leads to a slowdown in the economy. it could help solve the inflation problem but it could hit the jobs market. those are some of the questions i'm sure the fed chair will for sure face during his post-rate decision press conference tomorrow afternoon, stuff to watch for sure there. >> absolutely. thank you very much. that wraps up the hour for me. i'm jose diaz-balart. you can watch highlights from today's show online. i thank you for the privilege of your time. andrea mitchell picks up with more news right now. right now on "andrea mitchell reports," a june 1st deadline gets the white house to invite congressional leaders to a debt ceiling summit next week before the economy goes over the cliff. the treasury secretary warns the u.s. could default on its debt in less than a month. should the president start negotiating now? the budget committee's top

democrat, congressman brendan boyle joins me shortly. more than 11,000 film and television writers are on strike. they go on strike after talks over pay and job security in the face of new challenges from streaming and ai collapse overnight. what luke russert has learned about dealing with grief after the loss of his father tim. do you have advice for other millennials, other young people dealing with loss? >> it's never easy. i realize why there's this voice in my head speaking to me about discomfort or uncomfortable feelings. when i realized that was the processing of my father's death, that i had never fully done, once i turned to it, gave it the attention it needed, it made me a better person.

good day, everyone. i'm andrea mitchell in washington. the president and the speaker meet face to face for the first time in months over the debt ceiling next week, when house members return to washington as the markets are dropping today. they say the nation's cash will run out as early as june 1st if they don't raise the ceiling. both parties have spent this money. debts owed, debts due. the deficit and presidential politics are in play. house republicans and some democrats want deficit reduction, with combined debt ceiling and budget bill. the white house is rejecting all of that. this as inflation still looms. the fed decision's pending. markets falling. joining me now is kayla tusch and garrett haake.

why did the president extend the invitation now? how much did the warning from janet yellen play into it as well as fed decisions and worries about the economy, the possibility of recession and how delicate a soft landing is? >> i think that warning from secretary yellen had everything to do with the timing of this invitation, andrea. secretary yellen's last update on this so-called x date, the date after which the government could default and not pay its bills was in late january, and she said it at june 5th. officials said tax season was going to be critical. if the government made more money, then it could pay its bills longer and perhaps that june 5th date would be pushed out and there would be less urgency. that's not what happened. now the white house is on the clock. for the last three months, president biden has been challenging speaker mccarthy to find something his conference can agree on. he did that a few weeks ago,

even if ever so slightly with that one-vote margin. now it's up to democrats and the white house to find what they can agreed on and whether there are any portions of the gop package they could live with or if they are still going to go ahead with this parallel process and see what they can get out of that. >> garrett, how much pressure is the speaker under from far right members of his caucus to get concessions from the white house, which puts him in a bind to start compromising? >> reporter: he is under significant pressure. there were several far right republicans who said when the house debt bill was passed last week that they would vote for nothing less conservative than that measure, which is not the product of negotiation with anyone who doesn't have an r behind their name. it's a point that schumer made on the floor just this morning. >> speaker mccarthy has created a situation where he knowingly passed an extreme bill, has been boxed by his republican

colleagues into a corner and now has little room to maneuver. left he provoke the ire of the house freedom caucus. >> reporter: those are necessary. if there's a settlement between biden and house republicans, it could be made up with democratic votes, all of whom have been calling to lift the debt ceiling. it's that tricky word of negotiation and whether the white house is willing to engage in a back and forth on spending cuts in exchange for doing something that they believe needs to just get done in lifting the debt ceiling. >> let's talk about banking concerns lingering. pack west, western alliance having trading paused, even after the purchase that at least cleared the immediate problem.

>> jp morgan chase took over first republic. there may be one or two more smaller failures that could still happen. now what the market is doing is it's trying to look around and see, what might that faller failure be? what other banks could be the next shoe to drop? they are looking at banks with exposure to technology, commercial real estate, some sectors that have been plagued by economic trends and inflation and banks susceptible to what the reserve has been doing on rates. the fed is perhaps going to pursue its last interest rate hike. there's a focus on banks that haven't managed their interest rate risk well enough. this is the marketplacing bets -- market placing bets on the next shoe to drop. >> reporter: as i have been

standing here, hakeem jeffries sent a dear colleague letter out to his conference and it includes an escape hatch. democrats have instituted -- put in place a measure on a discharge petition. a way to good around the majority party, to go around the normal process of bringing something to the floor, which would allow democrats over an extended period of time -- we don't need go into all the process now -- an opportunity to raise the debt ceiling at the last moment without it being a bill put on the floor by republicans. this has been widely speculated about for months now. it's the first time we have heard from democratic house leadership saying they are triggering the start of a process that could give them an escape hatch should we need one at the 11th hour. >> the house is out of session. senator schumer did something similar on the senate side to start moving bills to the floor. >> reporter: yeah, that's right. he put a two-year suspension of

the debt limit -- rather a suspension through the end of next year on the senate calendar. just a way to speed up the process, make sure they don't get bogged in parliamentary problems if there is some negotiated solution at the very, very last moment. >> thank you both so much. joining us now is the top democrat on the house budget committee, brendan boyle of pennsylvania. we don't want to get into the process. bottom line is, there are few days left between now and june 1st when both houses are in session, both houses have to reach agreement on whether it's a short-term extension or a real debt ceiling bill or some compromise. some democrats are quietly joining republicans and pressing for the president to start negotiating. is it not time for the white house to begin compromising?

>> it's great to be back with you. while there may not be that many legislative session days scheduled between now and may 31st, raising the debt ceiling is one of those things unlike passing a budget bill, it's quite simple. it only takes a paragraph. you could pass it in a day. there's plenty of time between now and june 1st. in terms of negotiations, we democrats have been clear. when it comes to paying america's bills, there can be no negotiation on that. we have to pay our bills. we have to raise the debt ceiling. we have done it 103 times since 1940. the majority happened under republican presidents, by the way. in terms of future spending, we are happy to negotiate about that. frankly, we always have to negotiate about that, because government funding, regardless of the debt ceiling, will run out by midnight september 30th. this fairytale that kevin

mccarthy is weaving that democrats don't want to negotiate is just that, a fairytale. >> does the house bill passing, even though very small that it squeaked through, but the fact that he did pull his caucus together to get it passed, does that increase his leverage in the talks next week? >> you know, i really question that, frankly. one of the challenges we have had throughout this process on the debt ceiling is just how many side promises and side deal deals kevin mccarthy needed to make. that has an impediment throughout this. there's so many extreme maga members of his caucus that have been driving the train on this. it has made things more challenging. i don't think that has gone away just because kevin mccarthy was

finally able to win one substantive vote last week for the first time in four months of speakership. >> we have received a letter from elizabeth warren and others pressing chairman powell to pause interest rates rather than what is expected to be another 25 basis points. you signed on that. >> i did. >> do you agree the fed should back off now given all the other pressure? should you stay out of what the fed has to do to stop inflation? >> i co-hfco-led that letter wi senator warren. was happy to do so. i respect the independence of the fed. they are going to make that decision. but it doesn't preclude me or any other member of congress or any other citizen from pointing out the fed raised rates so steeply, so quickly that that is having a profound affect on our

economy. by their own measures, they are going to cause unemployment as a result of what they're doing, an increase in unemployment for which they have no real response. i believe a pause here is appropriate. we still, as we have been reminded today, don't know the full extent of the banking crisis. i think a pause would be a wise decision. we do not want to have a mistake of going so extreme in the rate hikes that we end up bringing about a recession. it's completely unnecessary. >> should the president consider unilateral options like the 14th amendment or minting a platinum coin if we get close to the deadline and congress hasn't acted? >> the reality is, i don't think that would be widely accepted by international markets. i think that if the president had to resort to that, you would frankly still see a great deal of damage, almost as much damage as if we defaulted in the first

place. really, it's just time for congress to do its job. you have myself and more than 200 house democrats who believe that we should raise the debt ceiling now. we should put it clean on the house floor to ensure that we pay america's bills for spending decisions made many times many years in the past. then we can move on to discussions about what next year's spending looks like and the years beyond. >> congressman boyle from pennsylvania, thanks for being with us. more breaking news from the proud boys trial here in washington where jurors sent the judge a note. all we know coming up live from the courthouse when "andrea mitchell reports" returns in 60 seconds. stay with us. you are watching msnbc. helping businesses both large and small, communities and the people who live and work there

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washington, d.c., developments in the historic trial of five members of the far right proud boys group, all charged with is a seditious conspiracy. joining us now is ryan reilly who has been covering the trial and joyce vance. in looking at our notes today -- because we haven't been following it as closely as you -- this started with jury selection on january 12th. this has been a lengthy, complicated trial. a lot of charges. the most serious is seditious conspiracy. what happened today? >> reporter: opening arguments began in january. it has been a very lengthy process that has gotten us here more than 60 days of the trial and then deliberations began last wednesday. they have gotten in the equivalent of three days of full days of deliberation. we have a note back from the jury. in the process of figuring out

what to do with that note, they sent another note. as the judge noted, there's a diligent jury. if you didn't know that there was a lawyer who is a part of the jury, you would probably assume that based on the level of detailed questions they are asking here. they asked -- they wanted instruction on the conspiracy counts and what the elements of that charge were. then they also asked what they should do if they do deadlock on something, if they reach that. you have an instruction that comes back to the jury that -- about trying this again. joyce can go into more detail on what that note will say. i think that's what we can expect out of this. they will clarify the language of the indictment and what the elements are. they will send them back and say, if you reach an impasse, keep working on it. >> joyce, you are the law professor.

talk to us about this so-called allen charge, which is a last-ditch effort to avoid a mistrial, telling them how serious it is but without going too far. >> right. prosecutors call this a dynamite charge. it's the last-ditch effort a judge will use if a jury appears deadlocked. this jury doesn't look deadlocked. they have five defendants, multiple charges. they are working through methodically. they may have something where they are stumbling. the judge will bring them in and say, this can be difficult, but please continue to look at the evidence, consider the views of your fellow jury members, do not give up any of your sincerely held beliefs but see if you can reach a compromise. if that doesn't work and the jury advises the judge they are deadlocked, we will probably see a formal allen charge. the judge has to be careful. the judge has to be clear that they are not trying to bias the

jury, prejudice the jury, ask them to give up closely held beliefs just to reach a verdict. but it can remind them that they should consider each other's views and look at the evidence, because there's no reason to believe that another jury would reach a better result than this jury would. very often that will be successful. sometimes juries will hang on some of the charges. >> thanks so much to joyce vance. i can't think of two better ways to understand this than joyce and ryan. thank you both. hollywood writers taking to the picket line after negotiations fail overnight. what it means for your favorite shows, coming up next. love and loss. my conversation with my friend luke russert about how he learned to live after the death of his father, former "meet the press" moderator tim russert nearly 15 years ago.

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more than 11,000 film and television writers are out on strike today for the first time in 15 years. they called a strike after negotiators were not able to reach a deal with the studios and streamers. writers say many are making less than they did more than a decade ago because of how streaming changed their industry. >> we are asking for a livable

wage and for our jobs to be protected. >> hosts like seth meyers, who is also a writer, is voicing concern and solidarity. >> i feel strongly that what the writers are asking for is not unreasonable. >> we should note that comcast, which owns our parent company nbc universal, is one of the companies represented by the alliance of motion picture and television producers. marissa, what are the sticking points? >> reporter: we know from the very beginning that what writers have been asking for is an increase in pay. we know a large part of that is because of the new world of streaming. we can get into that in a little bit. what we know about the negotiations last night, they broke down. here are the major reasons why. according to both sides. the sticking points, they couldn't get past.

the writers were asking for studios to guarantee a minimum number of weeks of writing. they couldn't move past ai, artificial intelligence. writers were looking for some sort of assurance for job security that robots aren't one day going to take their jobs. that's something that studios clearly were not willing to promise. >> marissa, do you have a statement from the wga? >> reporter: yes. both sides have come out with their own statements. of course, they are pinning blame on each other and wording it in their own way. wga has said, not just public by but in a letter to their members, they said that the behavior by the studios has created a, quote, gig economy in a union workforce. they say their movable stance has betrayed a commitment to further devaling the profession

of writing. part of that does point to the concerns over artificial intelligence moving into their space. then, of course, the alliance for the studios had their own statement. they said they presented a comprehensive package proposal. they said it had generous increases in compensation for writers. they said they are willing to engage in discussions in an effort to break this logjam. one thing, reading between the lines, we know that deadline was 11:59 p.m., and it was announced hours before that that they were not going to reach an agreement. clearly, negotiations broke down. this is something that clearly was a pretty contentious scene behind the scenes in that room. >> we are likely to see the effects right away, if they don't resolve it. thank you so much. the manhunt. day four, hundreds of local, state and federal law enforcement search for a mass shooting suspect with no clues, in texas. this is "andrea mitchell

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a houston community is terrified as a suspected mass killer remains at large for a fourth day despite hundreds on the hunt. several tips monday turned cold in the search. he is accused of executing five neighbors, including a mother and her 9-year-old son, inside their home friday night after a routine noise complaint. priscilla thompson has been in cleveland, texas, and has spoken with the grieving father. you have done some extraordinary reporting. the father gave you chilling details about what he says was a

lengthy delay between his re911 calls and the sheriff's deputies showing up. . he said he called five typ ztimd it took 20 minutes for help to arrive. we don't know how many of those calls were about the suspect threatening him with the gun and how many came in after the shooting started happening. he did tell me he initially called because the suspect was threatening him with that gun. the sheriff did talk about this a little bit over the weekend. he said that initially the calls were about harassment and that when they began to get calls about a shooting, that's when they upped the priority of the calls and deputies rushed over. to give you a bit of context, this is a very rural area. the sheriff telling the associated press he has three deputies that monitor this whole 700 square mile area. i will tell you that the sheriff's office is about 30 minutes from this crime scene

where this occurred. so there are questions about the response time as this manhunt enters day four. i have had an opportunity to speak with residents about how they feel with this alleged murderer on the loose. i want to play what one person shared with me. >> i think that he is afraid. i think he is scared. i think he don't know what to do. i think anyone who has the courage to kill someone, especially kids, would kill again. i think that's the fear, it's a real fear. >> reporter: the fbi, who is leading this investigation, says they are leaving no stone unturned. we saw them yesterday swarming several areas where there had been suspected sightings. the suspect does still remain at large. i did speak to the father of that young boy, wilson garcia. i asked him what his message is to the killer. he begged him to turn himself in saying that he did not want

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the supreme court is under the microscope today, as the senate judiciary committee holds a rare hearing into trying to force the high court to obey common place ethics standards. the hearing was sparked by revelations about justices receiving all expense paid vacations and real estate deals, presenting apparent conflicts of interest. >> it's critical to our democracy that the american people have confidence that judges cannot be bought or influenced and that they are serving the public interest, not their own personal interests. >> not only is this democratic proposal unconstitutional, it's unnecessary. the attacks on conservative justices are targeted. they are exaggerated. the alarmism is affected. >> most significant of all was who was not at the hearing, none

of the justices. they invited john roberts to attend. he declined. joining me now is yamiche alcindor and ruth markus, an attorney as well. we should point out the republican pushback is partly or primary because most of the criticism is on clarence thomas. instead of attending today's hearing, justice roberts sent a letter. in essence, the justices police themselves. no other court, including the appeals courts, no other court rules itself. >> that's right. looking into this, you have district and appeals court judges who are bound by a code of ethics. the supreme court has not adopted its own code of ethics. this is what democrats mostly are pushing for, to say why don't you put something on paper

and say, here is what we're going to abide by? especially in a moment like this where so many americans, mainly in this moment democrats because of the roe decision, but some others see them doing the work of politicians. it was interesting. it did feel like a run of the mill hearing that you hear on capitol hill because democrats were on one side saying, let's just ask the question, let's see if there's a code of ethics. you had republicans in a corner defending the justices. in particular, as you said, none were testifying, but at one point a republican senator played video of clarence thomas talking about anita hill and the fact that he felt like during his confirmation hearing there was that high-tech lynching, using the famous moment. it does tell you that while justices aren't actually there, republicans wanted their voices to be heard and wanted them to really defend themselves in that interesting way. >> that takes us back, ruth.

you and i covered the 1991 hearings of clarence thomas versus anita hill from an all-male judiciary committee. a highly regarded conservative former federal appeals court judge, advised mike pence on his limited role in voting the electoral votes, he was invited to the hearing. he wrote this -- ruth, we focus on clarence thomas because of the revelations that harlan crow, a prominent billionaire republican contributor, friend of clarence thomas, bought his mother's house, renovated it in addition

to supporting clarence thomas in around the world trips, without any disclosure on his disclosure forms. >> in a serious world, that story would have prompted two things. it would have prompted soul searches among the justices about whether they are doing enough to make sure that their behavior is -- he was almost justice ludig, as judge ludig said, whether their behavior was up to the proper standards. if not, what they needed to do about it. it also would have sparked -- this is an imaginary world i'm talking about. a bipartisan conversation among members of the judiciary about what role they can and should play in getting there. instead, we have this, i guess, predictable and still quite

astonishing replay of high-tech lynching, including as yamiche said the actual replay of the video. at least two of the republican senators mentioned that phrase, high-tech lynching. this is all so really disturbing, because i think any reasonable person reading the facts of the story involving justice thomas and harlan crow would stop and say, hey, what's going on here, are things -- this doesn't look right to take so much from one person. we are not capable of looking at that without assigning political animus. i think that's true on both sides. >> merrick garland, almost made it to the court, but then he was nominated and never got a hearing, because of republican machinations led by mitch mcconnell, garland was asked, as

a former judge, how does he feel about the supreme court having no requirements. >> well, as you know me well enough by now, i'm not going to be able to commend on that kind of a question. as a general matter, as a federal judge, i have always believed that the judiciary should follow and be held to the highest ethical standards. that continues to be my belief. >> yamiche, he was on the court right below the supreme court, sort of a launch pad where justice kavanaugh served, scalia, ginsburg. it was from that platform that he never even got a hearing. >> it was. the story of merrick garland is, i think, going to be one there's for the history books. so many democrats feel as though roe would not have happened if garland was able to get on the court and if president obama had been given a fair shot to put a supreme court justice on the

court. that being said, you see garland now, of course, as the attorney general, being very, very careful, because he does not want to weigh in on the supreme court debacle, that's one way to put it. he also wants to say, judges should be ethical. the fact that he went that little step further to say that continues to be my stance tells you this is something that he is at least concerned about or at least wants to be heard about on a day like today where you hear lawmakers really question whether or not the supreme court could do more to hold themselves accountable. i should say, even for people who were critical of the supreme court, they were saying, we can't say whether or not justices have been bought. we can say they should put something in writing and have a code of ethics. that's interesting and important to note. >> i want to read something from a legal scholar, a harvard professor in a letter to congress. should not be intimidated by the

power and prestige of the justices. i don't know if he was one of your professors at harvard. i know him well. it is true that being a justice of the supreme court is just the highest pinnacle that any lawyer can reach. it's also true, i think, that justices are people, too. they earn what sounds like a very cushy salary. they have advocates coming to them who earn in the millions of dollars. i think there's a little bit of a degree of resentment that goes on there among some of the justices and a why not accept a little of the hospitality or free trips or whatever. i want to say, i'm a very big believer in justices making

themselves available to speak to students, to speak to law associations, to speak to bar conferences and everything else. i do not begrudge them my summertime trips. i wish i could get the summer off, also. but i think they need to be conscious of how it looks to outsiders, what their disclosures are and to really seriously question -- we just see no indication from outside that marble palace that that's what's going on. >> yamiche and ruth, thanks. my candidate with luke russert about life, loss and finding himself after the sudden death of his father. you are watching "andrea mitchell reports" only on msnbc. . . so you can do more than connect your business, you can make it even smarter. now ports can know where every piece of cargo is. and where it's going. (dock worker) right on time. (vo) robots can predict breakdowns and order their own replacement parts. (foreman) nice work. (vo) and retailers can get ahead of the fashion trend

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i think it was a big mistake. it was a pump fake. >> classic luke russert. you get them to answer your questions. as long as i have known you, you have been tearing up the hill. that was was congressional correspondent luke russert in his last appearance on this broadcast nearly seven years ago. i've known luke for most of his life, our story started when he was 3 years old, when his father moved from 30 rock to be our bureau chief. he would sign off from the white

house or capitol hill, but next month on june 13th, 15 years ago, it was the friday before father's day, when tim suffered a heart attack on the job while preparing for "meet the press" in our washington bureau. breaking all of our hearts, devastating his wife and son. luke was then only 22 years old, he had just graduated from college weeks before. without time to confront his own grief, nbc saw his obvious talent and offered him the chance to become a youth correspondent for this network. years later at the height of the 2016 presidential campaigns and his own success covering capitol hill by then, it all caught up with him. he left it all behind, jokingly calling it his retirement. as he set off, finally, to face his loss. in his new memoir out today, "look for me there," luke spent months visiting more than 60 countries, trying to find his own path.

so the title of your book is "look for me there." >> yeah. >> and that represents what your dad used to say to you in case you got separated at an orioles game. it represents that he would always be there for you. >> i was trying to come up for the title for the book, i kept thinking about what is a phrase that would be the encapsulation of our relationship and there is strong love, there is strong devotion, but more than anything there is this dependability and loyalty i was always looking for, i always could find in him. and then i went out in the world trying to find it and ultimately went back to just processing the loss of missing dad. >> so, he was always there for you. >> yeah. >> and suddenly when you couldn't possibly have expected it, he wasn't. >> when i got the call, it was eerie. i assumed to hear him on the other end of the line.

and it wasn't. it was his assistant saying your father fainted. i knew right away something was seriously wrong because tim russert didn't faint and the horrific news was confirmed and everything went into a roll after that. at a very young age, to a point where i don't think i was able to process it at the time, for some years afterwards. >> you were enormously successful. >> yeah. >> as a young correspondent at nbc. you were -- you had the dna of a great writer, you knew politics. you were really good at that. how did you walk away from it and why in. >> i had this chance encounter in a conversation with john boehner of all people, the speaker of the house -- >> he called you into his office. >> yes. >> in a really fatherly way. extraordinary. >> he sits me down and asks me what are you doing here? i said, you invited me here. he said, no, what are you doing here. you can spend decades here on

capitol hill and washington, d.c. and never see the rest of the country and never see the rest of the world. you have a great thing going here, but it might not be a bad idea for you to think about doing something else. and it was almost one of those questions that jesuits ask, who are we and why are we here? to have the most powerful person in the building to say there is more to life than this, might not be a bad idea to check it out, it made a deep impact on me and sort of started to turn those wheels about possibly doing something else. >> at first you thought you were going to be gone six months, eight months. >> yeah. i thought it was six months to a year and i wanted to go to latin america where my mom was a peace corps volunteer in her 20s, and she had always said to me, my entire life, you need to travel, you need to travel, that's how you understand yourself. some of the first trips with her actually she gave me a sort of lay of the land, if you will. and it was addictive because i realized in the small villages

and in all parts of latin america, and also parts of the world, no one cared what my last name was, no one cared about my back story. it was present yourself as the best human you can be and soak up other cultures like a sponge and understand things about the world and ultimately yourself. >> you're learning about other places. but you're learning about yourself. >> i started to realize there was this odd connective tissue where i was searching for something. i was trying to find something, whether it was this clarity or whether it was this a-ha moment of what is your purpose, what have you, luke, removed from your hometown, independent of your parents, what do you want to do, what you all about. when i came to realize when i was in these far flung locations is a lot of that had been stunted because i missed my dad so much. and i was trying to live up to what i thought his legacy was or what maybe he would want. and never actually taking the time to look inward to say, all right, what do you want.

>> you have a verse from luke tattooed on your inner arm, to whom much is given, much is expected. what does that mean to you? >> that was something my father always instilled in me. that was born out of my grandfather, which was garbage man, south buffalo, worked two jobs, no one feels sorry for someone who has been given a lot, no one feels sorry for someone who seemingly has opportunity but then feels lost. and i think i had to reconcile that a little bit, which was you have been given these gifts, you have been given these blessings, where do you see yourself within them and i struggle with that for a long time. and the book for me was figuring out a lot of that and seeing luke 12:48 is not something to be fearful of, but something to understand and something to hold on to. and every time i look at it, i can hear my father's voice and how he would say it. it is a welcome reminder.

>> you end the book in jerusalem. >> yeah. >> and how did your faith help you heal and help you deal with loss? >> i had this voice in my head that said, you got to go to the holy land, maybe the book will end where everything else started, but you got to go there, this nagging voice. i said i'll go to the holy land. >> you found a yarmulke. >> at the time of the night when all the other shops were closed, it was a sign. after that, i was at great peace and what i like to say to folks is i'm still a work in progress, as far as everything that pertains to my dad, i'm very much at peace with that. i miss him every day and love him but i know he's here with me and watching over me and i know his happy for me. >> and you're your own man. >> i'm my own man. my father was very risk averse, and one of the things that i

learned throughout this journey was that i'm actually probably more similar to my mom on that front. he grew closer as a result of the travel because i understood her for the first time. the father/son relationship is very unique. there is a lot of machismo, a lot of male bonding, often over sports and sometimes, especially in a family with an only child, mom would get not cut out completely, but the boys were sort of a unit, right? and when my father passed, my relationship with my mom obviously changed. >> talking about that male bonding. >> yeah. >> is this the kind of place, did you and your dad come to this tavern? >> maybe once or twice. >> when you got the book, you went to the grave site to share with him. >> it marked not only the end of this journey as it was put into this book, but it brought me a deep sense of peace, which was,

you know, dad, all those nights, those lonely nights writing and here it is, i love you. and i'm so happy i going to share that moment with him. i really am. >> we saw the rainbow at the kennedy center at the memorial for your dad. it was just breathtaking. >> so they asked us what songs do you want to hear at the kennedy center during this celebration of life. and one of them was "somewhere over the rainbow," my father loved that song. as we're walking out of the kennedy center, the song is playing, and a friend of mine goes, check outside, my goodness, i run out there, and there is this huge rainbow. and it just stopped me dead in my tracks. and it was emotional. but it is so comforting. and every time i see a rainbow, i sort of wave, like, hi, and i would see these rainbows all around the world, i would see them in new zealand, in iceland, in all these places.

and that became a real source of comfort for me, that maybe it is him saying hi or it brings me back to that moment of the day of his funeral where things were really hard. and there was such an emotional journey, but that rainbow centered everything and was, look for me there, here i am, hi. >> my thanks to the iconic martins tavern in georgetown where you heard luke went with his father. the book is "look for me there" out today. and to luke and maureen, no matter where you are in the world, you are always part of the nbc family. that does it for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports." follow the show online on facebook and on twitter at mitchell reports. lindsey reiser is in for "chris jansing reports" right now. good day, everybody. i'm lindsey reiser in for chris