are seeing way more customers. >> even with high mileage, they're keeping the car. >> we have seen an average car go from anywhere to 80 to 90,000 miles now over 100, 150,000. >> reporter: many hoping to ride out this tidal wave of demands like nick. >> i wish i could afford a new mini van. >> reporter: when the road to ownership is a little smoother. >> sam brock, nbc news, miami. that uz it for us today. thank you for joining us. i'll see you back here tomorrow. same time, same place. until then, reporting from new york, i'm anna cabrera. jose diaz-balart picks up our coverage right now. good morning. it is 11:00 a.m. eastern. 8:00 a.m. pacific. this morning answers in search of answers in new mexico after the nation's latest mass shooting. police say a gunman appeared to open fire randomly in a neighborhood, killing three people and injuring six. in virginia, man is in custody after police say he attacked two staffers with a

baseball bat at the office of congressman gerry connolly. threats against members of congress continue to rise. this is just the latest. at the white house, we're just hours away from another high-stakes meeting between president bidened and top lawmakers to negotiate a detd ceiling deal. we'll play for you a brand new warning from the treasury secretary about what could happen if the country goes into default. overnight, a massive wave of russian attacks targeting ukraine's capital. the biggest in weeks and come as more european allies pledge new support. ♪♪ we begin this hour with that deadly rampage in new mexico. three people were killed, six others were injured after a gunman appeared to open fire at random on a residential street, according to local police. authorities say the suspect shot at least six houses and three cars with an ar-style weapon.

the 18-year-old gunman was confronted and killed by law enforcement. according to the gun violence archive, there have now been 225 mass shootings in the u.s. this year. joining us now is nbc's erin mclaughlin. good morning. what are we learning about how the attack unfolded? >> reporter: hey, jose. police describe the scene as chaotic. saying an 18-year-old armed with three different weapons opened fire seemingly at random homes and cars. we spoke to one woman who was at home with her baby when she heard the shots fired. some of them piercing her 1-year-old's bedroom. take a listen. >> it went from pop, pop, pop to pop, pop, pop, pop, pop and i freaked out because i knew then that it was gunshots. and i just grabbed my daughter. we just barricaded in between the washer and the dryer.

>> reporter: tragically three people were killed in the attack. two police officers were also injured. the gunman was shot and killed by police within five minutes of officers arriving on the scene. that according to authorities. authorities are also saying that that is critical. police are being praised for their quick response. the mayor and the governor saying it saved countless lives. now the identities and motive of the gunmen have yet to be released. the victims have yet to be named. a press conference is scheduled for later today. we hope to learn more then. meanwhile, democratic lawmakers in new mexico are calling for a tougher measures to stop this kind of violence. jose? >> erin mclaughlin, thank you very much. now to another violent attack, this one taking place at the virginia offices of democratic congressman gerry connolly. accused of attacking staffers with a metal baseball bat is expected to appear in court. the man demanded to speak to the congressman on monday who wasn't there and struck and injured a

senior aide and intern on her first day at work. the encounter comes as the u.s. capitol police say threats against members of congress have risen by 400% over the last six years. nbc's brian nobles joins us from capitol hill this morning. ryan, what more do we know about the investigation here? >> reporter: well, it appears, jose, that this suspect, who is at the center of this case and is accused of this attack on the congressman's office is a lengthy history with police. he's been arrested several times. he was arrested for several incidents just yesterday as well. and for congressman connolly, it came as a shock. he had this office, working as an elected official in northern virginia for nearly three decades and never expected something like this to happen. take a listen. >> it was kind of shocking because we've never had anything like that. i've been in office in one form or another in northern virginia for 29 years. i've never had an office with a violent episode of any kind. we've had protesters.

we've had angry people. but no one has ever done anything in terms of inflicting violence or harm on somebody else. so today was the first. >> reporter: and it does appear that the suspect in this case was dealing with mental health issues. he was arrested back in january after an incident with police. he was eventually had those charges dismissed and was put in a mental health treatment program, but jose, we are waiting to hear more about the charges that he is facing after these incidents yesterday in addition to the attack on the congressman's office, he is also accused of approaching a woman in a car, smashing her window with a bat after asking if she was white. he's then seen in this surveillance video chasing that woman through a neighborhood. for this particular incident, he's been charged with a hate crime. we'll learn more about how he intends to plead in this particular case when he's arraigned at some point this morning. jose? >> ryan nobles on capitol hill. thank you so very much. now to the latest on the

humanitarian crisis unfolding at the southern border. the homeland security department says the number of people illegally crossing the border has fallen, border patrol processing centers are way over capacity. migrants are being released into the u.s. this as cities and shelters continue to be overwhelmed by the new arrivals. nbc's miguel almaguer has the latest. >> reporter: this morning, the border patrol continues to release thousands of migrants into the u.s. following the end of the public health order known as title 42. massive processing centers designed to hold 18,000 migrants are being pushed to their limits, according to dhs officials. one administration official telling nbc news those released most recently have been vetted, have court dates and have passed credible fear screenings, the first step in claiming asylum. but court documents show dhs released over 2,500 migrants

without court dates just after title 42 ended friday. the numbers overwhelming shelters and cities alike. the biden administration is touting that illegal crossings have fallen nearly in half since title 42 expired. though that's compared to the record-breaking surges of last week. the administration says stricter punishments under title 8, the section of u.s. law dealing with immigration that was in place before title 42 and is now being enforced again, is slowing the flow. this teen from guatemala says she was turned back and told to apply for asylum at a port of entry. republican lindsay graham says the numbers don't tell the full story. >> they gave everybody in line a pass. >> reporter: it comes as bus loads and train loads of migrants keep arriving in cities nationwide. in new york city, some asylum

seekers are now being housed in school gymnasiums. >> they didn't tell the parents anything until the kids came home and said something later on in the day. that's when we got notified. >> reporter: this morning, a humanitarian crisis being felt far beyond the southern border. >> our thanks to miguel almaguer for that report. up next, can president biden and house speaker kevin mccarthy breakthrough the debt ceiling standoff? what's expecting from today's white house meeting. plus right now on capitol hill, former top execs at two banks that collapsed facing tough questions from lawmakers. we're back in 60 seconds. econds you're watching "jose diaz-balart reports" on msnbc. r. . (screaming) defeat allergy headaches fast with new flonase headache and allergy relief! two pills relieve allergy headache pain? and the congestion that causes it! flonase headache and allergy relief. psst! psst! all good! asking the right question flonase headache and allergy relief. can greatly impact your future. - are, are you qualified to do this?

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ceiling negotiations. this afternoon, the big four congressional leaders will meet with the president and vice president at the white house as a deadline looms. if the debt ceiling is not raised in the next 16 days, country is expected to default on its bills, something the treasury secretary warned this morning could be, quote, catastrophic. >> a default could cause widespread suffering as americans lose the income they need to get by. and the resulting income shock could lead to a recession that destroys many american jobs and businesses. so let me be clear, if congress does not address the debt limit, there are no good options the treasury or the government can use to save us from catastrophe. >> joining us now is allie raffa and on the hill, punch bowl news founder jake sherman. so, jake, president biden sounds somewhat optimistic, house speaker kevin mccarthy sounds

pessimistic, punch bowl is outlining why the drama is worse than it seems. what is going on? >> i don't know where the white house's optimism comes from, jose. it's been the staff of to the big four leaders and the white house have been up here for days, even over the weekend, trying to get some common ground on an agreement. and they've made what i would say is minimal progress on a deal that would raise the debt limit. in fact, the white house and democrats still say they're not negotiating on the debt limit. this is with 16 days left. a few interesting things to note. number one, speaker kevin mccarthy who i talked to a little while ago told me he is insisting on work requirements for social safety net programs. that is a nonstarter with democrats. so that's going to be a really tricky thing for the white house to navigate. number two, mitch mcconnell is still not swooping in to rescue these negotiations. he will be observing the meeting today with kevin mccarthy, joe biden and other congressional leaders, a sign he won't be the

savior that perhaps the white house and other democrats want him to be. so, i would just say from a 30,000 foot level, jose, we are nowhere. congress is nowhere on getting this agreement done with 16 days left. it should be very concerning to everybody involved. and i don't see the pace of these negotiations picking up in any way. negotiations are very large, which is strange for talks of this variety. and we've never been closer, jose, to reaching this debt limit deadline with no solution. >> so, jake, in politics, in washington, 16 days can be an eternity. and 16 days can be 16 seconds. i'm just wondering, is there any -- do you see anything that could cause these sides to find something in either 16 years or 16 seconds? >> yeah. the fact that the u.s. will default for the first time in its history or could approach

default for the first time in its history should be a motivating factor, jose. you would have thought that would be the motivating factor for the last several months, but it's not been. i have never seen two sides dug in as much as they are now. this should be a relatively easy deal to cut. should be. mccarthy is insisting on before this call for work requirements was insisting on budget caps, pretty standard ask in any negotiation. they are insisting on reforms, something that republicans and democrats agree on. and a few other things. but this should be easy. it's not been. both sides are pretty dug in. >> president leaves for asia tomorrow for g7 talks. here is what mccarthy said about that yesterday. >> president biden scheduled to go to japan and australia later this week. do you think he should still go in light of negotiations? >> look, i think an american president should focus on the solutions of america. and i think it shows your values and your priorities.

>> what does the white house say about the president's decision to go to this meeting? >> reporter: yeah, jose. speaker mccarthy actually comment on this again this morning saying in part, quote, all i know is we've got 16 more days. i don't think i would spend eight days somewhere out of the country during this time. so, this is really what white house officials see as a lose/lose scenario as the president. this debt debate impacts his trip to japan, australia for these key two summits, they risk what white house officials are saying is a key national security piece of this because you risk these global leaders of these global economies potentially doubting the president and the u.s.'s economic reliability. so, sources are telling us that the president is being realistic right now. he doesn't expect a full deal to come out of today's meeting, but he certainly expects at least the beginning of a framework so that he can leave tomorrow on this overseas trip confident

enough that when he comes back there's not much left to do. so that's why you're seeing vice president kamala harris play more of a role in today's meetings. she wasn't at the first meeting between the president and big four congressional leaders. and sources are saying that her role in this meeting is sort of going to be the voice of the american people to reiterate and stress how catastrophic this would be for the american people if the u.s. does default on its debts. >> and jake, so the house coming up with a statement that the republicans are united with mccarthy on this debt ceiling negotiation, whatever negotiation is or is not happening. is there a thought that politically this could benefit anyone? >> no. debt ceiling crisis, debt default crisis benefits exactly no one. in the immediate, though, the inability to get a deal has rallied house republicans behind kevin mccarthy, which i guess is important in the moment. he doesn't have any republicans who are saying that mccarthy is

doing a bad job, at least not publicly. but i don't think this -- to be honest with you, i think we tend to overrate the political sail yans of these debt limit crises. but if this looks like another to a lot of people i imagine, another manufactured crisis that will get solved at the 11th hour. that's why i think you don't see markets or broadly speaking equity markets rattled at all because they think this will get done at the end of the day. >> jake sherman, allie raffa, thank you so much for being with us this morning. just looking at the markets right now, the dow seems to be down about 230 points. s&p is down about 15. and the nasdaq is up 15.64. the very latest on wall street right now. while the big four in congress head to the white house, members of the senate banking committee this morning are focussed on that other financial drama of 2023. right now the former executives of silicon valley bank and

signature bank are testifying on capitol hill, answering questions about how the banks collapsed. cnbc senior markets correspondent dominic chu is following it for us, as he always does. dom, good morning. regulators are forced to take over these banks after customers lauchblged a run on the money. what are the former executives saying about that today? >> reporter: jose, they are basically facing a slew of different questions and pointed ones at that about what went wrong and how it could have gone so wrong in such a bad way leading to a few of the biggest bank failures in u.s. history. now, in the hot seat specifically so to speak, are former silicon valley bank ceo greg becker, former signature bank of new york executives scott shea, the former chairman and eric howell, the former president. and much of the message so far has gone towards the unprecedented so to speak nature of how these banks ultimately collapsed. it was a combination of things like federal reserve interest rate policy being tightened at

such a quick pace, all the way to the rush of many deposttors to withdraw their money in such a short period of time. aspects of social media are to blame for the runs on the banks. here is what he had to say in response to a question about just what exactly happened. take a listen. >> as we looked at liquidity overall, relative to the size of the bank we were, we certainly felt that we had ample liquidity and were able to even with the fastest bank run in history, 41 of the $42 billion deposit outflows that day, that thursday, were covered by svb. and we could have handled even more. it's the unprecedented event, the fastest bank run in history, from our standpoint that was the anomaly. >> reporter: now, republican senator tim scott from south

carolina just flat out said that becker's lack of judgment showed he should not have been running the bank to begin with. so, jose, there are certainly a lot of heated rhetoric trying to assess blame and blame what exactly led to the ultimate collapse of these three financial institutions. >> dominic chu, thank you. up next, we're live on the ground in kyiv, ukraine, where russia unleashed a barrage of missiles overnight. plus, election day in several parts of the country. we're live in florida with how one mayor's race could provide insight into 2024. you're watching "jose diaz-balart reports" on msnbc. t. about what the future looks like. for me. i may have trouble getting around, but i want to live in my home where i'm comfortable and my friends are nearby. i can do it with the help of a barber, personal shopper and exercise buddy. missiles overnight. live r at home. missiles overnight. e. life's good.

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♪♪ 23 past the hour. overnight, ukraine says it thwarted a powerful attack on its capital city. russia launched 18 missiles, all directed at kyiv, but ukraine's air force says they were all destroyed by its air defenses. it caused debris to fall resulting in fires and destroyed vehicles. meanwhile, president zelenskyy wrapped up his european diplomatic tour after securing new military aid. joining us now from kyiv is nbc's molly hunter, also with us is admiral james stavridis, nsnbc chief analyst. molly, what do we know about the latest attacks there in the capital? >> reporter: jose, good to be with you. big picture this was a triumph for ukraine's air defenses and their newly-deployed western air defenses that they have acquired

in the last several months. the ukraine air defense and air force this morning ran through the numbers. you mentioned 18 already, jose. nine cruise missiles from the black sea. nine drones and six hypersonic missiles fired from aircraft. the spokesperson held a briefing. it was different and this attack was much different because of the large number of ballistic missiles fired simultaneously. the density was incredible. and we heard it, jose, overnight around 3:00 a.m. not only did we hear the air raid, the explosions but the thuds of intersections of those explosions of the air defss hitting the incoming missiles. now the air force would not comment on whether or not the u.s. supplied patriot defense systems actually were responsible for most of the downing of these missiles. but what's interesting is these missiles, these hypersonic missiles and i'm sure your next guest can speak more about these, these are weapons, some of the most modern in moscow's arsenal they have bragged about, said could evade even the

patriot defense system. now we know on may 4th just a couple of weeks ago the ukrainians said that it was able to shoot down with the patriot defense system at least one missile. there were six last night fired all at once. jose, they travelled ten times the speed of sound. this was really a very big show of how successful kyiv and how advanced ukraine's air defenses are at this point in the war. >> molly hunter in kyiv, thank you so very much. admiral, let's talk about what molly was saying. the fact that there were these hypersonic missiles, the slow ones, all kinds of missiles. this is pretty significant. >> yeah. let's start at the strategic level, jose. and recognize that putin is losing the land war. and over the next i would say four to eight weeks, we're going to see the ukrainians on the front foot in land combat. so, what is putin going to do? he's going to try these kind of

high density air attacks and try and gain an advantage that he can then turn around to the russian people and say even though we're kind of not doing as well as we could on the ground, we're making great strides in striking them by air. tactically molly's excellent reporting shows us they can throw the kitchen sink at these air defenses, but at least so far they're able to stop them, particularly these hypersonics. patriot, i know that system well, jose. i'm frankly pleasantly surprised that it has that kind of success rate against a hypersonic. i would guess by the way that the russian hypersonics may not be as hyper as they can telling us they are. >> neither hyper nor sonic, it seems. but nine of them, you know -- >> yeah. >> coming at one time. so, admiral, what does this tell you about how the defense

system, patriot and others, i know you know that system well, but describe what that system is and why it's been so successful. >> yeah. first of all, it's battle hardened. it is used across the world by u.s. and many of our allies. we've been using some variant of the patriot system for decades. and it has two principle, very capable features. one is its radar is capable of handling multiple targets. old fashion air defense systems were kind of one target, one radar. this system can scan and capture many inbounds and you saw that. secondly, the command and control capability to link to other systems is crucial because air defense is a team sport. you're not going to solve it just with the patriot. you have to have a whole series

of other launchers out there. if you can link them together and patriot can do that, you create a field of air defense over in this case your capital city, kyiv. >> admiral james ststavridis, a pleasure. thank you for being with us. the long-awaited durham report is in. we'll break down what it had to say about the fbi's probe into the trump campaign ties to russia in 2016. ♪♪ you're watching "jose diaz-balart reports." alart repo. when i first noticed symptoms, which kept coming and going, i should have gone to the doctor. instead, i tried to let it pass. if you experience irregular heartbeat, heart racing, chest pain, shortness of breath, fatigue, or light-headedness, you should talk to your doctor. afib increases the risk of stroke about 5 times. when it comes to your health, this is no time to wait.

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33 past the hour. now to washington and the long-awaited results of the investigation into the origins of the fbi's probe of potential ties between russia and donald trump's 2016 presidential campaign. special counsel durham's report was highly critical of the fbi. but it did not produce any block buster revelations to back up trump's claims he was framed by a corrupt deep state conspiracy. the former president reacted on his social media site saying, quote, the american public was scammed. some republicans senators use the report to attack the fbi. >> the fbi has an awful lot of work to do to restructure itself and repair its reputation. >> directory is not done -- performed his primary goal of restoring integrity and confidence in the fbi. he has done the exact opposite. >> with us now to take a closer look, nbc news justice and ken

dilanian and philip mudd, former senior intelligence adviser to the fbi. so ken, what else did we learn from this report? there were some troubling things coming out of it. >> reporter: yeah, there were, jose. but it didn't break a lot of new ground because the department of justice inspector general had already exhaustively examined this investigation and published a report back in 2019 that identified a lot of failures and misjudgments by the fbi, mostly by fbi personnel who no longer work at the bureau. the fbi says they made a number of improvements. what's significant really is that this was the special counsel. he was supposed to find criminal -- potential criminality here if you listen to donald trump and his allies that the fbi conspired and acted out of political bias and sought to frame essentially the former president and his allies. well, durham didn't find any of that. he didn't find that any particular fbi agent acted out of political bias. he did accuse the fbi of

confirmation bias, being too credulous about believing evidence that supports their thesis. the justice department and the fbi are being very careful about how they respond to this because they know that they're under fire. i just had a chance to hear from matt olson, the assistant attorney general for national security, take a listen to what he had to say about durham report. >> i had the chance to first review it when it was released to the public yesterday afternoon, as you know, it's hundreds of pages long. you know, as you can imagine, it's being carefully reviewed within the department and to ensure we take any necessary steps in response to the report. >> reporter: so, the fbi is also saying in a statement that they have made a number of changes in response to that 2019 ig report. they said if those reforms had been in place back in 2016, a lot of the missteps identified by durham could not have happened. >> ken, what exactly is confirmation bias in its work of

the fbi? >> so, in the context of this situation you have donald trump appeals publicly for the russians to find hillary clinton's emails, saying nice things about putin. you had russia hacking into the democrats and then they got a tip that the russians had approached a trump aide about helping the trump campaign. now, as it turns out, that didn't happen. there's no evidence it happened. but they began to see the evidence that confirm what had they already thought or believed was happening, which was that there were potential links between the trump campaign and russia. at the end of the day after a long, exhaustive investigation by robert mueller he didn't find any formal coordination between the trump campaign and russia. he found a host of troubling contacts. the senate intelligence committee found it was an actual counterintelligence threat to the united states. that report was written by republicans, by the way. so that's where confirmation bias came in. durham said the fbi did not carefully scrutinize the evidence in the way that they

should. they are saying there were also allegations about potential foreign influence over the hillary clinton that they treated more skeptically. >> phillip, what do you make of the durham report? >> i agree with ken. i hesitate to say this. i want to disagree with reporters. he's right. if you're looking for a bomb shell in the reports are overstated about bomb shells in this report. you have to go back to what ken referred to and that's the inspector general at the fbi. inspector generals in my experience are very, very tough. the inspector general when he reviewed this at the fbi was extremely rough on the bureau. so now we fast forward several years. and durham, who is a very respected investigator, really respected. you have to take what he says seriously comes out and offers an equally rough excoriation of the fbi. so when you look at it and say, interesting investigation. worth reading. i'm going to read it again today. but surprises i wouldn't go that far. i was waiting for a potential

referral for prosecution. we obviously didn't get that. i would say this is interesting but not shocking. >> phillip, the fbi said they already made improvements. just take that at face value? phillip, any way to find out or determine whether they have made those changes? >> you want to be spectacle of the fbi, you should. this report is an embarrassment. i would say yes for one simple reason. when you look at political investigations, the most sensitive investigations the fbi does of political figures in this case a unique investigation of the president, there is no way that the fbi wants to get dragged through the mud again on a case like this. any attorney general, any fbi director, any people down the line are not only going to say, hey, it's the right thing to change, but, b, we can't afford another one of these. i would also say that nobody, nobody, wants their name in the newspaper about an overaggressive political investigation in the future. nobody. it's just embarrassing.

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yes, you mentioned polls are extremely close, well within the margin of error. millions of dollars spent on this race. and the issues when you listen to the candidates centered on crime, housing, infrastructure in this area. but there's a race that's also being watched beyond jacksonville because it's a signal for democrats and their ability to perform in this state. jacksonville, duval county where they've been seeing success up until desantis's re-election in 2022. in 2018, gillam flipped it. then came governor desantis when he won re-election by a double digit margin. was that a one off or part of a new trend in this area? i want you to listen to how both party chairs broke it down to me just yesterday. >> duval county is a battleground. it's an epic battleground. in a microcosm epitomizes the great struggle between the right

and the left that's been involving our nation for years now. >> jacksonville is one of the last major large cities not only in this state but in the country that still has a republican incumbent. this is a true opportunity for us to get a democrat elected to this office for the first time in eight years. >> reporter: this is also somewhat of a test of the impact and influence of governor desantis. desantis throwing his endorsement behind the republican here. though not campaigning with him, at least during this run-off period. but it's a question that people are asking him, what power, what influence, what ability do democrats in this state have in this new era where florida looks less like the blue or purple state that it once was and now that solid republican -- now has that solid republican dominance here, jose. >> yeah. matthew, let's talk about that. desantis won that by plus 12. he hasn't apparently been going door to door with the candidate,

but certainly is endorsing him. how significant is desantis in this race in florida? >> well, to add on what was said, i think it's important for a couple of reasons. first, it's desantis proving that he has some ability outside of his own self to help republicans win races. that's one of his selling points that he's going nationally with, saying that we're tired of losing. we can't keep losing. if he can't keep a mayor's race in one of the largest cities in his state which is only voted democratic one time in the last 30 years that city has only voted for a democratic mayor one time in the last 30 years, undermines his ability. the other thing i think this shows is that this is a continuing sort of flow. we have seen it almost in every major city over the last 25 years. jacksonville is -- as it was said, the largest city still held by a republican and of the top 30 cities in the country, it's one of the last 30 cities in the country still held the

mayor's race -- the mayor's office still held by a republican. so i think it's a test of ron desantis -- less about florida, i think, and much more about does -- can he sell a message with evidence that he has an ability to elect other republicans? >> speaking of desantis, nbc news is reporting the governor's political operation has already moved into a new office, triggering a potential presidential announcement. what do you see there? >> well, he has to figure out a way to confront donald trump. if the only way you win this race as a republican is you have to get the field narrowed. he doesn't have a lot of control over. and you have to be in the lane of i'm not donald trump. he's gone up to the edge, but he's never mentioned his name every time he made a criticism of that. so i think the odds are still against him. donald trump is more popular today in america than he was when he won the republican nomination, among the republicans, among republicans, more popular today than he was in 2016 when he won the republican nomination. so, if he's going to get in this

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camp school in between, the sidewalk school has education for children who applied for asylum. joining us is the founder of the school. last time we spoke you said students come to you sad after their parents tried making asylum appointments. what do they share how they are doing in their hopes for the future? >> right now, there is a lot of confusion on the mexico side. i'm not sure if people are aware, when we make these laws, the news and -- the u.s. government doesn't say these are the laws and policies. that's up to ngos like the sidewalk school to show families and single adults these are the new laws and policies. you have to decide what you want to do.

>> the lack of information is prime land for disinformation and misinformation. what are some of the biggest challenges that these families are facing now? if you present yourself at the port of entry, you lose your chance at asylum. that's what people have traveled across eight countries for, to get to the border to ask for asylum. the first day, when people who did line up, less than 100 people, and we told them, these are the new laws and policies, and if you present yourself, you lose that chance. families gout up and got out of the line. once they had that information. >> look, there's no one that knows this better than you.

100% of the men, women, and children that i have spoken to that have gone through that journey in an attempt to reach the united states and request asylum tell me the worst part of the journey is how mexico treats them. it's not the mexican people who open their arms to people, but it's corrupt government officials, police, and the cartel. what do you think could be done to help people? i'm wondering, is there nothing that mexico should be taking responsibility for as far as treating human beings and allowing these corrupt figures and cartel members to exploit and destroy people? >> i think a lot could be done on the mexico side. first, there could be a shelter opened to get rid of all of these encampments. there's seven encampments. it leaves people open to whoever

wants to come and do whatever they like, because you are sleeping out in an encampment in a makeshift tent. that leaves you open to a lot of things. if they opened up shelters, that could be one. at least they would have safety. as far as corruption goes, that's a hard issue to tackle, because that's part of the government. >> yeah. >> we are forcing people to stay there, to wait for an appointment that could take five, six months to get. >> i thank you for being with us. thank you so much for what you do day and day out. there's a new top chef. a nigerian chef appears to have set a new global record for the longest session of nonstop

cooking. she cooked for 100 hours. she did take five-minute breaks every hour. thousands cheered as she cooked up a storm between last thursday and yesterday. they are aware of the attempt but they need to confirm the evidence. she said she did it to put young african women on the map. that wraps up the hour for me. i'm jose diaz-balart. you can reach me on twitter and instagram. you can watch highlights from today's show online. thank you for the privilege of your time. andrea mitchel picks up with more news right now. right now on "andrea mitchell reports," a critical showdown at the white house this afternoon. speaker mccarthy and congressional leaders back behind closed doors with president biden after staffs worked through the weekend trying to find middle ground. can they reach a compromise before the government defaults

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