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>> it's mother's day. we cannot let that go unmentioned. we want to show you our view of the moms in our lives. these are pictures from the team at msnbc reports with yasmin vossoughian. we will post this video online and case we don't get all the pictures. moms, i would show you agree, motherhood teaches patients, selflessness, sleeplessness, but also empathy, joy, unconditional love. it's the greatest gift of a lifetime. it makes us all look at our moms like, wait, you love me that much? so, happy mother's day to all you moms, soon to be moms, and weather figures. you do so, so, so much. i'm lindsey reiser, yasmin, another super mom will be back next saturday and sunday at 2 pm eastern. symone starts right now. >> greetings, everyone. you are watching symone. it has been one year since the
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mass shooting in buffalo, new york where a teenager killed ten people at a tops grocery store just because of their color of their skin. today, residents are commemorating the horrific attack. this mother's day, we are talking to a mom whose son was shot and survived, also we have the head of the naacp here, and he's going to weigh in on white supremacy in america, gun violence, and more. plus, america at risk of defaulting on its debt. sending the u.s. economy off a cliff. the white house lawmakers can't reach an agreement soon. we are digging into why social security and medicare could be the first things on the chopping block. and britney griner back on the court in her first wnba game since being held in a russian prison for nearly 300 days, y'all. i'm symone sanders-townsend and i have something to say. ♪ ♪ ♪
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>> there are too many mothers in america who woke up this morning knowing that mother's day phone call from their child was not coming, because the epidemic of gun violence in our country robbed them of that opportunity of that joy. for a particular group of moms in buffalo, new york, today is the first time they felt that unique pain. when you are ago today, a white teenager motivated by racism and hate, opened fire at the tops grocery store in buffalo. ten innocent people, all black, were killed. ages ranged from 32 to 86, three others were injured. the shooter survived and was arrested, tried, and convicted. in february, he was sentenced to life in prison without parole and he would later admit, in court, that he shot all those people because if they were black. today, buffalo's mayor, byron brown, let a moment of remembrance for the victims. just before 2:30 pm, church bells chimed, marking the moment the shots were fired.
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for many, the pain is still extremely raw. >> this is a racist crime. what have they done to fix racism? anybody? what is wrong with this country? why do we always have violence in this country like this? we act like this is the first day. we say the same things all the time, every time. >> i wish i could tell you the things have gotten better, but i'm going to be honest, they haven't. since the shooting at tops, there have been 667 mass shootings in america, according to the gun violence archive. the gun violence archive keeps track of shootings of all kind throughout the united states and defined a mass shooting as a shooting where at least four people are hurt, not including the shooter. i've said before that every mass shooting is a tragedy but also a choice. a choice to live like this. president biden has repeatedly asked congress to act on gun violence, and he did so again today in an op-ed in usa today where he writes, quote, the
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majority of americans, even the majority of gun owners, want congress to take some common sense action to reduce gun violence. too many congressional republicans are doing the bidding of gun manufacturers instead of their constituents. gun violence is the number one killer of children in america. until congress acts and real action is taken, every mother in our country will live in constant fear that this year's mother's day phone call might be the last one she ever gets. i want to bring in a woman who knows that fear, unfortunately, all too well. the mother of zaire goodman, a survivor of the tops shooting. thank you so much for being here today. you tweeted a mother's day message earlier about your son, zaire. you said, quote, today i am proud to be your mom kid but more importantly i today will celebrate your second chance at life. oh my goodness, it was gut-wrenching when i read that. how is your son doing now and what has life been like in the
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years since this horrific tragedy? >> thank you, simone, for having me. zaire is doing well. the last couple of days has been rough, obviously, coming up to the one year. but he is doing well physically, obviously, mentally he is still in therapy and that will continue, you know. we don't know how long that will continue but it will continue because making sure that he is okay mentally's of top priority for me as a mom. i just want to fix this. i want to make it go away, truthfully. but we are holding together, you know. we are strong. our family is strong. they've been beside us throughout all of this, our friends, our community, the buffalo community. oh my goodness, of 11 support that continues to pour out has just been amazing to me. but we are doing well, we are
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doing well. >> zeneta, if i can, can i ask you to take us back to that day in the moment you got the phone call that your son was one of the victims of this shooting. >> that was a tough moment. that was a tough mome i was out doing some errands, zaire had just went to work probably a couple hours before, we both left the house at the same time. he called me and i answer the phone like i always do and he calls and said, hey, kid, what's up? and he was screaming. if you've ever met my son, he doesn't scream or get loud. he is a big, soft teddy bear. i knew, my heart sank. i knew before he could even say anything, i knew something was wrong. i just thought i was --
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iran. he said, mom, i got shot. i just felt i was -- i ran out the store and started driving towards the grocery store. obviously, i knew where he was. yeah. >> there are some victims family members from the tops shooting now part of a lawsuit against several of the tech companies, including facebook, the parent company of meta, google, even read it, and they are alleging these companies algorithms exposed to the shooter to racist propaganda and it motivated him to commit these murders. how big of a wall do you think that this hate online, and the racist radicalization of folks has played in this particular tragedy? >> it plays a huge role, right? this is where they learn these ideologies.
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this is where it manifests. not only that, this is where they are learning it, this is where it manifests, but this is how the message is getting out to other people, right? i remember 5:14 that day, people were tagging me and zaire's dad in the video of zaire being shot, on social media. what? i don't want to see -- right, like. >> i completely understand. >> i don't want to see that. they should be held accountable, they should be held accountable. and that is my kid! i don't want to see a video of him being shot down like a dog in the street. that is my baby. we have to go after these platforms because if they played a role in all of this and how it's getting out to people. that's a problem. that is a problem.
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they should be held accountable, absolutely. >> zeneta, i want to thank you for your time today. i know that you are someone who has not just -- you have turned your pain and your families pain into moving progress forward, you are running for office. i thank you for being an example for folks all across this country. zeneta everhart, appreciate your time. >> thank you, symone, appreciate you. >> absolutely. joining me now is the president and ceo of naacp, derek johnson. that was a gut wrenching conversation i just had with zeneta. zeneta is a member of a club that no mother in america wants to be a member of. you meet with families like this all the time. after the tragedy in buffalo, you met with attorney general merrick garland and talked specifically about the spread of white supremacy online, hate crimes in black communities,
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the naacp continues to meet with government officials at every level. do you feel a sense of progress on this issue right now? >> feels like we've been suspended in air. the executive office have done everything they can with their authority. social media platforms truly have the responsibility not to spread hate. if you look at what took place in buffalo or wisconsin or el paso, it goes on and on, much of this can be found on social media where racial hate groups really promote racial hate, identify individuals, radicalized them, and carry out these acts. we feel like we are suspended in time. we've had more mass shootings since the beginning of this year than we've ever seen. this is unfortunate and something must get done. >> more mass shootings than days of the year thus far. so, derek, obviously, that is what is happening online. we often talk about how the
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rhetoric online is imperative in communities across the country. there's also a role, i think, elected officials play here. i wanna play recent comments from republican senator tommy tuberville, tuberville of alabama. my colleague, julie tsirkin, asked the senator for clarification after he criticized efforts to weed out white nationalists from the military, saying they were simply americans to him. here's the conversation. >> sir, there are folks with white nationalist beliefs, of which there are in this country unfortunately, do you believe they should be serving in the military? >> we've got to define that first. what is a white nationalist? >> someone who propagates nazism, someone who doesn't believe black and brown people are equals. >> you think white nationalist is a nazi? >> well, that is one of their beliefs. >> well, i don't look at it like that. >> how do you look at it? >> i look at a white nationalist as a trump republican. that's what we are told all the time, a maga person. >> do you agree with that
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assumption? >> i agree that we should not be characterizing trump supporters as white nationalists. >> derek, this is dangerous. members of congress are normalizing, defending white nationalist ideology when that has gotten people killed. it's what got the folks in buffalo killed. it's what killed people in a church in charleston, it's what killed folks in el paso. like, do i need to go on? >> it's ironic coming from him of all people. his whole career is built on the backs of black football players. no one would know his name if it wasn't for black football players. secondly, it feels like 1950 where segregationists or trying to defend their position, which was no less than treasonous, and more importantly un-american. and then thirdly, this is what we have devolved to in terms of the public discourse, where individuals are justified not
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only in racial hatred but causing individuals like the shooter in buffalo to carry out these acts. at some point, the political discourse must turn. public policy makers must do their job and protect citizens, all citizens. >> you have a statement out today. you say in that segment, quote, blood on the hands of every member of congress who refuses to deliver common sense gun reform. to deliver common sense gu we know what the makeup of congress is right. now we know the conversations. they don't seem likely to act on gun safety reform anytime soon. what can people do within their communities to effect change and protect neighbors? >> first of all, this upcoming week's cops week. i have yet to understand why law enforcement officers have not taken this up as a serious policy agenda. we need sensible gun control. we need individuals who are in law enforcement to recognize
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that the threat on the african american community because of gun violence and other communities is also a threat to them as law enforcement officers. it should be a top priority. secondly, voters need to continue to pay attention. 2024 election is going to be key. 2023 election in louisiana, arkansas, i mean louisiana, kentucky, mississippi is important. policy makers must do their jobs but voters must change the policy makers when they don't do the job. >> derek johnson, president and ceo of the naacp. we will have to leave it there. thank you for your time. >> thank you. >> the united states could be less than three weeks away from defaulting on its debts, yes. the white house doesn't appear any closer to a agreement with republican lawmakers to avoid economic disaster. or are they? i will talk to heather bush from the white house -- presidents next steps for the clock taking. first, y'all, our bestie is here. richard louis has the day's other big stories. hey, richard. >> hey, simone.
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very good sunday to you. result starting to roll in for turkey's closely watched presidential race. turkey state -- turkish state media, rather, -- erdogan has a slight lead over his leading opponent with 80% of ballots counted so far. the leader is facing the biggest challenge ever to his two decade rule. polls recently showed him trailing in the race if no candidate does hit 50% in today's vote, there will be second round of voting on may 28th. more results expected at five eastern. israel and palestinian islamic jihad have started a cease fire in a five days of deadly fighting between the two sides. that's according to a u.s. official and an israeli official. they mediated the cease fire which began an hour ago. 33 palestinians and 32 people in israel were killed in the fighting so far. there's apprehension at the u.s. mexico border as it continues to plummet in the wake of title 42's expiration. an official with the department of homeland security says the border patrol apprehended more than 4400 people yesterday.
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on spending cuts attached to any bill that increases the debt limit. a further talk between mccarthy and president biden and other leadership members were postponed on son -- three sources familiar tell nbc news their next meeting is tentatively set for tuesday. the day before president biden leaves for the g7 summit. yesterday, the president shared this update on negotiations. >> i think they are moving along. hard to tell. -- [inaudible] >> make no mistake about it. if the united states default on its debts for the first time in history, it could whack out millions of jobs and trillions in household wealth. treasury secretary janet yellen recently warned it could also interrupt social security payments and americans across the country rely on to get back. the nation edging to the brink each day, will congressional
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republicans agreed to pass a clean debt limit increase as they did three times during the trump administration? well the white house given to some of their demands? or will they gridlock in washington sent our economy spiralling into what is very clearly uncharted territory? joining me now to answer some questions is heather bucha, a member of president biden's economic council advisers. good to see you again. president biden has said he will not negotiate on the debt ceiling but he's recently made a number of comments about spending cuts that are leading people to believe the president has changed his tune. is the president now negotiating with the speaker mccarthy on the debt ceiling? >> there are ongoing conversations. he met with the speaker mccarthy and other congressional leaders last week. but the president has been clear that he is prepared to begin a separate discussion about budget and spending priorities. but not under the threat of default. here is the thing. this question about the debt ceiling is about money that
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congress has already appropriated and the government has already spent. whether or not we can borrow to pay back our bills. the president wants to keep that separate from future spending. the president put out his budget back in march. it would cut the deficit by three trillion over the next decade. he is willing to have those types of conversations, but not under the threat of default. as he says repeatedly, the united states cannot and should not and will not be a dead beat nation. congress needs to do its duty and increase the debt ceiling. >> president biden will not support legislation that is at a clean debt limit increase. >> it's been clear that these should be separate discussions and he's also started the conversation at staffer meetings and has been meeting with leaders to move this conversation forward because of the urgency of how close we are to the moment when the u.s. treasury may not be able to pay the bills that are due. >> heather, nbc news reporting
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the next meeting is set for this tuesday between the president and congressional leaders. do you expect a final decision to come from that meeting? >> we certainly need a decision to come soon, secretary yellen has said that the debt limit could be reached as early as june 1st. this is a difficult date to calibrate exactly what date it's going to happen. we never know exactly how much revenue will come in or exactly what that balance will be. but it is certainly coming up quickly. there is urgency to getting this sorted. but of course this is something that congress has done time and time again since 1960. they have increased the debt ceiling 78 times. they did three clean debt ceiling increases during the prior administration. that is what the president has been asking them to do again. >> in any event, heather, let me spitball with you. i know how it works at the white house. you've got to have a contingency plan. is the president still considering the 14th amendment
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to treat the debt ceiling as unconstitutional? is that on the table? >> the president has been very clear that congress needs to do its job to prevent default. that is the number one priority here and that is what the president has made clear time and time again. as he said, invoking the 14th amendment would not solve our problems right now. that still would lead so many of these uncertainties that could upend our economy. we really do need congress to do its job. i don't think we can stress enough just how dangerous it could be to the u.s. economy to go past the debt ceiling date. we've never done it before in u.s. history. economists have a lot of projections on just how dire it could be based on how close we got in 2011. it could lead to sharp increases in interest rates, sharp increases in borrowing costs for consumers all across the country. it would lead to a sharp slowdown in government spending.
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>> social security payments. >> social security payments. >> social security payments. a number of things on the chopping block here. heather, the time i have left for you, we have conversations here on msnbc about this particular issue. i have long since that it does look like the president is going to negotiate on the budget and not on the debt ceiling. but speaker mccarthy has not presented a budget. is it not dangerous to negotiate with speaker mccarthy with no budget on the table from him? it seems you are all doing it piecemeal. essentially, negotiating with folks who have threatened to take the u.s. economy hostage, i'm talking about republicans. >> this has been a challenge. the president put out his budget back in march. he's been clear that he is put out a budget that will be fiscally responsible on top of already reducing the deficit by 1.7 trillion dollars under his watch, his budget looking forward with lower the deficit by three trillion over the next
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decade. and it would cost 200 billion in spending by strengthening medicare's power to negotiate for lower prescription drugs, amongst a number of other things. what speaker mccarthy has put forward are a series of things they want in exchange for the debt ceiling. but he's not put forward a complete budget at this point. he's not said how he will pay for all this. this is a challenging situation. >> heather boushey, member of the white house council of economic advisers, thank you so much. >> thank you. >> next, instant reaction to that conversation for my all-star political panel. plus, now that title 42 has expired and so far border crossings have gone down rather than causing a huge influx as predicted, what's next? got a lot to talk about. stick around, folks. k around, folks.
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have just 18 days the raise the debt ceiling before the united states risks a historic and catastrophic default on its debts. joining me to look at is our political panel. the president and ceo of vote latino, and msnbc contributor doug is a republican strategist and former republican national committee -- daniel diaz is a congressional reporter for politico. doug, we heard from heather boucher, you've got to hear the interview, hopefully, talking about the debt ceiling. what is your reaction to her comments? where do you think it's going to shake down? >> i think we still don't know.
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there are still more questions than answers. at this point, it's not as dire as we might have thought a week ago or two or three weeks ago. we still have more unknowns than we have known, still more questions than we have answers. ultimately, whether or not republicans will be able to present another package and what biden has to -- what can kevin mccarthy go back to his conference and say we have a deal that works and say this worked -- deal works for us. >> earlier today, chris, murphy democratic senator, from connecticut, he spoke about the possibility of invoking the 14th amendment, particularly to address the debt ceiling issue. senator murphy talked about why this was not something that should happen. we heard from heather boushey, now we know, i want to play this for you all. >> i don't want to give joe biden advice, but i think we should do our job. i think that's a precedent to just absolve congress from being adults. >> seems like president biden
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actually agrees with chris murphy, because we've got heather boushey saying that congress needs to do its job. >> i think the american people wanted to do its job. they want them to do their job. it's really interesting, when i watched the trump town hall, a lot of the stuff they said was devastating. this idea that he was goading the republicans saying, let us default. we know the only person that benefits during the election season is if the country is in complete economic chaos. he would benefit from that. listening very closely to what wall street leaders are saying, trump does not know what he's talking about, he recognizes that not only by defaulting on the debt ceiling, millions of americans will get impacted, they will -- we might have a whole workforce layup for the federal government. how do we actually handle ourselves on the global stage? what most americans don't realize is that there are so many financial systems internationally that depend on americans doing good on their
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debt. the moment we don't do that, the moment we use trust internationally, we are talking about crippling ourselves as leaders when it comes to making sure other people take a seriously. >> and global implications for that default. june 1st is the deadline, daniela. do you think congressional republicans are going to get on board with a clean debt ceiling? negotiating this budget separately. i hear the white house saying this. i don't hear that's what congressional republicans are saying, but you know better than i. >> the short answer is, no, symone, it's not going to happen. -- there needs to be negotiation with democratic leaders on this, it's between him and president joe biden. minority leader mcconnell has said he's letting the negotiations take place between the two of them. it came jeffries and senate majority leader chuck schumer seem -- it's interesting because you actually said, and i'm forgetting the number, i think it was 18 days until are you
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default. it's really actually for, if you consider the fact that there is only four days this week that the house and senate are both in session. and they really having a ticking time bomb on their hands. right now, there is absolutely no plan. they said the staff continued negotiating behind closed doors. that's why the meeting was canceled on friday. that was tentatively set to happen. looks like it will happen tuesday between the four corners. they are running out of time. >> the president has a plan to catch on wednesday to the g7. i want to turn to talk about the expiration of title 42. because, for a second straight day, apprehensions of the southwest border have dropped to just over 4400 on saturday. this is despite concerns that the title 42 would lead to a massive increase in people crossing the border. it's only been two days, doug. as my mom would say, don't catch your -- don't count your eggs before they hatch because they are not chickens yet, but do you think
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congressional republicans or other republicans will overhyped this? what does this mean for the strategy of fearmongering? that is what they are -- >> i don't think anybody overhyped it. i think it was the administration that said this is going to be chaotic. i think everybody agreed it would be chaotic. turns out it has not been as chaotic as we thought. we still have to see what happens in the next two or three days. clearly, republicans will continue to be critical of biden scrimmage -- the border as an example of that. we also know that, as we have these negotiations on the debt ceiling, this is one of these issues that place, the people see, the visuals are very impactful. it hasn't been as chaotic. we look at the numbers, that tells one story, but we see videos that tell a different story. that's where americans are still concerned about this. >> i spoke to mcallen of texas yesterday and he talked about -- >> your hometown. >> he talked about the resources he's gotten from the federal government, how this is different from the last time
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this happened. they've consistently got money that's been helpful. but he is concerned about the resources drying up. the person who is in charge of building up those resources secretary alejandro mayorkas. he defended the biden administration today on their title 42 change, but specifically this new asylum rule that disqualifies people seeking asylum if they don't seek it in another country first. i want to play the secretary's response to criticism that the policy is too close to the trump administration. we will discuss on the other side. >> we have done so much to rebuild the system that the trump administration dismantled. rebuilding our asylum system, we rescinded a public charge rule that sought to punish migrants in the trump administration for accessing benefits to which they were entitled under law. we have a unified more than 700 families that the trump administration so cruelly separated as a means of deterring people from coming to
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the border. >> what do you think about his response? the reality is, and this does drastically change our asylum system. you can't seek asylum unless you go through somewhere else. i can imagine people in guatemala going to a center seeking asylum if they are fleeing a place in guatemala. >> one of the things we have to give kudos is the reason we haven't seen a surge on the border is that they were prepared, more than they expected. what trump did during his presidency is he dismantle the ability to go into your own -- into a check in place and say, i want asylum, or i have someone in the united states that can sponsor me. that basically allowed for huge chaos, migrant children specifically to come to the border. we have not seen that in part because they fixed it again. i do think one of the challenges the administration is going to face his potential liability in people suing. they are changing international
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law. that is a lot of the united states crafted with the u.n. back in the day. that is what the challenges are going to. b i think we will have to have a moment in this country to figure out, what are the root causes? why are people fleeing latin america and central america? it's because when you look at those democracies, many of them are an absolute chaos. e we have to re-frame this as a national security issues. you know who is paying attention to latin america? russia and china. there is massive investment happening there. the only people that benefit in this realignment of world order is we're not, there are other autocratic and communist countries that don't benefit the world as we would like to live in it. >> a national security issue, a foreign policy issue. i want to talk about mifepristone. their case -- daniela, you've gotta break this down for us. litigating the abortion medication, mifepristone, the case is ongoing, the fifth circuit of appeals will actually hear oral arguments on
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the case on, i believe, it is thursday. what are you hearing on -- part of me, wednesday. what are you hearing about any steps congress is going to take? what are you hearing from elected officials? obviously, this is in the courts. there is a legislative piece to this depending on what happens. >> symone, i've spoken to dozens and dozens of house republicans and senate republicans who are very, very not interested in getting into this issue of abortion, especially a year and a half from an election. it is hot button issue and they know their base is split on this issue. they have the majority in the house, but there is not a lot of interest in trying to pass any legislation to continue prohibiting abortion from taking place at the federal level or in the democratic side, they don't have the numbers to rollback what happened with roe v. wade. that ruling that was pulled back in the supreme court. the dobbs decision. it's interesting.
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there is one lone house republican that is for abortion rights, women's reproductive rights, nancy mace. but she is alone. most male republicans know that this is not an issue that's going to help them at the ballot box. that's a huge issue. >> we are seeing a remarkable assertion -- 15 years ago, this would be a different conversation. we will have to leave it there, y'all. doug himes, daniel diaz, thank you all very much. the regroup is next, your. the tea is piping hot. we will get into jar morant, okay? the memphis grizzlies star player flashing a gun on instagram again. the memphis grizzlies have something to say. there is so much to unpack. stick around. (screaming) defeat allergy headaches fast with new flonase headache and allergy relief! two pills relieve allergy headache pain? and the congestion that causes it! flonase headache and allergy relief. psst! psst! all good! how to grow delicious herbs: step one: use miracle-gro potting mix.
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regroup. this is part of the show where we dig into the t circulating the group chat. we're kicking things off with memphis grizzlies star guard, ja morant. he's been suspended for flashing a gun on instagram live. again, it wasn't even as live y'all. the team released a statement saying, quote, we are aware of the social media video involving ja morant. he suspended from all-time activities pending the review. we have no further comment at this time. here to unpack this drama and more, we have a media personality onset. and lindsey granger, welcome to
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you both. okay, y'all. this is the second time morant has done this exact thing in less than three months. first time, he was suspended for eight games and cost nearly $670,000 of his salary. what in the world? >> girl, first of all, how do you get suspended on your day off? let's just start there. >> the grizzlies are not in the playoffs. >> but this is what the sad thing about this all is. i have an 11-year-old son, and forcing said to me is, mom, john had a gun again? and i don't think jon understands his core audience. his core audience are young children that look up to him. that want to be like him. so when he pulls the stunts, he has to remember that when he does something like that, these kids are looking and thinking, okay, josh can do. it maybe it's okay if i can. so i want him, moving forward, to understand that his actions have a reactions and have consequences. and i really feel bad for the memphis grizzlies. they keep trying to help this guy out, it's like, bro. tell us you don't want us to be in the nba, without telling us
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you don't want to be in the nba. >> they were earning overtime this weekend. what are your thoughts here? >> they were really looking at twitter like, no, that can't be a real video. but it's really unfortunate. ja morant is so young, he was already on a trajectory to transcend basketball. in a way that lebron did, when you think about the brand deal he's already had. anything but how much money he's making, and how skilled he was in the crop of people that came behind him. it really speaks to people that he surrounding himself with, for me. the video obviously was someone else holding the phone, and panning to him. you see him with the gun, and he shouldn't have a gun. that's the bottom line. he shouldn't have a gun in the video, but he wants to shoot for sport, there are gun ranges. head over there with his friends. but it's really unfortunate. when you think of what's happening to his career, it's one of those people that you see them on the way up, and then you come down and -- it's the actions of your family and friends. and everyone your surrounding yourself with, not protecting you. and to be so young, like you
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said, heavy as the head wears the crown. it's unfortunate to have this much responsibility a young age, early twenties. it's important to know who is looking up to you. the young kid thinks it's cool not brand sean, it really you have everything in the world and only that gun in your hands. >> there is a responsibility, and let's just say, it job morant is a young black man in america. full stop. there are a number of things you just cannot do. so much love to the young brother, and they are preparing their picks a sling. i -- let's talk with something more positive. britney griner is back on the court, y'all. the 32-year-old wnba star played in her first preseason game for the phoenix mercury since being released for a russian prison. the two-time olympic champion spend ten months there for possessing cannabis oil. the nine states governments that she was wrongfully detained. i agree. they reported that britney griner sat on the bench and said, i didn't think i would be
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sitting here. i didn't think i would be playing basketball this quickly. i'm not going to take today for granted. i think britney griner's resilience is amazing. her story is inspiring. what does britney griner's return to the court show the world? >> it shows the world, like you said, how resilient she is. and as a former athlete, as well, when you have that missing piece, which i feel like her team did. because brittani was such a huge part of that organization. when she came back, i feel like those sparks came back. everybody was so excited to see her. she got there almost two hours early, it was giving him 40 love. high-fiving, hugging people. you can tell that in that moment, she may have taken the situation for granted initially. but now, it's, like you know what? i saw what it was like on the other side. but this opportunity may not have presented itself again, so here i am. i'm going to come out, do the best that i can, and show the world i'm still a winner. i'm excited for brittani, and everything that organizations going to continue to do with her.
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>> lindsey, i've got 30 seconds. how would you describe britney griner's return to court? >> i think resiliency, what you said, that sums it up best. when you see this woman who is contemplating life and death situations just three months ago and russia, return to her teammates and be surrounded by love. and really, be vulnerable enough to share her story again open back up to a world where she was playing a sport that she loves. both in russia, and the u.s.. and she was treated that way in russia. just imagine her mindset, what she was experiencing. to have that low low and that high high. i'm happy she's able to stay happy. >> it makes a difference. much loved britney griner and her family. thank you both very very much. when we come back, folks, i've got a little message to the moms of team simone. so stick around. but my old internet, was not letting me run the show. so, we switched to verizon business internet. they have business grade internet, nationwide. (vo) make the switch. it's your business.
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brittani, our d.c. single producer is a mom of four. she is standing on the stage with her mother michelle, who overcame teen pregnancy to become a chef. and shout out to her grandmother, gloria. suzanne foster is the mother of david, our new york senior producer. she's a registered nurse, and david says his mom is the most selfless and loving person that he knows. our second producer, evan's mom, is laurie bracknell. she's an artist and graphic design who is killing it in her emptiness era. elijah would like to shout out her mom, who is a scene towns acquisition partner. and her aunt were pivotal in her upbringing. jack, our graphics p.a. says that his mom june is the most incredible woman he knows. throughout his childhood, judy spent a long, hard days running her own business, but still managed to fill their home with laughter and joy. our video producer, wills mom barbara dedicated 28 years to
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