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in other words, computers will takeover? >> yes, that's possible. >> reporter: the concern ai may be spreading too fast to contain. tom costello, nbc news, washington. we have a lot to cover in our second hour of "chris jansing reports." let's get right to it. at this hour, feinstein on defense. the california senator is pushing back amid calls for her resignation over her ongoing absence on the judiciary committee. inside her latest statement, next. plus, the white house is weighing a new debt ceiling plan to avert what would be a disastrous default for the country. can they get republicans on board? and coming up, could we see the longest sentencing to date for a january 6th rioters, who he is, and why the doj is pushing for him to get 24 1/2 years behind bars. also, a top russian mercenary leader says his
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fighters will withdraw from a high profile battle in ukraine next week. the major blow to russian president vladimir putin and what it could mean for the war if they do retreat. our nbc news reporters are following all of the latest developments here. i want to begin in ukraine with the latest commenting from the leader of russia's wagner group, threatening to withdraw from bakhmut if he's not supplied with more ammunition. this graphic video with the bodies of russian soldiers, he would draw as soon as next wednesday, significantly after victory day celebrations in russia. this is a guy trying to earn putin's good graces, the latest declaration is shocking. >> reporter: the words in the declaration are not necessarily so surprising because we have heard him in recent days since last week make this claim that he says russia's ministry of defense is not providing his group with enough ammunition in bakhmut.
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what is surprising here is the tone that he has in these videos and the images in one of them in particular, that one you mentioned where he is showing just rows and rows of dead russian soldiers. it's incredibly graphic. his tone is very angry as he is pleading with russia's ministry of defense, calling some of its top officials out by name, saying we need more ammunition, saying that those soldiers, that their blood is on those leaders' hands and threatening to pull out of bakhmut on wednesday if they do not get more ammunition. ukrainian officials are incredibly skeptical of the claim. the commander of the eastern group for ukraine's armed forces says that the claim he's making of not having enough ammunition is not true. in the last 24 hours, wagner's forces in bakhmut fired around 520 ukrainian positions. he said they don't seem to have
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from ukraine's point of view a shortage of ammo. he rather says that this is a situation where they have failed to capture this city. they have been fighting here for eight months and now in his move, pregosian is trying to make up for the failures on the fighting line. ukraine's deputy defense minister says russia in her view is, and this is the language she used, desperately trying to seize bakhmut by tuesday, may 9th, the victory holiday you mentioned. russia is moving wagner fighters from other directions and replacing them with para trooper assault units currently fighting in the bakhmut direction. this language we have seen, it is surprising given the circumstances. this is someone who has been an important part of russia's fight in the east particularly when it comes to the city of bakhmut. we have seen and heard reports
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that he has been falling out with president putin and others high up in the kremlin. there's been a lot of talk in ukraine about possible fractures within russia's kind of rag tag coalition and the ministry of defense and their armed forces. ukraine is saying we don't believe this claim. we think this is some sort of ploy and/or some sort of justification to try and explain why they're struggling in bakhmut. the video, very shocking. we do not normally see videos like that posted from commanders of any unit. incredibly, incredibly graphic images from him and very harsh words for russia's ministry of defense. >> and since we have been on the air we did get word that volodymyr zelenskyy met with a delegation of u.s. members of congress. we're going to get more information on the meeting and bring you the latest. in less than an hour, the doj is set to argue for its longest sentence yet in a january 6th case.
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nbc's ken dilanian is following this. ken, this is not connected to the big verdicts we got yesterday at the proud boys trial. tell us who this guy is, and why his case is the one doj is asking for a big sentence on? >> his name is peter schwartz. he's 50 years old, and what's really going on here is the doj contends he's essentially a career criminal. they say he's got 38 prior convictions going back to 1991, including many convictions for domestic violence and making threats. so when you have somebody with that kind of record who's now convicted of violently attacking police officers at the capitol, that makes for a long prison sentence, so they're asking for 24 years in prison for schwartz. his lawyers are countering that he should serve four years. when your lawyers are asking for a four years as a minimum, you know that's a bad day for you. prosecutors really portray him as one of the most aggressive rioters on january 6th. they say that he picked up
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discarded chemical spray and then sprayed the capitol police and metropolitan police with the chemical display. he was wielding a wooden club, but they also say that he has a three-decade history of assault, violence and weapons. a jaw dropping criminal history of 38 prior convictions going back to 1991. and he was actually on probation at the time of january 6th. >> ken dilanian, thank you for bringing us that reporting. now to major new reporting that the white house is considering a shorter term debt ceiling agreement. kayla tausche has the latest. you broke this story, what more are we learning. >> reporter: we know the white house is preparing for the high stakes meeting on tuesday when the president is going to be hosting the top four congressional leaders and the public line has been that the president wants a long-term deal. the white house believes that republicans should raise the debt limit with no strings attached. behind the scenes, they are
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discussing what alternative plans could look like to divert a disastrous default by june 1st. one of the options is a shorter term extension of the nation's borrowing limit, perhaps into the fall. that's according to five sources familiar with the plan who have been in touch with the administration. one of these sources tell me the administration can't afford more drama, more uncertainty because despite having a relatively robust employment picture, the economy is growing very slowly, and the white house's own estimates show that taking this debate right up to the bring could drive the nation toward a recession. now, the time line as i mentioned, likely to be extended into the fall, if this is the path that the white house eventually chooses. a white house official denies that this is being seriously considered at least ahead of tuesday's meeting. it might be the inevitable outcome. at least six times since 1993 a short-term extension has been necessary to buy more time for a
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broader consensus to be reached, and with just three weeks, less than a month before that june 1st deadline, the clock is ticking. and it might end up being the only option, despite it being described as a fall back or a last resort by our sources. >> kayla tausche, thank you. now to capitol hill, new comments from senator dianne feinstein amid calls for her resignation. feinstein is defending her extended absence from the hill and says there's no slow down of judicial nominees in the interim. ali vitali joins us with more. senator feinstein has been absent since february. is she correct there's been no slow down of president biden's judicial nominees? >> reporter: no, she's not. even though the committee has been able to vote on some nominees, advancing them to the senate floor, they haven't been able to advance on others. if you look at the split on the judiciary committee, the important committee where feinstein has sat for years, it
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is an 11-10 split between democrats and republicans respectively. the fact that feinstein is out makescommittee. the committee has been available to advance nominees that have some republican support. those folks have been able to get on to the senate floor for confirmation. others have not advanced out of committee, and we have seen dick durbin hold nomination votes back because he lacks the vote. they realize there could be a problem with her absence being continued in this fashion. we watched a few weeks ago the idea be floated that someone should replace feinstein on the committee temporarily until she's able to come back to washington. that's tbd. we watched that idea die on the vine as several senate republicans basically said they weren't willing to help democrats do that so they could further advance party line
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judicial nominees. there's that in the short-term, the whole idea of not being able to advance justices. then of course in the long-term we watched already some in the house and in the california delegation say that feinstein should step down early from her term. we already know this is going to be her last term in the senate. those calls could get louder the longer she stays away from washington. frankly, we have been asking her office for a timetable, an update. they say it's on her doctors when she's cleared to fly. no official timetable yet. >> thank you. former president trump making a major campaign strategy adjustment as he looks to retake the white house. we're back with what both reporters behind the story have to say in 60 seconds have to say in 60 seconds cus is to always support the people who live and work there. because you call these communities home, and we do too. pnc bank. (seth) not to brag, but i just switched to verizon.
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republican. a new nbc news report analyzed how trump has distanced himself for the party name in a campaign that's starting to look more like his 2016 run. i'm joined by the two nbc news reporter behind this story, vaughn hillyard and jonathan allen. you reviewed trump's speeches, interviews, video posts, face-to-face interactions with voters. how has his language changed since the last time he launched a presidential bid? >> you remember in 2020, he had the republican convention, a big part of the republican convention at the white house. there was no hiding from the party that he led. he talked about republican candidates. he talked about republican values. what you are hearing now on the campaign trail and all of those venues that we've just discussed in the speeches and face-to-face interactions with voters and videos he puts out, he almost never uses the word republican. he does it sparingly, and when it does, it's often to disparage other republicans, senate
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minority leader mitch mcconnell, for example, or ron desantis, the florida governor. >> how has the calculus shifted between when trump last ran and now? >> there's an acknowledgment among advicers and allies that donald trump lost in 2020, and in order to be able to pitch to voters and including those within the republican party, he's got to broaden out his appeal beyond the republican party as we know it here. and that is where you have seen this really, the paradigm shift to more of an us versus them. creating an opposition party as opposed to a republican party operation here. and that is what we saw in 2016 was donald trump sort of -- the republican party go to hell i'm doing this here, and i'm something greater. i'm going to appeal for working class voters who voted for democrats in past presidential elections and that's exactly what they are trying to cobble up this time. there's a right wing provocateur
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named charlie kirk who suggested this is quite a day when the likes of rfk jr. is getting applause from the conservative grass roots movement and republican senators are getting booed. donald trump here in the months ahead, they had believed they ought to have the republican party on lockdown here, based off the polling, and now they need to go and reach beyond that. >> i just want to say it's an incredible turn of events, there's an acknowledgment that he lost 2020, i'm going to leave that there for you. jonathan, from the gop establishment perspective, where does this leave top party leaders when it comes to their relationship with trump? >> most of them are very careful about their relationship with trump, even if they don't like him, many don't want to see him as the standard bearer. many believe he was responsible for consecutive election disappoints in 2018, 2022, even
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though who don't like him treat him carefully because they understand he is willing to attack fellow republicans, and he's willing to take the republican party. in fact, that's part of his strategy to build this campaign that's like the 2016 outsider attempt that he weighed successful. he took on all of the sacred of the institutions of the democratic and republican party and everything else. they understand he's somebody who can cause a lot of pain for them if they get in his way. >> you touched on the us versus them mentality a little bit. but you talked to a trump adviser who told you whether it's the uni party or deep state or world government, there's most definitely a recognition amongst the electorate at large that there's an us versus them component. how are we seeing that manifest? >> he hasn't said he would
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commit to a republican nominee not named donald trump. he may not partake in the first and second gop debates later in the summer. for donald trump and his campaign, it's about appealing to folks who are frustrated with what is being taught in schools or the extent to which the military, again, in their words, has gone woke or whether there's frustration in the justice system in what they contend is a politicized justice system. they're going to make the appeal that the government, the deep state, big government is getting too much involved into the lives of every day americans and that donald trump best represents the opportunity to take on those guys in suits, that includes not just joe biden but also the likes of ron desantis. that is the pitch that they are trying to make here in order to have a legitimate pitch to these not only republican voters, but also democrats and independents heading into 2024. >> vaughn hillyard and jonathan allen, thank you both for your reporting.
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we have just got in former president trump's video deposition from last october, in e. jean carroll's civil case against him. right before both sides rested their case. let's listen to some of what the jury listened to. >> when you said in that video that ms. leads would not be your first choice, you were referring to her physical look. >> i look at her, hear her, you wouldn't be a choice of mine either, to be honest with you. i hope you're not insulted. i would not under any circumstances have any interest in you. i'm honest when i say it. she, i would not have any interest in. >> this comes as the judge in this case is now giving the
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former president until 5:00 p.m. sunday to decide whether to take the stand after he told reporters yesterday that he's quote going back to new york because of the case. with me now is nbc senior legal correspondent laura jarrett and former federal prosecutor glenn kirschner. sound like we just heard the former president telling an attorney maybe on carroll's side that he would never be interested in the attorney. i'm not sure why that's relevant. >> if being an enormous jerk were a crime, donald trump is guilty. and that kind of comment will not win him any fans in the jurybox. you know, there's a constellation of evidence in the e. jean carroll, you have what we call an outcry witness, somebody to whom ms. carroll promptly reported, within minutes, the attack. it really does credulity, maybe
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she called a trusted friend and confidant and reported a sexual assault by donald trump that really didn't occur. i'm sorry, that doesn't make any sense. you then have other victims of donald trump's sexual assaults that testified, and perhaps most importantly, you have donald trump's own words on the access hollywood tape, describing his pattern, his practice, his habit of walking up to women and sexually assaulting them because he is a star. that constellation of evidence makes for a very powerful and compelling case for e. jean carol. >> you had read the transcripts, but seeing the video feels different, right? >> totally different. and remember this is what the jury actually saw yesterday, the former president under oath answering questions, again, the context for what you just played, the attorney asking about other accusations of sexual assault, instead of saying, i didn't do that, i
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would never do that, i didn't do it in this case, he's saying to the attorney, you're not my type either. that's sort of an incredible moment to have captured there on camera for the jury to see without having the defendant present there to defend themselves. obviously he has defense attorneys, and they have put on, you know, cross-examination but they haven't put on a defense case at all. the jury is watching the video. >> i don't even know the woman. it's marla. >> you're saying marla's in this photo? >> that's marla, yeah. that's any wife. >> which woman are you pointing to? >> here. >> the person you just pointed to is e. jean carroll. the woman on the right is your then wife marla. >> i assume that's jonathan lemire -- john johnson.
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>> it's a photo that includes a plaintiff here. e. jean carroll, her ex-husband, the defendant, former president and his then wife. he's confused, though, who e. jean carroll is in the picture. he's confusing e. jean carroll for his wife. the whole point is to say you're saying she's not your type. well, you thought she was your wife. she is your type. and the attorney is like, wait a second, you're saying that's your wife. she's even confused because she can't believe he's saying it either. again, perhaps if he had appeared at trial, he would have been able to explain this away. i'm sure he would have had some explanation for it. instead all the jury is getting is this video. >> when we talk about that and the fact the president hasn't testified in his defense, the defense team essentially didn't mount a defense. they do cross-examination and things like that, have they done their job and sort of the bar
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that's different on a civil case? >> to testify under oath in a court of law is like donald trump promising that next week is in infrastructure week. not going to happen. never going to happen, and boy, that was a staggering clip that you just played there. when his only defense is not that i am above sexually assaulting women, but i'm not going to sexually assault somebody who's not my type. that is the strangest offense to a sexual assault imaginable, but then, as laura just said, he points to a woman that actually was his type. he confuses e. jean carroll with one of his former wives. i mean, this defense is really flat out laughable. and, you know, i hope the jury sees this for what it is. >> laura, what happens next in the case? >> so the judge has given him like a last ditch effort to try
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to testify. by all accounts he's not going to appear. his attorneys have not suggested he's going to appear. there's no reason to think he should. the drug, for the avoidance of doubt, he can't say the judge stopped me. i'm going to give you until 5:00. not saying i'm going to allow it. let's assume he doesn't testify. on monday we're going to hear closing arguments. >> jarrett, thank you. secretary mayorkas is scheduled to speak. where is congress in helping to solve this crisis. i'll ask a former homeland security committee member next. d security committee member next wanted. for free. (cecily) not that you're bragging. (vo) choose the phone you want, on us. during our spring savings event. (cecily) on the network worth bragging about. verizon [tap tap] my secret to beating sniff checks? secret dry spray. just spray and stay fresh all day. my turn. secret actually fights odor.
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while we wait for dhs secretary alejandro mayorkas to speak in texas, we have to remember the humanitarian crisis doesn't just put a strain on border communities, it impacts states and communities hundreds of miles away where services could top $4 billion next year. joining me is a man who knows the city well, former new york democratic congressman max rose. thanks for being with us. when you were in office, you worked extensively on this issue. nothing ever got solved. why not? what led us here? >> in this particular issue, i do believe that the republican party, the leadership of the republican party and the base of the republican party under no circumstances wants to do anything about this issue in a comprehensive, bipartisan manner
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because that would actually result in more legal immigration to this country, something that they are avowedly opposed to. all they want to do is travel down to the border in funny looking vests and hold press conferences. all of this, you know, anger and press around title 42 going away is totally misguided right now. title 42 allows for individuals to cross the border illegally multiple times without any consequence. title 8, the immigration law of this country actually institutes massive penalties for it. what we have to focus on is the fact that our asylum process itself is chronically under funded and broken, and the only way to address that is in congress, 60 votes in the senate, republicans getting behind it in the house, and because that will result in more asylum seekers, and this country actually standing forthrightly
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for its values and morals, the republican party will not get behind it. >> one quick question about that. you say if title 42 were to sunset as it's planned to do, you think it would be a good thing. title 48, the law of the land is stricter. we are seeing a surge. is that a result of the conditions south of the border, an example of misinformation from the coyotes saying once title 42 is lifted, you can come in. >> it's everything. there are significant root causes associated with this surge in migrants and the surge in asylum seekers, and i don't care how high you build a wall, none of that will address that crisis. now, what you look at, what you see in the administration's policy right now is they are doubling down on investing in addressing those root crises, addressing in, you know, the availability of visa applications, in other nations closer to the source of these crises, so people don't have to engage in a thousand mile long treacherous journey that leaves
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far too many dead and injured. so what we are seeing now with title 42 going away, i believe, is a reversion, yes, to a stronger immigration policy, but also reveals the urgent need in this country for bipartisan comp comprehensive immigration reform, which addresses the need for enhanced security at the border and should address the need for far more legal immigration to the united states of america, which is, in fact, our most potent resource as a nation. >> let's go ahead and play what your former colleague, texas democratic congressman henry cuellar said earlier today. >> our border communities don't like what we're seeing here at the border. we as democrats can have law and order and still respect the immigrants' values. we got to have some sort of law and order at the border.
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>> so obviously he said a lot of his constituents, too, are frustrated here because, you know, they did things the quote unquote, right way. they, you know, entered legally or waited for the process here. you know, does it feel like this issue is being too much of a political football here, passing the can down the road saying, no, it's republicans when at the end of the day, democrats were also sent to congress to get things done. >> everything is a political football these days, but what we certainly see, and this goes for every major issue of significance that it absolutely will require democrats and republicans to come to the table, to compromise and to get something done. the only point that i am making here, though, is if we are truly going to address the root causes of our present immigration crisis, we have got to address the fact that there are not enough asylum judges. there are not enough asylum courts. there aren't enough resources centered around that, and there is not a clear and forthright and expeditious pathway to legal
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citizenship in the united states of america. of course that can be paired and should be paired with enhanced and responsible screenings, not building a fifth century solution, aka, a wall, to a 21st century crisis, so, yes, it's compromise. it's bipartisanship, but the party that is resolutely opposed to that right now is not the democratic party. it's the republican party. >> former new york congressman max rose, thanks for being with us. >> thank you. calls for accountability are growing for the 24-year-old, putting a fellow passenger, jordan neely in a choke hold. george solis is reporting on this. what's the latest in new york today? >> reporter: the number of protests have continued to grow. today there was one outside the d.a.'s office, protesters demanding justice saying why the 24-year-old in this case was questioned and released.
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processors say they want to keep putting pressure on the d.a. and local leaders to ensure that some kind of accountability for jordan neely's death is held. we know according to that video, this was a case where this individual put him in a choke hold and according to the medical examiner's report, that is what led to his death. during this protest, i spoke with a close friend of his who says he's known him for a very long time, and this is a very emotional moment for a lot of people because they say this is not only just about the self-defense argument. there's also questions here about homelessness and the state of affairs when it comes to helping people with mental health. so take a listen to what he told me. >> for friends, i can imagine seeing this video must have been difficult. have you been able to review it? >> i've seen it, and i couldn't watch. it was heartbreaking. you know, because i know the man. he was like the most timid, passive individual i'd ever met, you know, he was like 90 pounds
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wet. he wasn't a threat to anyone. the narrative seems to be a homeless person in distress. he was a professional artist who gave his life to this city to bring joy and peace, and i don't know why this individual is not under arrest. i don't know. >> reporter: mayor eric adams saying he wants people not to rush to judgment, to let this investigation unfold. we know from the family attorney, a brief statement from them. they're saying they took this case because 15 minutes is too long to go out help, intervention, without air. passengers are not supposed to die on the floors of subways. we know that the d.a.'s office has assigned a prosecutor to this case, and they are going to review that video, and still gather more information before they present any charges should they decide to move forward. >> nbc's george solis, thank you, and dh secretary mayorkas
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is speaking now ahead of the lifting of title 42 saying this requires a regional solution. let's listen. >> misinformed by the smugglers and brought to the southern border only to be returned. a regional challenge requires a regional solution. let me give you a brief overview of our approach. as we indicated last week, we are building lawful pathways that will provide a safe and orderly way for individuals who qualify for relief under united states law to reach the united states safely. we are building on the success of our parole processes that we announced on january 5th for the cubans, haitians, nicaraguans and venezuelans. we saw a 95% drop in the number of encounters with those individuals at the southern border because we built lawful pathways for them to access, and that is the model that we are
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building upon. last thursday secretary of state tony blinken and i announced the development of regional processing centers in different parts of south and central america to enable individuals to access lawful pathways from those regional processing centers, where they qualify for refugee processing. whether they qualify for our existing and expanding family reunification programs, whether they present acute vulnerabilities that may qualify them for humanitarian parole on a case by case basis. we are reaching the people where they are. it is not only our security obligation. it is our humanitarian responsibility to cut the smugglers out, and that is indeed what we are doing. we are building pathways at the same time we will deliver consequences for individuals who arrive at our southern border
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irregularly. that is our commitment and obligation as a way of cutting the smugglers out and taking care of the safety and needs of individuals who qualify for relief. in a post title 42 environment, we will be using our expedited removal authorities under title 8 of the united states code. that allows us to remove individuals very quickly. we will by may 11th finalize the rule that we published in a proposed format that provides that individuals who do not access our lawful pathways will be presumed to be ineligible for asylum and will have a higher burden of proof to overcome that presumption of ineligibility. we are building lawful pathways and, we are delivering consequences for those who do not use those meaningfully
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accessible pathways. the message is very clear. we are coming with the relief that our laws provide to the individuals in need. the border is not open. it has not been open, and it will not be open subsequent to may 11th. and the smugglers who exploit vulnerable migrants are spreading misinformation. they are spreading false information, lies in a way to lure vulnerable people to the southern border and those individuals will only be returned. to the individuals themselves who are thinking of migrating, do not believe the smugglers. please access the official government publications. please access the official government information on the department of homeland security web site for accurate information because you are being deceived, and you are
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risking your lives and your life savings only to meet a consequence that you do not expect at our southern border. to meet our objectives, we have been and continue to surge resources, personnel, transportation capabilities, airplanes to effect a greater number of removals every week. additional facilities, the remarkable facility that the united states border patrol set up here in collaboration with the community of brownsville. this was set up in just 72 hours. we are surging resources. earlier today, we also announced the distribution of additional funds to border communities, nonprofit organizations, and several interior cities to meet their needs in their partnership with us to address the situation at our border and to address the humanitarian needs of migrants.
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we distributed approximately 330 million more dollars today for the benefit of those organizations. we have a plan. we are executing on that plan. i have come to mcallen and brownsville to see firsthand that plan in action. fundamentally, however, fundamentally, we are working within a broken immigration system that for decades has been in dire need of reform. that is a fact about which everyone agrees. and we urge congress to fix our broken immigration system, and until then, we will do everything that we can within our authorities to provide an orderly and safe pathway for individuals who qualify for relief under the laws of the united states of america. and thank you, with that, deputy
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commissioner carey huffman. >> that was secretary alejandro mayorkas talking about what they're doing on the border amid this humanitarian crisis, this surge of asylum seekers at many border towns. he talked about creating lawmaker pathways to citizenship, cutting the smugglers out, and also implementing the consequences for those who don't use legal pathways. he says he has been watching resources, including personnel, airplanes, for removal at the facilities, ensuring that the border is not open, has not been open, and will not be open, subsequent to the lifting of title 42. we're going to keep monitoring that press conference in brownsville. still to come, a major health tool is about to change as the covid health emergency is lifted. why the medical community is concerned, next. fted why the medical community is concerned, next. power e*trade's easy-to-use tools, like dynamic charting and risk-reward analysis help make trading feel effortless. and its customizable scans with social sentiment help you find and unlock opportunities in the market.
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what could a change in policy mean? >> reporter: bottom line, it could soon be harder for people to have access to those medications which some see as potentially life saving in the fight against opioid use disorder. in the midst of our team's reporting, the dea earlier this week put a pause on something that had been planned and expected for months. all that decision does is delay making a choice on how down the line we will save more lives in this country. when covid-19 invaded our lives more than three years ago, much of the world shut down. but at the same time, the telehealth universe opened up. >> i had an easier time getting a doctor, getting my needs met than i have ever had going into an actual building. >> reporter: for kari wayman, those needs included a prescription for bupinfran. >> i haven't had to set in a room with people newly in recovery. >> reporter: that flexibility
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