and guidance for us, thank you so much. let's head back to the southern border now where our colleague, jose diaz-balart, is anchoring his show, jose, you arrived there recently. you've been there many times before. what strikes you as you are now taking in what's happening there? >> reporter: ana, good morning. the bells are ringing in sacred heart church. there are literally hundreds of people, men, women and children who have made probably the most dangerous trek you can imagine to try and get here and try to ask for asylum. that has not been possible for many for so many years because of title 42. that will change. we'll talk about that in just moments. ana, thank you. >> thank you, jose. go ahead. and good morning. it is 11:00 a.m. eastern, 8:00 a.m. pacific, 9:00 a.m. here in el paso, texas, i'm jose diaz-balart. we begin this hour with a final

countdown to the lifting of title 42. at 11:59 p.m. eastern, that's 9:59 p.m. here in el paso, the pandemic era border restrictions that allowed the u.s. to expel millions of migrants without allowing them to make asylum claims will go away. i am right here in the central part of el paso, on oregon street, sacred heart church is right beside me. i want to kind of give you perspective using our drone and this extraordinary team we have here on msnbc just where and how close we are to the mexican side. this is the church. this is oregon street. this goes right into downtown el paso and take a look at just maybe a block from where we are. that's the bridge, the international bridge that connects el paso to juarez where for generations thousands and thousands of people have used that bridge to cross through el

paso and juarez. it's almost like one city divided by the border. people come and go to school on one side. they do their shopping on the other. they live in the other. it's such a fluid area. but, for the last couple of years, this has also been the place where many, many migrants have come to cross to the united states and ask for asylum. i want to start our coverage with telemundo news anchor julio. as us you're doing the most extraordinary work for our communities. julio, tonight 11:59 eastern, title 42 goes away. what does that mean for people, what have you been seeing? >> thanks for having me, jose. essentially it means people will now be able to cross the border and their kays with be listened to and they will be -- the whole

process through which they will go through and that would make a huge difference to many of the migrants that got to the border and so far many of them were just expelled immediately, no questions asked. so that's the big change. however, i think, i believe according to the stories that i've heard from many migrants that most of them don't really know what title 42 means, don't really know how things will change for them once this is lifted. so there's a lot of confusion and a lot of uncertainty among this immigrants. >> we've seen on the street behind us in the morning literally there were dozens and dozens of people that slept there, it gets cold at night here even in may. >> very cold. >> they then now put away their stuff and it seems as though the ebb and flow changes in the streets of el paso depending on where the news is. >> totally. we just saw a few days ago how most of these migrants were sleeping here and camping here

on the sidewalks were told to go and go to another place then suddenly the scene changed completely. yesterday we were at the other side of the border in ciudad juarez and hundreds of migrants were waiting at the door at the gate next to the wall and they were just spending days there under very hard conditions with the sun, the cold, the wind, the dust and they were waiting there just see if they have an opportunity to be able to cross. >> what is -- why do they do what they do and do you think that the change from title 42 to title 8 is going to change their perspective and their reasons to do what they're doing? >> well, you know, jose, they are really looking for an opportunity, most of them are right now the people we are seeing waiting to be able to come in, most of them come from venezuela, so they are escaping from a dictatorship. they are escaping from poverty,

they are going through very hard conditions through a long, long trip, some of them have been traveling for seven months, they went through mexico and they're having a lot of difficulties and they are doing this just looking for an opportunity. that's the bottom line. now, will they stop looking for an opportunity once title 42 is lifted and title 8 comes? i don't think so. i mean, people will continue to try and get to the united states. now, the thing is they have to do it legally and through the pathways that are available to them, but they will keep on trying, i think. >> i want to bring in nbc news senior national correspondent tom llamas across the border in juarez. tom, good morning. so what are you seeing today this morning on that side of the border? >> reporter: jose, great to be with you and julio this morning. listen, there are new developments happening behind us. i want to show you what is happening. you recall's remember for the past few days we've had

hundreds, if not a thousand migrants in juarez on this section of the border. we woke up this morning and overnight, troops had shown up to the border. we believe them to be national guard troops because they are armed wearing camouflage patrolling the barbed wire section of the fence before you get to the border wall, and now you can see all these migrants lined up. before they were sleeping on the ground. a border agent came out, a border patrol agent demanded they all clean up their stuff and throw away their blankets and anything they didn't need and demanded they all line up. this is somewhat of an encouraging sign if you're one of these migrants because you've been waiting for days to be processed. the reality which many do not know is likely they will not be allowed into this country because they've crossed illegally and they are most likely going to be deported if their asylum cases are not accepted. about i'd say 20 minutes ago we saw something we haven't seen yet, we saw a man, a grown man fall to his knees and through the barbed wire we could see him, he was praying to the

heavens. i don't know what he was praying for, but this happened right after they demanded everyone line up. he started praying and prayed for about five minutes then got back into the line. so a lot of these migrants and the ones we've talked to and julio has had a similar experience, 90% i would say come from venezuela fleeing the regime and walked for months to reach this point and for many of them, this has been the toughest part, right, because they've been waiting out here in the blazing sun, yesterday we had a sandstorm. there were freezing temperatures overnight. it was about 50 degrees this morning. they spent days living like that and come to this reality and think they'll be allowed in and in many cases they probably will not. they will be deported. some may be released. we have seen that happen where they've been processed and released but most of these people should be deported. what the reality is going to be in a couple of months we'll have to wait and see. >> tom, there is so -- sometimes the gap between reality and

illusion can be so large. i'm just wondering, tom, you've been there and been there for so long and so many ties, is it that right now the efforts are to make it look like things aren't what they are or is it that we're seeing a change? >> i mean, look, there have been mixed messages, right? just yesterday there was a giant hole in the barbed wire fence that was allowing migrants to walk up and to reach this point right to the border wall. it was very simple. there are no mexican law enforcement authorities anywhere near this part of juarez, so it was very easy for migrants to cross illegally and to get up right to el paso up to that border wall. now these migrants have thought since they waited so long and, look, to be fair they got so much misinformation, misinformation on social media and brainwashed by coyotes they paid so much money to and even in el paso they're paying $50

for fraudulent immigration documents they think they need. they're getting ripped off left and right and lied to left and right and don't know what to believe. it's gotten so bad i spoke to families who registered with the cbp one app to make your appointment for an asylum hearing and even then after they have the appointment and they have the paperwork they're still not sure what to believe so there's a lot of mixed messaging and confusion. what we're seeing, the new developments clearly they want to control the crowd. they want to clear this area out and process all these migrants and then reinforce the border here. >> tom llamas, julio, thank you very much for being with us this morning. really appreciate it. up next president biden is facing criticism from within his own party over the end of title 42. we'll ask a white house official to respond when we come back in just 60 seconds. you're watching jose diaz-balart this morning reporting from elle pass to, texas.

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ten past the hour as title 42 is set to expire. texas is once again sending migrants from the border to washington, d.c. they're also sending people to new york and chicago, philadelphia. this morning a bus carrying more than 30 migrants mostly from venezuela arrived outside vice president kamala harris' residence. the arrival comes as homeland security secretary alejandro mayorkas is warning people not to make the dangerous journey to the u.s. >> do not risk your life and your life's savings only to be removed from the united states if, if and when you arrive here. we are making it very clear that our border is not open, that crossing irregularly is against the law, and that those who are not eligible for relief will be

quickly returned. >> with us now to talk more is blas nunes for border and immigration policy. i thank you so much for being with us this morning. so just to start things off, what changes tonight at 11:59 p.m. eastern time? >> good morning, jose and thank you so much for the opportunity to be with you today. so as i think your viewers know at 11:59 tonight, the public health emergency that has been in place, you know, by the department of health and human services now since 2020 will be expiring and that means our application of title 42 which is a department of health and human service related to that national public emergency will end as well and we will return to our traditional enforcement of title 8 immigration authorities. authorities that might add carry significant consequences for individuals who are removed that

do not exist for those expelled under title 42. >> explain what you mean by that. how are things going to change on that level? >> absolutely, so starting at midnight tonight everyone that we encounter at the border will be processed under our immigration authorities. they will be put through a process known as expedited removal to express fear of persecution before an asylum officer through a very fast process and those individuals who are found not to have a credible fear of persecution will be removed to their home country or potentially to mexico, which has announced just last week that for the first time ever really they will accept the return of non-mexican nationals from cuba, haiti and venezuela under our title 8 authority, individuals removed

under those authorities carry with them a five-year ban on re-entry to the u.s., which means they'll be ineligible for any benefit during that time and also potentially subject to criminal prosecution for repeated re-entry. >> there was the second plane ever of cubans sent back to cuba via air on wednesday, venezuelans have so far not been able to be sent back to venezuela. the same with haitians. are there agreements with the regimes in venezuela, with cuba? are you talking to haiti about returning people to those places? are there agreements with these regimes? >> so, you know, we have been removing people to cuba for a number of years. there was a pause during the pandemic, because of the restrictions, you know, related to the pandemic. those flights, as you noted,

resumed in april. we had our second flight since the temporary pause just yesterday. you know, we are in discussions with governments throughout the hemisphere to streamline and expand our ability to repatriate ability that exhausted all legal avenues to stay and ordered removed. one thing we're seeing at the border these days are people from countries we are not used to seeing, we are seeing thousands of colombian, peruvians, ecuadorians, venezuelans, nicaraguans, cubans and for many of them we didn't have the kinds of agreements we need to remove quickly. we've been working on that night and day with our state department colleagues over the last year and we do have agreements in place for many country, venezuela, nicaragua are challenging, we have limited diplomatic relations with those countries, but as i noted, the government of mexico will accept

removals of nationals of those countries because they are also subject to the parole processes that we have set up for those countries. >> bla nunez-neto, thanks for your time. up next we'll play for you -- thank you. up next we'll play for you what former president trump had to say about his controversial family separation policy and whether reinstated whether re-elected and how republicans are reacting to the indictments against congressman george santos. you're watching jose diaz-balart reporting this morning from el paso, texas.

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when pressed on his immigration policy, trump did rule out the possibility of separating families once again if the u.s. southern border if he is re-elected. >> well, when you have that policy, people don't come. if the family hears that they're going to be separated, they love their family, they don't come. >> would you reimplement that if re-elected? >> we have to save our country. >> joining us now with more is victoria francesco-soto dean of the university of arkansas and with us is former ohio governor and 2016 presidential candidate john kasich, an msnbc political analyst. governor, do you see any political benefits or consequences for trump implying he will double down on separating families if reelected? >> jose, i think donald trump is an avatar for the angry and

frustrated and so people who, you know, who are his supporters look at the border and say what a mess, build a wall, that will fix everything and the idea you'll use children as pawns in this -- what i would call a deadly political game, it's par for the course for him and just completely and totally outrageous. who knows what the guy would do if he got in? thankfully i don't think he can get in. i don't think he can win a general election. what we witnessed last night was the theater of the absurd. a tinging to say things people know aren't true, some of his folks continuing to buy in, and, you know, this whole business of immigration, what we tend to forget, jose, is that we're all children made by the same god, and that we have to respect one another and care for one another and what has happened on this immigration policy, not having a guest worker program, not having an asylum system that is

actually humane with more judges and space for people to be. and the idea we'll separate children from their parents or from whoever is bringing them in here is just flat out dead wrong and then this all results in the fact that many of these migrant children, we find them working in places where they're not safe. this is a travesty. both parties are contributing to what's happening here for political reasons and, of course, donald trump always plays to those who are aggrieved and upset, frustrated and angry. it's terrible for our country. >> and, victoria, do you think what this situation is today, what it's been for six years, is that going to have a -- is that going to play a major part in 2024? it just seems like this is so massive and yet there doesn't seem to be a lot of political necessity to deal with this, victoria.

>> jose, you know perfectly well that our immigration system has been broken for decades, there hasn't been any major movement on immigration really since the '90s and i might even kick it back to 1986 so we have been limping along with our immigration system so the pressure has been building and i do think in the lifting of title 42 i am trying to be optimistic that this might be the push needed to bring parties to the table to reform our immigration system and it's all parts of our immigration cisco. it's our asylum and refugee component. it's our guest worker component. it's figuring out how we supply more infrastructure in terms of judges and in terms of regional processing centers across latin america to do that, do i hope there will be a reform of that

caliber? i do. do i think it will happen quickly, no. but this is where the biden administration through its infrastructure of homeland security and state department can move the needle in terms of doing a better job of processing folks coming to the united states and not using a wall or border patrol as our only means of immigration enforcement. >> so, john, meanwhile, todd young now indicating that he will not support trump's latest presidential bid after last night. do you think this is something that other republicans could be doing in the future? >> yeah, well, you know, politically they're kind of protecting themselves still. look, there's no question that his performance last night is conviction in new york is going to turn off more women. what impact it has on the republican party and republican women, we're just going to have to wait for a couple of days to

see, but, look, it's an accumulation. you hope the dam will break sooner rather than later and republican donors, republican activists have to figure out what is the other choice? who can be viable? who has the ideas? who can raise the money to actually beat trump in the primary? that's where we are right now. one more word about immigration, jose. the problem is, people who are on the left don't like the idea of any border security or very little border security. people on the right all they say is well just build a wall and that will fix it. what is missing in this, jose, and i know what a decent man you are, and what a decent person this -- your guest is here, who i hope i have the opportunity sometime to meet. we're talking about human beings, some who are leaving places where their lives are threatened, their children's lives are threatened, and yet we can't seem to come up with

something to make the sense we need and there is a rational way to get it done. senator cornyn and senator sinema apparently are working on something and hopefully that can light a fire, create a spark where we can actually have a rational approach to this issue of immigration and what we do with the human lives involved. >> victoria and former governor john kasich, thanks for being with us. it really does boil down to men, women, and children. coming up, new york congressman george santos is expected back on capitol hill today after pleading not guilty to a 13-count indictment wednesday including wire fraud, money laundering, theft of public funds and making false statements to the house of representatives. santos says he won't resign. nbc's ali vitali is joining us with that. what are the santos fellow republicans saying, especially

mccarthy to all of this? >> reporter: well, look, what speaker mccarthy is saying does not necessarily track with what santos' own fellow members from the new york delegation are saying. look, that's been true even before the charges came down but certainly in new light now given the fact that he was in court yesterday pleading not guilty and vowing he wasn't going anywhere. santos is not changing his posture, clearly. we expect to see him back in washington at some point today. certainly our eyes are peeled for that. in the meantime, the only posture shift has come from the perspective what could happen in the future. speaker mccarthy not saying he should resign now but he is not going to back his re-election bid. watch. >> santos said he's running for re-election. will you support him? >> i'm not going to support him. >> you're not. >> i think he has other things to focus on. >> you don't plan to support him for re-election? >> that's what i said.

>> reporter: look, he's lost mccarthy's support. that shouldn't be surprising given the fact that republicans know they have to field the stronger candidate but aware of on the ground sentiment after prolonged months of santos scandal and legal scandal in addition to the chatter happening before only makes it harder, jose. >> ali, thank you so very much. meanwhile here in el paso, there is a state of emergency ahead of the policy change at the border. we'll talk about this and a whole lot more with the mayor of el paso next. you're watching "jose diaz-balart reports." just one sheet helps remove pet hair from your clothes! looking good starts in the dryer with bounce pet.

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julia ainsley is at the border here in el paso. she joins us this morning. julia, good morning. what is expected to happen once title 42 ends? >> reporter: yeah, jose, probably just a few miles away from you. behind me is a wall separating us from juarez. i've seen migrants come through in groups where they're processed and brought into the country and tylee right now i don't think many realize this but only 17% of the migrants who have crossed in recent days have been sent back under title 42. so for the vast majority title 42 isn't really impacting their live, but what they predict is lifting of title 42, more people are attracted to the border, they think it's the time to come. numbers increasing, over 11,000. those could rise higher and say the processing times could lead to backlogs and they're worried that could mean that they'll have to release more of them onto the streets without a court date, without ways to track them. there are other things they're doing to try to make it harder

to come here, in fact, raising the bar on asylum. if you've crossed through a country like mexico and didn't first claim asylum, you could be ineligible. it could be they could very rapidly expedite those people and remove them. it's a question to see exactly how things are going to look. they're trying to make it tougher, at the same time these covid-19 restrictions lift, but i do think at least in the short term we'll see many more migrants coming to cities like these, jose. >> julia ainsley, i thank you so much. joining us talk more is the mayor of elle, oscar leaster. paint the picture of what your city is going through today. >> what we're going through today we prepared for days, we prepared for weeks and as you can see it's been a lot worse than it was in december when you were here but we've been having a lot of coordination with the federal government. we're having cord with cbp,

border patrol, customs, i.c.e., you can see the streets here on monday were probably two, three times worse than december but have had a lot of coordination to help the asylum seekers to get processed and make sure they follow the immigration laws. the city of el paso, we don't do immigration law. we're here to protect visitors but makes sure they continue to stay safe and it's been really a great process and that's why you see we've had many more numbers. we're the epicenter but we've got a lot of coordination. >> what keeps you up at night? >> what keeps me up at night i tell people is the lack of light. >> what do you mean. >> i don't see light at the end of the tunnel. the federal government has been really, really great for us and have given us the resources to continue to do this but really the immigration process is broken and so congress and senate agree to disagree and they need to come up with a process that works. there is no end game and makes

it tough for a community like el paso. >> we will meet in a couple of minutes a family i spoke with last night. they came from venezuela, took them a month to get just from the jungles to el paso. one month. what they lived through was the most horrendous experience, a mother, her husband, their child and their grandchild and they're actually separated here tonight. they were at a shelter last night. one of the thing, mayor, they talk about is just how ruthlessly evil people can be on the way to the united states and now here they have found open arms. but this city is known for that. how long and how many people can this city include? >> i think it's important when they do come in we treat them with respect. and, again, we want to make sure our asylum seekers are protected, our community is protected. they're coming not to el paso

but the united states and we're here to serve and help. the "a" number is had they're registered they're free to move around the united states and free to move around el paso so our job make sure we help them go to the destination of their choice but, again, a lot of them have the funding and sponsored and meeting family and meeting the -- their friends so have a job set up and we want to make sure we coordinate and work with them. they determine the city. our job is to help them. we have to decompress our system. we couldn't have them all stay in el paso. that's not what they're coming to do. they're here to be in the u.s. >> i know you have such a great close relationship with juarez. i mean, you go there. it's so many thousands of people for generations have seen these two cities, almost two wings of one bird. how do you see this tunnel ending? >> well, again, you know, both governments and other

governments around the nation have to work together. i was there yesterday and the week before. the numbers we saw a week ago, we were talking about 15,000 plus. yesterday we saw between 8,000 and 10,000 prepared to come. the important part is the borders are closed today. the borders will be closed after title 42 is over with then you go to title 8 and people are under the misconception and brought here saying once you get in there the borders are open and i did a couple of interviews today and when i was doing the interview they asked, so what's going to happen when the border opens when title 42 expires? that's not a true statement. we need to continue to work with our federal governments and continue to work to then hem implement federal laws because the city of el paso does not do federal law but we are here to provide a service because we are a border community and do have a responsibility to our visitors and, again, the citizens of el paso. >> mayor leeser, i appreciate your time. we will talk to an immigration attorney about the

reality for so many and what's next to migrants once title 42 lifts. plus, our conversation, we're just talking about it to the mayor about a venezuelan family at a shelter here in el paso. the grandmother telling me she is still living in a nightmare she just can't wake up from. you're watching "jose diaz-balart reports" from el paso, texas. from prom dresses to workouts

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the way. here in el paso ahead of the end of title 42, i had the opportunity to meet an extraordinary family, a family who spoke about their reality and their journey from venezuela. mari, a grandmother who traveled with her husband and their daughter and their granddaughter. says they handed themselves to immigration officials through gate 40. she was separated from her husband when they surrendered to u.s. authorities at the border and they've been told he will be deported. mari is making the tough choice to return to venezuela with her husband, deported, leave her daughter and granddaughter here in the u.s. here's part of our conversation. >> tough. how is it going to be when you have to say good-bye to your daughter and to your granddaughter? [ speaking non-english ]

how are you going to say good-bye? [ speaking non-english ] >> reporter: "god will give me the strength." [ speaking non-english ] >> reporter: "at least i know that my granddaughter will have a better future here and one day, one day we'll be able to see each other again." >> reporter: the end of title 42 raises question, so many questions about what will happen to families like this one who cross the border who went through the most horrible situation just to get here. with us is cynthia lopez, immigration attorney here in el paso and, cynthia, thank you so much for being with us. this is just one of the thousands of stories of people, men, women and children who make that journey to try and reach the american dream.

is there hope for her, for example, in her case? >> well, for -- that's one of the differences happening with title 8 and title 42 about they are going to be processed under title 8 there is going to be repercussions in the future, criminal, civil and immigration repercussions in the future. for her it's possible, yes, if they put them through the credible fear process. >> it's difficult now and changes after 42. what do you see happening after 42 ends? >> so, 42, once 42 ends title 8 goes into effect but yesterday the biden administration announced there is going to be stricter policies we think will make it hard are for those seeking asylum and so, you know, the open borders as the mayor was saying it's not true. we think the new policies that the biden administration is putting into effect will make it a lot harder. >> i'm wondering, cynthia, you were born and raised here, you

have a family, a growing family. >> yes. >> here in el paso. what do you see when you see these men, women and children that are here? what do you see in them? >> it's really hard for us because, you know, i do, i do immigration defense so i do a lot of removal work when people have come here seeking asylum, it's really hard for us because we see how difficult the system is, how broken the system is. so we see a lot of desperation and a lot of people really desperate situation, dangerous desperate situations so a little frustrating with us for the system we work in. i think, you know, nobody is necessarily advocating open borders. what we want is a system that works and it's frustrating because congress has to act and so a lot of times our hands are tied in the cases where there's not a lot we can do and under title 42 it was incredibly frustrating because people weren't even allowed to present their cases or make their claims. that's the good thing about it ending but new restrictions

coming into place will possibly be even worse. >> cynthia, what would be a solution? >> change in legislation, i mean, we need congress to act. we need -- there's changes that even little changes, it doesn't even have to be a whole overhaul but right now asylum does not exist. even just in el paso, our judges have less than a 5% approval rating on asylum cases. once they're able to present their case, it's more likely than not their case will be denied anyways. >> cynthia lopez, i appreciate you coming in. >> thank you for having me. up next, most migrants have no food, no shelter, or other necessities once they cross the border. we'll talk to someone helping them with that. you're watching "jose diaz-balart reports" on msnbc from el paso. now ports can know where every piece of cargo is. and where it's going. (dock worker) right on time. (vo) robots can predict breakdowns

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52 past the hour. a look at the state of our economy. this morning, a new report shows wholesale prices ros .2% and another sign inflation is easing. another record shows jobless claims rose to their highest level since 2021. they increased by 22,000. joining us is dominic chu. >> what it shows is that there are signs of a slowing economy. how slow will it get?

will it lead to a recession? if so, how deep, how dire? those are all questions being poised to investors and traders and things that central bankers, including at the federal reserve and around the world, are watching closely. for now, it's the latest sign that perhaps the fed's campaign to raise interest rates in an effort to quell the biggest inflationary threat in 40 years is working. while we did see bigger gains in the prices consumers pay in yesterday's data, today's business or wholesale level inflation data came in marketed -- markedly lower. they help shape the view of economists. it's been eight months in a row we have seen producer prices fall on a year over year basis. in september of last year, we were running at 8 1/2 percent annual clip. now it's 2.3%. the jobs numbers that you mentioned are showing signs of a

slowdown but not by a massive amount. the first-time jobless benefit claims hit 264,000, the highest since october of 2021, as you point out. but they are near low levels, which has some folks constructive on the overall economy. it's a slowdown without massive job losses. again, this is factoring to the fed's rate decision later this summer. >> thank you so very much. right now, right here along the southern border, communities are preparing for what the end of title 42 may mean. it's an unknown. food banks like this one, el paso taking care of those who may need a helping hand. they have been doing it for days and weeks. joining us now is the organization's ceo. thank you very much for being with us. >> it's great to be here. >> i see one of your trucks are here. this is not something you started today. >> no. we've been doing this for weeks.

we do it when there are surges in migrants in our community. for example, back in december we were hitting a high of about 6,000 meals a day we were providing. >> now? >> right now, you are seeing us at a lull. two days ago, we were providing about 3,000 meals a day. >> you work with 130 partners across the area. what are the needs that you have right now to help serve people? >> we are anxiously looking for ready to eat foods. none of the migrants here have a kitchen to take items home and cook those items. everything has to be ready to eat. we are making sandwiches. we are getting fruits like apples and other items, yogurt, granola bars. anything we can get our hands on that they can quickly consume without worrying it will go bad. >> there's food insecurity for many in el paso on a daily basis. >> we. serve certain about 150,000 people who come to us regularly

to put food on their table. >> what do you see when you see these men, women, and children here? >> it's very hard to look in the eyes of these folks, particularly the children, and not feel compassion for them. many of these folks will be future americans. i hope that they remember just a little bit of the kindness they are shown here on the border when they come to our country. >> how is it that we can help you help them? >> we are always looking for support, whether it's volunteers or funding to get the food supplies and the manpower necessary to feed this large influx of migrants. it's not just today. this is a regular occurrence here on the border. we have to not only feed people today but prepare for the future. >> what is it that you expect coming tomorrow at 11:59 p.m. eastern time? >> that is incredibly hard to say. we are hearing thousands and

thousands of migrants, just on the other side of the border, preparing to come across. it will also depend on actions of border patrol and government. that makes things very unpredictable. >> susan, thank you so very much for being with us. it's so important to see how much you are doing to serve so many. i thank you very much. >> thank you. before we go, i just want to kind of take you here to where the church is. we are just saying hello to these people as we wrap things up. you are from venezuela. how long did it take you to get here? two months? three months. two months and three months. why are you coming? to work and to study and to have

a good future. they were six years in peru and now they are here. a lot of crime. they received the processing. how do you feel? good? happy. i'm going to say good-bye to you all from el paso. we will be here tomorrow. this is part of what is happening here in el paso. men, women, and children who are in the process. thank you for the privilege of your time. andrea mitchell picks up with more news right now. right now on "andrea mitchell reports," armed troops and more fencing at the border as thousands wait for title 42

to be lifted at midnight, hoping to cross into the u.s. an influx underway in anticipation of the end of covid-era restrictions. did the administration do enough to get ready? we will have live reports from the border. also this hour, the debt ceiling deadline with a second meeting tomorrow between the president and congressional leaders. i will talk to a top ranking treasury official about what could happen if they don't find a solution. former president trump ripping through lies in a town hall in new hampshire, including he was elected, not joe biden. despite the violence on january 6, praising the rioters and dangling pardons if he becomes president again. >> they were there proud. they were there with love in their heart. that was an unbelievable -- it was a beauty it will day. >> will you pardon the january 6 rioters who were convicted of federal offenses? >> i am inclined to pardon many of