside down and were very hard to stomach. ultimately, we made the difficult decision to leave the

state. there was a lot of difficult conversations about what this would mean for my family as well and my future career, or future patients that i would see. >> a couple of things that you touch on. that first and foremost, kind of the nuances of when so many women deal with. conversations, difficult conversations you had to had families, women that were not seeking abortions. but you've had to tell them they're fetus would not survive. in idaho, in a state like idaho with these restrictions now in place. what is that like? >> it's always a difficult situation. people end up in these really horrific a circumstances of pregnancy complications. and so having a very desired pregnancy in a very desired baby and not be viable.

that's a really tough conversation to have. with somebody. and then on top of that now, instead of being able to be with them through the whole process and to be able to either support their guidance, they have to find somebody new out of state. kind of relive that trauma all over again. -- where i worked previously, they could've continued that carole. oakley and the relationship, as i know personally, as well, it's so intimate between a patient and their obstetrician gynecologist, especially during pregnancy. it has to be someone that you trust immensely. you mentioned your family, right? also being part of the reason why you chose to leave. can you talk more about that? >> yes. it is not just about me. certainly, being in a position, that is my career.

my life, my calling. but there is also my family. when we found ourselves having these conversations about what if i get charged with a felony? what would that look like? how are we going to take care of our family? we started having these conversations we realize that this is too risky for us to continue to live here. >> i've got you, carly cooper. we thank you for all that you do adverse sharing a story with us. all right, everybody. we have got a lot more coming up. you are watching msnbc. our second hour starts right now. ight now. hey hey everyone i am yasmin vossoughian. if you are just joining us, we welcome you. if you are sticking with us, we are thankful for that. still on the loose and texas authority they're searching for a suspect who slipped away after the country's latest mass shooting.

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