than anything else in the world. there is a rainbow at the end of the story, pun intended. they focused on love and family above everything else. and i hope that this book will help other families and other parents as well as young people and, you know, i'm launching a really big book tour right now so folks can visit chastenwrites.com. i hope i see you around the country so we can have this conversation and call more allies into this fight. >> chasten buttigieg, thank you very much. young adults version of his book "i have something to tell you" is out now. and that does it for us this morning. ana cabrera picks up the coverage right now. hello. thank you so much for joining us. it is 10:00 eastern. i'm ana cabrera reporting from new york. we are just hours away from a high stakes meeting between the president and congressional

leaders of the white house. with a historic default looming and the president scheduled to leave the country tomorrow. can they strike a deal with the clock ticking? plus, just one vote. that's what a major battle over abortion access could come down to today in north carolina. the intense efforts by democrats to convince just one republican to flip. and we have some breaking news. the man accused of attacking a virginia congressman staffers with a metal baseball bat is due in court any moment. the suspect was apparently caught on camera just minutes before the attack chasing another woman. we'll have the latest on the investigation now involving the capitol police and how the two staffers are doing this morning. >> the people inside were scared. they were hiding. someone swinging a bat around i would be scared as well. and yet another mass shooting in america. this time in new mexico where

three people are dead. what we have learned about the teenage suspect who police say was firing at random. let's begin with the breaking news after that shocking attack at a virginia congressman's office. this morning the man accused of assaulting two of congressman jerry connolly's staff members yesterday with a metal baseball bat is due in court. this as we have this new video that police believe shows the suspect chasing another woman nearby with a bat just minutes before the attack. joining us now is nbc news capitol hills correspondent ryan nobles and clint watts. ryan, let's start with what we know about the suspect and his upcoming court appearance. >> reporter: that's right, ana. the suspect is expected to appear in a district court in fairfax city here in the next couple of minutes. his arraignment scheduled for this morning. court, we're told, is delayed at the moment, but he's expected to be arraigned at some point today. he's facing a litany of charges

after a series of incidents yesterday which police believe he was involved. of course, the most prominent being that attack on the congressman's office, which sent two of the congressman's staffers to the hospital. earlier in the day, though, he's accused of using that same metal bat that he used in the attack on the congressman's office to go up to a woman in a car and ask her if she was white and then smash her windshield. he was then seen chasing that woman in this surveillance video as a result of that incident. because of what happened in that particular incident, he's been charged with a separate hate crime. now, this is a suspect who has had a number of run-ins with police over the past year or so. the incident that he was arrested for in january was ultimately dismissed because of a mental health issue and he was put into a treatment program. it does appear this is a mental health issue that specifically is what a lot of that stems from. but we should learn more today,

ana, as he appears in court and we'll see how this process plays itself out. >> clint, i want to be careful here, because we don't know the motive, but this attack happened at a congressman's district office. capitol police can't be everywhere. we know they have open field offices, they have sent agents to areas where they feel have the most threats against members like in california or florida. but do you think there should be any other security adjustments right now? >> yeah, i just think across the board, ana, when you look at the current situation, this is what we call stochastic terrorism or mediated terrorism, where the attacker is unknown, but the targets are somewhat known, meaning we can look out across the horizon, look at where there are threats against individuals, workplaces, locations, how many times over just the last month have we seen it where people with mental health issues have shown up at places, committed violence and even killed people. so i think we need a much more in depth system for handling these sorts of threats and what is somewhat confusing is we see

these one after another, i think it was atlanta, i was probably on with you here, a couple of weeks ago, talking about somebody with mental health issues and access to a gun and attacked and killed people in a hospital. we had several other mass shootings since then. separately we see this incident. there are ways we can set up tips and indicators to preemptively and proactively try to identify these threats and mitigate them before we have problems and just like you said in this report, this was somebody who is known to law enforcement, that's usually where these things focus is. it is the most frequent offenders that you need to defend against and we can come up with the system to really try and tackle these problems. >> the other aspect of this specific case, of course, is who was targeted or what was targeted here, ryan. and the capitol police chief tom manger is testifying on capitol hill today. he previously said the sheer increase in the number of threats against members of congress is, quote, one of the biggest challenges we face today. he says threats have increased

about 400% over the past six years. and now, of course, we're getting closer to a presidential election year with a very polarized society. the spotlight on some very divisive issues. ryan, what kinds of questions would you expect him to face today? >> reporter: well, there is no doubt, ana, that members of congress are specifically concerned about their personal security. the safety of their families when they're away from this building. you know, the capitol is a fortified security system here with capitol police all over the place, with all kinds of efforts to protect them while they're in washington. but once they leave washington, there is only a select few members of congress that have around the clock security. for the most part their security is really up to them in terms of how they fortify their personal offices and their personal homes. capitol police have offered additional funding to help harden those specific places, to

try and make it more difficult for the security to be breached. but it would be a monumental investment, taxpayer investment, to give around the clock security to all 535 members of congress and it is just something congress has not shown a willingness to do. it will be interesting to see if he's pressed on that today by members. what can be done to try and give them more protection at home and it is also important to keep in mind, ana, specifically what we saw with the attack on nancy pelosi's husband, when she wasn't there, even though she was the speaker of the house at the time, she had no security, her husband had no security. so family members are also very vulnerable right now and it is something that at this point capitol police do not have a specific remedy for. >> clint, i thought it was interesting to hear from a capitol police consulting psychologist who noted the impact of social media on the threat case load, saying, quote, people have a false sense of

anonymity and feel more emboldened, adding this is not a problem we can only arrest our way out of. your thoughts on that. >> that's exactly right. part of this era of mediated terrorism means that more people -- the more people are demonized or targeted or political affiliations are brought into the speech of violence, the more you see violent attacks. it is very difficult to anticipate. but you can actually just look at the numbers of violent threats you see on social media, who the targets of those violent threats are and you can quickly arrive at a place where you can understand what the targets might be. when this report came out, how many times have we seen particularly in the case of democrats where individuals have shown up to do violence or threats of violence against them, a form of terrorism. we have seen it on both sides of the aisle, but predominantly it leans toward the democratic side. when i saw this report yesterday, it was not surprising to me at all and why is that? because if you went out on social media today, you would

see violent threats levied against all sorts of elected officials, all sorts of political figures around the spectrum across every social media platform. the more and higher number of those threats, the more and higher number of incidents, just like that charge you had here when we started this segment. >> very, very disturbing. clint watts and ryan nobles, thank you, both, for joining us. turning now to the white house, where the president will host congressional leaders in just hours with our nation's economy hanging in the balance. they need to hash out a deal and fast to avoid a first-ever historic default on our nation's debt with the june 1st deadline fast approaching and with the president expected to leave the country tomorrow. at this hour, the two main parties don't appear to even agree on how the negotiations are going. let's get right to nbc news senior white house correspondent kelly o'donnell. also joining us, former democratic congressman from ohio, tim ryan. he's also a senior visiting fellow at third way, a public policy thinktank.

let's start with your reporting. where do negotiations or talks stand this morning and what can we expect from today's meeting? >> reporter: well, certainly today there is the high pressure of bringing the principles, the president, adding now the vice president, the speaker of the house, and the top congressional leaders, coming together again to see what progress, if any, has been made as the staff has been working behind the scenes since they met last week. and so this is a critical opportunity to see if at that leader level they can push this forward. it is also critical because of the timing you mentioned with the president scheduled to travel overseas to japan which is hosting the g-7 summit, which brings together the world's biggest economies, and that is a certainly world stage moment for the president where he is arguing and his administration is arguing that there is a national security piece to all of this, that the u.s. must be a reliable partner with things like paying its bills. now, today we also heard from

the treasury secretary who was describing some of what she predicts could be the real catastrophic issues, if default were to happen. here's secretary yellen. >> more than 7 million americans lose their jobs and the unemployment rate surges to over 8%. and $10 trillion in household wealth is wiped out. now, if that sounds catastrophic, that's because it is. >> reporter: and secretary yellen has given an update on her sense of the timing of when the u.s. would not be able to meet its obligations, looking at what revenue is coming in from taxes and so forth and what bills need to go out and she is sticking with the june 1st date. it is not a hard fixed moment. it is not 11:59 p.m. and boom this happens. it could happen a little later. it could happen a little earlier. but she's trying to put that deadline pressure on congress and the white house to come to

some agreement. and certainly the president is signaling optimism, the speaker has been a little bit more pessimistic in his tone about where things stand. >> kelly o'donnell, thank you for your reporting. the deadline is coming up in a couple of weeks. there are many steps once that procedure is triggered to raise the debt ceiling. where is the urgency? >> yeah, i mean, it feels like groundhog day. we have done this how many times in the last so many years. but i think, you know, they're talking. i think there is a way home here. first and foremost i think there will be no doubt who will get the blame here. it will be the pack of crazies on the republican side who are holding the line, which is why you see kevin mccarthy having to be doom and gloom because he's got to try to connect to those folks in case he can bring them across the line. there is in-fighting within the republicans between the house and the senate. i think president biden is well positioned to get this deal

done. and i think he will. he did it before, i remember him coming to our house caucus years ago when we were in a very similar position, he's skilled at this, he knows how to make these negotiations work, and i think what is on the table here, permitting reform, you know, capping some spending, like we have just come out of a couple of years of tremendous investments into the country infrastructure, chips act, inflation reduction act. we have an industrial policy now. those are all good things. but moving forward we have to be concerned about the debt and deficit. we need permitting reform in order to unleash the transmission lines that are needed for all the clean energy and investments that are made. and the natural gas lines that are needed through the transition, to export liquid natural gas to our allies, so there is the makings of a deal are here. >> you're talking about the broader budget, right, and the picture in terms of reducing costs, which is something that is so important to republicans who are kind of toeing this line that they won't raise the debt

ceiling without addressing the budget issues. here is the house speaker yesterday when asked about president biden's upcoming trip abroad. >> look, i think an american president should focus on the solutions of america. and i think it shows your values and your priorities. >> congressman, talking about the timing here. we're hearing from the treasury secretary saying the country is on the brink of a economic catastrophe if the debt ceiling isn't raised in time. do you think the president should be making these trips right now? >> i think that's a bush league comment from kevin mccarthy. the president flies on air force one. he has access to phones and communication devices that will allow him to stay in direct contact. that's why he wants to get this meeting done now. he can walk and chew gum at the same time. mccarthy has got to be ready to make a deal. they're not going to get everything they want. that's the problem with trying

to negotiate with that really extreme group in the house is that they think they can get their way or they throw a tantrum, they shut the government down or they default. biden is trying to make a deal here. he can walk and chew gum. we have issues that -- global issues that the president of the united states needs to deal with. i think he should do this meeting, go on his trip and come back and he can stay in touch over the course of the next few days. nothing wrong with that. but that's typical kevin mccarthy, though, trying to do just a bush league comment to try to, like, take the high ground when the fact of the matter is he needs to sit down and get the deal done. >> before i let you go, we saw yesterday that senseless attack at congressman connolly's office. i want to get your reaction and your message in response to the growing violence and threats in this country. >> well, it is scary. and i shared the appropriations committee that funds the legislative branch members offices. we put a significant amount of

money in there to try to protect members in their home offices as well. i think every member should have a security detail 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. governors have it. governors have bubbles they live in when they're home. i think members of congress should as well. the senate republicans nixed it. here we are again. and, you know, who is going to want to take these jobs? that's the problem. you want to serve the public, you want to do good, you want to fulfill your purpose in life and help other people, and now you say, well, i don't want to get hit upside the head with a baseball bat. our hearts go out to everyone who is experiencing these acts of violence, but to be a staffer, a member of congress today is tough and they should pony up and make sure those district offices have the security they need as well. >> former congressman tim ryan, thank you so much for joining us. appreciate your perspective. >> thank you. in 60 seconds, i'll talk to a north carolina state senator about the key vote today on abortion access in that state. and overnight, new russian

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parties and voted for this ban as a new republican member. >> i don't know what happened, she had talked about wanting more freedom of thought. well, now it is time to have that freedom of thought. what i'm hoping is that she will stand up to her new party, just like she stood up to her old one. >> joining us now from more on this is nbc news washington correspondent yamiche alcindor. this is not a foregone conclusion. all it takes is one republican, one, to vote with democrats. and recent polling shows the majority of residents in north carolina agree with the governor on this issue. they support the state's current 20-week ban. it would even expand it. so, do republicans have the votes? >> well, ana, that's a key question and it seems that republicans do have the votes. this change in north carolina law, it is through the north carolina legislature because

republicans voted on a party line and were able to get that through. so it would be -- it looks pretty certain that republicans are going to be able to override that democratic governor roy cooper's veto and be able to pass this. now, of course, as you just mentioned, key to this is the fact that trisha cotham who used to be a democrat, and who talked about her own personal experience needing a medically necessary abortion that she would be someone that would be key to republicans now being able to have this vote, but we won't know, of course, the final vote until this afternoon. so i don't count votes until they're actually cast here. but it seems like this is going to go through. >> keep us posted. let me bring in another voice of this conversation, joining us now is democratic north carolina state senator sydney batch. thank you for being here. what is your message to your republican colleagues this morning ahead of this potential override vote? >> yeah, i think that if they

want to leave north carolina in a worse place, especially women having less rights tomorrow morning after the vote in both the house and the senate, which has been announced this afternoon, then that's on them and they're going to have to deal with that and their conscience. at the end of the day, in north carolina, we're standing with women. the democratic house, senate and house caucus have stood together and made it very clear we hear the women, we see them, we stand with them, and we trust them even if our republican colleagues don't. >> now, some of your republican colleagues have argued this bill is a compromise. it is less restrictive than other bans in other states. in florida, they passed a six-week abortion ban. they also point out this bill has some exceptions for rape, incest, fetal anomalies and medical emergencies. what is your response to this compromise argument? >> so, i think that it is disingenuous at best right now. in north carolina, we have a 20-week ban, which the vast majority of north carolinians

actually support. you say compromise, i'm an attorney. compromise for me means you bring both parties together, sit down at the table and have a conversation. the only compromise about this bill is between the republican factions in both the house and the senate. some who frankly don't even want to address this issue. and others who want to eliminate abortion altogether. and so we were excluded. the vast majority of women in the general assembly are democrats. we were excluded from conversations. we were not brought to the table. and so to call it a compromise i think is laughable given the fact that none of us were actually considered to be thoughtful individuals in this process, right? we're not considered to have any input. they even used a measure procedurally to have this bill passed so that we couldn't even file amendments on the floor. we have no autonomy over this bill, which is going to affect millions of women in north carolina. >> so i understand the governor is targeting a handful of republicans, specifically for moderate republicans trying to

convince them to vote against the rest of their caucus. have you talked to any of your colleagues about how they might vote? are people persuadable at all? >> you know, i wish they were persuadable. i wish they would stand up and do the right thing and in my opinion be on the right side of history. at this point, i think there so much pressure, i don't recall a single time where republicans sustained our governor's veto and i don't see that happening today. i do hope they will actually speak to the constituents and the women this affects. but unfortunately we think given the fact they called the vote for 4:00 in the senate and the house plans to vote, they have the votes they need to override. >> really appreciate you joining us and taking the time to discuss this. state senator sydney batch, thank you for being here. >> thank you so much. up next, three dead and two officers wounded in a new mexico shooting. what we're learning about the teenage suspect. plus, after a four-year investigation, a trump era special counsel just published a 300-page report on the fbi's trump russia probe.

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this morning, we are following another mass shooting in america. this time in new mexico, three people were killed and six others injured in the city of farmington. police say the gunman, an 18-year-old male, appeared to have been firing his weapon indiscriminately while roaming a residential street. nbc news correspondent erin mclaughlin is following the latest developments here.

what more have we learned about what happened here? >> reporter: hey, ana. well, police responding to the shooting describe the scene as chaotic, saying the gunman who was armed with multiple weapons was firing randomly at homes and cars. >> shooting off about 50 shots, possibly still going on. >> reporter: gunfire erupting morn morning in farmington, new mexico, about 200 miles northwest of santa fe. >> eyes on the suspect. he's walking south, wearing all black, automatic weapon. >> reporter: police say the suspect roamed through an area of up to a quarter of a mile, firing at least three different weapons including an ar-15. >> at this point, it appears to be purely random. at least six houses and three cars were shot in the course of the event as the suspect randomly fired at whatever entered his head to shoot at. >> reporter: three people were killed and six others injured,

including two police officers now in stable condition. the 18-year-old suspect seen here before he was shot and killed by police. the governor and mayor praising law enforcement saying it took just five minutes to stop the shooter, adding that quick response likely saved countless lives. jolene was home with her baby daughter when she heard the shots. >> it went from pop, pop, pop, to pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop. i freaked out. i knew then it was gunshots and i grabbed my daughter, we barricaded in between the washer and dryer. >> reporter: the wall pierced by bullets. five democratic lawmakers from new mexico issuing a joint statement saying in part, today is a painful reminder that we must do more. we are committed to fighting for sensible gun safety measures that will keep new mexicoens safe. there have been 225 mass shootings in 2023 alone.

according to the gun violence archive, which includes any shooting with at least four victims. this morning, another community in the u.s. left reeling. >> it is heart breaking for the victims. absolutely heart breaking for the victims who are just going about their everyday life. >> reporter: now, tragically it appears the three killed were all women over the age of 70. that according to a former state representative who spoke to the albuquerque journal. he added he knew one of them very well, and leaves behind five children. authorities have not publicly released or commented on the identities of the victims and the identity and motive of the gunman is also unclear. a press conference is scheduled for later today. ana? >> erin mclaughlin, thank you. turning now overseas to the latest out of kyiv. ukraine's air force says it was targeted by 18 russian missiles overnight. the largest attack on the capital since march. ukraine and officials say they

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welcome back. the durham report is out this morning, officially ending the four-year probe into the fbi's decision to investigate the trump campaign's relationship with russia. in about 300 pages, special counsel john durham accuses the fbi of failing to uphold their important mission by relying on vague and insufficient information to open the investigation. but this report does not show that trump was targeted by a deep state conspiracy. nbc news justice and intelligence correspondent ken dilanian has the details. >> reporter: good morning. john durham's report is filled with blistering criticism of the fbi, for its decision to open that investigation of the trump campaign, but critics say durham's investigation ultimately fell flat, even though it lasted more than a year longer than the actual

russia investigation by special counsel robert mueller. durham brought just two criminal cases that ended in acquittals, and his report called for no major changes. this morning, the investigation that followed a political firestorm around the 2016 election -- >> a horrible, horrible, disgusting witch-hunt. >> reporter: -- finally wrapping up ahead of the next one. republicans saying it exposed serious wrongdoing by the fbi. >> the fbi has an awful lot of work to do. >> reporter: while democrats call it a rehash that didn't live up to its billing. >> the investigation of the investigators by durham revealed little to nothing. >> reporter: mr. trump on his truth social website saying the american public was scammed. but the report, though highly critical of the fbi, did not back up mr. trump's claims that he was framed by a corrupt deep state conspiracy. >> i think it is a political crime of the century. >> reporter: john durham did not find corruption or even actions

motivated by politics. durham was tapped by bill barr to look into where fbi officials abused their powers when they opened an investigation in 2016 code name cross fire hurricane. looking into allegations the trump campaign had colluded with the russian government. that eventually led to the appointment of special counsel robert mueller, who in the end did not find a conspiracy between trump and the kremlin. >> russia, if you're listening, i hope you're able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing. >> reporter: although mueller did find a trump campaign eager to accept help from russians. durham's report criticized what he called seriously deficient mistakes by the fbi, adding the bureau was much more cautious and skeptical about allegations against the clinton campaign. all potential fodder for trump as he mounts another campaign for president. the fbi says it long ago overhauled how it handles

national security investigations in response to that earlier inspector general's report. and the attorney general now has to personally approve probes into national political campaigns. back to you. >> ken dilanian, thank you. joining us now is michael zeldin, former federal prosecutor and former special counsel to robert mueller. michael, just your reaction to this report. what are the big takeaways? >> the big takeaway is that this report, like the inspector general report by doj, found serious problems within the fbi in the crossfire hurricane investigation. both reports are consistent in their documenting of those failures. fbi director ray has said he has implemented many of the recommendations for change and that's all good. so both reports are good in respect to that. where they differ principally is in the conclusions and the good faith of the actors involved.

the ig said that the fbi agents charged with this investigation acted in good faith, consistent with internal doj fbi policies, durham says to the contrary, he thought they were politically motivated in some respects or lacked analytical rigor in their analysis. those are op-ed sort of conclusions, but the basic facts are there were problems and they were documented and they're being fixed. that's all good. >> so, as ken mentioned, durham lost the only two criminal cases he brought to court from his investigation. so now we have the 300-page report with all the conclusions. do you see this as an attempt to try to win in the court of public opinion? >> yeah, it seems so. in response to the ig report he is said we disagree. we think that there was bad faith, there was lack of rigor, and we're going to prove it and we're going to prove it in part

by bringing two criminal cases against people associated with the clinton campaign. as you said, durham lost both of those cases. and so now adhering to the narrative this was political in its orientation, they're trying to in this report offer those same opinions as conclusions to win over public sentiment that though they failed in court, this is still the narrative they want to push. >> thank you for making sense of it for us and for really bringing us the highlights that are important for our takeaways here. good to see you, michael zeldin. >> thank you, ana. up next on "ana cabrera reports," feet to the fire. top executives who oversaw two of the largest bank failures are testifying before the senate right now. plus, are we past the point of no return when it comes to containing artificial intelligence? what the ceo of one of the most influential ai companies in the world is telling senators right

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so talk about being in the hot seat. what kind of fireworks are we hearing? >> it only just started, but we're already seeing a lot of press questions to the former executives of these two failed banks and the natural question is how could this have happened, why does the decisions you make at this bank and the mismanagements you had at this bank ultimately trigger concerns about the health of the american banking system? for what it is worth, a lot of the focus is on specifically silicon valley bank's ceo, former ceo greg becker who defended and tried to say he did what he could to stop that bank from failing. take a listen. >> in the face of these unprecedented events the leadership team and i made the best decisions we could with the facts and forecasts available to us at the time. the takeover of svb has been personally and professionally devastating and i'm truly sorry for how this impacted the employees, our clients and our shareholders. >> and the question naturally, ana, is whether or not being truly sorry is going to be

enough for what at the time was the second largest bank failure in history. we heard from the chair of the committee pressing the company and the management about why they got too big too fast, how they were fatally mismanaged and the stock trades the they made prior to the bank's failure. greg becker saying those are preplanned stock sales. also happening right now, artificial intelligence is front and center as open ai ceo sam altman testifies about his industry and what we know ai can do incredible things. everything from learning aides to driverless cars, facial recognition and virtual reality. industry leaders are also sounding the alarm about the dangers ai poses. here is altman, moments ago, talking about safety in ri. >> we believe the benefits of the tools we have deployed so

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shifting gears here. pun intended. as the price of cars keep climbing, more and more americans are keeping their cars on the road for longer. nbc news correspondent sam brock has a look at why. >> reporter: with demand for vehicles in overdrive, new data shows americans keeping their cars and smaller trucks for a record 12.5 years. while they're lasting longer, they're also more expensive. which is why south florida mechanic nick oz born is still holding on to a 2007 suv.

under normal circumstances, would you still be driving around in this. >> no way. i want to replace this car. >> reporter: the father of five swapping out an engine with 200,000 miles for one with a mere 100,000. a short-term fix that fits his family's budget. do you feel safe driving this? >> no, not at all. 200,000 miles, no. my kids are in it. i'm not sure i feel safe with 200,000 miles. but do i have a choice? no, i don't have a choice. >> reporter: it's the impact of years of pandemic-fueled shortage, supply disruptions. for new vehicles, nearly 730 payment. according to one group, that's up more than $250 a month compared to just five years ago. industry analysts say pricing, higher interest rates and greater reliability of new cars all play a role. >> someone going into the market for the first time in a while, they're going to be shocked as to how high the prices are for both new and used cars. >> reporter: a by-product of this trend, auto repair shops

are seeing way more customers. >> even with high mileage, they're keeping the car. >> we have seen an average car go from anywhere to 80 to 90,000 miles now over 100, 150,000. >> reporter: many hoping to ride out this tidal wave of demands like nick. >> i wish i could afford a new mini van. >> reporter: when the road to ownership is a little smoother. >> sam brock, nbc news, miami. that uz it for us today. thank you for joining us. i'll see you back here tomorrow. same time, same place. until then, reporting from new york, i'm anna cabrera. jose diaz-balart picks up our coverage right now. good morning. it is 11:00 a.m. eastern. 8:00 a.m. pacific. this morning answers in search of answers in new mexico after the nation's latest mass shooting. police say a gunman appeared to open fire randomly in a neighborhood, killing three people and injuring six. in virginia, man is in custody after police say he attacked two staffers with a