to cross into the u.s. an influx underway in anticipation of the end of covid-era restrictions. did the administration do enough to get ready? we will have live reports from the border. also this hour, the debt ceiling deadline with a second meeting tomorrow between the president and congressional leaders. i will talk to a top ranking treasury official about what could happen if they don't find a solution. former president trump ripping through lies in a town hall in new hampshire, including he was elected, not joe biden. despite the violence on january 6, praising the rioters and dangling pardons if he becomes president again. >> they were there proud. they were there with love in their heart. that was an unbelievable -- it was a beauty it will day. >> will you pardon the january 6 rioters who were convicted of federal offenses? >> i am inclined to pardon many of them.

i can't say for every single one. a couple of them probably they got out of control. >> good day. i'm andrea mitchell in new york today. border patrol agents and heavily armed texas national guard troops are bracing for the expiration of title 42, put in place during the coronavirus pandemic to turn away migrants. a shortage of social services and judges to handle the flow. officials expect an increase along the 1,000 miles of the b border, creating a situation the president described as chaotic. joining me guad venegas and julia ainsley, 700 miles to the east in el paso, texas. julia, you have been covering this throughout the biden presidency. you have been there for weeks at the border.

take us through the new rules the administration is putting in place and what you are seeing in texas. >> reporter: right behind me is a wall separating us here in el paso from suarez. they are put into buses here. they are taken to be processed. the chief of the border patrol told us that 17% of more than 11,000 that crossed on tuesday were actually sent back. what they are worried about is whether title 42 lifts more will come because they think there's an ease in restrictions and it will take them longer to process. they are worried about overcrowding and how it will impact cities like el paso. jose just interviewed the mayor. here is what he had to say. >> we prepared for weeks. the city of el paso, we don't do immigration law. we are here to protect but also make sure the community stays and continues to be safe.

>> what keeps you up at night? >> what keeps me up at night, i tell people, is the lack of light. >> what do you mean? >> i don't see the light at the end of the tunnel. there's no end game. >> reporter: there is no end game. that is really what i'm hear, even from dhs officials. they feel like they are at the breaking point before they get to the starting line. we are here now trying to watch this historic day as title 42 lifts tonight. see what the fallout is like tomorrow. it's a story we will have to watch for weeks to see if more migrants who haven't left their homes yet might be motivated to come here when the policies change. we have to realize the biden administration, while lifting title 42, is putting in place more restrictive policies to raise the bar on claiming asylum. >> make it harder to get across to get processed here. thank you so much, julia, for all your reporting.

guad, the border crossing in san diego, it's one of the most well-known, heavily trafficked in the country. how are the border patrol agents and active duty service members preparing there? >> reporter: andrea, it's a very busy port of entry. we are miles away from there. the infrastructure that exists in san diego is quite different from what they have in el paso. this city has been dealing with surges for years now. they have two border barriers in san diego that go from the ocean and extends throughout most of the city. immigration is controlled in a different way here. we have a migrant camp growing for the last few days in this part of san diego, between san diego and tijuana. it's becoming a humanitarian crisis. it probably is. it started with a few individuals that arrived attempting to turn themselves in to seek asylum. every day it has been growing by the hundreds. now we have numerous families, children as you can see. you can see a mother walking,

carrying a child. as far as we can see, this campsite keeps growing. these are individuals that have crossed over the first barrier to enter the united states waiting for border patrol to pick them up so they can turn themselves in and seek asylum. the crowds here have remained at the border. we have not seen migrants try to enter the united states and go into san diego. they are waiting for border patrol. agents have told us that the facilities here are at capacity. that's why they can't take them in. they are bringing in smaller groups. we have seen them take in some of the migrants that are sick or that are hurt. we have seen them take in families, women. but it's been a slow process. they have no more space at the processing facilities. this group is growing. when we have a conversation with the people that are arriving, they do tell us that even if they don't understand immigration policy or the changes that are coming, they think that whatever is coming is going to make things more

difficult. some of them are correct in thinking that. others tell us that they think that once title 42 is lifted, the border might open. the confusion we have been seeing when it comes to their understanding of what may happen. >> guad and julia, thanks so much to both of you, two ends of the border. more to come on the political fallout to come. the game plan. what can the biden administration do with title 42 hours away from expiring? thousands of migrants waiting at the border. two former top obama security officials joining us next when "andrea mitchell reports" is back in just 60 seconds. who needs that much more tide? (crashing sounds) everyone's gonna need more tide. it's a mess out there. that's why there's 85% more tide in every power pod. -see? -baby: ah. - representative! - sorry, i didn't get that. - oh buddy! you need a hug. you also need consumer cellular.

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a taller fence has been put behind the barbed-wire. >> the expiration of the title 42 policy presents the administration with challenges, with the potential influx of asylum seekers on the way. joining us now, ben rhodes and former homeland security secretary jeh johnson. mr. secretary, it appears that the expiration, we knew it was coming. have they done enough? they sent 1,500 -- we talked about this -- active duty unarmed troops. we see heavily armed texas national guard men and i presume women across the border from where our folks are. >> first, the comment from the mayor of el paso, what keeps you up at night, what's the end, reminded me of a conversation i had in 2014 when ben and i were

in office and i asked a border security expert, is there a point where these countries in central america, the population is saturated? it's emptied out. the answer that came back was, no. they will keep coming. the biden administration is emphasizing the enforcement message that we have, our title 8 authority, now that title 42 is going away. if you come here the wrong way, we will send you back. that's a message they have to continually send. so long as the underlying conditions -- ben knows this. as long as the underlying conditions in central america persist, they will keep coming. they are making families -- they are fleeing a burning building. they are better off, their children are better off here in the united states if for only a couple of years while their asylum claim is pending. >> ben, for years i have been

hearing officials -- your administration, previous administrations -- very little was done in the last four years before biden came in, to deal with it in those countries, to do more in all kinds of foreign aid. that was reduced before president biden came in. now we are being told about regional processing centers from the state department, two days ago. it's going to take a long time to stand those up. people are having trouble with the app that's been deployed. somewhat of deja vu with the obamacare rollout. the fixes don't always work as planned. >> jeh has it right in the sense that you are not going to stop the images that we are seeing. you are not going to stop the tens of thousands of people coming to the border in the next few months or even the next couple of years just through policies that you pursue in central and latin america.

that doesn't mean we don't do that though. we should be doing everything we can to address every aspect of the push factors driving people to the border. in some cases, our own policies are contributing to that. you mentioned cuba -- venezuela. the embargo we have on cuba and venezuela are contributing to the crisis. there are things we can do to provide assistance to those countries where they are putting in place protections around governance and construction. there are things we could do in revising sanctions policies to get at those push factors. however, in the short and medium-term, as jeh says, you need an enforcement message. you need communication into those communities in central america about the difficulties of getting across. don't assume that if you get to the u.s. border that you are going to get in. i think a lot of times there's

confusion. traffickers and smugglers tell people, give us a few bucks and you will get in. part of what the u.s. do is -- they have processinging centers it takes part away from the border. and communication so they aren't misled into thinking they will have an easy time once they get to the border. >> regarding cuba -- you know the policy very well. president biden had the option of doing something about that. to the frustration -- we're not saying anything has improved, in fact, to the contrary about the human rights issues down there. those sanctions could have been addressed and other aspects could have been addressed, but because of politics they have not wanted to touch that. right? >> that's exactly right. jeh was part of this.

part of the plan was that if we were relaxing our sanctions, life is improving for the people of cuba. their economic circumstances are improving. they are empowered by the internet. we changed our migration policy so they didn't get automatically paroled in the united states, under the presumption things would get better in cuba. when donald trump tried to roll back everything we had done, it created a real acute humanitarian crisis in cuba where people just can't get food to survive. they are coming to the u.s. border in enormous numbers that we haven't seen in many, many years. this is an obvious thing that's sitting right in front of the biden administration to go back to the kind of openness we had in the obama years, make life better for the cuban people and deal with a push factor. the only thing in the way -- a lot of those people were part of the same policies -- is politics. right now the politics they will face at the border, i would argue, are worse than having a

few angry members of congress if they revert to the obama policy on cuba. >> let me share with you -- talking about politics, because it's playing on both sides. there was a bus of 30 people, poor souls loaded on a bus, we believe somewhere in texas, arriving in washington, d.c. outside vice president harris' house today and being taken to shelters. the shelters in d.c. as well as the shelters in chicago and new york are completely overloaded. >> andrea, there needs to be a nationally coordinated effort for how we resettle migrants in the interior of the united states. it shouldn't be left to greg abbott and ron desantis to decide where migrants go. you end up with political stunts where you have busloads showing up here in new york. there's a smart way to do this.

ben knows this. seven, eight years ago we called around the country to various different governors to take their share of refugees that we were resettling coming from iraq and syria. obviously, it wasn't these kinds of up ins. but part of seeing this kind of resettlement has to involve doing it intelligently, resettling the people across the country. >> an election year, the chances of that are nil. in any case, there's a house bill going to the floor today, mostly symbolic, with mostly enforcement and nothing else, none of the other social services needed. thank you to you for your perspectives and your experience, most importantly. the impact statement, with the debt limit deadline limbing, the focus on how going over the fiscal cliff will affect all of us.

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whatever talks we have, you can tell right then, he doesn't want to deal. he wants to default. >> president biden wants to default? joining me now, deputy treasury secretary. mr. secretary, thank you very much. let me ask you about that. the talks are about to take place tomorrow. the staff are meeting today. the speaker of the house says the president wants a default. >> thanks for having me. we have heard the president on several occasions, even yesterday, talk about the need for congress to raise the debt limit because the alternative is catastrophe. our troops wouldn't get paid. the seniors wouldn't get paid. the president has called on congress to raise the debt limit.

>> i want to get to your reaction to former president trump saying the u.s. should default. this is what he said on cnn last night. >> i say to the republicans out there, congressmen, senators, if they don't give you massive cuts, you will have to do a default. it could be very bad. it could be nothing. maybe you have a bad week or a bad day. >> we should point out that's not what he said when he was president and got congress to go along with a lot of democratic support three times to avoid a default and raise the debt ceiling. in any case, what could be the impact given his leadership of the republican party of him urging a hard line? >> andrea, the most important point is the one you made. three times in the last administration without negotiations congress raised the debt limit to prevent default. they have done it 78 times since 1960, with democrats and republicans agreeing that paying our bills is something the

united states must do and something we have done for the last 200 years. my expectation and what i have heard from democrats and republicans is that it's unacceptable to default on our bills to our seniors, to default on our bills to our troops, unacceptable to default on our bills to all americans. that's why we expect people to raise the debt limit as soon as possible. >> mr. trump said it would be a bad week or a bad day. give us a scale of what it would be like. this is something that's never before happened in history. >> andrea, it's important to note the united states has never defaulted on its bills. the u.s. economy, u.s. treasury at the center of the global economy, if we were to default on our debts, it would be a can a tras trophy not just for financial markets but for the american bhoz come to rely on payments from the government. think about seniors who have worked their entire lives and paid into social security. the default would mean we would

be unable to pay them money they have earned. think about our troops who are serving our country bravely. the default would mean we would be unable to pay them. in addition to the catastrophe for the global economy and the 401(k)s of americans, it would be an individual catastrophe for millions of americans if the united states didn't do what it has done 78 times since the 1960s, which is raise the debt limit and assure we don't default on commitments we have made to americans and people around the world. >> to those who have seen us go through government shutdowns before, which is a different process, i know, because we are talking about defaulting on the credit of the dollar, of the u.s. government. can you get a bridge loan, can you borrow money, pay the military, make choices, pay social security, cut someplace else? is that what goes on? you move the pieces around until you get a solution? >> andrea, there's no way to

stop the catastrophe that would be the fault if congress doesn't raise the debt limit. all of the alternatives that people have come up would mean that for the first time in the history of the united states we didn't meet all of our commitments on time. it would be devastating for our economy. it would be an opportunity to present to china and russia that the united states does not stand up to its commitments. it would mean for the first time in our history, instead of the united states paying our bills, we have decided not to pay the people we owe. you know this well. our economy is growing today. we created more than 200,000 jobs last month. inflation is coming down. what private sector analysts have said is if we defaulted on our debt, we would lose millions of jobs. the economy would go into a recession that would be more sigg under than what we faced at lehman collapse. that's why we expect congress to avoid default and raise the debt limit. >> the president did suggest the other day that if this is not

resolved by next week, he would at least consider not going to the g7 summit next week, where russia and china are on the agenda. could that actually take place? could he cancel the trip to japan? >> andrea, i'm not going to get into the president's schedule. the last thing the united states needs at a moment where russia has invaded ukraine and we are dealing with threats around the world is to be in a position where we are focus odden a manufactured crysy that is the potential default on our debt. we should have congress raise the debt limit to focus on how we make investment to the u.s. economy, how we can demonstrate strength to our allies and partners that the united states is a reliable partner going forward. that's why the president called on congress to raise the debt limit as soon as possible. >> have talks gone well at the staff level? >> i'm not going to get into private conversations that happened at staff level. those conversations continue. those conversations are about our belief that we need to have

a fiscal path going forward. the president's proposed budget that would reduce the deficit by $3 trillion over the next ten years, he made commitments to making investments in the u.s. economy. the speaker has an alternative plan. his plan calls for cuts to veteran services, also cuts to the money that we would able to provide to local communities and cutting money for the irs, money that's goinger tos helping to go after tax cheats, who are wealthy, and also to provide services for the american people. we are happy to talk about those conflicting plans and how we can find a path forward. we're not happy to do it in a way that would allow -- that would hold the specter of defaulting to our creditors and seniors and troops. >> thank you very much for being with us. >> thanks for having me. defiant. george santos with no plan to resign his seat as he faces multiple federal criminal charges, including lying to

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statements to the house and theft of public funds. that alleged theft includes thousands of dollars in covid unemployment benefits. the indicted congressman is expected back on capitol hill today where the house is ironically preparing to vote on a bill that he co-sponsored to reign in unemployment insurance fraud, one of the very crimes he is accused of. joining me now is capitol hill correspondent ali vitali. talk to me about the irony of that and the vote coming up on unemployment insurance fraud as well as where they stand -- the speaker on george santos. >> reporter: real life is stranger than fiction sometimes. with the santos story, it feels like that all the time. today just another moment of irony as santos, you are right, comes back from pleading not guilty and one of the charges that he has pleaded not guilty to is the bill he co-sponsored on unemployment fraud that they are voting on today before getting out of town a day early. notably what's changed here in

the time that santos has been away and indicted is not the support that he is getting from the speaker in terms of having him stay in congress for this term, mccarthy said he will let this process play out, even as people say that santos should be expelled or resign, but what mccarthy is saying is that he is not going to back santos' re-election bid. we know santos has been defiant not just in saying what you played just now, which is that he will fight this in court, but also in saying he thinks he is going to be a chairman several years from now remaining in the house. the fact that he doesn't have the backing of the speaker shouldn't necessarily be surprising. but the speaker still hasn't gone so far as to say santos should resign. we will see him in the next little while. we will keep our eyes peels. >> i know you will. ali vitali, thank you. borderlines. house republicans gear up for a part line show vote on a bill to

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technology and a restart of border wall construction. more than 11,000 migrants were apprehended monday. joining me now is congressman jim clyburn. it's good to see you. thank you very much, congressman. >> thank you very much for having me. >> how concerned do you think the biden campaign should be about the political fallout from lifting title 42? >> all of us are very, very concerned about this, as you know. there's a big contradiction existing here. all week i have been visited by people from my congressional district wanting us to do something about visas. they need people in various occupations to come to the country. but we want to orderly and

legally. that's the conflict. how do we balance these things out? look to your representative escobar for leadership and guidance on this issue. they have been doing a good job of keeping our caucus informed and in touch with what we ought to be doing. >> i know this is a failed immigration policy that goes back decades and decades. it's bipartisan. it's in joe biden's lap in a re-election year. it's not something you fix easily. is there a way to mitigate it? is this something you have to deal with? it's a human tragedy, most importantly. >> it is a tragedy. we are going to deal with it as best we can. i think the homeland security secretary said to us yesterday that we look for some chaotic

situations to occur as we close out this particular phase, which will happen around midnight tonight, and a new policy will be in place starting tomorrow. any time you start anything new, there will be some kinks that you will have to work out. i suspect we will have that situation here starting tomorrow. let's hope we can get this done in a way that people will remain compassionate and do it as efficiently and effectively as we possibly can. >> let me ask you about a couple things the speaker said today. he said he will not back santos' re-election. but he is not going to push him out of the house, not until the charges and the trial are processed. there's plenty of precedent of democratic leaders letting their party members stay on after indictment through a trial.

is that the appropriate measure? >> i don't think anything the speaker has said thus far goes outside of what has been tradition here in the house. people are always presumed innocent until proven guilty. we have to get the proof. there are a lot of accusations going around about mr. santos, some of which i believe, some of which i think may not be all that accurate. but we have a process. we will go through the process. we will see what the judicial process will yield. i don't want anybody to jump to conclusions about mr. santos or anybody else. let the process work. then let us take action. >> let's talk about the debt limit. the speaker also said that the president of the united states does not want a deal, he wants a default. your reaction to that. >> look, nothing could be

further from the truth. this president has made it very, very clear his entire administration has made it clear, all of us have been saying, default is the worst possible thing that could happen to this country. you see what happened the last time we came close to it. we went up to the edge. you saw what happened to the markets. you saw what happened to our credit rating. we cannot afford for that to take place this time. if it gets close and this thing could happen, what will happen if you have a default? the president does not want a default. he doesn't want us to risk the full credit of the united states, because that would be catastrophic. >> in 2011 you were one of several democrats urging president obama to invoke the 14th amendment. should that be on the table? >> i think so.

the president is responsible for making sure that the full faith and credit of the united states is not jeopardized. if congress will not act in this instance, the house of representatives, maybe he should take the actions that are necessary. as you know, i am a big proponent of executive authority. i stand here in the house because of an executive order, the emancipation proclamation was an executive order integrating the armed services is an executive order. i believe if things can get done by executive order and let them play out in the courts. i would hope the president will take executive action if the house refuses to do its job. >> congressman, last night we saw in a town hall meeting with a very pro-trump crowd that he just commandeered that stage

with a lot of the lies that he has been telling for several years now, starting with the election. do you think the white house is underestimating his power in a general election? >> i cannot say whether or not they are underestimating it. but i think we should not underestimate it. we see how skillful the ex-president is in these kinds of settings. but we also know that he is very challenged when it comes to the truth. i do believe that the truth is important. it's the way we all interact with each other. we cannot have a good, successful government if we do not act on the facts. this ex-president is devoid of facts. most of what he says, most of what he lives is just fiction.

we cannot let that be the order of the day. don't underestimate the fact that a lot of people have bought into this foolishness. and we have to stay focused, and we have to be determined to stay connected with the american people. i think the president has been doing a good job. he needs help to continue to do a good job. >> thank you very much. >> thank you very much for having me. deja vu all over again. the 2024 republican frontrunner going all in on the lies of the last election, january 6 and more. the reaction and what it means for the country coming up next. you are watching "andrea mitchell reports" on msmbc. e waa mitchell reports" on msmbc netw. so you can do more than connect your business, you can make it even smarter. now ports can know where every piece of cargo is. and where it's going. (dock worker) right on time. (vo) robots can predict breakdowns and order their own replacement parts. (foreman) nice work.

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donald trump doubled down on his past lies during last night's cnn town hall. the republican presidential front runner continuing to deny the validity of the 2020 election results. he said he's inclined to pardon many of the january 6th rioters, called january 6th a beautiful day. trump again defamed e. jean carroll just one day after he was found liable of sexual abuse and defamation. he called putin a smart guy. he insisted he had every right to take classified documents back to mar-a-lago, and about defaulting on the national debt, trump said you might as well do it now if biden won't agree to massive cuts.

joining us now, brendan buck, a former top aide to speakers ryan and boehner, former obama white house deputy chief of staff, msnbc news correspondent yamiche alcindor, and former u.s. attorney barbara mcquade. trump was asked about the classified documents found at mar-a-lago and his reaction raising a lot of eyebrows. >> what donald trump said last night is something he said before which is that the documents were automatically declassified when he took them out of the white house and to mar-a-lago. i think these are really important admissions. number one, he's admitting that he has one. that is one of the elements of the crime. this idea that he automatically declassified them is nonsense. there has to be a document that says that so that you can communicate that to the rest of the intelligence community. so it's a nonstarter, but it locks him in to that defense. he also said nothing about why he needed to lie to the justice

department that he had returned all the documents in june in response to a subpoena when he, in fact, retained 26 boxes. so i think that was a good development for jack smith because it locks him into a story, and he can certainly use a recording of that statement at trial should the need arise. >> he also did not rule out the fact that he may have shown them to someone when asked about that, which was kind of extraordinary because that would raise it to a new level. yamiche, the audience last night was packed with staunch trump supporters. listen to how the crowd reacted when trump really, again, mocked e. jean carroll. >> do you wish you would have testified? >> it wouldn't have made a difference. this was a rigged deal. my lawyer said, sir, you don't have to do it. i actually said, i think i should it would be respectful. they said this is a fake story, and you don't want to give it credibility. >> one thing you did do in this -- >> and i wear, and i've never done that and i swear i have no

idea who the hell -- she's a whack job. >> mr. president, you did not -- >> and they laughed uproariously with that. what was your reaction? >> it's remarkable to see the crowd reacting that way, but in some ways it underscores that former president trump in the way he is handling this and his stance in his claims against e. jean carroll are being embraced by his most fervent supporters. there are a couple of other ways to see this based on my reporting that i did with republican women after the access hollywood tape, one in four women in this country are sexually assaulted, apart from trump supporters laughing this off as this may be a witch hunt against him, there's also an idea that a lot of people are used to women being sexually abused, i think there are a rot of layers to what that crowd was doing last night as they were

laughing and mocking e. jean carroll. what we do know is she got this verdict and donald trump was found liable, and now he owes her $5 million in damages, andrea. >> and brendan, indiana senator todd young is one senator who has spoken out against what trump said about vladimir putin and other things, but only a handful of other republican leaders seem to be willing to stand up to trump. here's two of them. >> there was no energy. there's no fire. there's no positivity. there was nothing exciting. he looked kind of weak. he looked tired. he looked like he was on the defensive and angry and bitter. i don't think anything he said shocked people, right? because we've kind of crossed that paradigm a long time ago with this guy. >> i think he's a coward, and i think he's a puppet of putin. i really do. if he you won't say that you think ukraine should win the war, i don't know where you stand with putin. >> but overall, we're told that republicans like what they saw, that he was forceful and the crowd was with him, obviously a

pro-trump crowd. >> the response that he got, i think, gives -- explains why so many republicans are afraid to criticize him because there are so many people out there who do love him, who do get a kick out of all the things that he says. night should be a wake-up call for republicans. i think what we saw last night was a very clear reminder that this is not a person who has any interest in moderating. he is what we know he is and will run again in that same way. if you couldn't look at that display last night and be concerned that this is a person who could win a general election, now i don't know how much voters think about that, you know, they tend to vote, you know, based on who gets them excited and that's where he gets them going, but people in the party have to look at this and say, look, we have a very vulnerable incumbent president in joe biden, he's very beatable. is this the right person? does this person have the ability to win over independents in those key swing states and

win back the white house where we could be blowing another chance, and tying our fortunes to this person once again. >> trump also called january 6th a beautiful day. today the government released additional videos from the senate floor from during the attack, i think we can play some of those. does that matter at all, and is the white house, you know, under estimating the power of donald trump in a general election? >> oh, absolutely not. i mean, they ran against this guy. they understood how close it was last time, andrea, but like there's a couple of things that are interesting. one is that trump's own advisers said the goal last night was to show a more on message donald trump. if that was the goal they got a big bad f on that deal. we just had a 2022 election where this was litigated very heavily and republican election deniers lost in each one of

those major battleground races, kari lake in arizona the most notable, and yet, donald trump gets right off message and steers right back into it. so it is very clear to brendan's point that we are going to see the same donald trump we saw four years ago, and democrats need to remember that election was very close and biden had the best tweet afterwards saying do you want four more years after this guy, give joe biden some money. i know at least for my mother-in-law she gave a bunch of money last night. >> and brendan, one quick question about what we're seeing on the gun issue because the democrats are right now meeting on guns. can they do anything? will republicans go for anything at all on guns after everything that's happened in the last few weeks? i don't think there's a lot of reason for optimism. after uvalde, there actually was a bipartisan breakthrough, and they were able to get something done, and the response was swift blowback, john cornyn who led that effort was condemned by his state party. i think that experience is still

fresh in people's minds, and there just frankly aren't a whole lot of republicans who think this is good policy or certainly aren't good politics, i don't think there's a whole lot of appetite for taking on that kind of thing right now. thanks to all of you. and that does it for this edition of andrea mitchell reports. "chris jansing reports" starts right now. good day, i'm chris jansing live at msnbc headquarters in new york city. midnight will mark the end of one controversy and the start of another. thousands of migrants crowded the border eager to see the end of title 42. u.s. authorities insisting it's not that easy. we're expecting to hear from the man in charge, dhs secretary alejandro mayorkas in just a few minutes. plus, reading between the