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of royalties on an ai colab using her voice. as we gauge on into the brave new world of music. steve patterson, nbc news, los angeles. >> another career for you, steve. we have a lot to cover in our second hour of "chris jansing reports," let's get right to it. at this hour, the next potential candidate to take on former president trump is hinting that he's getting ready to jump into the 2024 race. we'll tell you when that announcement could come. plus, escaping war torn sudan, armed at u.s. drones helped escort hundreds of americans on a 500 mile journey over the weekend to a key port city after having to flee the country and fierce fighting. and zero leads a massive man hunt is underway in texas to find the suspect responsible for a mass shooting that left five dead including a 9-year-old boy. where that investigation stands now. plus, slow moving disaster, the
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mississippi river is set to crest today as homes are already seeing serious flooding across iowa and illinois. our reporters are following all of the latest developments. let's go to george solis in iowa here. what are you seeing and how are people preparing? >> yeah, lindsay, as you mentioned, the mississippi river expected to crest today and tonight, but the damage already done. behind me you can see this road closed sign, very obvious when you can see why, right, the water here inundating the road, a lot of residents here have this down to a science. they have set up the sandbags, walls here to make sure all of the water does not go into their garages and basement. but of course in other areas where the water is so high, the damage has been done. the story here has been residents using their boats, whatever they can to get into their homes, get to higher ground and try to salvage what they can. it's been an emotional weekend for a lot of residents who have
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been combatting not only the flooding, but those who wanted to stay behind couldn't because unfortunately they couldn't take a shower. they couldn't cook anything. they have had to go to shelters, they have had to go to hotels wherever they can find bookings. the hope now that the water is starting to crest is that it will start to recede fairly soon. some that have not experienced this before are finding this to be quite shocking. take a listen to what one resident recently told me. >> i have no idea. i have no idea. i wasn't ready for this. i would hear rumor of it and so i guess in the back of my head i didn't think it was going to happen. >> reporter: yeah, so the water expected to recede within the next two weeks, which for residents can't come soon enough so they can begin the next part of this, which will be the clean up. lindsay. >> certainly. george solis, thank you. new details coming in today about the man hunt for the suspect who shot and killed five
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members of the same extended family in texas. nbc's sam brock is covering it now from the town of cleveland. sam, what's the latest? >> reporter: yeah, right now there are hundreds of law enforcement officials that are saturating these communities looking for francisco orpesa, we have an update. just a few moments ago, montgomery county sheriff's department, they had posted roughly an hour ago, matching his description. they just clarified on facebook, they searched the area, turns out it is not. that proved to be a false alarm as right now over a wide span of area, that's 20 miles away, we're talking many adjacent communities where officials are going door to door and trying to glean information. so that's the latest that we have on that front. we're also getting bone chilling new details from a conversation that our priscilla thompson had with the father of a young boy who was murdered. his dad wilson garcia told her
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he is one of three kids that he has, a young infant child, also has a 2 1/2-year-old daughter, and the loss of his son, the child that never stopped smiling, wanted to be a police officer, and those dreams were cut short, he said that two of the women in the house that night shielded the children, said they sacrificed their lives for those little angels, and his daughter was one of the kids who was saved. we learned that. we also learned there was a confrontation building over the course of 20 minutes, in his words, that the original concern was that his neighbor was firing his rifle off in his front yard, and the infant child was crying and scared by that. he went over there with a couple of other men, if you have to do this, do it in another part of the house, you're scaring our kid. the suspect was belligerent and minutes later started loading his gun and ultimately walked over to the other side of the house and came right through and started firing, first killing his wife sonia and going room by
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room and continuing to fire. the question in all of this, what was the time line like for the police response. that could be a conversation point in the days and weeks ahead. as he said the police were contacted five times over 20 minutes, the sheriff in san jacinto county said that originally, they thought it was a harassment sort of situation. as soon as it became clear the situation escalated, they sent the force immediately to see what was happening. whether or not this is a large space, not a lot of police officers who are present or i can tell you that just walking and driving around here, it's sparse, it's rural. there's a lot of space between homes, not exactly clear but there will be questions about how to come and rescue the family of five that were killed. ten people in the house, five were murdered execution style in the words of sheriff. we're learning what next twists and turns of the search are going to be as the man hunt is in its third day. >> just impossible to wrap your mind around. sam brock, thanks for the latest details. a new e-mail from the u.s.
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embassy and the thousands of americans still stuck in sudan says the government is not planning further convoys to the country quote, at this time. i want to bring in ali arouzi who has been following the escalating violence. what does this mean for the americans still trying to get out? >> reporter: hey, lindsay, well, it essentially means they are on their own steam right now. in that e-mail the that u.s. government sent to the people in sudan. it said that they are now ceasing evacuations for the time being. now, those circumstances may change depending on the situation on the ground, but they're not planning to get anybody else out. they have told the people that are in sudan right now, mostly in khartoum that if they want to evacuate, they need to make their own way to port sudan from khartoum, which is about a 500 plus mile journey, and a dangerous, treacherous journey, and that means they'll have to get there by themselves. they won't be in a convoy, there won't be drone support over air, and that makes it all the more
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dangerous traveling alone or in a very small group of people. so unless that situation changes, they're pretty much on their own up until port sudan. when they get to port sudan. then the u.s. has told them that they could possibly get on to commercial vessels, which will take them to the port in saudi arabia. they're a long way off from that. we know that before this latest wave of evacuations, there were around 16,000 in sudan. most of them in the state department said a fraction had expressed interest in leaving. of course the u.s. had come under a lot of criticism, embassy staff, and elite seal commander mission, basically telling the thousands of others left there on their own. that's the situation for the people currently there. >> ali arouzi, thank you.
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let's go now to the latest from south carolina republican senator tim scott, teasing what he says is a quote major announcement in the coming weeks. nbc's ali vitali was on capitol hill. senator scott has been hinting about a potential 2024 run for a while now. what are we expecting? >> this is sort of the least surprising news ever out of senator tim scott, given the fact that he has been in iowa, new hampshire, south carolina, i have been in many those of places with him. he has been road testing a message of optimism that is ultimately going to be leveraged into a presidential campaign. tim scott at an event in charleston said he would be back in his home state at some point in the next two weeks. may 22nd is the day he is going to take the next step in going from exploring a run for president, to officially announcing a run for president, and the message he's had over the course of the last few months says he's considering sounds like this. >> it's time to restore hope in
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america. time to restore the greatest nation in god's green earth and it's time to get the job done, protect america, set our people free. let's do it together. rise up and defend the greatest nation on god's green earth. >> reporter: now, look he already sounds like a presidential candidate there, and the exploratory committee has been formed so really it's a matter of making it official on paper, nevertheless, he's going to be doing that in the coming weeks, and look, once scott is officially in, he joins a field that i think is smaller than many of us thought it was going to be in viewing for this 2024 republican nomination, but it does put him in direct opposition to people like former president trump and fellow south carolinian and former governor nikki haley, they're both going to be competing in their home state. that's going to be a rivalry of course, but really the man to beat if you continue to look at the polls is the former president.
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scott in interviews i have done in recent weeks has not made the delineation and contrast clear. at some point he's going to have to. dhs secretary mayorkas with a stark new warning about the controversial immigration policy title 42 expiring in ten days. that's coming up in 60 seconds. n s so, you found the no7 then... it's amazing! hydrates better than the expensive stuff i don't live here, so i'm taking this and whatever's in the back. it's already sold in the us. but i'm not taking any chances. the uk's #1 skincare has crossed the pond. at t-mobile, your business will save over $1000. what are you going to do with it? i could use a new sign. with t-mobile for business, save more than $1000 versus verizon. and with our price lock guarantee, we'll never raise your rate plan. ever. i have moderate to severe plaque psoriasis. now, there's skyrizi. ♪♪ with skyrizi, most people who achieved 90% clearer skin at 4 months...
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they don't have as many resources as they need. >> we need people. we need technology. we need facilities. we need transportation resources. all of the elements of addressing the needs of a large population of people. >> joining us on this topic, we appreciate everybody here. krish is ceo of the lutheran immigration and refugee service. the day we're talking about here, may 11th, it was set by the biden administration. they have known about this. why are we now seeing new policy announcements. >> administration officials that i spoke with about this today
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say that. the latest plans announced on thursday were announced really to reinforce these preparations by the biden administration. as you heard dhs secretary mayorkas say yesterday that all resources are needed because of this extra surge that we expect, once title 42 is lifted and these border cities like san diego, like brownsville, who have already said that they are running short on the money and the resources needed to protect these migrants. but white house officials are saying that they have really done all they can do unilaterally on this. they say they wanted to expand these legal pathways as much as they can, but the ball is now in congress's court to pass comprehensive immigration reform that these officials say have been in congress's hands on the first day of the biden administration when the proposal was released. they point to the fact that the president has called for more
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funding for more border patrol agents, for more resources along the border. they're saying the new processing centers expected in colombia and guatemala will help to reduce the surge along the border so the migrants will be able to apply for asylum before getting to the border. and they point to an expected $300 million that's expected to be released in the coming weeks to the border communities as they anticipate this surge. white house officials tell me the biggest challenge continues to be dispelling rumors and misinformation they say is spread by smugglers to the migrants, once title 42 is lifted, the border is open. that remains the biggest challenge at this point. >> what options do lawmakers have at their disposal and is there an appetite to set those forth? >> well, you know, technically, lindsay, they have the ability to do whatever they want, and they have had the ability to do whatever they want for some time. they have no will to actually
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make that happen, and there's certainly not a policy precipitation to solve the problem in the next ten days, especially when you consider how the congress has been deadlocked for so long. republicans last week unveiled a border security package, a number of different pieces of legislation that they're going to introduce when they come back from their recess. none of that would be passed in time to deal with the title 42 issue and it's also very likely that any legislation passed out of the house of representatives would be dead on arrival. it's in many ways the story here, the two sides really have no interest in finding any kind of common ground on this issue. republicans want to focus all on border security. democrats want to focus all on the efforts to allow for easier pathways for legal immigration. there seems to be no discussion about the solutions that exist in the middle and that's part of why this is likely a crisis that's going to continue for the
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time being. to make this journey, we talked about the manipulation and misinformation, and this policy was expected to end at the start of the year. at the time we saw shelters at the borders capacity, we saw phrasing, do you feel like the administration maybe the shelters are better equipped this time around. are you expecting another humanitarian disaster? >> i think the administration has certainly put in some resources, but i do think secretary mayorkas's admission is accurate in terms of what nonprofits like lrs are seeing on the ground. every day our teams are serving children and families who have been uprooted from their homes, extreme poverty, climate
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disaster, they arrive with nothing but the clothes on their backs. safety, a better life for their children, and so that desperation will continue to drive this influx. and we are seeing a significant build up on both sides of the border. more than 20,000 migrants were in border control custody, as of friday morning, which is twice the agency's detention capacity, which is 85,000. in juarez, we have seen at least 10,000, just across the border in el paso. yes, we saw the mayor's state of emergency declaration that will allow the city to open up temporary shelters and access federal funds. the uptick we were seeing is going to continue to grow. and it's because of a pent up humanitarian demand, demand is not new. it was a result of the trump administration's policies like remain in mexico, and cutting off legal pathways, but we aren't seeing the kinds of
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preparations necessary for may 11th and so we are bracing ourselves for what could be a humanitarian crisis. >> the administration just announced new policies make a difference or do they feel like they're not going to do enough at this point? >> i think they are helpful at the margins in the sense that they do need to reduce the pressure at the southern border. chick migrants shouldn't be coming that route. those who are seeking family reunification. the reality is because the administration, because congress had not come to an agreement, the southern border has become the only pathway to come into the u.s. i think the executive branch, the white house are doing what they can. given the limited constraints, and this is why congress needs to act. it may feel like ancient history to think about the fact that just ten years ago this month, we actually had comprehensive immigration proposal that passed
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the senate by 68 votes. that seems incomprehensible today. the truth is for us to act with the scale necessary to avert a crisis, it is going to require administration and congressional action. >> a little over a year ago, we had an immigration in january of 2022. >> unfortunately the president made so many promises that he still hasn't kept, and not only that, you know, many of the realities right at the border are in some ways worse for some people. to me, it is a low grade, and we still have time, right, he still has a few more years before the next election: and i would hope that he reverses course on how he has done so far, but definitely we have not seen what we wanted to see from his promises. >> this is a human problem but
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we would be remiss if we didn't talk about the politics as well. a year later, has the opinion among activists changed? >> i don't know that a lot has changed because the biden administration has continued its approach. essentially it's been a policy mix of partial enforcement, expanded legal pathways, there are some welcome measures of course that we have seen in the last year. we've seen the continued expansion of humanitarian programs. that's helpful because it does allow for people to apply from their home country. but it is a temporary solution. we've also seen the administration talk about additional family reunification programs. that to us is a bipartisan program that auto receives support from both sides of the aisle. we have seen the administration double the number of people who could be resettled through the region. and i think that is also useful. but we have to recognize that the administration has also announced ways to limit asylum
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processing that's included the transit band, even discussions of family detention. and so the reality is that there are activists, there are immigration groups like ourself who believe that it shouldn't have been this difficult to change the trump administration's policies, and even title 42 is a great example of it's been a place for two years, this is a holdover from the trump administration, and while there is been litigation, and we appreciate the administration criticizing title 42, we have also seen it expand its implementation, and so i think it is a mixed bag, we are hopeful in this final year of the first term that we will see the administration lean into having more welcoming policies. especially at a time when our country needs more migrants. we have 10 million jobs that are going unfilled, and so i think there's a huge opportunity for the administration to even pivot more substantially in this final
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year. >> allie raffa, thank you all for your time. this hour, president biden welcomes the president of the philippines to the white house amid growing tensions with china. new data released today shows the nation's nursing shortage has no signs of slowing down. that's next. ge has no signs of g down that's next. at t-mobile, your business will save over $1000. what are you going to do with it? i could use a new sign. with t-mobile for business, save more than $1000 versus verizon. and with our price lock guarantee, we'll never raise your rate plan. ever.
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that knocked out a key computer network used by u.s. marshals to track fugitives. let's bring in nbc's ken dilanian with more. what's the latest on this? an official familiar with the matter said a computer network that helps track down fugitives remains ouch service more than two months after nbc news first revealed it was hit by a ransomwear attack. now, the fact that the commuter system remains down was first reported by our friend develin barrett at "the washington post," which in his report described the impacted network as a stand alone system that contains cell phone and location data used to find targets. the post reported that the marshals did not pay the ransom. the ability to locate fugitives has been hampered, but they have used work arounds and have arrested thousands of fugitives
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since the attack in february. it wasn't immediately clear how much the outage is affecting the man hunt for the mass shooter in texas. it's apparent the marshals are not at 100% in terms of their ability to track which is a problem. the compromised network did not impact the witness security program or the marshal's mission to protect federal judges. >> ken dilanian, thank you. right now, our country is facing an urgent crisis in nursing according to a new survey from amn health care. the survey founds nearly a third of all nurses in this country say they will likely leave nursing for another career. and it's a direct result of the pandemic. 90% of nurses say the nursing shortage is worse than it was five years ago, pre-pandemic. erica, anyone who has been in the hospital or had a family member there, they know how much nurses do, how much we need nurses and appreciate them. they're clearly not feeling it,
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so what does this survey show, what can be done to turn things around? >> among nurses, about 80, 85%, in the latest survey, that percent dipped to 71%. nurses are emotionally drained, and they're actually worried that the job is affecting their own. they are the most hands, physically in the room with patients and families, checking vital signs, giving shots, checking breathing tubes. that takes a toll both physically and mentally. now, how they can turn around and get more resources in the terms of support staff. the administrative tasks, so nurses can focus more on patient care. also reduce the number of
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millions of ukrainians woke up to air-raid sirens this morning after russia unleashed a new wave of aerial attacks across the country. reaching cities far from the front lines. at this hour, at least 34 people, including five children, were injured in those strikes according to ukrainian officials. it comes just days after an especially devastating air attack in the city of uman left 23 civilians dead. over the weekend, families began to say their final good-byes to
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some of the youngest of those victims, including an 11-year-old girl killed by a russian rocket. nbc's ellison barber is on the ground in kharkiv. that video we are showing of that funeral, it's so hard to watch, and russia, i mean, it appears to be returning to a strategy that they used a lot during the winter. air strikes on civilian areas. what has the impact been? >> yeah, for a while, lindsay, it seemed like russia had backed off the strategy of country wide missile strikes or at least taken a temporary pause. you mentioned the strikes we saw in the winter. they aggressively targeted cities far from the front lines, trying to strike at that time electrical infrastructure. military analysts back then said that was a part of a wider military doctrine that russia was relying on where they were trying to cause fear among civilians, discomfort, discontent in the hopes that civilians would be frustrated and put pressure on their leaders to capitulate to
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russia's demands. that did not happen and now we're starting to see a renewal of strikes that appear to be heading to cities far from the front lines, not close to front lines, and in residential areas. russia claims the strikes they have carried out in the last three days have targeted military related infrastructure, reserve units, supply hubs for ammo, weapons and equipment. we have seen these strikes cause a lot of civilian bloodshed. in the dnipro region today, 34 people were injured after a missile hit a residential area there, according to local officials. they say the youngest victim injured in that strike was just eight years old. friday strikes, the ones you mentioned, there were 23 people killed in one apartment building in the city of uman, two others killed in dnipro. some of the youngest victims, they were buried this weekend, and the images we saw of the funeral, gut wrenching. we play a lot of it. we draw your attention to one
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child in the video. a little boy who's wearing an orange jacket. you see him crying, praying, he's standing next to two caskets, a casket of an 11-year-old and 17-year-old. the two children in the casket, they were siblings that, little boy in orange is the 6-year-old brother. the father talked to local media about being away at work and going into the room, and the room just being completely gone. uk's ministry of defense they have said in terms of friday's strike, there's a possibility that russia thinks they are targeting military infrastructure, but they have a process of targeting that's incredibly imprecise, and they are not taking care to try and avoid civilian casualties. they focus on what they think is perceives military necessities, rather than avoiding collateral damage, and that is a war crime. it is a part of the geneva conventions that warring parties must, one, not target civilians, and they also must protect people who are not involved in
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fighting, and what we have seen time and time again is russia violating that. >> ellison barber, thank you. with ukrainian and russian troops locked in a bloody stalemate and bracing for the spring fighting season, hundreds of russian men are now facing criminal charges back home for refusing to fight according to a "new york times" report. some tried to escape abroad, others down right refused to comply with orders. others went to extraordinary lengths, including shooting each other to avoid going to the front lines. >> i want to bring in neil mcfarquhar, a former moscow bureau chief. thanks for being with us, and you write about one russian officer who took a bullet in the leg, and it was actually part of a pact among several soldiers to shoot each other and claim they were wounded in a far fight. a better alternative than dying on the front lines. what do these conscripts tell
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you? >> good to talk to you. it's a sensitive topic. a lot of them didn't want to talk to us, and we to to sort of not give all the details we did get, not to give them away, but the officer in question, the one who was part of the pact with some other soldiers to shoot each other just said he had been gung ho about the military, a 9-year-old boy, went to cadet school, then his attitude soured as soon as he got over the border in february 2022, and, you know, he was -- just said that the entire war was meaningless to him, and he didn't know what he was doing there. and so, you know, the only way out basically was to be dead or wounded. you know, trying to surrender, it was just too risky, and so he and some other soldiers took an opportunity at one point to, you know, shoot each other.
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and six months later, after he was on the mend, it looked like he was going to be sent back and so then he went on the lam and left the country. so that's sort of one category in the army, and disillusioned. another soldier, after five days of being mobilized, he was from a minority group in siberia, and he said his officers were denigrating him, calling him a reindeer herder and all the soldiers were drunk all the time. one soldier stabbed another in a barracks, you know, and he kind of tried to bribe his way out and that didn't work, and he called his mother, and asked for advice. she flew in and there was a hole in the fence and she brought a taxi to the hole. we don't know the full extent but the trend has been
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accelerating all last summer and after the mobilization in september. >> russia stiffened penalties for those going awol, what happened to a soldier who refuses to fight? >> a soldier who refuses to fight faces three to ten years in jail, and somebody who ignores the order to, you know, the mobilization order faces up to ten years in jail. used to be five, but they never used to sentence them. they used to just give them a fine, but, you know, they have been getting seven and nine years, and, you know, a lot more jail sentences now, and we don't even know the true extent of the numbers exactly because they have gradually been taking any statistics about military cases off the web site of the supreme court. the military court's themselves
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have stopped making announcements about it, so we know roughly there's been a thousand people, sorry, a thousand soldiers ignoring the draft, 1,100 who have faced criminal charges and another thousand for refusing orders, but there's probably many more. >> neil mcfarquhar, thank you for joining us. pope francis revealed on sunday that a secret vatican peace mission is underway to end the conflict in ukraine. the pope did not give specifics but did say he's willing to play a greater role in negotiating the return of ukrainian children taken to russia during the war. francis also said the vatican has helped mediate prisoner exchanges, saying quote, all human gestures help. gestures of cruelty don't help. my next guest just posted a new piece and the headline reads "three paths to raising the debt limit, and why every one of them is murky," he'll join me to
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welcome back, everybody. president biden and first lady jill biden are welcoming the president and first lady of the philippines now for a bilateral meeting here talking about their close ties as of course we're seeing tensions and china's influence increase in the region. we're expecting some statements shortly, and we're going to go ahead and listen in when they do begin to talk. this meeting is significant. it's the first time the filipino president has visited in about ten years, and as we see the president's walking away from the camera before they make some statements here, let's go ahead and bring in white house correspondent monica alba. monica, let's talk about the
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significance of this visit and what we're expected to hear? >> reporter: yeah, as you just saw there, the two presidents are headed inside now for a bilateral meeting in the oval office which for the pool they're cover in the form of taped playbacks, we're not going to see that immediately. we'll see that in a little bit. of course as you mentioned, this is a really important meeting between these two leaders in the context of what's happening more broadly in the indo-pacific and in that region, and you see the white house here talking about multiple visits with leaders in that area when you have the prime minister of japan who was here earlier in the year, and of course the south korean president here for a state visit last week. you take those two things together with the president of the philippines today, and this is a way for the white house to talk specifically about boosting those alliances and those key relationships with those countries in the face of some provocative acts from china and certainly when it comes to
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security agreements as it relates to the south china sea, this is a very important relationship, and it is one that over the last couple of years even administration officials agree there could be improvements to the relationship, which is what these two leaders are discussing, and working on now, and the philippines is actually going to be giving the u.s. additional new access to some military sites there, which is important, again, in the context of what could be happen in the region and trying to prepare and work together as partners. and then of course they're also going to be talking about a lot of other major topics like climate change, and energy and all of that, but absolutely in terms of confronting and combatting china and dealing with what could happen in the area is really one of the biggest priorities here as you see the u.s. really reaffirming what they say is a very old and important relationship, one that had gone through ups and downs that they are hoping could be restored as a critical ally and
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partnership. >> thank you so much. appreciate that reporting. we know you'll stay on top of it. with only five weeks remaining before the u.s. is expecting to reach its debt limit, we have some new reporting on how any of the ways that this could be could end, any way you split it, all options could look murky. sahil kapur has a byline on the story. some of the options your reporting shows, the different pathways on how this could all end. >> reporter: the clock is ticking and there is no clear path to a resolution in congress about the debt ceiling crisis, and when you look at the possible scenarios, you start to see the problems with each one of them. let's go through three of them. door number one is the president and speaker negotiate this out. it sounds simple, right? just sit down and talk. biden and mccarthy get in a room, work it out. it's anything but simple. the president doesn't see this as a policy negotiation. he sees it as a hostage
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situation, and his attitude is he's not going to pay a ransom to one party, simply to pay the bills, to meet the country's obligations that both parties have accrued over the years, and the house republican passage of the bill that reflects their position with spending cuts has done nothing to change biden's position, and democratic leaders are still firmly with him in saying no negotiations until the threat of default is off the table. that gets us to door number two, what democrats have said for a while. take the threat of default off the table. negotiate a budget heard of the funding deadline. a lot of people were betting mccarthy would be forced fall back on this position. he proved some of the skeptics wrong, passing a bill through the house of representatives, a bunch of spending cuts, and caps going forward. it's going to be tougher to back down from that. he oversees a house republican majority that's held together by a bunch of members who don't much care for him.
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who would not hesitate to topple him from the speakership if they saw a clear path to doing it. he does not want to upset the members, especially now when he has given them what they wanted. door number three is getting increased chatter on capitol hill. pair the debt limit with budget negotiations. democrats want to negotiate on the budget, both parties can claim a win. there are two problems, the first is the calendar. treasury has said in the first half of june the country will fail to meet its obligations and default on the debt. that is not enough time to negotiate a solution. the second is policy, recent spending deals have increased spending, not increased spending, bipartisan deals because republicans like their military spending increases. democrats like their domestic discretionary increases. that is the paradox we're in. no clear path to resolve this, and the clock is ticking. >> thanks for joining us on this paradox. a lot is at stake for your
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create and release them. at the heart of it, compensation and job security for writers looking to survive in a rapidly changing media landscape. and a lot is at stake here if tomorrow there's no deal. nbc's marissa parra has been speaking to writers in los angeles. what is happening in these negotiations and what could a strike mean for the industry? >> reporter: so those negotiations are happening behind closed doors, as we speak. we spoke to a number of writers, and we spoke to one person who's on the board of negotiations for wga, and all we know is that they said everything can change at the last second. right now, those conversations are happening, but the big picture here is writers say that in today's climate, particularly with streaming, that what they're getting paid doesn't match up with today's environment. they are not getting paid enough to make a livable page, and they said they're going to do what it takes to fight against that because they want to be able to afford to do what they love to do. >> i think we're all feeling
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like we're being shoved down, like we're doing more work for less pay. >> i know people who have other part-time jobs who can't make it as a writer. it's turning into a bit of a gig economy, and i know people that are working multiple jobs to try and stay in los angeles and live in los angeles. >> if there's a writers guild strike in hollywood this week, it is going to have a massive ripple effect that you could borderline call a tsunami effect among the rest of hollywood in pretty short order. >> reporter: two things i want to get to here. i want to talk about the effect of streaming. that is something that's completely changed since the last writers strike 15 years ago. the way streaming is done, it's less episodes, longer production time, which also means less pay for them. that's why pay is such a big sticking point. they are asking for regulations ahead of artificial intelligence but then let's talk about the impact. if there's a writers strike, there would be a domino effect, late night talk shows, snl, and that would be first, that would
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be immediate, and then you would see the ripple effect throughout hollywood with these big famous that are still being written and tv shows, whether it's streaming, whether it's the traditional format, and then you would have the potential ripple effects beyond that because you might have other members of production who say we are also not going to cross that picket line. it's not just the idea that we're not going to have fully fleshed out scripts. there might be full productions that also go on a complete stop. >> marissa parra, we will watch and wait to see what happens before that midnight deadline. thank you. that does it for us this hour. joining us for "chris jansing reports" every weekday from 1:00 to 3:00 p.m. eastern here on msnbc. i'll be back here tomorrow. our coverage continues with "katy tur reports" right now. good to be with you. i'm katy tur. this morning, trump attorney joe tacopina asked the judge to declare a
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