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i'm ana cabrera reporting from new york. we begin with new intensity in the 2024 race. florida's governor starting to peel off the gloves against donald trump. this weekend was supposed to feature a split screen battle in iowa with both men set to hold dueling events. only one, the one not officially in the race ended up appearing. >> we must reject the culture of losing that has affected our party in reason years. the time for excuses is over. >> the gop contenders battle it out. we have the current president set to meet tomorrow with congressional leaders at the white house with the president preparing to travel overseas this week, is there enough time to avoid a catastrophic default. later, extreme weather, massive destruction across the midwest after tornadoes touched down. at least one person is dead in texas amid widespread devastation. we're live on the ground as the community works to pick up the
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pieces. first, the 2024 race and the rivalry between trump and desantis heating up. here to break it down, vaughn hillyard, max rose of new york and former republican congressman charlie dent of pennsylvania. vaughn, let me start with you. this seemed like a different ron desantis this week and one willing to be more aggressive going after trump. is this a sign for things to come? >> he went to sioux city, cedar rapids and des moines. he didn't name donald trump by name. for ron desantis what i continually heard over the course of this weekend from iowa republicans was, is he going to put in the work effort to try to unseat donald trump in iowa? he rolled out one-third of iowa republicans in the state legislature, have endorsed ron desantis, and he really -- he made campaign stops, retail stops very much like ted cruz did back in 2016 when he beat donald trump in the iowa caucus.
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if he has any shot to unseat donald trump in iowa, he has to do exactly what he did this weekend. >> congressman dent, can desantis run against trump without taking him on head on? >> absolutely not, ana. in my view, running a campaign, you have to draw a very sharp contrast. running around and saying you're trump-like, that is, you agree with trump's policies but don't have all the baggage, he's going to find out that's not going to be a way to bring in all the non and never-trump voters. remember when donald trump was indicted over the stormy daniels matter, desantis all but defended him, called it a witch hunt. that's not the way you respond. you say this is another reason the guy is unfit, he's too big of a risk. he's not doing that, not drawing a sharp enough contrast. all these other candidates must do the same thing as well. >> i bet, congressman rose, your
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party would love to see a prolonged primary battle between desantis and trump. who do you think joe biden wants to run against? >> i think joe biden really wants to run against a maga right extremist republican. when you look at this field, that characterizes each and every one of them. but donald trump is skyrocketing in the polls right now. the republican base, they're like that partner that wants to constantly go back to their toxic ex. it is horrible what's going on from the vantage point of being a patriotic american. low expectations are unbelievable in politics. ron desantis is at this stage right now where, if he looks like a human being when he interacts with a voter, the media is saying, oh, my god, look at this, he's soaring. the guy is plummeting in the polls and is clearly showing he's not ready for primetime. so the biden campaign is getting ready for a race against trump. it's looking more and more likely.
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my biggest fear about them is they cannot be too arrogant. they cannot underestimate the power of the maga base, and they've got to constantly make it clear to persuadables and independents how extraordinarily extreme that wing of the republican party is. >> it does seem like the republican candidates are trying to figure out how best to define themselves and who their base is at this point. congressman dent, had the editor-in-chief -- >> is there any circumstance you can imagine supporting trump? >> i can't speak for all evangelicals. jesus said let your yes be yes and your no be no. i'll let my never be never. >> does donald trump have a chance of retaking the white house if he's lost the evangelical base. >> i'm not so sure the evangelicals will turn on him.
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there's a lot of discomfort against leader like reverend moore who are alarmed how so many people have inflated god and trump to the extent that is really unhealthy, both for the church as well for the body politic. the evangelicals kind of put themselves in this predicament over the years by tieing themselves so closely to the republican party on some of these social and moral issues like abortion and gay rights. i think this is an enormous problem. trump is going to have a very difficult time winning a primary without evangelicals. it seems to me a long segment of the evangelical base is still supportive of him. >> congressman rose, you're a former military. let me about michael flynn. trump was apparently part of the awakened tour. he said if he gets re-elected,
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he would bring flynn back to the white house with him. remind everybody here, flynn is very much a conspiracy theorist, he was encouraging trump to invoke martial law to try to overturn the 2020 election. your thoughts about this. >> it's so bad, because for so many of my generation of veterans who grew up in global war on terrorism, the era of counterinsurgency. at one point general flynn was a pillar of that effort, someone we looked to as one of the great generals of this generation. then he has over the past decade taken this horrific turn towards extremism, fascism, authoritarianism and ultimately what is anti patriotism, anti-constitutionalism. the fact that donald trump is using him as a symbol for all that shows us something marge larger about the trump campaign. we've seen it in his town halls. we've seen it in his speeches. he's unforgiving.
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he will not step back and he will never at any point step away from his base who are fascists and anti-american. that has got to be the central focus of any campaign against him. this is not a patriotic effort on their part. >> not all trump voters are fascists and anti-american. >> of course not. >> i don't want people to hear you say that and not push back, right? if you are going to assume that the people who support donald trump are anti-american, then you're also alienating people who maybe don't love everything about what the democratic party is doing but maybe they're considering -- they're not sold on trump but don't know if they want to vote for him. >> of course not. there are so many supporters of donald trump and people who have chosen with some degree of hesitancy and often regret to vote for donald trump who are absolutely great americans, but i'm talking about the trump
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agenda and the trump campaign which i believe down to its core is not patriotic, is against the very fundamental values of this country and is ultimately cowardly. i think any campaign against that -- his effort and his movement has to be one focused on those values. we can't talk about how much he is offensive, how ashamed we are to hear him. it has to be about the fact that this is an anti american campaign that goes against our fundamental values, one of which is strength, and it is not strong to claim that you've never lost a campaig that you very clearly did. it's not strong to stand up and admit your failures of the past. he's not a strong person. we've got to point that out. >> vaughn, i want to ask you about something we heard from governor chris sununu with our
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jen psaki. >> he got behind bad candidates that were extreme that can't win in november. if you can't win in november -- >> you think the best argument is he's a loser? >> yes, because he can't win. >> vaughn, from your own experience covering trump, talking to voters, is he somebody who is losing steam with the republican party, or is sununu the outlier? >> to the congressman's poin donald trump has 80% approval for iowa republicans. chris sununu is not in the race, he's seen the polls. even in his home state of new hampshire he's polling below donald trump. there's a reality for the likes of chris sununu. larry hogan didn't get into the race. he knew what he would be up against. this is where, when you're looking at the republican party party support, you hear sununu saying we've got to hit donald trump on the aspects of bringing michael flynn back. michael flynn admitted guilt to lying to the fbi, to lying to
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vice president mike pence. yet it's sort of the tit for tat. if you get into a policy conversation with donald trump, time and again i hear republican voters justifying voting for donald trump despite him being found liable for sexual abuse or the myriad of other things. they justify him because of the policies. to chris sununu's point, getting into a policy debate with donald trump is a no-go because voters appreciate the policies. >> sununu is running the campaign that ron desantis should be running. the republican base wants a fighter. they want someone who will go to war against the establishment and they want someone who will go to war with anyone in their way to include donald trump. if you're unwilling to signal to that base that you are an unrelenting fighter, then you have no chance of winning them over. i think sununu understands that. >> got to leave it there, former congressman max rose, former congressman charlie dent and
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vaughn hillyard. appreciate you all. now to the white house where congressional leaders are set to meet with president biden tomorrow with the historic debt default still looming and time running short to reach a deal with the president expected to head overseas this week. while biden has struck an optimistic tone, moments ago house speaker kevin mccarthy said things weren't looking good. >> i still think we're far apart. it seems they want to look like they're in a meeting, but they're not talking anything serious. seems more like they want a default than a deal. >> let's bring in nbc news white house correspondent monica alba. read the tea leaves for us. where are negotiations as of right now? >> it does depend on who you ask, ana. all weekend long, the white house, the president included, said those talks at the staff level where the top aides are huddling to hash out any common ground, that those were still going pretty well, that they were productive. other words used like constructive, meaning there was a little bit of progress each
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day. as we know, the principals, the president and those top congressional leaders, were supposed to get together on friday in the oval office again to renew those conversations. but instead, that did get pushed to tomorrow when we're expecting that meeting though, the details aren't confirmed yet which does signal to you how these negotiations are really going hour-by-hour. as you saw there, speaker mccarthy still believes both sides are completely far apart. we did hear a little more from the president over the weekend when he was at his beach house in rehoboth talking essentially about what he says is always his mantra that guides him, he's a forever optimist who thinks this can still get resolved. take a listen. >> i remain optimistic because i'm an optimist. i really think there's a desire on our part as well as ours to reach and agreement, and i think we'll be able to do it. >> so talks will continue today again between the different staffs. they'll huddle and set out some of the parameters for tomorrow.
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we do know there are a couple areas here where there could be compromise. when it comes to permitting reform, some spending cuts according to sources that i've spoken to. and then also again this desire by both parties, of course, not to let the u.s. default for the first time in american history, ana. >> monica alba, we know you'll keep us updated. thank you very much. when we're back in just 60 seconds, tornadoes across six states, at least 55 twisters since friday. we're on the ground in texas. also, we're learning of a whisper campaign to encourage border crossings before the end of title 42. we're at the border with that reporting. plus, they're mimicking our voices, detecting cancer, even creating art. are we letting down our guard with artificial intelligence? a close call for one 13-year-old girl who fought off a shark. ana cabrera reports is back in one minute. rts is back in one minute
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welcome back. this morning, recovery efforts are just getting started after a series of tornadoes ripped across the great plains. at least 55 twisters touched down across six states since friday including nebraska where this incredible video captured that funnel cloud along highway 281. in southern texas, at least one person was killed and nearly a dozen injured after a powerful tornado tore through a small community along the gulf coast damaging homes and knocking down power lines. nbc correspondent catie beck is in laguna heights, texas. the devastation looks pretty dramatic there. how are the people you're coping with coping? >> good morning, ana, it is dramatic. we had another round of severe storms this morning, seeing thunder, lightning and rain all over again. luckily the skies are cleared. that weather has subsided a little bit, but the devastation remains for the folks in laguna
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heights. this is a small community, just 1500 people that live here. a lot of these people have lived here for generations. it's tight knit and hard working. they are feeling the hit hard today as they try to pick up the pieces of what's left behind this morning parts of texas trying to recover from a weekend weather disaster. danielle martinez lost her 42-year-old cousin robert florez. he was killed by the ef-1 tornado that swept into laguna heights, texas, saturday morning, leaving ten others injured and causing widespread damage. >> he just had a baby and got married as well. >> reporter: tornadoes reported across six states. the tragedy stunning this close knit community along the gulf coast destroying or flattening homes where many families have lived for generations. >> a miracle.
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>> reporter: this woman packed up her 81-year-old mother before the weather friday night, narrowly escaping her home which was seriously damaged. >> we're grateful we did because the house and the framework looks pretty good on the outside, but inside, i don't know if she would have been able to handle it at her age. >> reporter: these vehicles in san antonio submerged by flash floods. >> i was going down the road and the water just started coming up on me. >> reporter: dozens needed to be rescued from their cars. this driver rescued just in time by firefighters. back in laguna heights, the hard work to rebuild now just beginning. >> keep getting together, build yourself up, don't worry about the past, just get together. worry about what you have right now. >> reporter: the national weather service says there's been 38 families that have been displaced by the tornado. the salvation army and the red cross are helping them to find lodging at local hotels in the meantime. this morning, just as soon as
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those skies cleared, we started to see those recovery trucks coming back. work will be under way again to try to rebuild what they can. ana. >> catie beck, thank you so much for that reporting. our hearts are with that community. sunday marked one year since the tragic mass shooting in buffalo, new york, that left ten people dead at a grocery store. the city held several remembrance ceremonies to honor the victims, including this one. [ bell tolling ]. >> a moment of silence followed by the chiming of a bell at the exact moment of the attack. at a service later that evening, the new york attorney general had these words. >> this community will not be defined by death and tragedy. this community will overcome death and tragedy through triumph. >> the shooter has pleaded guilty to murder and domestic terrorism charges and was
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now to the situation at the south earn border following the end of title 42. officials had been preparing for an increase in border crossings. instead, there's reportedly been a decline over the last few days. a d hnchts official tells nbc news about 4,100 migrants were encountered on sunday crossing the border. less than half of the single day total seen arriving last tuesday, wednesday and thursday prior to the lifting of title 42. joining us now is nbc correspondent george sl liss from el paso, texas and maria teresa kumar president of voter latino. george, help us understand why there are fewer border crossings
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when the expectation was the opposite. what are you hearing on the ground? >> reporter: as you heard from homeland security secretary over the weekend, the messaging about coming here illegally is what likely contributed to the 50% drop. to some of the migrants i've been speaking with, they say a lot of it had to do with the rumor mill and whisper mills occurring across the border, many of them telling them the time to cross was before title 42 expired. that led to the giant influx at the port of entries where the numbers surged 10,000, 11,000 that we saw on tuesday and wednesday. as far as the people that we're seeing here, people i've spoken with, they tell me they're scared. they don't know what's coming next. they got here and now they're trying to figure out when they'll be able to go before a judge to hear their cases to seek asylum. another group telling me they are afraid of the new rules in place now, many wondering if they do get deported and try to
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come back, if they'll be banned from seeking asylum for five years. a lot of them saying they're using the ccp 1 app, but it's working seldom. they can't seem to get the app to work. there's technical issues. if they are lucky enough to get an appointment, sometimes it's in an area well far from where they are. some of these appointments are booked out years in advance, some taking it's taking four, six-year appointments. a lot of confusion, mixed messaging and rumors fueling speculation pour the migrants. many of them, a lot of the men you see behind me have been sleeping on the sidewalks. many saying they can't find shelters in these communities. i want you to take a listen to a dialogue i had with one of the migrants in one of the shelters staying here. >> she says the journey was particularly hard for her 7-year-old daughter who ended up with an infection.
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they didn't have the means to pay for it while they were in the hospital. she said the infection was rough on her. it after ekt iffed her lips, a small abrasion there as well. it's been a really hard journey for the family. this really speaks to the humanitarian crisis that is unfolding not just here in these border towns but across the country as you know. many of the migrants who are here are being moved to suburbs in northern cities. many of them fearful, making the harrowing journey with their young families. another mother i spoke with had her child at the border, at the port of entry, that child now 17 days old. it tells you the lengths some of these families are willing to go through to get here. many feel they're stuck between policy and politics. ana. >> you're right. this is not a situation where, okay, everything is fine, going back to normal, so to speak. maria teresa, let's speak to
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what president biden said in answering questions about the situation at the border just yesterday. >> how do you think things are going at the border, sir? >> much better than you all expected. >> are you confident the numbers have peaked, that they'll continue to go down? >> they have gone down. my hope is they'll continue to go down, but we have a lot more work to do. and we need some more help from the congress as well. >> so the president sounded very positive about how things are going so far following the expectation of title 42 and what was expected. do you agree with him? >> i think one of the things the administration did well was communicate with the southern region that there was going to be massive crackdowns. george mentioned five years of probation, that you can't come if you cross undocumented. i think the challenge now for the administration is to continue not just communicating these kind of issues and what people can expect, but it's also an opportunity for the president to communicate to the american people about the root causes of
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why people are fleeing and work closely with western hemisphere partners to discuss it. the idea that weather is going to change migration patterns, disruption in many democracies is going to stop overnight is not realistic. so while we might see an ebb right now of individuals not coming, we can expect further spikes if we do not address the root causes. i do think it's an opportunity right now for the administration to communicate that to the american people. we're seeing folks as mentioned in the reporting also going into different parts of the country. we're seeing people going into new york, and the mayor recently announced they're going to rent hotel rooms. why don't they become processing centers? we recognize one of the biggest challenges we have right now is high inflation. high inflation often happens when we don't have enough workers. these are individuals that are young, healthy and came to this country to work.
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so create those systems where they don't seem to be a blight on the country but, in fact, they're seeking the opportunity that america has so long promised to so many migrants before. >> do you think the situation at the border helps or hurts the chances of getting any sort of substantial immigration reform done in the currently divided congress? >> i'm glad you asked that question. we are right now on the eve of the ten-year anniversary of the gang of eight. that was legislation and a promise to identify and resolve the issue of the millions of individuals that we depend on as americans every single day. farmworkers, daca recipients, attorneys, nurses. the list goes on. those individuals are very different from the folks that are coming now. what we're discussing and what you've framed is very much a domestic policy issue. it's an opportunity for immigration to talk about it, more importantly the administration and for democrats and congress to remind the american people that the reason we were able to go through covid
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the way we did was because of the work of so many individuals classified as essential workers that sacrifice themselves and their families for our safety, our security and our economy. now is the time to have that conversation because many americans who have loved ones who are undocumented, they feel forgotten and feel their families are still in limbo when they shouldn't be. >> maria teresa kumar and george solis, thank you so much. appreciate your reporting and the conversation. let's turn now to north carolina and a new political showdown over abortion rights after a governor vetoed a bill banning nearly all abortions after 12 weeks. the state's slim republican supermajority is preparing a vote to override the veto. voting could begin as early as this week. the governor points out republicans can't afford to lose even one vote. >> just one republican in either the house or the senate keeps a
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campaign promise to protect women's reproductive health. we can stop this ban! >> joining us is nbc news correspondent yamiche alcindor. walk us through what's set to happen in the coming days. >> as you just saw the democratic governor of north carolina, roy cooper, he's barnstorming there. republicans are set to change the abortion laws in that state. that would mean restricting abortions if this new bill passes at 12 weeks instead of the current 20 weeks which is the law now. this all hinges on this former democrat, tricia cot ham who switched her position from being a democrat to a republican. she used to be an outspoken supporter of abortion rights. in recent days she voted in favor of restricting abortion rights. that has left former staffers
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angry at her. she has spoken publically that she thinks people should not have political influence when it comes to women's reproductive rights. she's changed her mind now. now republicans in north carolina possibly will have the power to muscle this bill through. we should note there are polls that show the majority of people living in north carolina, they support the current law as it stands. this is really the world after the overturning of roe v. wade. we've seen state after state, blue states have tried to open access to abortion rights. when it comes to red states and purple states like north carolina which is seen as a swing state, that state is restricting abortion rights. definitely a big move here and we're definitely going to be watching it as the governor tries to do what he can to get the vote that he would need to stop republicans, but it does not look likely at this point, ana. >> yamiche alcindor, the lines have been drawn and this battle is well under way, thank you.
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united kingdom where he's visiting with the british prime minister after a promise to provide long range missiles. he secured more military aid from france and germany in visits to both countries this weekend as ukraine is gearing up for a long-planned counteroffensive against russia. let's bring in nbc news foreign correspondent meagan fitzgerald. meagan, has he accomplished what he set out to achieve? >> ana, good to be with you. it appears as though zelenskyy's latest tour has been successful, yielding more support from ally. zelenskyy has been talking about wanting these attack drones for self months now. earlier today, the prime minister of the united kingdom rishi sunak says his country will deliver, sending the drones with a range of 120 miles. he went on to say they'll be sending hundreds of air defense missiles. you look at yesterday, the unannounced visit in paris where
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sell zen ski met with president emanuel macro. he also went on to say they'll be sending tanks. we know zelenskyy went on and made stops in italy where he met with the prime minister there, met with the pope. but it was his first time stopping in germany since the invasion began. that happened just one day after germany announced what is comparable to a $3 billion military aid package. you talk about this counteroffensive, this highly anticipated counteroffensive. zelenskyy said, look, his troops are ready, morale is high. they're ready to go. they're waiting on critical weapons from allies. it appears as though it's been delayed. we don't know how long. that's something we will be keeping a close eye on. >> we see all this video of him meeting with the lead ergs that are crucial in those relationships. thank you, meagan fitzgerald. let's turn to turkey where the presidential election is headed for a runoff.
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neither candidates received 50% of the vote needed to win the election out right. the final vote tally you see there has current president recep erdogan at 49%. the next election is set for may 28th. this race is the toughest challenge for erdogan in his 20 years in office. dealing with economic challenges and the fallout from the devastating earthquake earlier this year. next on "ana cabrera reports," grizzlies player ja morant suspended again after officials investigate another video involving a gun. what it means for his future on the court. plus, are we playing with fire when it comes to artificial intelligence? what some of the leading minds behind the technology are saying about how it could impact the future of humanity. (cecily) you're looking pleased with yourself. (seth) not to brag, but i just switched to verizon. (cecily) so you got an awesome network... (seth) and when i switched, i got to choose the phone i wanted. for free. not bragging.
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kathy, what exactly happened? >> reporter: well, there is a video that widely circulated over social media this weekend. essentially it shows morant flashing a gun briefly while he was in a vehicle with several other people. so that is the video in question. the memphis grizzlies, once they found out this was goings viral online released a statement saying morant has been suspended from all team activities but didn't go beyond that. we also reached out to his reps. no comment at this point. but the shock factor in all this, ana, is this comes just two months after a separate incident involving morant at a denver nightclub where he's also holding a gun. that also went viral, and that was quickly condemned by the nba commissioner adam silver who said this was reckless, irresponsible and potentially dangerous. morant said he took full ownership of this. he apologized and actually
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sought counseling to better handle his stress. so the repercussions, the consequences came quickly. right now it's unclear what those next steps will be. some experts are saying, well, the regular season is over but this could bleed into the next season. it's still tbd at this point. morant is a big star, a rising star in the nba. in fact, last summer he signed a five-year extension estimated to be roughly $200 million. so a lot of eyes will be on morant, also the nba as they figure out the next steps. >> okay. kathy park, thank you. now to a topic generating increasing fear among its own industry leaders. artificial intelligence. tomorrow open ai ceo sam altman will testify before the senate to address the risks and benefits of ai. open ai is the parent company of chatgpt, the chat tool that has
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gone viral in the last year. as you may recall in march, tech leaders including elon musk called for a pause saying risk poses risk to society. jake ward has a new report with "meet the press reports" on the power of ai which can be streamed on peacock. this is a fascinating world of the unknown for so much of us. jake, as we gear up for this hearing tomorrow, what are industry leaders saying about artificial intelligence? >> ana, i think one of the first things they say to us is how widely misunderstood the nature of ai is when it comes to the sheer power, not just of the technology, but between 50 and $100 million per copy of the most advanced forms of ai, things like chatgpt, and that limits the development to only the tiniest fraction of companies and they are the companies that you know the
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best. it's the companies that have been collecting data on all of us for the last 20 yearsing or so. so when we speak to activists and industry leaders, even former people who used to work in ai, they talk about the nature of the sort of the threat that holding all of that power may pose for all of us as ai makes its way into society. have a look. >> meredith whittaker was an early ai researcher at google. she left after leading walkouts over military contracts. google made several changes to its products and policies after the outcry. whittaker says it's the issues around ai that worry her most. >> let's be real, there are only a handful of companies in the world that have that combination of data and infrastructure power capable of what we're calling ai from nose to tail. >> reporter: there is nothing innately socially positive about
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a system sold as a replacement for human judgment and built for profit. >> so the idea that this is going to sort of magically become a source of social good or that this is a -- you know, kind of a natural substance that all of us have the ability to use equally and teachers will be using it and students will be using it and nonprofits will be using it is simply not true. that's a fantasy used to market these programs. >> and at this point, ana, we've had a very difficult time getting information from inside the companies making this kind of technology. we have asked to speak to sam altman many times and been turned down. the fact that he will be testifying before congress tomorrow, a congress that seems to have a better command of this kind of technology than ever before t will be something to watch. >> you'll be bringing highlights to us i'm sure. thanks, jake. up next on ana cabrera reports, one 13-year-old aspiring marine biologist in florida got the lesson of a lifetime from a shark.
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okay. this is just a wild story of survival, a 13-year-old girl fought off a shark while she was swimming at a florida beach last week, but the aspiring marine biologist says it's not going to keep her out of the water. you can see some of those injuries right there. let's bring in nbc news correspondent sam brock with more of her story. so how did this go down, sam?
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>> reporter: you know what, she was stunned obviously, ella reed, ana, says she goes to the beach pretty much every single day and had never experienced anything like this. she did all of the right things. this happened in fort pierce, florida, she was with a buddy in waste deep water, which was clear. suddenly gets bitten on her stomach, uses her arm to block a shark as she's batting her send to get to safety, and then has to fend it off a second time. as the summer beach season approaches, two frightening encounters in the water. in hawaii, a tiger shark attacking a kayak, a near miss for the fisherman who said he accidentally kicked the shark away with his foot. >> tiger shark rammed me. >> reporter: and florida state park, a casual swim turned down right scary for a local teenager. >> it bit me in the stomach first, and right as it bit me in the stomach, i shoved my arm
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like where it was biting me so it didn't get my stomach and it got my arm instead, and then i hit it with my other hand, like hit its nose or its face or something. >> reporter: ella reed, a rising eighth grader now on crutches but recovering after sustaining bites to her torso, arm, finger, evening knee after a shark struck out of nowhere. it circled back and attacked her again. >> i remember just like breathing really heavily, and when it latched onto my stomach not being able to breathe at all, because i was like what the heck is happening. >> reporter: running on pure adrenaline ella faced a bull shark before springing out of the water and face timing her family. >> at first i thought she was joking actually. she said i'm not joking and she took the camera and panned it on her body. i froze and freaked out. her first thing was to tell her friend to run, not ask for help. she was saving her friend. >> reporter: ella ultimately needed 19 stitches, five on her torso and 14 on her leg. the family's accustomed to seeing sharks when they're out fishing or by the nearby reef,
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but they've never seen one so close to shore. and ella says she still wants to be a marine biologist, ana, despite everything that's happened, and in terms of some context right now as far as unprovoked shark bites are concerned, they're actually down in 2022 versus the rest of the last decade. there were 57 last year versus roughly about 75 a year over the course of that time frame. florida still ranks number one in the world with 16 last year. this is more common than you might think. >> incredible story, such a brave, brave girl. sam brock, thank you for that. that's going to do it for us today. thank you for being here. we'll be back tomorrow, same time, same place. until then, reporting from new york, i'm ana cabrera, thank you. josé diaz-balart picks up our coverage right now. and good morning, it is 11:00 a.m. eastern, 8:00 a.m. pacific, i'm josé diaz-balart. new numbers out this morning appearing to show the humanitarian crisis at the southern border could be easing a bit after the end of title 42.

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