♪♪ good day, i'm chris jansing live at msnbc headquarters in new york city. today republicans are testing the limits of state power, leveraging their supermajorities to broaden abortion bans in multiple states. key moves in just the last 24 hours in four different states including north carolina. which until now was one of a vanishing few options for women seeking abortion access across the south. and speaking of testing limits can president biden broker a deal on the debt

ceiling from 7,000 miles away, despite almost no tangible signs of significant progress and the president heading to japan, no one in washington or on wall street seems to be panicking, at least not yet. and significant concerns that the man in charge of protecting the country was apparently left without protection of his own. what we just learned about the late night intrusion at the home of national security adviser jake sullivan, one that his own secret service detail didn't know about until after the sullivan himself found the man wandering around inside. we start with abortion access for millions of women being decided in realtime today. the fate of the so-called abortion pill heads back to court just one hour from now. in north carolina the republicans voted unanimously to override the governor's veto and shrink the window for abortions from 20 weeks to 12. same story in nebraska where the new ban was folded into a bill

on transgender care for minors. it's expected to get a final vote before the end of the week. in south carolina, the democratic minority is trying to chip away at an even more restrictive bill, one that would ban abortion at just six weeks, introducing nearly a thousand amendments in an attempt to slow things down. at one point during the debate, which ended after a computer failure around 1:30 a.m. before starting up again this morning, a democrat took a shot at the legislature itself noting that more than 80% of state house lawmakers are men. >> we are not considering the mental state of these women because unless you've been pregnant before, you have no earthly idea what these ladies go through. and as i look through the audience, i don't see many in here that's going to pass this bill that's been pregnant before. >> even if you don't live in one of these states, you could still be impacted as a new chapter in the legal fight over

mifepristone starts today down in louisiana, where an appeals court will weigh in on whether to ban it nationwide. we've got a lot to talk about. let me bring in nbc news senior legal correspondent laura jarrett, shaquille brewster joins us with the latest from north carolina, and alencia johnson is a political strategist who served as a senior adviser to the biden campaign in 2020 and also spent six years with planned parenthood. thanks to all of you for being here. laura, i want to start with this legal fight over mifepristone. what are we expecting from this hearing today? >> i expect to see three judges deeply skeptical of the biden administration's plan. these are three judges who have a history of upholding abortion restrictions in the past, and of course we don't know exactly how they will rule when it comes to mifepristone, but remember what the issue here is that lower court decision from a judge in texas last month who said that the fda did not rightly approve mifepristone 23 years ago, didn't have the authority to make it easier to obtain, like

getting it in the mail, not having to go to a doctor's office in person, things like that. that's what the biden administration is fighting about today. that lower court decision. but again, facing a bench, which is not the bench they had hoped to pull from this circuit court of appeals. >> whatever happens here is at the end of it. >> it's already gone u up to the supreme court. it's gone through a number of twists and turns, the supreme court is the group that had put it on pause, that lower court decision on pause. which is why everyone has access to mifmifepristone. if the biden administration loses today, it will go right back up to the supreme court and ask to make sure that the pill stays on the market. >> take us to north carolina, what happens where you are now that the legislature has overridden a governor's veto of the abortion ban there? >> reporter: well, this bill is now law. the provisions of it go into effect on july 1st, and one of those provisions, it starts with the 12-week abortion ban. there are some exceptions.

it goes up to 20 weeks in cases of rape and incest and 24 weeks when there's a life limiting fetal anomaly in the words of the legislation. you have opponents saying this is a roll back of rights for women. they point to not just the rule that rolled back the time in which -- the window in which women can have an abortion, but also the restrictions on abortion clinics. new regulations, new paperwork requirements, and even an additional appointment that women need to go to in person in order to start a 72-hour window in order to have an abortion. that was a provision i asked the speaker of the house, a republican here about directly. listen to a little bit of how he defended that provision. >> we relied on what doctors were telling us, even some doctors who maybe didn't support the bill because -- >> doctors we've talked to said that's not a need that they can adjust that care and give women that care even without the

direct in-person appointment. >> i think there's probably a difference of opinion among medical professionals, but i can tell you that i met personally with doctors who would consider themselves pro-choice who felt like a lot of the safeguards that we put in this bill made sense. >> reporter: yeah, doctors -- some doctors in planned parenthood a conversation i had earlier today, they said this legislation could threaten the existence of the existing clinics already in this state and make it harder for women in poverty, women who are not in hospital -- or in counties with hospitals, make it harder to access that care. it's important to know, chris, this happened because republicans have a super majority in the legislature. so despite the democratic governor vetoing this restriction, you have republicans able to pass through this legislation and enact it into law despite that veto. >> alencia, north carolina was critical because it provided abortion access for women that a lot of them couldn't get in

surrounding states. by one count, north carolina saw an additional 5 million abortions there in the six months since roe was overturned, so the impact of this ban, it's just one example, is it not, of how what one state does can have much farther reaching implications. >> i think that's absolutely correct, when we were talking about one mifepristone, it was just a case in texas, that will have implications across the entire country. in the case of north carolina, to your point, there are people who are driving across state lines in order to access abortion care there, particularly from the south, right? particularly from these deep red states who were going against the will of the people. but this extremism, we're seeing actual political backlash. we're talking about states like kansas and kentucky and how when voters were directly asked about this issue, they actually voted in favor to keep access to abortion rights. and i think we're going to

continue to see that. but unfortunately there are going to be very real, very present implications that are impacting patients today while they're waiting for court decisions. >> alencia, there was a republican state senator who said that actually this bill is mainstream, a common sense approach to a very difficult topic. it doesn't ban abortions it does drop the threshold from 20 weeks to 12, roughly the end of the first trimester. the latest poll we could find in 2021 found that more than 60% of americans think abortion should be legal in most or all cases during the first trimester, but that number drops to just 34% once the second trimester begins. so does she have a point? does a 12-week law, in fact, reflect a view of a majority of americans? >> i think what this poll shows is the view of american in which they understand abortion access.

i think since the dobbs decision has been overturned so many more people are understanding what it actually means to manage a pregnancy, what it actually means to manage a miscarriage. these situations that people who even want to have children find themselves in and why access to abortion must be expanded and not necessarily limited to the first trimester and. so i think polling like this is helpful for advocates as they are continuing to explain something that, quite frankly, we should be trusting our doctors for and not necessarily politicians or people who have never actually been in an operating room or necessarily been in a health care center with patients. this polling lets us know the information gap that is out there as well as how people's positions are moving over the years. you know, i worked at planned parenthood. you talked about this for six years and a lot of this polling has shifted. there's more support for access to abortion care. i would imagine as we continue to see what is happening to

patients who are trying to manage their pregnancy, they're finding themselves unfortunately in life or death situations. this polling will actually move in favor of abortion rights at the second and third tremendous trimester as well. >> let me ask you to put on your hat as a political strategist. abortion is clearly an early dividing line among presidential candidates for '24. donald trump was asked about the six-week abortion ban governor desantis signed in florida, and he said, quote, many people within the pro-life movement feel that it was too harsh, but here's desantis's response. >> protecting an unborn child when there's a detectable heartbeat is something that almost probably 99% of pro-lifers support, and i think that as a florida resident, you know, he didn't give an answer about would you have signed the heartbeat bill that florida did, that had all the exceptions that people talk about, the legislature put it in. i signed the bill. i was proud to do it.

he will not answer whether he would sign it or not. >> it's well-documented how abortion played in 2022. is it still going to be there in 2024, and what do you see for democrats and how they fight this fight? >> well, a couple of things. i mean, donald trump was also out there this morning, you know, running around telling people that he was the one that overturned roe v. wade, so you can't figure out exactly what he's going to say. it is interesting, though, that they continue to go down this path when as you acknowledge, in 2022, it was a deciding factor for so many voters. we have seen those even in very red states that have been a deciding factor for a lot of voters. and so i think what you're going to continue to see is democrats actually pushing for republicans to be on the record about how extreme they are, about wanting a total national abortion ban. you're also going to see vice president kamala harris out there as the champion on this

issue that she has been even before the dobbs decision was leaked. as we saw her last night talking about the gala about why it's so important to protect access to abortion. and even for people who may or may not have children, they see this issue as a direct correlation to the attack on our freedom and democracy, and democrats are going to continue to lean into it as the republicans continue to try to out extreme one another, which might work for them in a primaried election. once they secure the nomination, unfortunately it is a losing issue for them in a general. >> laura jarrett, shaquille brewster, alencia johnson, thank you all so much. up next, still a lot of work to do, but kevin mccarthy is not ruling out a possible debt limit deal within days. plus, the president abroad, the major stakes for biden's trip to the big g-7 meeting in japan. we're back in 60 seconds. 're bas

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we're following breaking royal news, a spokesperson for prince harry and meghan markle says the couple was involved in a near catastrophic car chase with the paparazzi last night in new york. a chase they say lasted more than two hours and involved multiple near collisions, but questions are being raised as well about those details including whether any new york police were in dang. danger. let's get to ron allen. i understand we just got a new statement from nypd, what can you tell us about all this? >> reporter: we did. this happened around 10:00 last night. she was receiving an award here at the zigfeld theater. there were a number of photographers outside who dnts know where they were going. they're staying in an apartment

on the upper east side a mile or two from here. they're followed. the nypd put out a statement just a little while ago saying, quote, that there were numerous photographers that made their transport challenging. the duke and duchess of sussex arrived at their destination, and there were no reported collisions, summons, injuries, or arrests in regard. and sources that we've talked to have said that it was not a chase and that it was a bit of a chaotic situation, trying to almost tone this down a little bit because clearly the sussexes were very upset to put out a statement like they did. of course this does harken back to the death of harry's mother diana in 1997 when he was 12 years old. it was just an erie reminder, chilling similarities where she and her partner were leaving a restaurant at 2:00 in the morning, a huge number of parisian paparazzi followed them. there was a high speed chase, the and an awful crash in a

tunnel. the driver was found to be over the alcohol limit, drunk essentially. harry again, 12 years old. he has said that still haunts him. that's one of the reasons he moved from the uk to california to escape the intensity of the p paparazzi. you heard how the nypd and others have described it as well. >> ron allen, thank you for that update. much appreciated. meantime right now, president biden is in the air on his way to japan for the g-7 summit, but he leaves a d.c. where the pressure to lift the debt limit is reaching an urgent boiling point with just a couple of weeks until that estimated debt ceiling doomsday clock runs out. this morning the president called his meeting with congressional leaders yesterday productive. >> i'm confident that we'll get the agreement on the budget, that america will not default. we're going to come together because there's no alternative.

we have to do the right thing for the country. >> house speaker kevin mccarthy is also hinting at progress saying it's possible to get a deal by the end of the week. still, no one is really sure, so the president is cutting his foreign trip short returning home on sunday instead of traveling to australia and papua new guinea. nbc's ali vitali is on capitol hill for us. also with me "the new york times" chief white house correspondent, hiroshima, japan, ahead of the president's visit. we know the white house negotiators and mccarthy aides are meeting again today, but what do we know about where these negotiations stand right now? >> reporter: look, i guess we'll see, but i can tell you that the tone shift from mccarthy especially between yesterday before that second meeting and now today in light of it is markedly different. it means that the way that president biden and now the speaker are talking about progress is much more in line, it seems like they're in agreement, a, that there cannot

be a default, which i think to everybody allows us to breathe a little bit of a sigh of relief. how they avoid that default is the open question. we've heard from the president, the white house, other top negotiators that the key points in these negotiations have actually remained pretty the same, chris. they're focused around things like permitting reform, like clawing back unspent covid funds. those are the things that seem to be consensus points, but now we're starting to see the drawing of red lines on both sides, this idea, for example, of adding more work requirements to certain federal programs like snap that help people who are food insecure access food. that's something that for mccarthy he is saying is a red line that it must be in the ultimate deal for his conference. for the white house, they're leaving open the possibility that it could be in the deal. progressives here on capitol hill are very unhappy about that. nonetheless, this as house speaker mccarthy talked about it when he was asked about this sticking point. watch. >> on work requirements he'd accept not anything of any

consequence. [ laughter ] >> i don't -- anything that has consequences. this is a senator who voted for work requirements. listen, i think when you're sitting in the room and you're listening to the american public, why wouldn't he want to help people get out of poverty. >> reporter: just to unpack that a little bit, this is republicans being asked about the president's statement about not accepting any kind of work requirements with any consequence. they're laughing because of the squishiness of that statement out of the white house, but then mccarthy also turning back around and saying, hey, back in 2011 this is something that the president had previously supported. i think we're going to be hearing a lot, and peter will also i'm sure see the similarities here between now and the 2011 debt ceiling negotiations. at that point biden was leading them. now as we turn to this next phase, chris, seeing the white house appoint key veterans of the biden administration who have close ties to the hill to directly negotiate with key

allies to speaker mccarthy, now these negotiations are looking a little more 2011-esque, and the hope is they can bare fruit now. >> maybe a deal by the end of the week is possible, how far apart can they be really? what do biden's comments this morning, what does the whole picture look like to you? >> the movement is much better as ali said, that's important. they started out as such varying points, and president biden has made a pretty significant concession. he said he's not going to negotiate anything tied to the debt limit, whether it's officially tied, formally tied or not, negotiating spending limits just as the house republicans wanted him to do. s that actually disappointed some of the democrats who thought he should have stood firm. he's talking about a deal. aside from the work requirements, aside from the clawing back of covid funds and the other issues ali talked about, they have a fundamental

profound difference of the view of how to look at the deficit the next ten years. the republicans would put forward a plan that would cut discretionary spending, not defense, social security, medicare, but everything else, higher taxes on the wealthy and on corporations. these are very, very different polls. if they're going to have a meaningful plan on the deficit, it's hard to see how they reconcile those two things. we have to see how meaningful the deal is. >> you've been around the white house a very long time, a president will tell you every white house staff will tell you, doesn't matter where the president is. he can be in touch with anybody he wants to be at any minute of any day, so having said that, why the decision for him to come back not to go to papua new guinea, not to go to australia, how much of it was optics. how much was the real need that the administration felt that he needed to be there face-to-face?

>> yeah, he could be president anywhere in the world. he should be in washington. they managed to send out both messages at the same time, of course, right? it is true obviously he's not going to be the one doing the nuts and bolts negotiating. that's going to be steve burchetti. in the end the leader's going to have to shove it over the final line. they don't have to do that this week. you know, we have seen in washington time and time again this be pushed to the final limit right where we're about to head over whatever cliff we're about to head over. that won't be until the end of the month. that doesn't mean it looks good for him to be, you know, out of the country for 11 days or ten days or whatever it was going to be. i think you're right, a lot of this is about optics. a lot of this is about sending priority messages to the country saying, look, i get it. i think this is so important. i'm going to make the sarifice of something i think is important otherwise, show how important these negotiations really are. >> ali vitali, and peter baker, thank you both so much.

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the southern border after florida governor ron desantis announced he's deploying more than a thousand state and national guard personnel, plus military supplies to texas. it's happening even though border crossing numbers continue to drop with dhs arresting fewer people every day since the end of title 42 last week. i'm joined by nbc's matt dixon and julia ainsley. what's the idea here? what exactly are these troops going to be doing? >> it's hard to say what specific duties they're going to be doing until they get there. there's documents that the request that texas actually made, the emergency management assistance compact sent to states across the country, sort of outlines a few duties. they range from logistics, working in an emergency operations center, which is kind of a building, more of an office typesetting with laptops and planning, and then there's also those going to be helping support operation decks on the border, which is obviously a much more hands on sort of role, and they are sworn -- they will have the ability to arrest just

like if they were texas law enforcement. i think it's one important thing to note, the breadth of state resources here. the national guard troops are going, 800 of them. it's also sort of state troopers, the florida wildlife commission is sending law enforcement, so there's a whole bunch of agencies that are going to be impacted here in the state during at least the 30 days that they're going to be at the border. that can be extended. so far it's going to be 30 days. >> julia, even though the numbers are going down, is there a need for more personnel in texas right now? >> yeah, that's a good question, and actually, state law enforcement cannot do the actual apprehension and processing of migrants. that's only left up to the federal government since immigration laws are federal statutes. so in this case what we've seen in the past with texas law enforcement and texas national guard is they are able to do more on the front lines to try to tell migrants where they can't cross, and sometimes they might run into conflict with border patrol. some agents say that could do

more harm than good. others have a different opinion, say because of them doing that job, they're able to get out to the front lines and do their jobs more often, or it allows more of them to do the processing of migrants when they're coming across. these numbers keep dipping. they're the lowest point we've seen during the biden administration. it's really strange timing to be choosing this time to go into texas. it's also the second time the florida governor has helped the texas governor out with immigration in that state. if you remember earlier or actually the end of last year, desantis sent migrants to martha's vineyard, not migrants from florida but migrants from texas. it's interesting and hard to see this out of a political context that perhaps desantis wants these headlines to bring the border back into the conversation as he's looking at running for president because even though the numbers are dropping, it's good for him to keep showing his firm stance on immigration. >> meantime, julia, you also have some new reporting, i understand, about migrants released into the u.s. what can you tell us?

>> yeah, that's right. so nbc was first to report that there was a memo going out that would release migrants without court dates or the ability to track them. they'd have 60 days to report to an ice office to get their court date, and a judge actually ruled that they couldn't go forward with that policy, and as a result, we found out that they stopped the policy, but they couldn't turn the spigot off quite in time. they've processed over 6,400 migrants that way, 2,500 of those after the temporary restraining order, but the judge ruled last night that he understood that those people had to be released because they've been processed before the temporary restraining order came in play. all that to say, yes, there were 6,400 migrants released without court dates or without the ability to track them. now, that could get some on the right very upset, but it's also important to remember that when a migrant is released without a court date, a lot of immigration advocates say that does a huge disservice to migrants because in the rush to release they might not understand they only have a one-year window to apply

for asylum. as they wait and wait for that court date, they might miss that opportunity. >> julia ainsley, matt dixon, thank you both so much. meanwhile, the florida governor ron desantis is 0 for 2 this morning after the two candidates he backed lost their races last night. he made a last minute endorsement of kelly kraft in the republican primary for kentucky governor, but the trump-backed candidate beat her in a landslide. in a shocking upset in florida's biggest city, the republican desantis endorsed to win the jacksonville mayor's race lost to an underdog democrat. dasha burns will be live from kentucky with the latest on that republican race for governor and the coming november showdown with incumbent democratic governor andy beshear. elon musk on the record, the tech billionaire defending giving credence to conspiracy theories just as we're heading into the 2024 race. plus, litigating the losses, kari lake won't give up trying to overturn her loss in the race

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lake, a former tv anchor who endorsed former president trump's election conspiracy theories lost to democrat katie hobbs by more than 17,000 votes in november. as the 2024 campaign season heats up and social media is poised to have a bigger impact than ever, elon musk is defending his promotion of conspiracy theories on twitter, which of course he owns. in a rare hour-long exclusive interview with cnbc the tech billionaire touched on topics ranging from ai and tesla's future to the morality of remote work. cnbc's david faber got that rare interview and joins us now. david, first of all, this was fascinating. among the things you talked to musk about, you pressed him on his controversial twitter posts. here's what he said. >> do your tweets hurt the company? are there tesla owners that say i don't agree with his political position because -- and i know it because he shares so much of it. or are there advertisers on twitter that will come and say,

you got to stop, man, you know, i can't get these ads because of some of the things you tweet? >> you know, i'm reminded of the scene in "the princess bride," great movie. >> great movie. >> where he confronts the person who killed his father, and he says, offer me money, offer me power. i don't care. >> so you just don't care? you want to share what you have to say. >> i'll say what i want to say, and if the consequence of that

is losing money, so be it. >> that is the longest pregnant pause and, first of all, as a fellow journalist, i admire your patience in just letting it play out. thank you. >> but did you get the sense, david, that musk sees the potential impact of his comments on his platform? give us the larger context. >> it's a great question. he's clearly aware, i believe, that it can have and does have an impact on the willingness of advertisers to become advertisers on twitter or perhaps even the willingness of people to buy a tesla or owners of tesla's excitement about keeping that tesla if they disagree with him, and he gives you plenty of chances to do that given how often he tweets about very controversial subjects or, again, at least gives voice to certain conspiracy theories. you know, i don't know, though, i mean, he is still held in such high esteem by so many people as well.

he's admired by so many, and i don't know that he really fully thinks through the influence he has and the impact that this communicating he does can have on it, but again, you heard it. he does not care. he's going to say what he feels he has to say and that's it. >> i was also fascinated by the fact he does sleep six hours a night he told you, but he takes two or three days a year off when he's not doing serious work. is that what he said? >> it is, yeah. two or three days a year, works seven days a week, sleeps six hours a day. he's unique in so many ways. we say this all the time on cnbc, he's the most consequential businessman on the planet, tesla, twitter, spacex, star link, and other companies as well. so many important companies, and yet, i'll tell you in arranging the interview with him, it was with him, no handlers, no pr people, nobody coming into the room with him, nobody saying

anything, and him to his credit saying nothing is off limits. so, you know, it's just a unique approach in every way that this man seems to have. >> fascinating stuff, great interview. i recommend it to people who haven't had a chance to see it yet. and cnbc's david faber. thank you so much. coming up, a man broke into the national security adviser's house at 3:00 in the morning last month. the conflicting explanations about how it happened and what's being done to shore up security of key officials. but first, the titanic in a way you've never seen it before. look at this, long thought to have sunk in one piece, this new first of its kind 3d scan revealing new clues about how the titanic sank in 1912 suggesting the ship could have been grounded on a submerged portion of an iceberg rather than hitting one of the ship's starboard side. the scans also create a kind of digital twin of the ship as

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a shocking security breach in our nation's capital at the home of one of the most senior officials in the u.s. government. the secret service confirming to nbc it is investigating how a man was able to enter national security adviser jake sullivan's

house in the middle of the night just a few weeks ago. even more shocking, the agents stationed outside sullivan's home didn't even know about the intruder until he left. sullivan told them about the breach. nbc capitol hill correspondent ryan nobles joins me now along with carol leonnig of "the washington post" who broke this story. carol, carol, carol, we always seem to be talking at times like this. how does this happen? how does somebody just walk through the door of someone with secret service protection? >> you know, chris, that's whey we wrote the story because, you know, we expect and hope that the secret service protection, the bubble that is around the national security adviser, is better than a person who appeared to be confused and intoxicated walking in the front door of the home of that person. it's so striking, and we are

still trying to understand what exactly happened other than jake sullivan has full-time protection. he has agents who are station outside his home, and they were unaware on that particular night that a person walked inside roughly at 3:00 in the morning on a weekend evening. >> so ryan, i was listening to andrea's show an hour ago, and john bolton was on and he said i don't know of anybody who's been protected by the secret service where this has developed. i wonder what reaction, if any, you're hearing on capitol hill. >> reporter: there hasn't been a ton of reaction right now to it, chris. we've reached out to the chairs of the homeland security committees which has oversight into secret service right now. i think like many, people are just trying to wrap their minds around how something like this could have happened to carol's point, and you know, even the secret service was pretty quick to respond to carol's reporting

by essentially confirming and admitting that it was a serious security breach and that they are making changes immediately as a result of it while they investigate how something like this could happen, and i think the other striking part of all of this and the big part of carol's reporting is that, is that, you know, they haven't even been able to question the intruder because he was able to escape before they even realized what was going on. this, you know s a serious problem on many levels, and one that, you know, as is practiced with the secret service, we may not even get a full resolution to at the end of the day because they do not like discussing their security protocols for obvious reasons. >> yeah, when i was covering the white house back in 2014, as you well know, a guy walked into the white house. the secret service first claimed that he just got to the door, and then he was quickly detained at the entrance, but you revealed he'd actually run through a lot of the main floor before he was stopped, so there was a big investigation.

there was a report. should the lessons and changes, then, as i recall, they involved training and staffing and communication, granted very different locations, very different situations. should they have covered this incident? >> chris, i really really like the way you framed this question about the history of the secret service, not just because it included a story of mine, but i have to give hats off to the secret service for being so transparent about this breach and the seriousness of it. i mean, it's not the white house, it's not the president. but it is the national security adviser at his home where he should expect that people notice who are protecting him when somebody pierces the bubble around his home. that should happen, and there's got to be a reason why this was allowed to -- this person, this intruder was able to go through undetected. but i have to say, hats off to the secret service for being clear, transparent, and immediately responding to

reporting that found this happened. that is not the way the secret service always operated, so at least they're doing that. now, i have to say, agents have reached out to me in the wake of this story, former agents and they have said that they have a couple of theories. we're still working on what exactly went wrong, but they flagged a couple of things that i think are worth talking about. they are, sometimes somebody with 24/7 protection has a home security system. and that security system sometimes is not armed. that's the decision of the person that's being protected. if you don't use all the security at your house, that can be a problem. the other thing agents have flagged to me is that sometimes people who are being protected don't like to have agents immediately outside their front door. they want them a little bit of a distance away. that could have also impacted the ability to detect an intruder. we, again, don't know the answers. i'm just relying on agents who

have experience this this and have flagged ways in which this may have happened. i will look forward to what the secret service investigation uncovers. >> and no doubt you will have it first as you always do. thank you for coming on the program. ryan nobles, thanks to you as well. high-tech for high altitudes, how new technology is helping officials track water from melting snow in california's mountains in order to prevent devastating floods. this is really cool stuff. you're watching "chris jansing reports" only on msnbc. reports" only on msnbc keep your laundry smelling fresh waaaay longer than detergent alone. if you want laundry to smell fresh for weeks, make sure you have downy unstopables in-wash scent boosters. age is just a number, and mine's unlisted. try boost® high protein with 20 grams of protein for muscle health versus 16 grams in ensure® high protein. boost® high protein. now available in cinnabon® bakery-inspired flavor.

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weather whiplash, parts of droughts hurting california are now grappling with the opposite problem. there's way too much snow. nbc's steve patterson with an inside look at the changes and the stakes. >> from 23,000 feet, it feels like an expanse of the arctic circle. this is modern day california. all of this snow, a rare sight, high above the sierra mountains. >> absolutely remarkable. the coating of the snow pack across the mountains, or something out of star wars. >> it's a result of the state's weather whiplash, more than 30 back-to-back atmospheric rivers, flipping the threat from historic drought to historic flood risk. 55 billion tons of snow, enough to fill every major state reservoir twice. >> for football fans, you could

fill the rose bowl about 85,000 times. >> wow. >> reporter: snow scientists and pilot thomas painter has been tasked with leading expeditions above the snow pack, using first of its kind data. >> our information gives the complete picture over the mountain basin. again, we're touching every square foot of snow pack with our lasers. >> reporter: the goal to give a model of the snow pack, only possible through simplistic measurements, so the state has a better idea of when and where flooding could occur as temperatures rise and the snow melts posing a huge risk to millions in low lying communities. climatologists say the snow pack will leading to flooding in california. there's simply too much water, how much and where really depends on the weather and early heat wave could cause a lot of trouble. >> steve patterson, nbc news. we have a lot to cover in

our second hour of "chris jansing reports," let's get right to it. at this hour, former president trump is taking a victory lap after his pick in kentucky's republican gubernatorial primary rolled to an easy win last night, crushing the ron desantis-backed kelly kraft by 30 points, so what's next for daniel cameron and his bid to defeat the popular democrat, andy beshear. the family of a u.s. special forces soldier now confirming he was killed trying to help ukrainian fighters. but before he entered the war zone, he spoke to our own raf sanchez. nicholas maymer explaining in his own words why he went to ukraine. that's coming up. the first black woman to serve as u.s. attorney in massachusetts is stepping down amid allegations of ethical misconduct. the move is extremely rare and comes before the results of the