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♪♪ hello and thanks so much for joining us. i'm ana cabrera in new york. it is 10:00 eastern. this morning president biden is overseas for a high stakes summit in japan. it's a delicate balancing act for the president touting the u.s. as an economic power house to the allies while simultaneously working to stop the u.s. from teetering on the brink of default. back in washington, the president's team is furiously negotiating with congressional republicans. now just two weeks left until our country runs out of money. plus, tiktok going viral, but not in montana. the state becoming the first in the u.s. to ban the popular social media app, but will it actually work? >> so now we're just going to start banning tiktok on a state by state basis, huh? >> speaking from my own page in montana here, i am going to keep posting.
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>> we'll have a live report coming up on the legal fight over the ban and on the other states that may follow suit. and new reporting this morning about how soon ron desantis could announce a bid for the presidency, as the culture wars take center stage in the republican fight for the white house. and that's where we're going to begin this morning with news on the 2024 race. "the wall street journal" reporting florida governor ron desantis will officially enter the race for president next week, and that's according to people familiar with his decision. now, nbc news has not confirmed that reporting just yet, but it all comes amid a flurry of political activity from desantis's office as governor, including signing new laws in florida to expand the so-called don't say gay law and ban gender affirming care for minors. joining us now is nbc news correspondent vaughn hillyard, former republican governor of north carolina and msnbc contributor pat mccrory, and symone sanders townsend whose former press secretary for vice president kamala harris and host of "symone" right here on msnbc.
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we have so much to talk about. vaughn, first, what do you know about this becoming official from desan snis. >> on monday our team captured footage of potential campaign staffers beginning to move into headquarters in tallahassee. that essentially starts the clock of two weeks in which he must formally announce, sometime by the end of next week. we are waiting for that confirmation. we saw him in iowa him go out on the campaign trail with members of the super pac that have been promoting him. there was a campaign bus that was ron desantis for president. there were campaign staffers alongside him. it's a matter of how many days away are we and who else may jump into fray. glenn youngkin posted a video, it wasn't him announing for president, but it looked an awful awfully lot like this.
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>> governor mccrory, if and when desantis enters this race, how does it change the game? >> it's not if, it's when. almost all these candidates that are still -- have hired their campaign teams and they've been in place for months at this point in time. i think desantis's strategy since he's behind much further than he anticipated is to pick state by state and try to make it close between him and trump, and iowa would be the first test of not following the national polls but trying to put a dent into trump in iowa and then going to new hampshire and then trying to get momentum, and i think that's the desantis strategy at this point in time. >> symone, you might call it an early preview of the gop primary, president trump yesterday mocking desantis for endorsing losing candidates pointing to elections in kentucky and florida. of course trump's flame thrower tactics worked for him in 2016. what does it tell the biden camp about what they might be up
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against? >> look, i think the biden camp should be keeping their powder dry as it relates to republicans. they really need to focus on their democratic coalition. while there will not be an active competitive primary that president biden will have to run in, he is going to have to ensure that folks want to come out and vote for he and vice president harris. i know julie rodriguez chavez, the campaign manager has a memo out tonight talking about the communities that the campaign is going to target, how they're going to engage in this media environment, so on and so forth, and i think that is going to be important. again, our community's going to feel that engagement. the governor talks about desantis getting on the ground and really going state by state, and frankly, that's what president biden is going to have to do and vice president harris to shore up their base, but also expand their coalition. >> so vaughn, governor ron desantis just signed these new bills into law last night, again, expanding don't say gay law, talking about gender affirming care for minors, and by the way, this came on
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international day against transphobia. maybe that's just coincidental, but is this going to be a culture war campaign, and wouldn't trump love to go toe to toe on that? >> ron desantis now joins 18 other states with passing the sort of ban on transaffirming care for minors. for republican governors this has become a key issue that they have worked with their legislatures to pass. ron desantis was at the forefront of this. i think when we're talking in political terms, last year there was a lot of backlash when he signed that initial legislation in the spring of 2022. he ended up going on to handily win his re-election. the question is what would be the general election repercussions? he won in decisive terms. when you go to republican events, whether it be cpac or a trump rally or a desantis event, time and again, the issue that gets the loudest response from the crowd is having to do with a ban on gender affirming care or ban on trans athletes being able to take part in the sport with
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the gender they identify with, and so for republican cause here, donald trump is trying to match where ron desantis is at here and essentially this legislation just lays down the foundation for where republicans are going to be likely in this presidential race. >> but governor, i mean, attacking transgender kids, why is that what republicans care about right now? should that be what they care about? should that be the party's priority. >> there are two social issues, one the republicans are on the defensive, that's abortion. a very conservative north carolina legislature instead of doing six months like most republican states are doing now, they went to 12 months -- >> six weeks, they went to 12 weeks. >> 12 weeks, i apologize. 6 weeks to 12 weeks, which is a major move for republicans in a primary. on the gender identity issue, they're actually seeing the
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polls especially with the issue of women in sports lean toward them on that issue, especially with the soccer moms that are going, wait a minute, that might be too far. so they're following the polls both on abortion where they're starting to kind of move away from abortion unlike what florida did, florida is six weeks, north carolina went to 12 weeks. they're staying with it because the polls are showing especially with women's athletes it works in their favor and might put the defensive, the democrats on the defensive on that issue. >> do you think this puts democrats on the offensive? >> vaughn talked about the politics of the issue, but this really all just boils down to people, and i think this freedom argument that -- not that you just heard from the president and vice president, but i'm thinking of pat ryan, democrat that won in new york 19, a swing district, a bellwether district if you will in the midterm
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elections, he talked about all of the issues, abortion, being able to make decisions about your family, issues of freedom. and i think this really boils down to freedom for people across the country, and while -- i mean, the governor is right about some of this polling that i think a number of -- it's not just republican campaigns, i think just in general polling, particularly about the issue among republican voters. but i think you have to broaden it out from republican voteers and talk about the kind of makeup that a general election would be. that's republicans, it's independents, it's democrats. it's people that don't necessarily identify with any party, don't even want to say they're independent, but they're paying attention, and it boils down to being able to make their own decisions about every aspect of their lives when it comes to education, when it comes to children and their bodies. >> in fact, what's happening is right now both parties are talking to their base. they're talking to the primary base. in the general election, i think both parties will move to the economy. >> do you think that republicans are pushing their party further
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and further to the right, when you look at desantis and trump you brought up the issue of abortion. yesterday trump was sort of doing a victory lap on the end of roe v. wade, taking credit for it. desantis is one of the governors in a republican state that issued the six week or signed the six-week abortion law into law, the bill, and he did that kind of in the middle of the night, no fanfare, he must not think that's actually really popular in a general election. >> the polling shows in a general election that most of the general public looks at from 12 weeks to 15 to 16 weeks. that's where the center of america is, but the two bases are either all or nothing, and right now even the republicans aren't wanting to talk about it, including donald trump doesn't want to get into specifics of where he stands on the issue of abortion. so they're looking at the polls on that and also the gender identity issue. >> and if i may to symone's point there, asa hutchinson is the candidate i come back to in
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this because back when he was governor, he actually vetoed the arkansas legislature's ban on gender affirming care for minors. he made the point that symone just laid out there that this is a parent's rights issue here, and if we are truly the conservative party that we purport to be, that we should be leaving those health care decisions to the hands of the doctors and the families. asa hutchinson, that is not in lock step with where the republican party is in terms of ron desantis or donald trump, so the question is can that message, somebody who is eager to deliver it, can he resonate at least among some part of that republican electorate because that may be the message that could work for a greater part of the general election. >> knowing asa very well, and he's a more moderate governor and conservative, but i think he would like to have the conversation be totally on the economy because that's where he feels comfortable. >> thank you for joining us,
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vaughn hillyard, pat mccrory, and symone sanders townsend. over in montana it's just become the first state to ban one of the world's most popular apps, tiktok. republican governor greg gianforte signed a bill yesterday to crack down on downloads, but it's still not clear whether that ban will hold up in the courts. tiktok and the aclu are slamming this move as unconstitutional saying it violates free speech. nbc news national correspondent miguel almaguer has more on this ban and the legal fight ahead. >> montana's new law, which goes into effect next year is being closely watched by lawmakers as there's now a discussion about a national ban on tiktok. the question now, will it happen? this morning in montana, the clock is ticking for tiktok. >> so now we're just going to start banning tiktok on a state by state basis. >> reporter: the state becoming the first in the nation to totally ban the wildly popular
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social media app, governor greg gianforte calling the new law the most decisive action of any state, adding it will protect montanans personal and private data from the chinese communist party. tiktok firing back saying the law infringes on first amendment rights promising montana residents can continue using the app as we continue working to defend the rights of our use e. the law would not only make it illegal for tiktok to operate in montana but banning app stores from making it available to download with possible fines up to $10,000 daily for each violation. >> it doesn't criminalize actual users' conduct, it criminalizes the sale, so it targets the app sellers. that might be the app store or that might be tiktok itself. >> tiktok with some 150 million american users is owned by the chinese company bytedance. some critics fear that could give the chinese government
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access to sensitive user data or the ability to manipulate what content people see, a claim tiktok's ceo strongly dispute instead a recent capitol hill hearing. >> bytedance is not owned or controlled by the chinese government. it's a private company. >> reporter: still 46 states have already banned or are working to ban tiktok from state-owned devices and networks, with the u.s. government now prohibiting the video sharing app on all federal devices. congress has also proposed bipartisan legislation to ban the app, but for now, frustrated influencers in montana will have to wait to see what happens. >> speaking from my own page in montana here, i am going to keep posting. >> there are questions today over enforcement of this new ban, exactly how that would look. that's still being ironed out in many states, as other states look to enforce similar bans. back to you. >> miguel almaguer, thank you. and when we we're back in
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getting regular updates on those negotiations as his team huddles can capitol hill negotiators in d.c. traveling with the president in japan, nbc news white house -- and peter baker. also with us nbc news senior capitol hill correspondent garrett haake in washington and, mike, let me start with you because i'm wondering what's the president hoping to accomplish on this trip, and how much is that being overshadowed by what's happening at home? >> reporter: well, ana, of course it's being overshadowed very clearly in the sense that the president's itinerary had to be cut short. we recall the president calling the prime minister of australia earlier this week to apologize for the fact he will not be able to stop there. he also of course we just learned in the last few hours, called the prime minister of papua new guinea to inform him that he would not be attending. he's going to be sending secretary of state tony blinken in his place. white house officials emphasizing that the president
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still is going to keep a very full agenda here in japan, the focus of course going to be that war in ukraine, the aid to the developing world as well as efforts to continue to counter china's growing influence in the region, but there has been criticism including from speaker kevin mccarthy of the fact that the president is traveling here at all. john kirby of the national security counsel punching back to say that that criticism is a bit rich from speaker mccarthy considering the speaker himself spent a week traveling overseas earlier this month, the trip that delayed the initial meeting that the big four had with president biden at the white house. but it was, of course, while the g-7 leaders do have that full agenda in the formal sessions, so much attention is going to be paid to what are the conversations like behind the scenes. can president biden as our colleague sally bron ston asked jake sullivan the national security adviser earlier today, guarantee to his counterparts that the u.s. will avoid a default that will have global
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economic, the president is confident he will be able to avoid a default, but he's going to explain to his counterparts that's aren't he is traveling back to the u.s. early. >> the president has said the leaders have all agreed whether he not default. every leader has said that, it is a quote from their more recent meetings prior to this trip. we know the president's team is working hard making regular trips to the capitol. we're two weeks from that june 1st deadline. what's the latest on the negotiations right now? >> the bottom line is the negotiations at the white house was insistent wouldn't happen is well underway with negotiators between the white house and house republicans meeting for somewhere north of six hours all told yesterday. speaker mccarthy telling reporters he expects them to be in all weekend. he said he will be here all weekend working on these talks. the sort of vibe from congressional republican ss that they are still a long ways apart on the policy agreements that
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are going to have to be made to prevent default, but at least now you've got the right people in the room. it's a smaller room. it's folks steeped in the kind of policy we're talking about. mccarthy just told reporters a short time ago he doesn't think there's a deal in the immediate offing. but he can see a path to getting this done, and of course we should remind people there's going to be two stages to this. there is getting a deal and turning that deal into legislation that can pass. you can't pass a framework. you can't pass a handshake agreement. you've got to get a bill with the details passed and through to chambers. how many times have we covered something like this that goes right down to the wire either because of technical challenges or power snafus that weren't foreseen. >> there are some real world impacts of this bill, the debt ceiling bill if a deal can't be reached by june 1st, americans could see delayed social security checks, federal employees could go without pay. interest rates could spike on credit cards and mortgages, and there could potentially be millions of job losses.
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knowing that, will you see these conversations, will the urgency really start dialing up for the president and negotiators soon? >> yeah, i think, look, the catastrophic possible consequences of this are so clarifying that it's -- you know, it's unthinkable to most democrats and even many republicans that they even talk about it. now, what you've seen is kevin mccarthy being willing to use it as leverage to get president biden to the table, and it seems to have worked. president biden is at the table, but they all seem at this point more or less committed to finding a way to avoid that. you're right, here in japan what the foreign leaders want to hear is the president tell them that it won't actually get to that point. it would affect them took into consideration not just americans in the united states but foreign countries as well would be affected by any kind of shock waves sent through the american economy because it's the largest in the world. >> we have some exclusive
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reporting on a new house bill that would block pay for members of congress if the u.s. defaults. is this what it's going to take to motivate lawmakers? >> well, the short answer is no, ana. a bill like this is unlikely to pass before we get to that debt ceiling deadline, if it's likely to pass at all. what this is more about is bipartisan lawmakers, usually some of the folks in the most competitive districts signaling to their constituents they are as frustrated as their voters are. kind of being willing to put a bill on the floor or at least in the media saying i won't get paid if this doesn't go through. it's a way of signaling i'm just like you. don't blame me this is going sideways. >> president biden already cut short his trip. based on your report should the president be optimistic about a deal being reached over the weekend or do we have a ways to go? >> history suggests, no, it won't happen that soon. in fact, we've seen time and time again in washington when we're facing this kind of a
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cliff, whether it be a government shutdown or a debt ceil kind of thing, it always waits until close to the deadline, which is a clarifying moment. that doesn't mean it can't happen in advance. obviously there is the technical aspect of turning to actual legislation, that can't be done at the last minute without some sort of extension. it was seen rather remarkable if they were to get a deal by sunday or monday. that would be setting a new record for washington in the era. >> my thanks to all of you. up next here on ana cabrera reports, new court filings show the suspected pentagon leaker was warned multiple times about his handling of classified documents, so why did he get to keep his access? plus, some conflicting details now about what prince harry and meghan markle's spokesperson called a near catastrophic car chase in new york city, what the nypd and a cab driver are saying. a cab driver are saying.
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we're back with some breaking news from the supreme court, and a major decision regarding social media. let's get right to nbc's yamiche alcindor who's outside the court. yamiche, fill us in. >> good morning, the supreme court has unanimously decided that twitter is not going to be found liable for aiding and abetting terrorists. in this case that was argued in february, the plaintiffs were trying to say that twitter was aiding and abetting isis because
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they were at some times recommending videos of isis. it really is seen as the bedrock of the internet, it says that social media companies and websites cannot be sued for the material that is on their sites. in other words, you can't be sued for things that are being posted on your site. twitter can't be sued. this is a big decision. it's supposed to be we think a decision that's with google and youtube. that case the parents of a student killed in a terrorist attack sued to say youtube should not be recommending terrorist videos. we're waiting to see whether or not that google case is also going to be decided. a big decision with twitter not being found liable. they were found not to have a claim. >> stay with me, i want to bring in our laura jarrett who's covering these decisions as they're coming down, which the supreme court releases every ten minutes starting at 10:00. this is a big one here that we've been watching for, though, and laura, i understand they maybe did also release a similar
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case, a decision on the google case yamiche just mentioned. fill us in, what was the latest there, was it the same as twitter? >> essentially, yes. this is a big win for the tech companies that were worried that this shield law known as section 230, which for years has allowed the tech companies to avoid liability for what users post on social media, they essentially dodged that whole issue and decided that these plaintiffs couldn't actually make a claim under an entirely different law, an antiterrorism statute. and they said because they'd even make a claim, they don't have to reach the section 230 issue, which is the thing the tech companies had been so worried about in these cases, worried that the justices would somehow cut back what had been really an expansive shield law for many years. and because the court has avoided that issue completely, they don't have to reach it. now, it doesn't mean that they might not reach it in another case, ana, it doesn't mean that
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they might not find a better vehicle for it, but at least on this record, the tech companies have avoided major liability. >> does it change anything about how social media operates then, laura? >> we're going to have to dig into some of the language here. these are lengthy opinions. we'll have to dissect it a little bit to see if the justices preview or tip their hat on how they would rule on a different type of case. as of now, no. the justices point out that the plaintiffs here, the families who are grieving the loss of their loved ones who were lost in terrorist activity overseas, that they didn't sue isis. they sued the tech companies. and remember, the idea was that the tech companies were guiding people, sort of steering them to problematic isis-related propaganda that was used as a recruitment tool online, on twitter, and on google, and the idea was that those tech companies knowingly knew that their platforms were being used that way and didn't do anything about it. it seems as though based off of some of the language that the
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court was really worried about opening up pandora's box if you will, if they had allowed these claims to go forward. >> most of these supreme court decisions are all supposed to come down before the end of next month. there are still several big ones out. . >> the major one is affirmative action, a pair of cases involving harvard and the university of north carolina to decide whether, in fact, universities, colleges and universities can continue to use race as a factor when it comes to college admissions. that's obviously the biggest one of the term, but there are also voting rights cases. there's ones involving religious freedom rights and a clash between religious freedom and antidiscrimination laws on the other hand, and of course the president's student loan program still hangs out there. half a billion dollars program hangs in the balance to see what this court does.
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much to come, ana. this was one of the major decisions. again, tech liability, no tech liability, the high court has found here today. >> laura jarrett and yamiche alcindor, ladies, thanks so much. glad to have you as my partners as we catch these supreme court cases. we are learning more about the air national guardsman who's accused of one of the most significant intelligence leaks in years. new court documents reveal that jack teixeira was warned about his handling of classified materials by his superiors on multiple occasions. the 21-year-old has been in custody since the fbi arrested him in april. these new revelations coming as the court debates his pretrial release with a detention hearing tomorrow. we're joined by nbc news justice and intelligence correspondent ken dilanian. what more are you learning about teixeira being warned and why nothing was done? >> this new court filing really puts a spotlight on what looks like gross negligence on
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commanders where jack teixeira allegedly stole that classified material he leaked. what it shows is on at least three occasions, teixeira was observed doing something suspicious with classified information so troubling that it was documented in writing, but his bosses not only let him continue to work with classified materials, they took no steps to investigate what he might be doing outside of work and what he was doing, as we now know, was leaking secrets and also expressing racist and extremist sentiments online. so specifically there was this september memo in the court filing that says he was seen taking notes on classified information and putting at least one note in his pocket. and then a month later, he was ordered to, quote, cease and desist on any deep dives into classified information. in february of this year, he was again seen accessing secrets not relating to his job, but again, he preserved his access. the military has taken action in the wake of this case by suspending two commanders at the base and stripping the base of its intelligence function, but the real question here is
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whether this was just an isolated incident of incompetence on a base in cape cod or is there a broader issue where they don't have a good handle on the tens of thousands of people dealing with classified information, ana. >> thank you so much for that reporting. we are learning more this morning about what a spokesperson for the duke and duchess of sussex had described as a high speed chase with the paparazzi through the streets of manhattan. we are hearing from a new york city cab driver who says he drove prince harry and meghan markle through part of that journey through the city. as we're getting conflicting accounts from the couple and law enforcement sources about exactly what happened. nbc news correspondent stephanie gosk is joining us now with more on this. this was a story just breaking during this hour yesterday, stephanie, so much more has been revealed since then. what are you learning. >> that first account so rattling. the duke and duchess went to
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that charity event. they were going back to someone's private residence, that's where they were spending the night, and they didn't want to be followed. they of course were followed. what happened next, well, kind of depends on who you talk to. >> harry and meghan walked out of a charity event in manhattan to a sea of cameras with security at their side. according to a spokesperson for the duke and duchess a, quote, near catastrophic car chase ensued, adding highly aggressive paparazzi pursued the couple and meghan's mother for over two hours all over manhattan resulting in multiple near collisions with other drivers, pedestrians, and two nypd officers. mayor eric adams called the media irresponsible. >> it would be horrific to lose an innocent bystander during a chase like this and something to have happened to them as well. >> but the mayor cast doubt on some of the details. >> i would find it hard to believe that there was a
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two-hour high speed chase. >> a statement from the nypd went further calling the incident challenging but said there were no reported collisions, summons, injuries, or arrests. according to three senior law enforcement sources there was not a chase but they were being followed. two other sources saying the incident was a bit chaotic, that the nypd was escorting the duke and duchess and the pursuit lasted an hour and 15 minutes. at one point harry and meghan got into a yellow taxi at a police station, the driver down playing being followed. >> with me it was chaotic, but not crazy, crazy. they seemed very nervous. >> the driver says he took harry and meghan back to the police station where the couple got into another car. the paparazzi denied using aggressive driving tactics during the incident. the incident triggering memories of princess diana's death in a paris tunnel, the tragedy that shaped much of harry's life. fury with the media has built up
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over decades, harry drawing parallels to what his mother experienced and what meghan has been experiencing. >> the clicking of cameras and the flashes of cameras makes my blood boil, it makes me angry and takes me back to what i experienced as a kid. >> reporter: the relentless media attention part of the reason the couple stepped down from royal duties and moved to the u.s. they've pursued a number of public projects here including interviews, that netflix documentary, and harry's recent high profile book release. so it's important to note, ana, that harry and meghan lost their royal security detail in the uk when they stepped away from their royal duties and that is something that prince harry has been fighting to get back. this is a police presence when they're on the ground in the uk. regardless of that battle, that would not have affected what happened to them here in manhattan. >> okay. well, interesting, thank you so much, stephanie gosk. ahead here on ana cabrera reports, house republicans sidestep an effort to madly expel george santos from
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disgraced congressman george santos isn't going anywhere for now. the indicted new york freshman narrowly avoided a vote to get kicked out of congress yesterday. with house republicans instead referring this issue to the ethics committee. now, after that vote, santos defended himself on the steps of the capitol while a heated exchange broke out between one of the democrats pushing for santos to go, jamal bowman and republican flame thrower marjorie taylor greene. let's get to julie tsirkin now. congressman santos was already being investigated by the ethics committee, so what's changed? >> reporter: well, not much, and that's the argument democrats are making, especially those who are pushing the resolution to expel george santos from congress. instead, it does put more of a
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magnifying glass on the ethics committee which largely operates behind closed doors in secret without many communications with the public and the press. that panel is led by congresswoman susan wild, a democrat and republican dave joyce, and they've been investigaing multiple allegations against santos since early march including reports from a former staffer that allegedly santos is actually abused him. that's something the committee is looking into, and new reporting from my colleague ryan nobles suggests the committee will push ahead despite the department of justice asking them to slow down, they will continue this investigation on their own. here's santos, though, to reporters after actually voting with all republicans to push that resolution to the ethics committee. watch. >> i have not not done my job since i've gotten here. i can chew and walk gum at the same time. i can chew gum and walk at the same time. i have not been convicted of any crime. you insist on saying that. i will have my day to defend
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myself. >> have you talked -- >> reporter: republicans blocked democrats from outright just expelling santos, which would require a two-thirds vote on the floor. there is interesting as we're seeing with them moving this to ethics and what speaker mccarthy has stated to continue the investigation, wait for a report from the ethics committee, which could take many month asks then if they recommend to expel santos based on their findings, two-thirds of the house would need to do so. turning to the fallout from the security lapse where an intruder was apparently able to walk into the national security adviser's home in the middle of the night. two sources familiar with this matter telling nbc news that the secret service director is livid about this breach. the department considers it the result of human failure and is evaluating consequences for the agents who are supposed to provide 24-hour protection for jake sullivan. up next here on "ana cabrera
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in idaho, a grand jury has indicted bryan kohberger, the man suspected of fatally stabbing four university of idaho students. the indictment says the criminology and ph.d. student did willfully, unlawfully, deliberately with premeditation and with malice kill and murder the four victims. this indictment means prosecutors won't have to present evidence at a preliminary hearing. nbc's gadi schwartz has more. >> bryan kohberger is facing four counts of first degree murder. he's scheduled tor arraigned on monday, that's when he's expected to enter a plea. the decision to indict accused killer bryan kohberger through the grand jury means prosecutors won't have to call witnesses or present evidence in a preliminary hearing. that indictment charging kohberger with four counts of murder in the first degree for the killing of ethan chapin, caylee gonzalves and maddie mogen in their shared home. >> the family wants to move along, they want to get a conviction and move past this.
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caylee and maddie receiving posthumous agrees last week. prosecutors have given coe bergers's defense team, thousands of pages of discovery including 10,000 pages of photos. >> police department search warrant, come to the door. >> the night kohberger was arrested in his parents' home, office uses in washington state served a search warrant at his apartment less than 20 minutes from the crime scene. >> show yourself, we have a search warrant for the building. >> reporter: there they recovered a wide variety of potential evidence including a chemical resistant black glove, multiple hair strands and possible animal you know why i stopped you. you ran the red light. >> i was stuck in the middle of the intersection. >> reporter: his white car seen driving here during a routine traffic stop was allegedly caught on camera near the crime scene on the night of the killings. his previous attorney said he believes he'll be exonerated.
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if this spring so far felt warmer to you than usual, you may be right. forecasters expect global temperatures to soar to record highs over the next five years. and these warmer temperatures could not only have dire consequences for the planet, but
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on your personal health. joining us now is dr. vin gupta, global health policy expert. doctor, tell us the direct impacts on human health with this kind of heat. >> ana, thank you for highlighting what is a vital story we should all be talking about. it is not just heat stroke. people think that high temperatures leads to heat strokes and need to find air conditioning. it is not just that. we know that excess heat can cause cardiovascular diseases, cardiovascular collapse, high blood pressure, leading to heart attacks and stroke. we also know and i don't think we talk enough about this that heat as detrimental effects to expectant moms. there is a clear correlation between exposure to heat in utero, to babies and preterm birth. very, very important and also i'll say very concerning information is that if you live near the equator, there are signs that excess exposure to long duration to heat leads to
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early aging. that's concerning here. i'll lastly say increases in temperature, clear risk factor for wildfires, wildfires increase your exposure to air pollution, we know air pollution is a big, big problem when it comes to have underlying lung disease. lots of impacts here. >> we're seeing all the pictures of the wildfires. there are wildfires happening in western canada as we speak right now. you mentioned air pollution. we also think of the record droughts we have been covering with higher temperatures. how do you see that impacting the human condition? >> you know, i worry about this. the u.n. is estimating, for all your viewers out there, facts that we just were numb to the numbers here, 5 billion people worldwide by 2050, middle of the century, will experience water insecurity. we're seeing that already in parts of the southwestern united states. that water droughts are going to be clear health impacts. we'll see that now and worsening
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in the future. air pollution, the sixth leading cause of death worldwide behind traditional risk factors like high blood pressure and smoking that got all the attention in public health. air pollution is an independent risk factor for death and disability. we need to be talking about it more. >> a study out of georgetown university finds that climate change could help spark the next pandemic. i mean, hello. can you explain how rising temperatures could cause that? >> i'm glad you brought that up, ana. what we're seeing here is an unnatural movement of animals that are reservoirs for animal viruses. things like coronavirus, as an example, or other tick born illnesses and what is happening here with climate change is our natural migration patterns, closer proximity to other mammals like humans and you're seeing that transmission become more and more common. this is a big concern here. we're seeing more mammal to mammal transmission. that's a high mortality rate. so climate change, because it is changing migration patterns,
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because transmission among mosquitos is happening for longer periods of time because the year is warmer, we're seeing more of these occurrences which worries us all. >> we only have 30 seconds, anything we can to do protect ourselves in the meantime? >> you know, for those living in the west coast united states, here in seattle, we're seeing a hazy sunrise here, due to fires from british columbia. make sure if you have underlying cardiopulmonary disease, heart disease, your regiment, your health is as optimized as possible. if you're an expectant mom, avoid air quality that is poor, make sure you're checking the air quality before you go out. there is ways to keep yourself safe, you have to be proactive. >> thank you so much, dr. vin gupta. appreciate that information. that's going to do it for us today. thank you for being with us. we're back tomorrow, same time, same place. right now, jose diaz-balart picks up our coverage. good morning, it is 11:00 a.m. eastern, 8:00 a.m. pacific. breaking news from the supreme court, we'll break down a major decision

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