the scene. as far as the dog goes, police wrote in a post, the dog does not face charges and was let go with just a warning. can't make this stuff up. katy tur reports starts now. s n. good to be with you. president biden could be changing his plans in the face of debt negotiations, which are happening right now inside the white house. we're going to explain that in a moment because it's hard to get more explicit. suffering and a recession is, if

congress fails to act and the u.s. defaults on its debt will be bad. it's something that looks more possible by the day. the clock is ticking. speaker kevin mccarthy says he wants a deal by this weekend. that it's the only way to give both houses of congress enough time to actually mark up and pass anything on the debt ceiling. but president biden is leaving town tomorrow heading for the g-7 in japan. what punch bowl called a damned if he does, if he doesn't situation for biden with the stakes incredibly high. so with both of those things in mind, the clock and the travel, what is being said inside the white house right now? speaker mccarthy is there meeting with president biden for the third time to avoid a default. look at the background in a

second. don't worry. what's on the table and what's even possible. does an acceptable compromise exist? one that actually passes not just the split congress, but this split congress. joining me now, nbc news white house correspondent, monica alba. nbc news senior reporter, sahill and jake sherman. jake, i want to start with you. he's headed to the white house or is there now. this meeting is starting. what is the expectation? what's he saying an it? >> he said it's time to get down to business. he said what a lot of people have been saying which is this is not a difficult deal. congress has cut many more difficult deals than this. this is effectively a budget cap deal, deciding what to spend for the next couple of years,

throwing in permitting reform. and a couple other dogs and cats as we say in legislative terms, but the time crunch cannot be overstated. there are 16 days between now and june 1st. that is not a lot of time to get a bill through both chambers. especially when it takes a week to get anything through the senate and there's no bit, there's no even framework that's been agreed to between the republicans and democrats so far so they're really behind the 8 ball here and i'm not sure how they're going to get out of this besides making some major progress today. some of the gripes is that there's no principals in the rooms. it's just been staff level discussions. mccarthy and several republicans and democrats have said it's time to get decision makers together and to make decisions. let me put it this way. if they emerge from this meeting in an hour or so at the white house and said they're still making no progress, that will be

like a five alarm fire because they need to start making progress. it's tuesday. and they don't even have a framework yet. >> let's play what janet yellen said in full about what's going to happen if congress does not act. >> default could cause widespread suffering as americans lose the income they need to get by. and the resulting income shock could lead to a recession that destroys many american jobs and businesses. the u.s. economy hangs in the balance. the livelihoods of millions of americans do, too. so there's no time to waste. congress should address the debt limit as soon as possible. >> millions of jobs. the livelihood of many americans. monica, is the president changing his plans regarding the g-7 trip and saying here to

negotiate further? it seemed like that's what john kirby was indicating. maybe i'm reading too much into it. earlier when asked about this trip. >> in the run up to all of this, we've heard from the white house that the trip is proceeding as planned but just now to your point for the first time, the white house seems to be leaving the door open for there to be some major shifts to the schedule. now we do know the president is planning to leave tomorrow for japan. for the g-7 summit where he will be having now some added meetings to the agenda, which is significant in terms of reading the tea leaves because now the white house is saying some meetings that could have taken place later on in australia, what was going to be the quad summit with australia, japan, and india, now can take place actually in japan. so if the president is able to talk to all the world leaders there, get that business done, then it sounds like they are possibly bracing for adjusting this trip and it does come after mounting pressure to do this.

there had been a lot of questions about whether the president should be leaving the country as this debt ceiling deadline looms and the white house had always said he's the president wherever he goes. he can talk and be a part of conversations from anywhere he goes. now we're seeing a shift that does signal to me at least, they are just feeling the urgency, the pressure and from secretary yellen's comments, it's critical they want to communicate that to the american public as well. that maybe isn't picking up as much on what's at stake here and by making adjustments, that would maybe perk people's ears up more but i think to jake's point, this meeting has to take place. first,they have to see where they are, but according to my sources, they're not hopeful for a framework or agreement today. what they're really hoping for is just some common areas of agreement on fertile ground where they could reach some compromise, but no one is expecting this to be resolved

today. >> that seems like something that they should have been talking about fertile ground, months ago. if they were looking at this deadline. what has been going on until now? and do you have any indication from the white house that there are areas they are willing to compromise on? work requirements seemed like one of them but as sahil will tell us, there was a big backlash from democrats on the hill. >> absolutely. the president was the one who tweeted kind of leaving that door open saying he didn't want to discuss anything or consider anything that would push americans into poverty. but saying they were willing to look at the proposals republicans would bring when it comes to work requirements to be eligible for some federal benefits. so it's something where they're not saying no, absolutely not, it's off the table. in fact, it's something that's on the table, which a week ago when we were in the position talking about the meeting, we didn't know what was on the list of what they could consider. so at least now over the last

six days at the staff level, that's what they've been able to be productive on. identify areas where they can come together today, like spending cuts and raising the debt ceiling, that they couldn't really get to last week. so if there's any progress, it's incremental, but it's there. the big question is what happens in today's meeting that pushes it a tiny bit further. >> so i ask is a compromise even possible in a divided congress. what mccarthy wants and what the democrats want, they're very far apart. so when the president mentioned work requirements being on the table and monica said they are, there was a revolt in the democrat party and the house. explain what happened. >> yes, there was. progressives don't like the idea of imposing tougher work requirements. the sentiment is that is is 1980s or '90s joe biden who would do that. not the 2020 version they ended up supporting.

a number of progressives say this is not going to fly with them. that includes ro khanna who said on our network today it's a nonstarter for him. he called it cruel. senator chris murphy who has his ninger on the pulse of the mainstream democratic party, said it would be impossible to work out in the next seven to ten days something that complicated. dick durbin also pushing back on this idea. so it's difficult to see how a work requirements piece comes together. one that can satisfy democrats as well as mccarthy's hard right members who wanted to work requirements to be tougher than they were in the house republican bill. that's one of several contentious issues and any kind of agreement. what they're going to try to do in this white house meeting, what staff members have been trying to do is come up with a process that satisfies both parties red lines. republicans want concessions for the debt limit. democrats want to negotiate on the budget.

if they get a parallel track, how that works out is difficult in part because of the problem with contentious pieces like work requirement, spending caps is going to be another problem. there are other things that are easier. like recapturing unspent covid funds. the idea of it details pending has a lot of bipartisan interest. this meeting is going to be crucial in terms of figuring out in the next 16 days if they can move this forward. is this the storm before the calm or are we headed to disaster? >> the democrats in the house don't matter as much as republicans do because they have the majority and can pass legislation. democrats in the senate matter a whole lot because they have the majority in the senate. so when they're looking at what could be on the table, talk to me about the red lines for the republicans, the red lines for the democrats in the senate and what you see as something that's feasible with again this

congress, this specific divided congress. >> i agree with everything he said. work requirements would be really difficult. this morning when mccarthy was coming out of his house republican meeting, i said are work requirements a red line for you? he said yes. he said he needs something on work requirements and part of that is internal politics. he needs to show he's fighting for the priorities that they passed in their bill, in their debt limit bill they passed last month. that's driving a lot of what he's doing here. but the thing mccarthy keeps saying and his aides keep saying, they want to limit spending. that's budget caps. democrats would really want two years. doesn't really matter because congress ends up undoing those. safe is the covid piece. reclaiming the covid money which is not a big deal. a savings of somewhere between

57 billion and $60 billion and the grow piece is the permitting reform piece. that's it. not a terribly complicated deal. in 2011, john boehner and barack obama put together one deal that got scuttled and another that was very large and detailed. we're really not talking about a very complicated agreement here. democrats, here's the problem. here's been the problem according to republicans and democrats. they need the white house broadly speaking to get in the room and say this is what we're agreeing to and democrats have to fall in line. instead, they have the white house, senate democrats, house democrats in the room and they all have different thresholds for pain and tolerance. that's really difficult and republicans, for better or worse, have a unified position, which is that bill that has no chance of becoming law that the house passed a few weeks ago. so that's kind of the structural challenge in this negotiation and the challenge of getting a deal. hopefully if you're somebody that wants a deal and we don't want default, what a lot of

people keep telling me is to slim down this room. take a lot of people out of it. get a couple of principals as every deal has been done in the past. steven mnuchin and nancy pelosi did this in 2019. get them to work out a deal and mccarthy said this yesterday. some democrats in the senate said it. get the people who can make a decision in the room and do it quickly. >> no small thing for mccarthy. if he doesn't act in a way approved by his caucus, he could be out of a speakership. thank you guys. when three well sourced reporters are in agreement, it says a lot. coming up, the north carolina state house is voting today to override cover cooper's veto. we're watching four potential flips. what those gop lawmakers are saying today about their vote. plus, a former employee is suing rudy giuliani. what she says he did and what she has to prove it. and two congressional

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ten-week ban for medication abortion. already in north carolina, people are backed up with appointments. sometimes four weeks wait time. we've become an access point in the southeast so we know clinics are already strained. with these new requirements on clinics, planned parenthood has told us many of them may have to close because they cannot meet these requirements and with the three in person visits that are required along with the new visits required for the clinics, we think it will be even harder for women to access healthcare. >> joining me now is nbc news washington correspondent, yamiche. we've been watching four lawmakers including trisha coffman who was a democrat when elected then switched parties to be a republican. she in the past was arguing in favor of access to abortion, citing her own abortion. we played the sound bite of her in 2015. she was endorsed by emily's

list, the abortion access group and there's ted davis. another gop lawmakers who was absent from the initial vote that initially passed 12-week ban. the one cooper vetoed. either one of them talking today? >> it's a great question. from what i understand, there aren't any lawmakers speaking out, but republicans seem to have the votes to be able to push through this override and to override the veto of that democratic governor. who's been pushing and trying to get just one republican in the north carolina senate or house to change their minds anned you bring up trisha, a former democrat. there's also john bradford, ted davis and michael lee. the people that the republican, the governor has been really trying to convince to change their minds but this bill, which remind people whizzed through the north carolina general assembly in less than 48 hours.

this is a quick decision they made the first time around. it's expected to be quick the second time around even though the timing of the vote is still fluid, there's this feeling that republicans are going to be able to push this through. >> we will see. thank you very much. and let's go into the white house right now. president biden and speaker mccarthy alongside the other two big leaders of congress. trying to hash out a deal. and the vice president, kamala harris. trying to hash out a deal. let's listen. >> available when this is over. >> mr. president -- >> thank you so much. o much >> much better.

you see it. >> we're keeping moving. thank you so much. >> thank you. >> thank you so much! >> thank you. >> always something fairly, i don't know, weird about that shot where everyone just screams a bunch of questions and the lawmakers in the room, the president, doesn't say anything. a lot of times, he does, but when they don't, it feels a little silly. that being said, at the top of

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saying he raped her and stole her wages for the two years she worked for him. she claimed he quote worked aggressively to hire her as a once in a lifetime opportunity but she says the job offer was bunk and that what he wanted was sex. we'll get into the details in a moment including her claims that he was trying to sell presidential pardons. his office says the former mayor quote unequivocally denies the allegations. donald trump's 2024 campaign team has not responded to our request for comment. joining me now is nbc news justice and intelligence correspondent, ken dilanian. this is a pretty wild lawsuit. >> disturbing. she says in the 70-page complaint that after he hired her, he sexually assaulted her,

harassed her, refused to pay her wages and made sexist and antisemitic remarks. she's seeking $10 million in compensatory damages. she said he hired her and would pay her $10 million a year. the suit alleges that he told her he was selling pardons for $2 million and he and president trump would split is money. as you said, giuliani is flatly denying these allegations who said his lifetime of public service speaks for itself and he will pursue all available remedies and counterclaims. >> thank you so much. and joining me now is former press secretary and spokesman for giuliani's 1993 mayoral

campaign. ken was a recent consultant on a documentary about giuliani. ken, i want to start with you before we get to danny with the details of this lawsuit. from what you read, does this sound like the rudy giuliani that you know? >> no. it doesn't. i never knew rudy to use such crude language. apparently, he's been hanging around with trump in the locker room. no, i never knew him to use racist language. i never knew him to use antisemitic language. and i'm not you know, i'm not disputing her claim. i'm just telling you that it doesn't ring true for me personally. >> so what do you make of this? this lawsuit that she's bringing and the rudy giuliani that certainly that you worked for in 1993 and the rudy giuliani we saw work for donald trump and the rudy giuliani who's currently being accused of doing

some pretty terrible things by this woman who said she was an employee. >> yeah. well, this woman, i'm not here to act as his defense attorney or prosecutor but she has a history of accusing men of sexual impropriety. back in '16, she filed a claim against someone for the same allegations. again, i'm not saying she's not telling the truth, but it doesn't, it just doesn't sound, it doesn't sound like him. he's a lot of things but he's not a racist and he's not an antisemite. pardoning, selling pardons unpardonable. if that's true, that's a big issue and it's particularly ironic because i remember being with rudy when he hung a photo of a giant check from mark rich.

it was a $100 million check. he hung it on the wall. i think at that time, it might have been the largest asset seizure in american history. he was very proud of the fact that he seized that money from rich and he was very upset that bill clinton gave him a pardon. so here we are all these years later, it's again, full circle. pretty ironic. not unlike the rico case that willis is building in georgia. as you know, rudy pioneered the use of rico to go after the bomb. >> we want to be careful that just because somebody has had an accusation in the past, it means her accusation in the present should not be believed. i know it's not what you're doing but i want to underline that. not for me to pass judgment on whether this stuff happened but she does say that she has recordings and she has some text messages. we can put them up on the screen. you know, they're sexually

flirtatious is a nice way of putting it. her side, less so. what do you make of this lawsuit, danny? >> if it's true, it reads almost like a tale of human trafficking. it is pretty gruesome. you just need to look it up online. it's available online. the allegations sound horrible. but what interests me is the allegations i'm not minimizing what she alleges she went through at the hands of giuliani, but one of the things that jumps out at me is what is more provable. of course in cases of sexual assault, unfortunately, it's often one person's word against anothers because assailants often isolate their victims, but what is interesting to me is this allegation she was offered a million dollars a year and paid virtually none of it. for something like that, there will be receipts. documents. is there an offer. is there an acceptance?

is there the absence of recordkeeping? you can't just defer someone's compensation and not keep records. you can't fail to pay a minimum wage and fail to keep records of that. those are the kinds of things as a plaintiff's attorney, what is the easiest thing to prove and this complaint alleges some things that should be easy to find out. did you fail to pay them or pay at all? of course you're not going to pay them in a lump sum, but where are the canceled checks? that jumps out in addition to recordings and other things like text messages which are right there in black and white or blue and white. >> let me ask you about what was included in this lawsuit. 70 pages. we saw the messages. there were a couple of other things but why not include the receipts, maybe the e-mails talking about the job offer. why not include more detail. maybe the audio recordings.

why just include these text messages? >> because the modern complaint in the plaintiff's world has become less about alleging an actionable complaint. this could be done in eight or nine pages. the modern complaint against a high profile person using e filing has become a press release. so that's why you see allegations about the borat movie in there. borat, the movie, has nothing to do with this case but and frankly i'm guilty of it too, myself sometimes, you put in a complaint as much information as you can to put out your story and that's exactly what they're doing knowing that because it's e-filed, we're all getting it in pdf form and you can't unring that bell. even if rudy moves to say strike that borat. it's out there. these allegations are out there. he's already on his heels defensively because she's alleged, she's going to prove all these facts. it's 70 pages of some really, really gruesome stuff.

>> she's making a lot of lurid and gruesome allegations here. he's categorically denying them all. you're a lawyer. you're saying these things should be pretty provable in court. if they happen, she should have the receipts to back them up. especially on the stuff regarding her employment. >> the wage issues, yes. to the extent she may have audio recorded, those will speak for themselves. if he hired her like any other employer, you've got to do some paper work. we're not in the 1920s anymore. you should use a payroll company and keep proper records. both federal law and new york state law requires this kind of recordkeeping. again, i'm not minimizing the sexual assault allegations, but i look at some of the allegations that may be more provable and relatively quickly. >> danny, thank you so much. ken, thank you as well.

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three people were killed and six injured after a gun man allegedly opened fire on a residential street. according to the police chief, the 18-year-old shooter appeared to be firing at random with an ar style weapon. the 225th mass shooting this career. it happened in new mexico and as according to the gun violence archive, 225 number. erin mcloughlin tells us what happened. >> about 50 shots. possibly still going on. >> gunfire erupting monday morning in farmington, new mexico. about 200 miles west of santa fe. >> walking south, wearing all black. got an automatic weapon. >> where police say the suspect roamed through an area of up to a quarter of a mile, firing at

least three different weapons including an ar-15. >> this point, appears to be purely random. at least six houses and three cars were shot. in the course of the event as the suspect randomly fired at whatever entered his head to shoot at. >> three were killed and six injured including two police officers. now in stable condition. the 18-year-old suspect seen here before he was shot and killed by police. the governor and mayor praising law enforcement saying it took just five minutes to stop the shooter. adding that quick response likely saved countless lives. jolene was home with her baby daughter when she heard the shots. >> it went from pop, pop, pop, to pop, pop, pop, pop. i freaked out because i knew then it was gun shots and i just grabbed my daughter. we just barricaded in between the washer and dry. >> the 1-year-old's bedroom wall

pierced by bullets. issuing a statement saying today is a painful reminder that we must do more. we are committed to fighting for sensible gun safety measures that will keep new mexicans safe. there were 225 mass shootings in 2023 alone according to the gun violence archive which includes any shooting with at least four victims. this morning, another community in the u.s. left reeling. >> it's heartbreaking for the victims. who were just going about their every day life. >> and we're learning more about the man who police say attacked two of virginia congressman connolly's staffers with a bat at his fairfax office. new video appears to show the 49-year-old suspect chasing another woman with that same bat in the neighborhood right before he allegedly went to connolly's office. joining me now is nbc news

capitol hill correspondent, ryan nobles. what has he be charged with, this man? >> he's facing four charges. three are felonies and they are both dealing with those incidents you were talking about. one, the attack on the congressman's office then this second attack where he approached a woman sitting in her car, asked her if she was white and then smashed the windshield of her car before chasing her away. the video you showed earlier. he is someone who has been dealing with mental health issues. he's had run ins with the police before. in january, he was arrested. the charges were dismissed and he was put in a mental health treatment program but it appears he was still dealing with those issues. that is something congressman connolly specifically pointed to. he believed this was a mental health issue. he said that right now, he and his staff are still dealing with the aftermath of this incident that happened just a little more than 24 hours ago. >> one of the staffers who was

injured, she's an intern, and today was her first day. so imagine your first day in the office, someone comes in with a baseball bat and beats you. you know. so, we've got issues we're going to deal with but i've got a strong and resilient staff. they're committed to their mission and are not going to be deterred by this kind of tragic incident. >> he told me today, his wife joined other members of the staff, staff that were not specifically involved. they were cleaning his office out. they were cleaning up blood, glass, computers that were smash nd the aftermath of this rampage. he's now reevaluating his security posture. one of the things they're dealing with is they want to be

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learn more at boost.com/tv as promised, we have breaking news from the white house. right now, president biden and speaker mccarthy are in talks about the debt limit and we have just learned a little bit about the president's upcoming trip to japan for the g-7. joining me now is kelly o'donnell from the white house. kelly, what have you got? >> we're able to break this news that the president will cut short his overseas trip. he's due to leave tomorrow for japan and the g-7 summit of the world's largest economies. he was then supposed to go to two other countries. new guinea, the first sitting u.s. president to visit that island, and australia, a key u.s. ally and partner, for what is known as the quad summit. those two stops are off the table now and we expect the president will be making a

change and i am told by a source familiar with the trip planning here that the president has decided he will come back on sunday in order to be able to work with congress and to insure they take action on the debt ce. now to put this in perspective, these international summits are planned months if not years. there's a lot of agenda on high stakes involvement for everyone there. it would also put the president on the world's stage at a time when a domestic issue is so critical, and there have been some calls from republicans in congress that the president should not leave the country when this debt crisis is looming, so the president is sort of splitting the trip, the g7, which is in japan, as i mentioned, and is an important part of the issues with ukraine, the issues of global economic concerns, and certainly to show that the u.s. is going to make good on its promises, things like paying its credit.

the president will go on that portion of the trip, leaving tomorrow, and then will come back earlier sunday and as we've talked about, katy, june 1st is the loose deadline for the united states not being able to pay its bills because of tax revenue coming in, expenses going out and not having the ability to raise the borrowing limit, so that is still a very tight time line, just over two weeks where the president has to work with congress to try to get this done. you mentioned the meeting is going on right now with speaker mccarthy, chuck schumer, the democratic leader of the senate and the other two partners, mitch mcconnell and hakeem jeffries. included today is also the vice president who is in the meeting for the first time and the first of two of these sessions. will they make progress? that's going to be a big test. there are issues like work rules, and having that attached to requirements for certain federal benefits. that's one of the things being talked about. that is a sticking point for republicans, and something that progressive democrats don't want

to see. so to have the president make this decision to change an international summit schedule is certainly an indication of how big a deal avoiding default is, and what the president is prepared to do to try to make a deal come together with congress. >> and kevin mccarthy wants to get it done this weekend, says congress needs at least a week for each house to mark up and then pass this legislation, and then we are heading up toward that, i like how you said it, that loose deadline june 1st. there's also other breaking news that we just got confirmed. monica alba at the white house just confirmed for us. this was first reported by "the washington post." the national security adviser, jake sullivan, had a break-in at his home in the middle of the night, at 3:00 a.m. it's news worthy because one, he had a break-in, but also because head around-the-clock secret service agents attached to him and his home, and it appears that this man was able to get inside of jake sullivan's home

and slip past those secret service agents. "the washington post" is reporting that there was no appearance of any forced entry at his home. obviously jake sullivan was not harmed. he's back at work, but certainly a scary situation. here is a statement from secret service. secret service is examining a security incident that took place at a protecte site. we are taking this matter seriously, and opened a comprehensive mission assurance investigation to review all facets of what occurred. any deviation from our protective protocols is unacceptable, and if discovered, personnel will be held accountable. modifications to the productive posture have been made to assure additional security are in place as we conduct this comprehensive review. kelly i know you're still there. i don't remember this ever happening before, do you? >> i don't.

it's highly concerning, and of course it does come in the greater spectrum of what we saw with speaker pelosi's husband, paul pelosi, being at home when there was an attack at his home. certainly we saw the incident in the district office of congressman gerry connolly of virginia, so there has been an atmosphere where public officials and their families can be -- and staff -- can be targeted by intruders. we don't know all the circumstances around jake sullivan. he is what you would certainly consider a high value target for any potential criminal activity or national security activity. being the president's national security adviser, a very senior member of the administration, someone who is at the president's elbow for all the big decisions, travels the world on behalf of the united states. recently had a meeting with his chinese counter part, so for the home of jake sullivan to have any intrusion is certainly of great concern, and thankfully, as you noted, no injury, no harm

to sullivan or his family. but it certainly raises questions and is of deep concern for any of the protectees and the environment that has more encroachment on public figures. >> and the secret service was guarding its home, thank you very much. let's go to carol leonnig, you broke this story, walk us through all the details. >> yeah, i couldn't agree more about the level of concern. we don't know who this intruder was. from all of the evidence that we've gathered so far at "the washington post" and that we've learned from other sources, there is no intelligence or apparent intention to harm jake sullivan. this intruder seemed to have been intoxicated, seemed to have been confused upon entry of the home, but the real big alarm bell here is that the secret service was not aware that a

person basically walked right in to his house in the middle of the night. and, you know, i'm not in the position of blaming anyone about this, but i would say that, you know, the reason it set off alarm bells and why sources reached out to us was that a previous national security adviser was the subject of a foreign assassination plot that was discovered by the fbi and that charges were brought just last year. that was john bolton, iranian military official has been charged with paying someone to try to kill him on u.s. soil, so that's why jake sullivan has 24/7 protection, and we would hope as americans protecting him would be a little tighter than somebody being able to get into his home in the middle of the night. >> i wonder if you've gotten any more details about how this person got in. no sign of forced entry, and it appears, i guess, from your

official reporting that he was intoxicated and just confused but how do you get into such a high value protectees home especially when you have secret service guarding you, and do you know how many agents he has, what the detail looks like? >> i'm going to sound like a secret service agent now when i say that it would probably be not the wisest thing to give the number of people that protect him when he's on travel and when he's at home. i think that we might want to not share every little detail of that. i also think it's important, katy, to say as i know you value this, to say what we do know and what we don't know, and right now we don't know who this person is because they apparently left the scene before the secret service was able to question or discuss anything with them. so some of our conclusions about this person are based on partial information. if this was a normal situation, an agent would have detected

this person, detained them for questioning. it probably would have been charged with trespassing, and everything about them would have been rifled through to figure out whether they were telling the whole truth and nothing but the truth and make sure there wasn't any possible way in which they were part of some larger plot to harm sullivan. we just don't know all the answers to that. as for access to the property, this is the manner in which access was gained. this is something we will continue to report, and when we meet the standard for publishing it, we will absolutely share it, and we are just not this that position right now. >> in the statement the secret service gave us, they say modifications to the protective posture have also been made to ensure additional security measures are in place. i appreciate you don't want to get into the number of people in jake sullivan's detail. i imagine you're probably going to tell me the same thing if you knew what those modifications were. >> i want to be clear, i don't

know every modification. i know what would be the standard set of things they would add, more people, more bodies, and the other thing would be reassessing the actual home security system that sullivan does or does not have at his home. it is really typical, by the way, katy, when somebody has 24/7 protection that they both have physical presence of agents around them when they travel, and when they sleep at their own home at night, but also a private home security system, and the reason that the paul pelosi situation is similar, although the secret service was not protecting him and had no duty to protect him, the reason that that's important is many, many people who are protected by the secret service fail to turn on their private home security system, and i am not saying that about jake sullivan. i'm saying that about many other security breaches that i've reported on and learned about.

>> that is a very interesting fact. we know with paul pelosi, not secret service but capitol police, and we did have all of that video of the man break into his home from the security cameras, but it apparently did not alert authorities before he was able to get in. carol leonnig of the "washington post," who broke the news about jake sullivan's home being broken into at 3:00 a.m. thank you so much. that's going to do it for me today. "deadline white house" starts right now. ♪♪ hi there, everyone, it's 4:00 in new york. there are new questions today regarding the access peddling and potential corruption that defined the trump era. that is thanks to a lawsuit against one of the central players in the disgraced ex-president's innermost circle, rudy giuliani. this new lawsuit comes from a woman named noel