strike is not eminent. still, the biggest variable for all airlines year-round, the weather. >> if we get a thunderstorm on the east coast, particularly in new york or atlanta, it's going to have a much larger impact with the number of aircraft that are going to be affected by that. >> reporter: tom costello, nbc news. and we have a lot to cover in our second hour of "chris jansing reports." let's get right to it. ♪♪ at this hour, a blinding dust storm. at least six people are dead, 37 injured after an out of nowhere dust storm hit an illinois highway. plus, the debt limit showdown. the u.s. may run out of money much sooner than expected and now one senator warns he is sick and tired of the drama. and nine days away from the end of title 42, the biden administration now confirming it will be sending u.s. troops to the southern border. we'll be watching for the latest comments out of the department

of defense and their briefing expected to start any minute now. plus, texas governor greg abbott's plan to handle the impending crisis, promising to keep bussing migrants to democratic cities. we're following the latest developments here. let's bring in julia ainsley who is following this story closely now with the white house confirming the biden administration will be sending active duty troops to the southern border. what do we know from the administration? >> well, lindsey, we know this plan has hardened up quickly. they were weighing it over the weekend and just now, we know there's about to be an announcement. they'll be sending 1500 active duty troops in addition to the 2500 men and women from the national guard already stationed at the border. that will bring them to 4,000 which is still lower than the more than 5500 active duty troops the trump administration sent to the border. these troops will not be

interacting with migrants one-on-one. they won't be arresting them. they won't be taking their information. they will be helping border patrol. a lot of times, they'll be doing backup, filling in in places where border patrol might be with processing, with places along the border, at checkpoints, maybe help reinforce some of the barriers that are already on the border to basically give border patrol the ability to have more one-on-one interaction to allow them to go to the front lines. these numbers, lindsey, are probably going to be record highs. we know that we've already seen sometimes as many as 8,000 to 9,000 migrants cross a day. the peak highs of this administration and those records, we're now expecting more than 10,000 a day for about the next 60 to 90 days and that's how long we expect these troops to be in place. it's a 90-day employ request. and they'll assess and look at the numbers when they decide whether or not they should stay longer. >> thank you so much. we're monitoring this briefing. we'll bring you the latest. now to natasha covering the

growing migrant crisis in chicago which the city's mayor says has reached a critical tipping point. the chicago mayor is asking greg abbott to stop bussing migrants to her city calling his actions inhumane and dangerous. how is abbott responding? >> what he's saying is, don't talk to me. talk to president biden who he blames for an untenable situation on the border. again, sending -- what they're expecting are thousands, perhaps tens of tho a week and he's saying, this is what we need to do in texas to keep the situation under control. and that is to fly or bus migrants from the border to places like chicago. now, chicago is not nearly dealing with the numbers that texas is dealing with. but chicago is overwhelmed. there are migrants right now in

police stations here. there's nowhere to put them. they're running out of space as it is -- and this is before title 42's expulsions are reversed. the mayor was essentially saying, please stop doing this and abbott said, no, we will absolutely not stop. talk to the white house. >> also isn't mayor lightfoot saying, look, texas border states, they have more federal resources that illinois is not getting? >> absolutely. that is her point, one of her biggest point, that there's a funding mechanism that follows each one of these immigrants who are coming over the border. chicago does not receive those federal -- that federal funding. that's essentially blowing up budgets here right now. the state is stretched, the city is stretched and they're trying to do what they're able to do, all these human services organizations, they're all stretched and they're asking for help. actually, we also reported recently that lori lightfoot

went to the white house on april 20th and said, hey, i need help. i need some of this -- these federal resources directed to chicago. if these migrants are coming to chicago, then that money should follow us. and that was her pushback to abbott. you're getting federal resources for this. funding mechanisms that can help house these people, feed these people, find respite for them. and chicago does not receive that right now. that's what lori lightfoot is trying to change. >> thank you. senate majority leader chuck schumer is diving into the fight over the debt limit. garrett haake joins me now. can you give me a big picture strategy of how senate democrats think they can influence this fight. >> reporter: democrats are hoping that they can continue to highlight what they believe are the unpopular provisions in the bill to try to make it seem like an unreasonable option here at a

time when we know the clock has only about 30 days left on it to raise the debt ceiling. schumer laid out a plan to hold hearings on the republican bill. the problem is, neither can the clean debt ceiling lift through next year that schumer would like to see passed. we're left in a situation where all eyes are on president biden and speaker mccarthy as the primary negotiators moving forward. and as they prepare to perhaps negotiate or talk without calling it a negotiation a week from now, at least one democratic senator is already saying enough is enough. here's joe manchin earlier today. >> we are not going to default. i don't think anybody would believe that we're going to default. but drama that goes with it and the closer we get to the line, the more damage of uncertainty will happen to the economy and hurt the markets. and people don't need anymore

challenges than we have already. i would hope commonsense would prevail. people are sick and tired of the drama. let's just do our job. >> reporter: we have never had a debt default by the federal government in this country, but we've had a lot of the walks right up to the edge of the cliff. and i can tell you from previous instances, the party that stays most united tends to be the one that wins out in the end. that's one dramatic i'll be watching for over the next 30 days. >> thank you. a blinding dust storm in illinois is now responsible for at least six deaths and has landed 37 people in the hospital, including a 2-year-old. shaq brewster is live from chicago. how did this happen and how are conditions today? >> reporter: we heard from officials earlier today and they're explaining multiple factors for the crash, the pileup that you ultimately saw. one being the heavy winds in the area whipping up the dirt from

the farms surrounding the highway. that leading to blinding conditions. you're looking at some of those conditions right now on your screen. in all, six people were killed. more than 36 people transported to the hospital, including one person who was actually airlifted to the hospital and the past hour or so, we learned that 25 people have been discharged from the hospital at this point. but in that press conference we heard earlier today, you got a sense of the extent of the devastation on that two-mile stretch of highway. illinois state police saying that work is not done. they're still trying to identify two of the six victims. listen here. >> it was a terrible day here in this part of the state and for the families that were affected by this and we'll continue to keep them at the center of our hearts as we -- our love goes out to them. as we do the job that we need to do here to identify the remains of these last two individuals. >> reporter: and they're now

asking members of the public to help identify the remains of those two individuals. they're saying one of them was driving a blue chrysler 300. the other was trying a hyundai. but just to get a sense of the devastation that existed on that highway, they don't know the model of that hyundai. they don't even know the color of that vehicle. they don't know the gender of either one of those two victims. they're saying to members of the public, if you know someone who was drivin any one of those vehicles in that area at the time yesterday, make a call to illinois state police. it's a really horrific scene that you see there and more families that are going to be grieving once they get that notification, lindsey. >> horrific and so sad. thank you. the battle for control of the senate, the possible new challenge to texas senator ted cruz. and why a reliably blue seat may become more competitive this time. you're watching "chris jansing reports." we'll be back in 60 seconds. ba.

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right now two, 2024 senate races are already heating up. in maryland, focus is on whether larry hogan will make a bid for ben cardin's seat. cardin just announced his retirement leaving his seat open for the first time since 2006. and the texas tribune reports that texas senator ted cruz is expected to face a challenge from colin allred. we're on capitol hill. with me is jennifer palmeri. what are you hearing about who may want to run for senator cardin's seat? >> reporter: the news is still fresh, but on a capitol hill a number of names are being talked

about. the one getting the most attention is congressman jamie raskin. he represents a district in the d.c. suburbs of maryland. he's a rising star in the democratic party. served as a trump impeachment manager after january 6th. served on the january 6th select committee. he's now the ranking democrat on the oversight committee. these are the kinds of notes that help in a deep blue state like maryland. he's also a very prolific fund raiser, raising more than half a million dollars just in the first few months of this year. that's highly unusual for a house member. another name being floated is congressman david trone. he served a few terms. serves in a swing district that stretches through the northern parts of maryland. he's independently wealthy and shown a willingness to spend a lot of money races in congress. on the republican side, there's one name, and that is former governor larry hogan. he's the moderate-ish republican

candidate who is known to defy the deep blue headwinds of a state like maryland. he won two terms. he was an attempted recruit for the senate republican campaign committee in maryland. chose not to run. maybe an open seat this time could affect his decision. bottom line, there are a lot of difficult seats that democrats are defending in five states next year for the senate map and three seats that they're defending in very, very difficult states. this should be an easy hold for democrats. if they have to spend money in a state like maryland, that's the kind of headache that democrats want to avoid. >> does larry hogan who was a potential presidential contender, does he change things? >> he can. that's my state. that's where i vote. he was a popular republican governor. part of the reason he was popular is because he was seen

as an anti-trump republican. if you're running against -- we'll see who ends up running on the democratic side. but somebody like jamie raskin who maryland voters are good voters. they worry a lot about democracy. but larry hogan is popular. gubernatorial races are different than senate races. democrats might be willing to vote for larry hogan because it doesn't affect control of the united states senate. but maryland is a very blue state. in a senate race, it's going to be a higher bar that larry hogan would have to meet to win over independents and democrats if people are worried about the senate going to republican control. >> interesting. let's go to texas here. i mean, when we have all red here potentially mounting a campaign against cruz. beto came close in 2018, but close is not a senate seat. >> and it's a texas -- texas is

a very conservative state. a lot of times we think about austin and houston and dallas. these are blue dots in a very conservative state. look at the voting rights laws that they've passed, abortion laws. colin allred is a moderate democrat. beto o'rourke was more progressive, ran on a progressive agenda, colin allred was a former nfl star. that -- there's appeal beyond politics. he's a good candidate. he has a house seat right now, has run tough races. it's a presidential year. that's tough for democrats in texas. i think ted cruz would probably prefer allred be the democratic nominee. >> thank you. as i mentioned, we have been monitoring the briefing right now with the department of defense as we look to troops being sent to the southern border. taking questions right now about when those soldiers could get there, will they be active duty,

national guard. let's listen in. >> yeah, thanks. so on your first question right now, i think we'll see these troops arrive as early as may 10 and then in the coming weeks. again, these will be active duty forces. although as i mentioned at the top, we continue to explore other options so that we could return those active duty forces back to their home stations in stride with potentially reverse component or contracted entities. again, that's work that will continue to do. as far as quarterly reports, i'll have to take that question for you. i can tell you that, you know, as a matter of course, we do regularly communicate with the dhs and i think, again, we're in a situation here where dhs has requested assistance and the department of defense is assisting on this important issue. thank you. >> is it -- i'm sorry.

is it -- are you saying just for clarification that within this 90-day period. >> correct. >> you would like to replace or you will look at replacing some of these active duty troops with national guard or reserve or potentially beyond that. >> exactly. within that 90-day period. again, we are -- secretary austin has approved the deployment of 1500 active duty troops. again, we are looking and evaluating options should we be able to replace those in stride. jen and we'll go to will. >> thank you, general. so just which units will these troops be coming from? and will they be helping with drug enforcement? because that's what the original executive order from the president said. >> yes. in terms of the type of work that they'll be doing as i highlighted at the top, these will be very much focused on support tasks to cbp.

i'll just leave it at that. i mean what i said. in terms of the specific units, these forces will come from the army and the u.s. marine corps, but i would refer you to the services to talk about specific units that will be tasked. >> reporter: in 2018 just before the midterm elections, president trump ordered 5,200 u.s. troops to fortify the border. at the time democrats and former military officials and officers came out against that saying they were being used for political reasons. how is this different? >> yeah, so, you know, really my focus here is on talking about what we've been asked to do and what we're doing. clearly dhs felt there was a need for the department of defense to assist so they can continue to do their important work. secretary austin approved that request. that's what we're focused on. thank you. will? >> reporter: thank you. two questions on the border

situation. first, what is the current number of troops who are there prior to the 1500 being deployed and what necessitated this additional deployment now? is it the changes coming up on may 11th? >> that's right, in light of the changes on may 11th, dhs reached out and requested this support. in terms of the number of u.s. military that are there now, there are approximately 2500 u.s. military who are national guard forces. they are focused again on supporting cpd with detection and monitoring and aviation support. >> a couple nonborder questions. ukraine, are there any pdas -- >> all right, everybody. we have been listening to a pentagon briefing here about additional troops that will go to the southern border to deal with the end of title 42 and an expected surge of migrants entering the u.s.

i want to bring in julia ainsley who originally broke this story for nbc news. julia, a little bit more information about the fact that they're active duty, they will be there momentarily. this isn't a long-term mission here. but we did hear secretary mayorkas just tell chuck todd, we need resources. is this the answer to that? >> it's not the full answer. it's not what secretary mayorkas wants and it's not dhs has told the white house they need. as we reported last week, dhs says they're in the hole $3 billion. that's more money they want to cbp and to ice like building new processing centers, moving migrants from one place to another. they worry without that funding, they're going to have massive backlogs and those processing facilities and they may have to release some migrants on the streets before shelters are ready and equipped to take them in. we've also spoken to a lot of local officials who say they still need money to be paid back to them by the federal government for what they've done

to take care of migrants in their cities. certainly doesn't take care of the funding needs. certainly doesn't take care of the personnel needs and we could still see a lot of backups along the border. i think this is what the administration can do within its power. i'm still looking for a little more detail on exactly what these people will be doing. there's a massive surge down to arizona in about 2018. i went down there and i saw a lot of the troops there sitting around because the surge didn't go in that direction. they put a lot of manpower behind that. that was more trump trying to show strength. i don't think that's what's happening in this case. but we need to know how these men and women will be supporting cbp if they can't even interact with migrants. >> it's interesting that you say that. both d.o.d. and dhs has released statements and they said that these people are not going to be filling a law enforcement role. they will be doing detection and monitoring, data entry, warehouse support. i was wondering what that means. it's unclear to you as well. >> yeah, it seems like it has to

do more with the jobs that cbp would do to take them away from the front lines. taking information, doing arrests and basically putting their hands on them to decide where that go next, whether that be from the field into a processing center and out to a shelter and they don't want d.o.d. involved in that at all. sure, trying to get supplies out. they could be involved in data entry, trying to figure out where more migrants are coming versus others. it's trying to free up customs and border patrol will respond to lot of first aid calls. someone might have fall frn one of those walls put in place by the trump administration. cbp responds to that too. >> that is a life-threatening journey that they are

undertaking in grueling conditions. thank you for joining us on that breaking news. still to come, a mystery in oklahoma after seven bodies were found. we'll get the latest, including what authorities are looking for now and what legal questions they could have. plus the fed could raise rates again this week. but this rate hike could be signaling some good news. i'll tell you what that is after the break. you're watching "chris jansing reports" only on msnbc. lt it's amazing! hydrates better than the expensive stuff i don't live here, so i'm taking this and whatever's in the back. it's already sold in the us. but i'm not taking any chances. the uk's #1 skincare has crossed the pond. (vo) verizon small business days are back. april 27th through may 3rd. the uk's #1 skincare get a free tech check and special offers. like a free 5g phone. get started today with verizon business. it's your business. it's your verizon. there's a different way to treat hiv. it's every-other-month, injectable cabenuva.

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. questions are being asked today in rural oklahoma after seven bodies were found during a search for two missing teens and a convicted sex offender they were believed to be traveling with. the local school district said it was grieving over the tragedy of the loss of several of our students. so far identities of the bodies haven't been confirmed. i'm joined now by vaughn hillyard and a criminal defense attorney and an msnbc legal analyst. vaughn, first to you, what can you tell us? >> the details of who these victims are grim. we're talking about seven individuals who authorities say were found dead at this property in this rural eastern oklahoma community. one of those individuals is believed to be the 39-year-old convicted felon. jesse mcfadden served 17 years in prison when he was convicted of first degree rape back in 2003. he was released.

two of these women who were found at the property are 14-year-old ivy webster and 16-year-old brittany brewer. in the early hours of yesterday morning, authorities put out missing persons alert indicating that they believed these two young teenagers to be with jesse mcfadden. now there's four other individuals as well. that being according to a grandmother in oklahoma, her 35-year-old daughter and three of her grandchildren who we believe according to authorities to have been living with mcfadden at the time. she said that she was particularly concerned about his relationship with the family and that he had them under lock and key and had to know where they were at all times. the search ultimately took place and was executed yesterday afternoon. the coroner's office is currently conducting those examinations of the body before they confirmed the identities of those seven individuals. >> thank you. danny, how is it possible that this man who served 17 years for

sex offense as a sex could go missing like this with teenagers. >> modern sex offender registries laws are very strict. it requires gps monitoring for any offender who is paroled or is a violent or habitual sexual offender. in all likelihood, it's reasonable to assume this is somebody that should have been on gps monitoring at minimum and then of course to have this only discovered because police were serving a warrant and not because they had any eyes or any knowledge about what this former offender was up to is really confusing. there still are a lot of facts that we need to learn about why this is not somebody who was monitored more closely because oklahoma law appears to not only allow for that, but require it, make it mandatory, especially given what these apparent convictions were for. >> there's new reporting that a task officer from the prosecutor's office visited the property twice yesterday after learning that the missing teens

may have had to do with someone associated with the property. what does that tell you? >> it's hard to say at this point. law enforcement is being deliberately vague until they know more. but whoever that person associated with the property is, it could be the case that these teens may have to some degree gone there voluntarily at some point, but then were kidnapped or anything else. it's really hard to say at this point. but one thing is for sure, it's going to require us to take a closer look at sex offender registries and what kind of monitoring we have. for repeat offenders -- and unfortunately, recidivism when it comes to sex offenders is very high. they require a lot of treatment. the reality is, many of them will get out some day so we have to figure out what we're going to do with offenders once they're released, given that they have this abysmal recidivism rate. >> disturbing.

thank you for joining us on that. oklahoma has now become the latest state to ban gender-affirming medical care for minors. on monday, oklahoma republican governor kevin stitt signed a bill into law that makes it a felony for health care workers to give kids treatments. up next, the federal reserve is preparing for another possible rate hike. the potential impact on your wallet. and a group of women taking on a town, trying to stop election denialism. what it could mean for the next election. this is "chris jansing reports" only on msnbc. no7 then... it's amazing! hydrates better than the expensive stuff i don't live here, so i'm taking this and whatever's in the back. it's already sold in the us. but i'm not taking any chances. the uk's #1 skincare has crossed the pond. (vo) verizon small business days are back. april 27th through may 3rd. the uk's #1 skincare get a free tech check and special offers.

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against the backdrop of banking turmoil and the national debt limit debate, the federal reserve is expected to announce another interest rate hike tomorrow. this would be the tenth consecutive rate hike since march of 2022, part of an aggressive campaign to rein in soaring inflation. the markets are anticipating a quarter of a percent bump. joining us right now is reporter for the "new york times" and jennifer is back with us. how does this complicate the decision before the fed?

>> two ways. i think the most important one is just that, like you said, what we're seeing in the banking industry is clearly in some ways a response to the very significant amount of rate increase the fed has done. and so they have to worry that we've seen some weaknesses surface, but have we seen them all? if we keep raising rates, it might be the case. the second way, these bank collapses are going to weigh on the economy. they're going to make it harder to borrow, they're going to make borrowing maybe a little more expensive as banks pull back and shore up their own positions. that could do some of the fed's work for it when it comes to slowing down the economy and trying to get the -- overheating inflation back under control. >> so we have a group of predominant democratic lawmakers like senators elizabeth warren, bernie sanders, and they sent a letter to chairman powell calling on him to pause the high rate hikes to avoid engineering a regulation that destroys jobs.

senator warren has been critical of powell. this is nothing new. but they operate in silos. how heavily does the fed weigh political pressures if at all? >> it does not typically weigh political pressures. it actually, you know, very much is set up to be insulated from political pressures. and the idea there is that, you know, we don't have a lot of tools for controlling inflation in this country or in general. and the fed is really what we've got. and the way it controls inflation is by raising interest rates and cooling down the economy. and that process, as those letters made clear, that process can be really painful. it can leave people out of work and involve hard decisions. and over time, america has decided to insulate the fed from politics so its officials have the ability to make those painful and sometimes really unpleasant, unpopular decisions in order to sort of control inflation and put the economy on a steady glide path in the longer run. >> jennifer, of course, we know the world is watching, the country is watching, and

president biden's future success will be closely tied to what happens with the economy and really what happens with the fed and these decisions. what is the administration need to do about messaging? especially with the banking collapses, they've been really quick to say, look, the system is strong, they don't want to obviously start a bunch of panic withdrawals. but what do they need to be doing here? >> there's a lot of things happening here at once. you have the fed -- the fed rate hikes, you have the first republic bank collapse, there were two other bank collapses this year. inflation continuing to be high and then people having a lot of questions about debt limits. so i think the -- sometimes it's hard to get the american public's attention in a -- in the news environment that we work in. the white house has people's attention when it comes to economy. you want to explain -- you see they're already talking about what the republican plan on debt limit would do in terms of cut and is how the cuts are going to

further hurt the economy. you want with each of these story lines, the debt limit, the -- and the fed reserve to show what steps are you taking that is trying to shore up the economy, the things that you've done already, how they're going to help people. that is how you want to try to message this. but fundamentally, if the economy, you know, next year is not doing well, that is -- that's not something that you can communicate around. >> and it's also -- yes, people want to hear from the administration. but at the end of the day they want a raise. if these businesses are worried about a recession or these rate hikes tipping us toward that way, they're not playing their employees more. >> and with the rate hikes keeps businesses being able to invest because they can't get loans. it's a difficult -- it is a difficult -- it's a difficult situation. but i think not -- in terms of things that are within your control, what you can do is to explain to people what it is that you're trying to do about it, the things you've already done that will help, the

inflation reduction act, the chips act, in terms of bringing new businesses online, energy rebates, that kind of thing. what am i doing. i get what you're hurting. what am i doing that's going to try to alleviate this problem for you. ultimately, though, when we get to '24, they're just going to want to see these measures from the fed and others have paid off -- >> they feel differently in their budgets. >> inflation is down, wages are up and, you know, these measures have had the impact you want them to have. >> we're seeing the rate of inflation not soaring quite as much at least. the rate is increasing but not as much as it was. thank you. our thanks also to gina from the "new york times." as russia suffers devastating losses in its ukraine invasion, its detention of evan gesh virtue is leading to people trying to raise his spirits. you're watching "chris jansing

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as anyone can experience loneliness the impact can be devastating here. is there anything surprising to you in this new advisory from the surgeon general? >> there's nothing surprising, but it's really a spectacular summary on the research on the impabl of social isolation and loneliness and what gets laid out very clearly in the advisory of how hard this is for people to be alone and that isolation or loneliness is associateded with increased cardiovascular disease and heightens the risk of dementia and it contributes to stroke, depression, anxiety and shortens a life span. to feel alone or isolate side incredibly hard on the human body and impacts our health. >> making friends as an adult is hard. moving to a new place is hard and meeting new people. why are we lonelier? >> we do spend more time alone and this is a trend that is very well documented in the advisory

and the pandemic accelerated that process. half of all adults reported having three or fewer friends and in 1990 that number was 27% so this is something that's changing over time. one thing that is true is sometimes as adults we can get stuck in small traffic patterns and not necessarily coming across new people and the reality is you don't make friends, you find friends and part of why you find friends is getting out and about and being in positions to meet people you don't already know. >> takes some of the pressure off. the surgeon general spoke to morning joe about this advisory and also what can be done to help. let's listen. >> from government, yes, there are things we can do, as well. we can certainly invest in policies that help build the infrastructure and communities that make communities well, and allow people to walk together and support community organizations and invest in research that we need to understand which populations are the most affected and what solutions work well. >> do you agree there, doctor?

does that sound feasible? that sounds like maybe long-term solutions? what could we be thinking about the short term? >> you have to start somewhere, but at the individual level there is just so much we can do. as individuals we can really make and take time to invest in our relationships. we can put ourselves in the position of supporting the people around us. we can get involved with civic activity with social groups or local groups. it is very important that we commit to spending less time with screens a difference. >> your new book is about teenagers and their emotional lives and this advisory does call for teaching kids to build healthy relationships and spend less time online and social media. how do we do that? >> part of it is we keep it out

and about in situations where they're around caring adults, around their peers and are able to interact in person. i think the other thing that we want to be aware of is social isolation and loneliness impacts teens like adults. we also see higher rates of depression and anxiety. it's critically important that we make sure teenagers feel connected to adults around them and agemates, classmates and teens they know. >> thank you for information on this. appreciate your time. a truly bananas headline, an art student in seoul ate a piece of iconic art work because he was hungry. so if you're looking at your screen you might be confused. the art in question is a ripe banana duct taped to a wall worth more than $100,000. okay. that aside, when asked why he ate it the student told the museum he skipped breakfast and

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