can be done by the tech companies that own and operate these apps to try and help families? >> great question. this is aimed at those questions. really big question, what are you doing about your algorithm? same with that like button, should children, should young teenagers be compared and using the like button or are there certain features that can be changed, and that will see if the companies or any legislation changes those things. >> thank you. good conversation. that does it for us. can't forget, tune in for savannah's show. that will do it for us today. reporting from new york, i am ana cabrera. josé diaz-balart picks up with coverage right now. good morning, it's 11:00 a.m. eastern, and 8:00 a.m.

pacific. the stakes are high, expectations are high with the conversation with the debt ceiling. with just days to go until the end of title 42, we are on both sides of the southern border as more migrants arrive in the hopes of seeking asylum. we will also talk to a congresswoman about what she's seeing on the ground along border towns in texas. and then in new york, the civil rape trial against donald trump begins to deliberate any minute. we begin this hour with what is shaping up to be a big week for the biden administration. hours from now biden will sit

down with the four top congressle leaders to figure out if there's a way to avoid a default. white house staff laid the groundwork for today's meeting. this is the first time it was reported by punchbowl news. the meeting comes as the administration braces for the end of title 42 on thursday evening. border communities have seen a large increase in the amount of men, women and children crossing the border with many more expected to come. with us now to talk about all of this, nbc news white house correspondent, monica alba, and jake sherman. what is the urgency? >> the urgency is the debt ceiling needs to be lifted by june 1st, and there's a lot of people that don't necessarily

believe that date but it doesn't matter if they believe it, because the treasury says that and that's the sole decider. republicans say they need spending cuts and other reforms along the debt ceiling lift, and the democrats want the republicans to lift the ceiling and it's not compatible. a deal is possible and it's not going to change the world, but republicans and democrats both feel according to conversations i have had last night and this morning, that if they can get some sort of deal to set spending levels, maybe do permitting reform, and that would be the energy reforms, and it could unlock a debt ceiling lift. i can't overemphasize how difficult this will be in the next couple of weeks. >> monica, what does the white

house see in the meeting coming up? >> reporter: the president and the white house say they are going to be firm and clear in their position and the president is not going to go into the meeting with some of these backup solutions, at least not at this point. so are there other remedies potentially that could come into play when we are talking about a short-term extension, punting this to later in the year when there would be a government funding deadline, that's one possibility. the white house is saying the president has maintained his position that when it comes to something as important, they argue, as raising the debt ceiling so america doesn't default for the first time ever in history, but you have to look at the fact that these leaders are coming together to have a conversation. obviously there's a little bit of room here for talks, for hearing each other out, but there's not a lot of hope, josé, for what could come out of it in terms of any resolution today.

this is likely very much a starting point, and when you look at the calendar in a matter of weeks, the president will go oversees to japan and australia next week as all of this is potentially still being dealt with. that shows the urgency here. the white house is going in with a clear stance that they want to get this revolved and feel it's congress's duty to do that, and they are keeping the conversation open. this is a starting point for something that they want to make clear to the american people would be catastrophic if it isn't dealt with when it comes to the stock market and millions of jobs being wiped out and could affect everybody if this is not something taken care of. and of course dealing with the politics of two sides, extremely dug in at this point. >> jake, not a lot known about mcconnell and his position and stance on this. what is the story with

mcconnell? >> mcconnell is lining up lockstep with mccarthy. the white house and democrats did not expect that. it lined up all house republicans and democrats in the spot, and it's a huge boom for mccarthy and mcconnell. on the idea, and monica is absolutely right, it would make a ton of sense to pass a short-term debt limit increase. i have very serious doubts at this point whether the house or senate could do that. i think that republicans are going to be lockstep again against that, even if it means really pushing that deadline in june. i know the white house and some house democrats and senate democrats would like that. lining a debt ceiling up with government funding in september would be a nightmare of epic proportions for a congress that

is closely divided in the house and senate, and you could have a debt ceiling threat and a shutdown threat at the same time, which is extremely, extremely dangerous. >> monica, let's turn to title 42, which we all know ends thursday at midnight. what are you hearing from the white house about preparations they have been making or lack of them? >> reporter: yeah, well, over the last couple of months when title 42 was set to expire, there was sort of a dry run of this sixth pillar program that the department of homeland security put in place to try and surge resources to the border given the expected influx of migrants that we are already beginning to see leading up to the deadline, and that includes 1,500 active duty troops to help with this, and additional processing facilities and additional personnel on the ground to help with this, and securing the cooperation of

mexico to help with this as well. as you know, they really don't know what is going to happen in terms of how this is going to work logistically. this is an unprecedented moment of migration in the entirety of the western hemisphere, and that's something that biden administration is trying to remind everybody of, it's not just a problem unique to the united states but the images coming out of there and the suffering coming out of migrants who have had to endure in so many cases, kidnappings, torture and violence throughout the journey, and that's something that is going to be front and center and will take weeks or months to stem the flow of this. in terms of adding people to try and add with it, that's something the administration is saying, they are as prepared as they can be, and they are going to say this is what we won't know in totality for sometime. >> thank you very much. there's an emotional vigil

in brownsville last night for the eight men who died when a car rammed into them outside a migrant shelter on sunday. this has brownsville and other border communities brace for the increase once the border restrictions go away. msnbc news national correspondent, gabe gutierrez in brownsville, and we have gabe in tijuana. it's one more horrible experience for people who have already gone through so much trying just to get here to ask for asylum. what are you hearing from them? >> hi, there, josé. as you mention the emotional vigil, you see the makeshift memorial growing behind me. we have been speaking with migrants who are just devastated. i will point out, josé, the

driver in the case, george alvarez, has been arrested and charged with eight counts of manslaughter and ten counts of aggravated assault, and we are learning more about the victims. three of them have just been released from the hospital, and that's positive news. seven others are still hospitalized. we are also hearing about those who died, family members in agony, learning their loved ones are among the dead. we are hearing for the first time from a victim inside the hospital. take a listen. n.

>> reporter: just awful to hear, josé. he lost his leg. his family is now in begging president biden for help. josé, of course this all comes, as you mentioned, tensions are ramping up here along the border in brownsville ahead of the lifting of title 42. this state is in a state of emergency, and governor abbott tweeted new razor wire being put up to try and stop some of the my migrant influx in the next few days. it's extremely difficult and that tragedy, eight people dead, it just left this community in shock, josé. >> gabe, they are all

venezuelans, as far as we know, the people that lost their lives? >> yes, that's right. all venezuelans. we did hear from a migrant that said -- told us one of the victims is as young as 18. their names have not been officially been released but they were all venezuelan men standing at this bus stop early sunday morning after an incredibly grueling journey from venezuela. one migrant said yesterday, what have we done to deserve this? and now what they saw as the american dream turned into a nightmare, josé. >> meanwhile, tens of thousands are waiting in mexico for a chance to come to the united states. what are you seeing on the other side of the border in tijuana? >> reporter: josé, i would point out tijuana and san diego have

seen surges over the years. four or five years ago we had a crisis here with the famous my migrant caravan that overwhelmed the system. and there's the process mayorkas spoke with, using the app. there are a lot of issues with the app. what has gotten our attention the last few days is the camp behind me. this is a group of migrants that have been arriving -- well, more migrants are arriving adding to the camp. we came to the mexican side to get a view of that camp. we were on the other side yesterday, josé, and we saw border patrol come and take about 100 of these migrants yesterday, they took women, families, and we even saw babies in the crowd. this morning from the mexican side, we have a better point of

view, and we counted 300 to 350 of them that we can see, but we are told less than a mile down the hill there's another camp. these are migrants crossing into the united states illegally and turning themselves in and then requesting asylum. we have been told there's an update to the app and it could be working more efficiently. we have yet to see if that's happening. meanwhile in the city of tijuana, josé, i have been having conversations with immigration attorneys and workers that help the migrants, and they tell me things are much more organized, and the shelters are full so they go to hotels, and the camps we saw in matamoros, that's not happening in tijuana. on the san diego side, the migrants that get processed and will request asylum and receive

an opportunity to remain in the u.s., and they will get help from a lot of the organizations in san diego. i had a conversation with somebody that works with catholic charities in san diego this morning, she said we are prepared and we expect a lot of migrants to come in. the biggest difference between us and california and everybody else is we have been ready for this for years, josé. >> i don't even know if the word is, oh, the irony of an app that is supposed to be the way people can legally access their opportunity, and it's not really been working, it has been in existence for months now, and maybe, maybe, maybe, it will be fixed with an update. thank you both very much for being with us this morning. we know the names of the people killed in the nation's latest mass shooting.

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was not the only child that was murdered in this heinous act. we are learning the names of 8-year-old sophia mendoza, a second grader here. her sister, 11-year-old daniella mendoza, who was a fourth grader here, was also killed. and their mom remains in critical condition fighting for her life at this moment. there's also 32-year-old resrus who was killed along with christian lacour. his grandmother described him as a beautiful soul. and then also a 26-year-old engineer. his boss said she was like a daughter and she was looking forward to starting a life here, buying a home and starting a family and that is no longer an option for her and there are also three people that remain

hospitalized in critical condition, along with others in better condition but are also hospitalized. we are learning more about the hero officer that was already on scene when he heard those gunshots ring out and he ran towards that violence. he released a statement through an attorney and that attorney wrote, the officer sprinted towards high-power rifle fire as everybody else ran away. he's a brave servant with a gentle heart and embodies the law enforcement profession has to offer. he's doing well and would appreciate privacy as he continues to process the life-altering tragedy. i want to point out having spent the last couple days at the memorial, there are hundreds of survivors who are also grappling with how to move forward after this. yesterday we saw half a dozen people who were working here on that day who sheltered and feared for their lives, and they were inconsolable as they arrived at the memorial and they

knelt and prayed. one of them shouted out, thank you, jesus, because it could have been us. many of the survivors are returning today here in tears. and many said they came to the shopping center a couple times a month and it could have happened to anyone here, and it's devastating. there's so much trauma here. >> priscilla, what is the latest on the investigation, meanwhile? >> reporter: well, we are continuing to learn new details about the shooter as law enforcement and folks here with nbc are combing his social media pages. we're learning that in addition to the hundreds of posts and angry rants about jewish people, women, racial minorities, and he posted photos showing he spent thousands of dollars on guns and ammunition. we know that for about a year at least he had been posting photos

of the mall, and maps of the mall, and looking at the busiest times at the mall. there were cryptic posts in the past several weeks that could have planned to law enforcement that he was planning something. concerning things coming out as a result of looking at the social media accounts. we know law enforcement is expected to brief along with the fbi and the allen police department, and there are certainly going to be questions about whether or not they have determined a motive and whether or not the shooter was on their radar given all that we are finding online about him and his behavior. josé? >> katharine, i mean, just whether it could have been on the radar of people, the fact that he was buying ammunition, buying guns and posting on social media these horrible things. i am just wondering, how do you tie those things together if you are in law enforcement to avoid something like this from

happening? or is it even possible? >> well, that's the challenge, right? there's no end to what you can see online. there isn't way to see everything online. i think that what is different now, you know, we have always had bias and prejudice in this country, as elsewhere. the violence that goes with it, you know, yesterday beverly gauge, her fantastic nonfiction story about hoover and what the fbi was working on and no federal laws that really supported these types of investigations, so now we have a lot more laws, civil rights laws, and anti-lynching laws, and certainly federal jurisdiction, but we don't have a domestic terrorists law, and that would maybe potentially give us more ability to seek out

some answers. you know, the fact that there's the internet now and there was not in the '40s and '50s, it means many are being by standers, and they are seeing tattoos and not saying anything. >> what kind of up standards do you think could make a difference? >> i think when you talk about somebody who has a big nazi tattoo on their body, right, or more, who has patches that stand for the right-wing death squads, where these are extremist views where violence is their calling card. their violence is part of what makes them show their superiority, and it's part of their mission, and people around them need to be the ones who say i think this person is a

concern, they need to be on your radar. that's one thing that would help law enforcement. >> priscilla and katharine, thank you so much for being with us this morning. appreciate it. up next, we're live in israel where tensions are rising after israel launched deadly strikes into gaza overnight. and then we will tell you who is being blamed for the war in ukraine, and it's not russia. you're watching "josé diaz-balart reports". astepro starts working in 30 minutes. so you can [ spray, spray ] astepro and go. >> woman: why did we choose safelite? we were loading our suv when... crack! safelite came right to us, and we could see exactly when they'd arrive with a replacement we could trust. that's service the way we want it. >> singers: ♪ safelite repair, safelite replace. ♪

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28 past the hour. overnight israeli forces say they carried out strikes in gaza targeting the leadership of the islamic jihad, and the israeli defense force releases footage they say shows a strike on a commanding officer of the jihad on the gaza strip. nbc has not independently verified this video. 13 people were killed, including commanders, their wives and others near the strike. joining us at the iron dome battery, what are you tell us about where you are? there was a lot of deaths surrounding the individuals, too. >> reporter: well, josé, good morning. we are standing near an israeli

iron tomorrow missile defense battery and across the south of this country batteries like this are on high alert. the israeli military is expecting any minute now palestinian militant groups will strike. those strikes were focused on one of the men that was planning future attacks, but these strikes also killing ten civilians, including four young children, the youngest of whom, josé, was a 5-year-old girl. her funeral taking place in gaza earlier today. the israeli military says it does not deliberately target civilians but these strikes were carried out at 2:00 a.m. in residential areas when families were asleep so civilian

casualties almost inevitable, and this is collateral damage when you have militants operating out of the packed civilian areas in gaza. this level of civilian loss of life is unacceptable. we have yet to see any palestinian rockets fired from gaza, and in the last hour or so israel did carry out other strikes. this morning, russian troops took to the streets to commemorate may day as they continue to face combat challenges in ukraine. in a day that marks the 27 million people that soviet union lost in world war ii, russia struggles on the battlefield of ukraine and was reflected in the parade through red square. joining us is the former chess

champion. gary, always great to see you. appreciate your time. in his speech today, putin continued to frame russia as a victim saying in part, quote, real war is being waged against our motherland. what do you make of what putin has to say as we are entering, you know, another month of the russian invasion of ukraine? >> i don't pay any attention to what putin is saying, but we have to pay attention to what he's been doing. let's not forget almost every speech, he is saying we want peace. putin tried to pretend that russia is on the defense because it's a may day celebration. by the way, that's also a fake celebration because the war was started earlier.

but a special signing, that's why europe celebrates, but in the soviet union it was and still is may 9th. we just saw putin's desperate attempt to show that he is in control, and we know russia's loss on the frontline is continuing every hour. >> does putin have support of the russian armed forces that has been devastated in this, you know, invasion of ukraine and shown to be, well, what many thought they weren't? they are certainly not a powerhouse. how does putin continue to have allegiance of the military? >> let's not forget, th

attempted assassination of hitler failed, and putin pretends he's in control. we hear noises in certain corners. but seeing the up rising and the revolt and maybe a change of regime, it's ukraine with a victory. the minute the ukrainian troops and the peninsula and the ukrainian flag is raised, then we can expect regime change. right now the russian population and the russian army is not seeing the war as that, they think russia is on the offensive but they expect to hold the line, and it's 2,000 miles stretching from southern crimea to north ukraine. >> how do you see this ending, gary? >> there's only one way to end the war, which is ukraine's

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39 past the hour. this morning the e. jean carroll case will be sent to the jury. trump has denied the rape accusation. this is what some of the jury heard. >> i had no idea who she was, and it was her big claim to fame that she shook my happened at some celebrity event. >> joining us is katharine, an

msnbc legal analyst. you said the lead attorney for ms. carroll used his words against him. >> yes, what kaplan did is she had the jurors hear from him in any event. his "access hollywood" tape, which we all know where he talked about grabbing people by the p word, and she argued that was his confession. what she said, that's exactly what he did to ms. carroll, he grabbed her by the "p" word. he talked about how ms. carroll was not his type. well, he miss ids ms. carroll as being his second wife, marla maples, who was his type. he looks at the photo and points

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47 past the hour. let's look at the markets at this hour. not good. all in red. the dow jones down, and the s&p down 15, and the nasdaq down 66. apparently all eyes are on washington ahead of president biden's meeting with top lawmakers as part of the effort to raise the debt ceiling. joining us now with more is

nbc's dom chu. >> they are looking red, josé, but marginally so. what that tells you is there's not a massive amount of worry, at least for right now. it's not that i mean to say there isn't importance to this meeting or that there isn't the possibility for fireworks of some sort, but investors and traders are trying to be as measured as possible about what could come out of the big meeting this afternoon. there's not an expectation that there will be any kind of massive breakthrough in negotiations, and so you are seeing a kind of calm. where you are seeing more of an impact, your volatility is in the bond market side of things, specifically when it comes to u.s. treasuries. longer term interest rates have

not moved that much at all, but shorter maturity rates has seen a selloff, and for the shorter side of things, that, again, seems to be affected by the possible default as opposed to what the treasury looks like years from now. the base case for most of wall street, is america will avoid an actual default and pay what it owes to creditors, just as it always has. you have heard will get done eventually. back to you. >> thank you so very much. up next, we will speak with texas congresswoman veronica escobar about what's being done to help border towns as they manage the rise in people crossing the border.

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54 past the hour. the humanitarian crisis at the southern border. el paso is one of the epicenters, which is being felt across the border. officials are expecting more people to arrive once restrictions known as title 42 are lifted. with us to talk about that is congresswoman escobar. it's a treat to see you. thank you for your time. what's your read on how things are going -- how the federal government is handling this so far vis-a-vis border communities? >> thank you so much, jose. i appreciate your focus on this tremendous challenge. you know, we are addressing this in a number of ways. i am on the ground. i was on the ground last week. i'm in daily communication with my local leaders, which includes

the mayor, county judge, or border patrol chief and ngos that are helping address this challenge. at the national level, and under the administration, we have seen the administration really work within the confines of the laws that congress has written and within the confines of the resources that congress has provided. last year, jose, at the end of last year, the president and the department of homeland security asked for almost $5 billion in order to be prepared and ready for the end of title 42. republicans would not agree to that number. in fact, only agreed to half of it on the senate side. so we don't have the resources that we should have applied. but that's congress' fault. in fact, in the house, the vast majority of my house republican

colleagues voted against even that negotiated amount of resources. the administration is doing everything it can. those of us on the ground in border communities like el paso, we are doing everything we can. but it really remains on congress, not just to provide those resources, jose, but my hope is that this will be a moment where we can have some bipartisan solutions. i'm working on that. but we need our republicans and republican colleagues to be willing to work with us on those solutions. >> congresswoman, what are you basing that on? there hasn't been comprehensive immigration reform since 1986 when president reagan was in the white house. it doesn't seem like there's any real possibility of any bipartisan effort coming forward. >> well, i'm working on that, because truly, the only way we're going to address this, jose, is if both sides come

together. last congress, when house democrats were in charge and we had the majority, we passed immigration -- some immigration bills. but we could not get a significant number of our house republicans to join us. in the senate, as we know, you need a super majority. you need 60 votes on the senate side in order to get this done. we have to do this. the system is so outdated and broken. communities like mine are shouldering the brunt of the responsibility that comes with congressional inaction. every time i hear one of my congressional colleagues blame the administration, i think it's very important to hold up a mirror to congress and to say, it's on us to come together once and for us. >> everything could be doing probably more. look at these encounters in the month of march, it's at the

peril of everybody to not do enough. thank you so much for being with us. >> thank you. appreciate you. turning to breaking health news. the u.s. preventative service task force now recommends women get screened for breast cancer every other year, starting at age 40 instead of age 50, which was the age previously is a result of new evidence from the nationalcancer institute says the rate of cancer in their 40s has increased 2% per year. they say black women are 40% more likely to die from breast cancer than white women. 50 to 40. it's really important. before we go, fort hood has a new name.

they are now fort cavazos. the new name honors texas-born korean and vietnam war vet general richard edward cavazos. he was the first hispanic to reach the rank of brigadier general. he was the army's first hispanic four star general. fort hood among nine army installations that are taking on new names to replace those of confederate leaders. and that wraps up the hour for me. i'm jose diaz-balart. reach me on twitter and instagram @jdbalart. watch highlights are this show online. thank you for the privilege of your time. andrea mitchell picks up with more news right now. and right now on "andrea mitchell reports," the showdown. president biden and speaker mccarthy face to face this afternoon with their jobs on the line, flanked by congressional