he was in the audience and here i am hugging him. >> that's amazing. >> the circle is amazing. and lynn oliver and i have a new children's book, our 39th, coming out, in september about a little duck who wants to be a detective. >> oh, my god. >> who gets her eyes checked. it is an amazing thing. >> you brought it all -- >> she gets her eyes checked. >> so she can be a detective. >> i love this. >> weaving everything together. >> the fourth and final season of "barry" airs on hbo and hbomax. henry winkler, thank you very much. >> you're so welcome. can i just say, no matter what you think writers are so important. >> that's beautiful. that does it for -- oh, my gosh, we're late. that does it for us this morning. ana cabrera picks up the coverage right now.

hello and thanks for being with us. it is 10:00 eastern. i'm ana cabrera reporting from new york. we're now into day four in the manhunt for a suspected mass killer. the search growing more urgent by the hour as false alarms turn up empty. and today new questions about the police response to the shooting. what a survivor of that attack is telling nbc news about the terror that unfolded and five desperate calls reportedly made to 911. plus, zero visibility, look at this. a sudden blinding dust storm engulfing a highway, causing a deadly chain reaction crash. also developing overnight, hollywood writers trying to write their own ending, now on strike for the first time in 15 years. the ripple effects you could see if this strike lasts weeks or even months. >> if this lasts a couple of months, we'll start to see the

impact on the fall tv schedule and some movies will have to be pushed back. and june 1st, mark your calendar, that's how soon the country could default on its debt, sooner than expected, with the president and house speaker now agreeing to meet, can they reach a deal to avert disaster? let's begin with day four in that manhunt for a suspected mass murderer in texas as new questions emerge about the law enforcement response to 911 calls made before the shooting. joining us from texas is nbc news correspondent priscilla thompson, nbc news justice and intelligence correspondent ken dilanian with us as well and former fbi special agent clint watts. priscilla, you spoke with that survivor who says he tried to call multiple times before the shooting. what more is he sharing about how this all unfolded and how he managed to save himself and some others? >> reporter: yeah, ana, i spoke with wilson garcia, whose wife sonia and his 9-year-old son daniel died in that shooting.

and he says that when they went over and asked the suspect to stop shooting his gun in the front yard, he began to threaten them and say that it was his property, he could do what he wanted, and that was when he called police and said, this man is threatening me. we know that there were five calls, he says, that were made in the time that it took for police to arrive, which he says was around 20 minutes, we know some of the calls occurred about harassment and then there may have been some calls that occurred as the shooting was going on. and i did ask the sheriff about this over the weekend and he says that initially it was a harassment call and that seconds later he says they began to get calls about victims and a possible shooting and that's when the priority of the calls was raised. but to give you a bit of context here, this is a very rural area, some 700 square miles this sheriff's department is responsible for covering. the sheriff told the associated press that there were three deputies on call who were

responsible for covering this entire area and just to give you that context, we're not far from the crime scene, and we're about 30 minutes from the sheriff's department, the office. and so that could have contributed to some of that delayed response time, but, of course, a lot of questions here from people wondering why police weren't able to arrive sooner and we know from speaking to neighbors that people shooting guns in their yards was a pretty common occurrence around here. they would often call the police and they said the police would sometimes drive by, or by the time they got there, the shooting had stopped. they weren't necessarily able to nail down who was doing that, but still as those questions remain, this killer is still out on the loose, police continuing to work to find him and it is a very foggy day here today. but -- and still urging people to call in any tips. ana? >> those details make this story that much more heart breaking. ken, i know you've been in contact with law enforcement sources. there is an $80,000 reward, hundreds of investigators

involved in the search for this suspected killer who is believed to still be armed and dangerous. what can you tell us about this ongoing investigation and manhunt? >> good morning, ana. this is an incredibly intensive manhunt, but what the fbi is saying is that this is a cold trail. they really don't have any leads. they're hoping that the reward will gin up some kinds of useful tips. one interesting fact about this suspect is that we're learning from a u.s. official that he had been deported from the united states as many as four times, going all the way back to 2009, which suggests he may have ways of getting in and out of mexico, which complicates the search for him and perhaps makes it easier for him to escape. that is a concern of law enforcement. but they're pulling out all the stops. there are hundreds and hundreds of state, local and federal agents looking for this armed and dangerous suspect, ana. >> and, clint, a man who survived said maybe my family would still be alive if only police had responded more quickly after that initial call. and he says, quote, they would

cut off the call, i would call back again, i would call my aunt who lived two blocks away to see if they would answer her. i thought maybe they didn't believe me. and that's why they didn't want to help, but maybe they'd believe her. clint, by the time police arrived, it was too late. we don't know for certain the response time. the sheriff couldn't be reached for comment on this yesterday and the associated press quoted him as saying he only had three deputies covering a county spread across 700 square miles. your thoughts? >> yeah, and it is the opposite of new york city. when you come out in new york city, at 30 rock, you see a law enforcement officer probably within seconds, walking up and down the street. you wouldn't see more officers likely on a block there in new york city than you would see in these vast stretches of places like texas. the other part of it that i think is pretty important to consider is just the lack of what we call sensors. you look at many of the cases that have unfolded with shooters

or individuals on the run in recent years, there is a lot of detection. there is lots of tips and leads, camera picks them up. this is not the case. i think it is critical what ken noted there, this is a person that seemingly got into the united states several different times, is on the run, knew to drop the cell phone, knew to drop the clothes, you're talking about a place with only three sheriff deputies covering a vast stretch of ground and moving over ground, this is going to be a really, really difficult case for the fbi and the state and local law enforcement to track down. very different from what we have seen in other cases. just speaks to the amount of law enforcement and how concentrated it is in our country. in a lot of cities, we have vast police forces that can cover just about any tip or lead that is out there. we have response systems set up that way. i blet here i've been out to some of these places, they're more rural, you're talking about a half dozen people covering an entire state, like rhode island or other locations.

very difficult for them to do law enforcement. >> i wonder the more time that goes by, does it make it that much more difficult to catch this suspect? the fact that they have no leads or at least very few leads that we know of at this point? >> every day likely equals distance. he'll be able to move further and this is something that he clearly knows how to do. if he's come into the united states several times illegally, probably going to know how to move back and forth. i think ken's point, a lot of worries now, i'm sure, that the individual may have already slipped into mexico or could be slipping into mexico. how would we be able to detect that and once that happens how would we be able to pursue? it is something that has always been a problem. once he crosses the border, it becomes much more challenging. if he is doing that, i think this becomes exponentially more difficult for law enforcement. >> ken, there has been a lot of talk and some bad reporting, frankly, about the immigration status of not just the suspect but some of the victims as well. the texas governor has been

criticized for calling all five victims illegal immigrants in a twitter post that is still up. this should not be the focus of this story, and i think that's largely why governor abbott's post has drawn criticism. i want to make sure our viewers have the facts. can you tell us what we know for certain? >> ana, authorities have not clarified the immigration status of these victims. i should add as an aside, many law enforcement officials i talked to are repulsed by the idea that anyone would even bring that up. everyone who lives in this country deserves protection from crime would be their view. but the governor's office already had to clarify that statement because there has been evidence that has surfaced on twitter through a representative of one of these victims that at least one person, diana velazquez was here as a permanent legal resident. again, not that any of that matters, but the governor's office did clarify and express regret if they got that wrong. >> thank you for joining us for this conversation. ken dilanian, priscilla thompson

and clint watts, i appreciate it. turning to illinois now, where a stretch of interstate just reopened this morning after a wild dust storm turned deadly. take a look at these nearly blinding conditions. six people were killed, dozens more were injured when a combination of strong winds and dirt from the nearby fields caused more than 70 vehicles to crash. it was a massive pileup. nbc news correspondent shaquille brewster is following this story for us. shaq, what more are you learning? >> reporter: well, ana, we're expecting to hear from police, from illinois state police in just about half an hour or so. you mentioned that that stretch of highway, which is about 3 1/2 hours from here in chicago, just reopened this morning. it is a clear reflection of the scale of that pileup that was caused by what officials say is a pretty common occurrence. but that dustup, that dust storm on the highway causing deadly

and unusual impact. >> oh, my god! oh, my god! oh, my god! right in front of us. >> i see. >> oh, my god. >> reporter: a blinding dust storm along interstate 55 in rural illinois causing a deadly pileup. >> there are multiple injuries, multiple injuries, multiple vehicles. >> reporter: authorities say excessive wind blew around dirt from farm fields leading to zero visibility on the roadway. >> it occurred within a two-mile stretch. >> reporter: the terrifying ordeal happened in an instant, killing six people and injuring more than 30. overnight, state police identifying one victim, 88-year-old shirley harper. and releasing these new images confirming more than 70 vehicles were involved in the crash. >> there is another ambulance in front of us. >> reporter: the wild dust storm leaving behind an apocalyptic scene, vehicles flipped over, others completely smashed, tractor trailers engulfed in

flames. >> still blowing up. >> reporter: over 30 agencies responded. >> this is a difficult scene, something very hard to train for. something that we really haven't experienced locally. >> reporter: officials say these kinds of dust storms are not uncommon, but the number of vehicles and casualties is very unusual. >> i got lucky. i didn't get crushed. i could have been. >> reporter: nathan was able to drive away safely before getting out to help others. >> i pulled off on the left side and got out and started going to different cars. there were cars all over the median and the other side of the road, everywhere. >> reporter: in a statement, illinois' governor calling the fatal scene horrific. >> my heart goes out to anybody that found themselves involved in this particular situation. my heart goes out to them. >> reporter: you see some of those images, you can just imagine how terrifying it was to be in those conditions. state police say at least one person was airlifted from the scene. they say those who have been hospitalized range from ages 2

to 80 and describe their conditions as being from minor all the way up to life threatening. ana? >> wow, just incredible images there, thank you so much, shaquille brewster, for that reporting. we're back in 60 seconds. a cliffhanger out of a hollywood script. writers go on strike for the first time in 15 years. how soon it could impact shows from "snl" to streaming. plus, june 1st, that's how soon the country could default on its debts. can president biden and speaker mccarthy avert economic catastrophe? also ahead, is the indicted former president being muzzled in his hush money case? the new motion from donald trump's legal team that's putting his presidential campaign front and center. and it is reasonable to be wary of artificial intelligence. but one thing it could revolutionize is diagnosing cancer. "ana cabrera reports" is back in one minute. reports" is back in one minute

(vo) with verizon, you can now get a private 5g network. so you can do more than connect your business, you can make it even smarter. now ports can know where every piece of cargo is. and where it's going. (dock worker) right on time. (vo) robots can predict breakdowns and order their own replacement parts. (foreman) nice work. (vo) and retailers can get ahead of the fashion trend of the day with a new line tomorrow. with a verizon private 5g network, you can get more agility and security. giving you more control of your business. we call this enterprise intelligence. from the network america relies on.

hands down, laptops off, hollywood writers are now on strike for the first time in 15 years. thousands of screenwriters voted unanimously to go on strike after failing to reach an agreement with studios by that midnight deadline. and we should mention that comcast, the owner of our parent company, nbc universal, is one of the entertainment groups represented by the alliance of motion picture and television producers. this strike brings an immediate halt to production of late night talk shows like "the tonight show" with jimmy fallon. melissa parra is following developments from los angeles. what were the sticking points in these talks and walk us through the immediate and the longer term impacts. >> reporter: yeah, i mean, there is a significant impact, but to your point, you just mentioned one of them, let's talk about the sticking points. both sides here put out their own statements of what went down and we kind of whittled it down to these three main points.

what we're seeing is there was contention over the minimum number of weeks of employment that something writers were asking for from studios. and studios had also proposed a day rate for comedy and variety writers and then they really couldn't move past artificial intelligence. and so when you really think about potentially what went down in the room, remember, that deadline was supposed to be 11:59 and this statement saying that they had not reached an agreement came out hours earlier. so this was a big surprise to a lot of people because everyone thought this would really come down to the wire. and i think that's an indication of just how contentious it got in the room. take a look at this statement from wga, the writers guild, they really called the company's behavior a gig economy they created a gig economy inside a union workforce, saying that this negotiation has betrayed a commitment to further devaluing the profession of writing. you were talking about the impact this was going to have. we're going to see that first

with late night talk shows. but then when you look at the ripple effect this could have, this is really going to halt production overall because, yes, some of them may have put out their scripts before that deadline anticipating that there might be a strike today. but there is not only the issue of rewrites there is no rewrites that's going to happen and that always happens in tv and film writing, but then there is also the issue of other union members from other areas of production, teamsters, there is a lot of people who refuse to cross that picket line, ana. >> okay, marissa parra, thank you very much. keep us posted. up next on "ana cabrera reports," a senate hearing on supreme court ethics after some eye-raising reporting about justices. one witness not testifying. plus, economic catastrophe. too dramatic? it is not for treasury secretary janet yellen, who is raising alarms as the u.s. heads toward

a debt default. i'll talk with an economist testifying before the senate this week about what happens if washington doesn't act in time. washington doesn't act itin me so it's decided, we'll park even deeper into parking spaces so people think they're open. surprise. [ laughs ] [ horn honks, muffled talking ] -can't hear you, jerry. -sorry. uh, yeah, can we get a system where when someone's bike is in the shop, then we could borrow someone else's? -no! -no! or you can get a quote with america's number-one motorcycle insurer and maybe save some money while you're at it. all in favor of that. [ horn honking ] there's a lot of buttons and knobs in here. so, you found the no7 then... it's amazing! hydrates better than the expensive stuff i don't live here, so i'm taking this and whatever's in the back. it's already sold in the us. but i'm not taking any chances. the uk's #1 skincare has crossed the pond. age is just a number, and mine's unlisted. try boost® high protein with 20 grams of protein for muscle health versus 16 grams in ensure® high protein.

boost® high protein. now available in cinnabon® bakery-inspired flavor. learn more at boost.com/tv

introducing astepro allergy. now available in cinnabon® bakery-inspired flavor. now available without a prescription. astepro is the first and only 24-hour steroid-free spray. while flonase takes hours, astepro starts working in 30 minutes. so you can [ spray, spray ] astepro and go. at pnc bank, you can find us in big cities and small towns across the us, where our focus is to always support the people who live and work there. because you call these communities home, and we do too. pnc bank. annika. i found the bomb. ok johann. there should be a blue wire and a yellow wire. there's a blue wire with yellow stripes and a yellow wire with blue stripes. cut the blue one. one is mostly blue with yellow striping and the other one is yellow except for the parts where there are blue stripes, but it's still technically blue! are the blue stripes as fat as the yellow stripes? forget it! i'm cutting both wires!

visionworks. see the difference.

we're back with some breaking news. nbc news has learned the biden administration is considering sending active duty troops to the u.s./mexico border ahead of the lifting of title 42, expected next week. let's bring in nbc news homeland security correspondent julia ainsley.

julia, what have you learned? >> well, ana, what we understand at this point is the biden administration is considering, they haven't put ink to this yet, sending active duty troops to the southern border ahead of the lifting of title 42. title 42 are the covid-19 restrictions that kept migrants from being able to cross the border and claim asylum since it was started in march of 2020. sending troops to the border is not unusual. it wasn't under the previous administration. president trump sent over 5,000 troops and while we're still trying to confirm the exact number, it looks like it is going to be far fewer than that. we should also note that these troops will not be doing the arresting and they will be unarmed. under what is known as the posi comitatis act, u.s. military cannot be charged with enforcing domestic u.s. law within u.s. territory. so in this capacity they will be supporting border patrol rather than doing the interactions, the

arrest or using any kind of arms themselves. they'll be in a supportive role here. we should also note this is not is not active duty troops. >> thank you very much for that update. meantime, the stage is now set for high stakes negotiations in washington and with an incredibly tight timeline nbc news learned speaker kevin mccarthy has accepted president biden's invitation to meet at the white house on may 9th to talk about ways to keep the country from defaulting on its debts. and it looks like there could be even less time than expected for the president and speaker to reach a deal. treasury secretary janet yellen revealing the u.s. will be unable to pay its financial obligations as early as june 1st. that's sooner than previously expected. joining us now is nbc news correspondent kayla tausche in washington. chuck schumer is speaking about

the debt limit right now. we expect mitch mcconnell to also maybe make some remarks. we'll monitor for all as we continue this discussion, kayla. walk us through this high stakes showdown and what both sides are expected to ask for on may 9th. >> well, senate leadership has some decisions to make about which processes they're going to proceed with and how they're going to take that up at this may 9th meeting on the calendar will set the stage for the negotiations to come. a white house official says the president's approach is going to be to try to keep these negotiations separate, to try to continue to push to avert a default while running a parallel process to negotiate what government spending after september 30th of this year should look like. now, the house and republicans generally their priorities are going to be to try to figure out exactly which versions or which portions of the house passed bill from last week could be viable in this negotiation going

forward. what could they hang on to. but, you know, the president has been keen to note often that the debt has been accumulated over two centuries, that republicans raise the debt ceiling no fewer than three times under president trump with no questions asked, and to be sure the debt limit has been raised more often under republican administrations than under democratic administrations. but that being said, republicans are quick to note that it was vice president biden himself that led negotiations in 2011 to avert a default, it got very close, and agreed on a grand bargain of sorts that resulted in several years of cuts to government spending. now, you note, ana, the timeline is very, very tight here. june 1st will approach extremely quickly, especially because congress, both chambers of congress are only in session for two weeks between now and then. and the president is going to be traveling overseas for a week of that. that's led many policy

prognosticators outside of government to suggest that the really -- the only thing that can happen here is a shorter term deal, but it is still really unclear whether anyone in congress or whether the president could get behind something like that, especially because that would draw you even closer to that government funding deadline. >> thank you so much, kayla tausche, we'll continue to monitor the remarks from chuck schumer there. let's talk about the economic impact if the debt ceiling were to lapse. we're joined by mark zandi from moody analytics. mark, i want to lay out what is at stake for the u.s. economy and i'm relying on some of your figures from moodys for this, if the u.s. were to default, we should expect the markets to tumble nearly 6 million jobs wiped out, unemployment surging, social security payments in doubt, healthcare coverage in doubt, student lunch programs in doubt, and so much more. is this the biggest issue facing

not just the white house, but the american people right now? >> it is, ana. i think it is critical that lawmakers get it together here pretty quickly and pass an increase in the debt limit. that scenario you just described would be the darkest scenario. that is if the treasury debt limit is breached and it continues on for an extended period of time. i would be shocked if we ever got into that scenario because the damage would accumulate so quickly, i think the pressure on lawmakers to act would be so intense they would have to do something. but it highlights the point and that is, you know, if we reach the debt limit and don't get it together quickly, the damage to our economy would be incalculable. >> you're about to testify on capitol hill about this. let me ask you this, republicans want to combine budget cuts with any agreement to lift the debt limit. would that be the fiscally responsible thing to do? >> well, my own view is the debt

limit should be increased without any strings. but here we are. we got to increase the debt limit and we have to pass a budget for fiscal year 2024 by the end of september, otherwise the government will shut down. it needs that funding. i think it is a reasonable thing to combine these two things. and pass one grand piece of legislation. that increases the debt limit, hopefully for an extended period. i hate to be back at this year a year from now. in exchange for that, there is a negotiation which you have to do regardless over the budget and i think that's fair game. and -- >> but, of course, the president wants to separate those two things, right? and forgive me for stepping on you, the president is wanting to separate these two things saying we have to pay our bills, that's a no brainer, let's do that and then discuss the budget and where we can make cuts. i'm hearing you say do it at the same time, that makes the most sense to you, correct? >> it does.

i think the principle still holds. this is not about the debt limit. that has to be increased. it has nothing to do with anything other than increasing the debt limit. but we have got this budget at the same time, this is happening at the same time. that has to be done as well. let's marry these two things and by so doing, we can give political cover to house republicans, they can, you know, declare victory and pull local cover to the president and he can declare victory and we can move on and make sure that this doesn't undermine this already very fragile economy. so, i think there is a path forward here. a lot of drama between now and going down that path, but i think that's the way they're ultimately going to go. >> mark zandi, i appreciate your perspective and insight. thank you so much for joining us. >> sure thing. >> a lot of eyes are on capitol hill this hour, where senators are also holding a hearing on ethics and the supreme court. this comes after two justices, clarence thomas and neil gorsuch, have come under

scrutiny after reports looking into their business dealings. the justices themselves will not be testifying and most notably absent chief justice john roberts who declined a request from committee chair dick durbin last week. joining us now, nbc news capitol hill correspondent ali vitali. ali, what are we hearing from lawmakers this morning on the hill about supreme court ethics reform? >> reporter: yeah, ana, this is something we have seen bubbling in the last few weeks since the chairman of that committee, dick durbin, first sent a letter to chief justice roberts asking him to come in and testify because of those new allegations against sitting supreme court justices about undisclosed business dealingings that may run afoul of ethics concerns. they may run afoul of concerns but not actual rules. and that's the point of the committee hearing now, is to start the conversation on capitol hill about potential reforms to the supreme court's code of ethics. so far what we have heard and we're still in the opening phases of this, you see senator

kennedy there on the republican side giving his opening statements, he's one of the ranking members on the subcommittee that is also sponsoring this hearing. they should be kicking off the q&a portion in a few minutes. this is why democrats say they are doing this hearing. you'll hear it from senator alex padilla and we heard it in the room. watch. >> the highest court in the land should not be subject to the lowest ethical standards. so what we're saying at today's hearing is we clearly can't trust you to police yourselves. so congress will have to do it for you. >> reporter: and, look, this is a conversation that is not just happening because of the recent questions that have been raised about business dealings by gorsuch and thomas, but also from last summer, during the january 6th committee hearing investigations, during the questions that were being asked about the role of justice thomas' wife, and the conversations she was allegedly having with people inside trump's orbit. this is about right now the

judges, but also it is a conversation that has been happening for about a year now on capitol hill. senators saying that it shouldn't be their job to police the court, but they feel that they are within their rights to do so since the court is clearly not making moves to police itself from an ethics perspective. >> ali vitali, we know you will keep us posted on what is discussed in today's hearing. thank you for that reporting. up next on "ana cabrera reports," where the civil rape trial against donald trump goes next after e. jean carroll's testimony. the new argument by the indicted former president's attorneys in the hush money probe that has him facing 34 felony counts. and ahead, we're in a hospital operating room with an up close look at how artificial intelligence could revolutionize the fight against cancer for millions of americans. or f millions of americans.

tv: try tide power pods with 85% more tide in every pod. who needs that much more tide? (crashing sound) he does. mom: we're having triplets. no, what does that mean? it means you're gonna need more tide. -see? -baby: ah. more likes? more tide. the more adorable? more tide. everyone's gonna need more tide. ♪ you're gonna need- more tide. it's a mess out there. that's why there's 85% more tide in every power pod. if you have moderate to severe crohn's disease skyrizi is the first and only il-23 inhibitor that can deliver clinical remission and endoscopic improvement. serious allergic reactions and an increased risk of infections or a lower ability to fight them may occur.

tell your doctor if you have an infection or symptoms, had a vaccine or plan to. liver problems may occur in crohn's disease. control of crohn's means everything to me. ask your gastroenterologist about skyrizi. ♪ control is everything to me ♪ learn how abbvie could help you save. now adt professionally installs google nest products... cool. you're all set. so your home is safe and smart. we're gunna miss you. you can check in on your home. arm the system, we should go. manage your system from virtually anywhere. (thump) (scream) and get intelligent alerts, like when a package has arrived. - bye. have a good night. -boo! when the most trusted name in home security adds the intelligence of google, you have a home with no worries. brought to you by adt.

this delectable ramen noodle recipe will put an end to your drive-through dinner rituals. throw that powder in that tasty combo of delightful carrots, and the rich touch of bok choy. knorr taste combos. it's not fast food, but it's soooo good. ♪ ♪ joe biden grew up middle class. and he gets that middle-class life is too expensive. that's why he passed the inflation reduction act. it lowers prescription costs by letting medicare negotiate with drug companies. it lowers energy bills by investing in american-made clean energy. and it's fully paid for by making big corporations pay the taxes they owe. the inflation reduction act is making middle class life more affordable. because joe biden gets it.

and he's getting it done. [♪♪] beif you have diabetes,it. it's important to have confidence in the nutritional drink you choose. try boost glucose control®. it's clinically shown to help manage blood sugar levels and contains high quality protein to help manage hunger and support muscle health. try boost® today. our customers don't do what they do for likes or followers. their path isn't for the casually curious. and that's what makes it matter the most when they find it. the exact thing that can change the world.

some say it's what they were born to do... it's what they live to do... trinet serves small and medium sized businesses... so they can do more of what matters. benefits. payroll. compliance. trinet. people matter. this morning, court is back in session in the civil rape and defamation trial against donald trump. the defense wrapped up its cross examination of e. jean carroll monday. and trump lawyer joe tacopina pressed the writer on old facebook posts that criticized trump and praised the apprentice. trump denies all the accusations against him. joining us now, nbc news correspondent ron allen outside the courthouse, and civil rights attorney and former prosecutor charles coleman, also an msnbc legal analyst. ron, start us off. what are you hearing from the courtroom this morning?

>> reporter: new witness lena burnback, the first woman that carroll says she called to tell about what happened in the dressing room of bergdorf back in 1996. and they were friends, work friends, she says. she's a writer who has written 22 books and published a plethora of magazine articles over the years. very well known best-selling author at times in her career. so, she is the closest thing to a witness to the actual alleged attack that we think we're going to hear from. also, a second woman, carol martin, another friend of carroll's, who she says she called at the time as well. we expect to hear later from the trial, perhaps after burnback. so this is really important because, remember, carroll has not been able to even say exactly when this allegedly happened, the date, the month, she knows, she's been very graphic and detailed in explaining where it happened, at bergdorf, but the when and the

date is -- has been missing. right off the bat, burnback said this happened at the call that she got from carroll happened in the spring of 1996, which is when carroll said that she thinks that this happened. so, that's something that we're going to see how that develops. how she help burnback and carroll determine what happened. the fact that carroll said she was laughing in the call, when she talked to burnback about this and the way carroll recanted the call, she said that something to the effect that burnback told her that trump had raped her, kind of an odd way of -- odd thing about the conversation that the defense zeroed in on is they tried to find things in carroll's columns and her books and writings and interviews, in her facebook and social media posts, anything that suggests that she is lying about this, that she is not

behaving or acting or speaking in the way that a rape victim might be expected to act and speak. at least they're trying to put that doubt in the jury's mind. so, again this is a very important witness, the closest to an eyewitness to the actual -- to the alleged event, to the alleged attack that we think we're going to hear. >> all right, ron allen, i appreciate the latest from the courtroom. now, let me turn to you, charles, because one of carroll's facebook posts that tacopina pressed her on was from 2012, asking people whether they would have sex with trump for $17,000, and could keep their eyes closed during it. she said on the stand that she wrote this post because, quote, it is much better to laugh than cry. laughter picks up my spirit, she said. charles, what do you make of the introduction of that in this case? >> well, ana, it is something that joe tacopina has to bring in. it is one of those things that in the minds of the jurors is

going to be or seen as potentially inconsistent with the notion of being a victim of sexual assault. and i think that's what -- that's the purpose of bringing that material is, is to basically say, if you have been sexually assaulted or victimized by this person, then you would not have done these things. this does not speak to the behavior of someone who is traumatized or someone who has been victimized or is a survivor of sexual assault. now, whether that is true is not the question. the question is whether that is actually something that is going to resonate with any of the jurors. that's the real thing that joe tacopina is betting on. during his cross examination, he was extremely aggressive with this witness and so beyond his back and forth verbiage and banter with miss carroll, what he's trying to do is basically pull in independent things she did or said that are inconsistent with her being a survivor of sexual assault at the hands of former president donald trump. >> let's turn to another legal

fight for trump. his attorneys yesterday argued that the manhattan district attorney's request to prevent the former president from discussing evidence in that case, this is the hush money case, that it was extremely restrictive. what do you think the judge does with this? >> well, this is a very, very complicated question for a number of reasons. on one hand, the defense is basically saying that they want to have it both ways, they basically want to be able to have their client talk about whatever it is he wishes to talk about. at the same time, what they're not saying is this could potentially influence the trial in a way that could create an appealable issue, make it much more difficult to select a jury down the line. so those are the things that we have to be in consideration about if you're talking about that. on the other hand, however, the prosecution does have to deal with the fact that michael cohen, for example, as their star witness, has been extremely vocal about donald trump and potentially about the evidence in this case for a very long time. so, they also can't necessarily have it both ways either. you don't see this sort of thing

in a normal case, in normal criminal prosecution because most people don't have the level platform that either donald trump or michael cohen has enjoyed over the past few years. so the judge is in a very difficult spot because either side has legitimate arguments based on what has already happened, and what the judge is most concerned about doing in a case like this is preserving the integrity of the process so that there can be a fair and impartial jury that is minimally influenced by any conversation or discussion or dialogue that is going on outside of that trial in that courtroom. >> charles coleman, as always, thanks so much for sharing your expertise and insights. meantime, jury deliberations continue today in the seditious conspiracy trial of five members of the proud boys. this case is focused on the defendants' actions both before and after the january 6th siege on the capitol. the seditious conspiracy charge is the most serious. the whole slew of charges they're facing and it all stems from the capitol attack.

each of the defendants faces up to 20 years in prison if convicted. next for us on "ana cabrera reports," memorial day is around the corner. and that means summer travel season is almost upon us. how the faa is hoping to make air travel a little smoother for you this year. plus, with our eyes on the skies, there is another mysterious balloon the u.s. military is tracking. where it was spotted when we come back. where it was spotted when we come back. (vo) with verizon, you can now get a private 5g network. so you can do more than connect your business,

you can make it even smarter. now ports can know where every piece of cargo is. and where it's going. (dock worker) right on time. (vo) robots can predict breakdowns and order their own replacement parts. (foreman) nice work. (vo) and retailers can get ahead of the fashion trend of the day with a new line tomorrow. with a verizon private 5g network, you can get more agility and security. giving you more control of your business. we call this enterprise intelligence. from the network america relies on. [tap tap] my secret to beating sniff checks? secret dry spray. just spray and stay fresh all day. my turn. secret actually fights odor. and it's aluminum free. hours later, still fresh. secret works. i'm javi, i'm 31, and i'm a fitness instructor. i saw myself in a photograph. and we were all smiling, and i looked closer, and i was like that- that's what everybody sees? i'm back, and i got botox® cosmetic. the lines were so prominent it's all i saw in the photograph, so now when i take photos, and i see myself in photos,

its- it's me, i just have fewer lines. botox® cosmetic is fda-approved to temporarily make frown lines, crow's feet, and forehead lines look better. the effects of botox® cosmetic may spread hours to weeks after injection causing serious symptoms. alert your doctor right away, as difficulty swallowing, speaking, breathing, eye problems, or muscle weakness may be a sign of a life-threatening condition. do not receive botox® cosmetic if you have a skin infection. side effects may include allergic reactions, injection site pain, headache, eyebrow, eyelid drooping, and eyelid swelling. tell your doctor about your medical history. muscle or nerve conditions, and medications including botulinum toxins. as these may increase the risk of serious side effects. see for yourself at botoxcosmetic.com i struggled with cpap every night. but now that i got the inspire implant to treat my sleep apnea, i'm sleeping much better. in fact, it's making me think of doing other things i've been putting off. like removing that tattoo of your first wife's name. but your mom's name is vicky too! that's even worse.

( ♪♪ ) inspire. sleep apnea innovation. learn more and view important safety information at inspiresleep.com. the first time you made a sale online with godaddy was also the first time you heard of a town named dinosaur, colorado. we just got an order from dinosaur, colorado. start an easy to build, powerful website for free with a partner that always puts you first. start for free at godaddy.com (psst psst) ahhhh... with flonase, allergies don't have to be scary spraying flonase daily gives you long-lasting, non-drowsy relief. (psst psst) flonase. all good. this week is your chance to try any subway footlong for free. like the subway series menu.

just buy any footlong in the app, and get one free. everyone loves free stuff chuck. can we get peyton a footlong? get it before it's gone. on the subway app. ♪ the all-new chevy colorado is made for more. bring more. ♪ do more. ♪ see more. ♪ and be more. ♪ the all-new chevy colorado. made for more. ♪ one prilosec otc each morning blocks heartburn all day and all night. prilosec otc reduces excess acid for 24 hours, blocking heartburn before it starts. one pill a day. 24 hours. zero heartburn.

now to an nbc news exclusive report on yet another mysterious balloon that flew over american soil. nbc news learned that the military is tracking an object that flew across parts of hawaii. but apparently did not go over any sensitive areas, according to three u.s. officials. it comes, of course, after a chinese spy balloon flew across parts of the u.s. in february before being shot down off the coast of south carolina. nbc news pentagon correspondent courtney kube joins us with her reporting. courtney, what more can you tell us about this new balloon? >> well, u.s. military officials spotted it last friday off ball? >> u.s. officials spotted it off the coast of hawaii, and the military combatant command based in hawaii, when they first saw it on radar they set up jets to check it out, and they figured it had a payload on it but was not being driven, but it did not

have propulsion, just floating in the wind. they sent back an assessment that despite it was flying at 36,000 feet, which is similar to where commercial aviation flies, it did not present a direct threat to commercial aviation. u.s. military leaders sent a recommendation or assessment to lloyd austin that he concurred with not taking action against the balloon at this time. right now it's floating somewhere between hawaii and headed towards mexico. the officials we spoke with reinforced that despite the fact they decided not to take action at this time, but it's still possible as the balloon nears land, they could take action. i showed the chinese spy balloon, and the u.s. military took action by shooting it down as well as three other identified balloons after that

in quick succession. >> thank you for joining us. brace yourself for a busy summer travel season. but the faa says it has a plan to help keep the flights moving by launching new routes. 169 high-altitude routes are activated along the east coast, and they will make flights more direct and shave off time and save fuel for major airlines, and this is as airlines are struggling to keep up with passenger numbers. delta and united cut back on flights in certain areas to cut down on congestion and a shortage of air traffic controllers. up next, a new hope for diagnosing cancer faster, thanks to artificial intelligence. designed for heart failure. entresto is the #1 heart failure brand prescribed by cardiologists. it was proven superior at helping people stay alive

and out of the hospital. heart failure can change the structure of your heart, so it may not work as well. entresto helps improve your heart's ability to pump blood to the body. and with a healthier heart, you can keep on doing what you love. don't take entresto if pregnant; it can cause harm or death to an unborn baby. don't take entresto with an ace inhibitor or aliskiren, or if you've had angioedema with an ace or arb. the most serious side effects are angioedema, low blood pressure, kidney problems, or high blood potassium. ask your doctor about entresto for heart failure. entrust you heart to entresto

(music throughout) get the royal treatment. join the millions playing royal match today. download now. - booked our trip to vegas! - in this economy? what are we, rich?! ♪ ♪ are we rich? oh, what a relief. no more secretly renting the attic to that scary lodger that i met at the reservoir. - we're not rich...

i used kayak to compare hundreds of travel sites to get a great deal on our flight, car, and hotel. (loud rustling and clanking from the attic) - who goes to the reservoir?! - kayak. search one and done. if you wake up thinking about the market and want to make the right moves fast... get decision tech from fidelity. [ cellphone vibrates ] you'll get proactive alerts for market events before they happen... and insights on every buy and sell decision. with zero-commission online u.s. stock and etf trades. for smarter trading decisions, get decision tech from fidelity.

welcome back. so many of us wear devices like apple watches and fitbits these days -- guilty as charged.

a new study out today says these wearable devices could help some day monitor our mental health as well. the devices, by measuring things like heart rate, can be used to assess something like one's well-being and resilience. we go inside an operating room to see first happened how artificial intelligence is being used in brain cancer treatment. >> at 56 years old, george was living the american dream, a successful career in marketing, a happy marriage and a sweet black lab named charlie, but one year ago his life changed forever. >> you woke up and lost the feeling on one side of your body one morning. >> what was that like? >> i rushed to the hospital. >> we learned there was three

tumors, one in the back, and two other smaller tumors, and those were not able to be operated on. >> his brain surgeon told george he likely had the most deadly form of brain cancer. the average survival, just eight months. >> this really sucks. i don't want this. >> it took four long weeks before george could start treatment as the doctors waited for the tumor genetic test to come back. >> one of the statistics i found right away, the tumor could double in just 14 days. time was not in our favor. >> it really is hard for clinicians and patients, i think, to wrap their heads around that waiting period. >> now, using ground breaking artificial intelligence, a device was invented.

one study found that deep glimo was accurate. >> we are about to head into a real-life brain surgery where they are using a.i. >> you can image that and use the artificial intelligence to predict the genetics. >> i don't think i have ever seen a human brain before like that. >> it's magnificent. the texture feels abnormal, too, which is suspicious that there's tumor there. >> that's a piece of the brain that just came out. >> yeah, now we will run it, and this is a genetic forecast that the a.i. created that gives us a strong indication that what we are looking at here is it.

>> we can have a diagnosis in three minutes instead of three weeks. >> time is survival. time is quality of life. >> but for george, living with cancer every moment, precious. >> this disease is tough. on the other happened -- >> your spirit is still there. >> my spirit is still here and i will be okay, no matter what happens, i will be okay. >> such good news there in that report from the doctor. thank you for that. thank you so much for being with us here today. i am ana cabrera reporting in new york. josé diaz-balart starts right now. good morning, it's 11:00 a.m. eastern and 8:00 a.m. pacific. breaking this morning, the biden administration is consideri