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because transmission among mosquitos is happening for longer periods of time because the year is warmer, we're seeing more of these occurrences which worries us all. >> we only have 30 seconds, anything we can to do protect ourselves in the meantime? >> you know, for those living in the west coast united states, here in seattle, we're seeing a hazy sunrise here, due to fires from british columbia. make sure if you have underlying cardiopulmonary disease, heart disease, your regiment, your health is as optimized as possible. if you're an expectant mom, avoid air quality that is poor, make sure you're checking the air quality before you go out. there is ways to keep yourself safe, you have to be proactive. >> thank you so much, dr. vin gupta. appreciate that information. that's going to do it for us today. thank you for being with us. we're back tomorrow, same time, same place. right now, jose diaz-balart picks up our coverage. good morning, it is 11:00 a.m. eastern, 8:00 a.m. pacific. breaking news from the supreme court, we'll break down a major decision impacting social media
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companies. and we're exactly two weeks away from the day the u.s. is expected to run out of money to pay its debts. negotiations are under way in d.c. despite president biden being half a world away in japan. plus, new details about the man who authorities say is behind one of the biggest intelligence leaks in years. court documents are revealing the suspect may have been mishandling classified information months before the leak. new attacks in ukraine. with officials saying russia launched an unprecedented barrage of missiles across the country overnight. we'll talk to ukraine's former president about what appears to be a rise in russian assaults. and more crackdowns on lgbtq rights. texas on the verge of becoming the biggest state of the nation to ban gender transition treatment for children. we begin this very busy hour with breaking news from the nation's highest court. just in the last hour, the supreme court ruled the social
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media giant twitter is not liable for aiding and abetting terrorists. the case was brought by a grieving family of a man killed by isis affiliated terrorists in turkey in 2015. joining us now with more is nbc news senior legal correspondent laura jarrett. laura, good morning. what more do we know? and what are the implications of this decision? >> well, jose, the major tech companies in this country are breathing a major sigh of relief this morning. a huge ruling for them by a unanimous supreme court just a short time ago, ruling that these tech companies cannot be held liable for aiding and abetting international acts of terrorism. as you mentioned, a group of families here, two different sets of families actually sued the biggest tech companies, google, facebook, twitter, essentially saying that the tech companies had allowed isis propaganda to proliferate on their platforms that they knew this content was out there, and
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was essentially steering young men to this content using a sophisticated set of algorithms that we all take advantage of every day. the theory was that using those algorithms, they were targeting people and allowing this information to proliferate and essentially doing that was -- should be the hook for holding them liable. but the court said that was not enough. essentially saying that it wasn't going to reach the main law that has been used for the better part of 20 years. section 230, that main shield law it said we don't need to reach that issue because you don't meet the threshold issue under the antiterrorism statute. because you don't even meet that, we don't have to reach the section 230 issue. that 230 issue was the reason why everyone was so focused on this case, because as i said it has been used for so long and they were worried the court would cut it back or have something to say to pierce through the shield.
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the court didn't go that far. >> laura jarrett, thank you so very much. and now to the latest on the debt limit negotiations as president biden attends a global summit in japan with the deadline just two weeks away. negotiators for the white house and congressional republicans are working around the clock to reach a deal to avert an economic crisis that could potentially cause untold damage. and they're expected to work through the weekend. just over an hour and a half from now, vice president harris will hold the briefing to, quote, provide an update on preventing default. the debt ceiling crisis is top of mind for president biden as he mets with leaders from seven of the world's largest economies. he will head home immediately after the summit to focus on the talks, skipping planned stops in australia and papua new guinea. nbc news white house correspondent mike memoli is traveling with the president in hiroshima, japan. mike, what will the president be focusing on as he meets with g-7
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leaders? >> reporter: well, good friday morning to you, jose, from here in japan, where white house officials are emphasizing that president biden has a very full agenda with the g-7 when they kick off a working lunch in just about 12 hours here. at the top of the list is ukraine, the president going to be highlighting the degree to which he's been able to keep our allies in lockstep supporting ukraine as they deal with russia's invasion. we expect to hear new sanctions being announced by the g-7 leaders here and the prime minister of japan saying that there is expected to be some participation at this summit on sunday from the president of ukraine, volodymyr zelenskyy. also we expect to hear a lot about economic efforts led by the g-7 to counter china's growing influence. not just in this region, but throughout the world. they're talking about ways that they're all working to build more resilient supply chains. we know how disruptive it was, though covid related shutdowns in china. they're talking about debt relief and infrastructure support for the developing world.
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given the focus that is going to be placed on china and the summit, it was interesting, kristen welker asked john kirby from the national security council about whether it was actually a win for china that the president had to cut short this visit, including those trips to papua new guinea and to australia. here is how curb kirby responde >> you can't reschedule the debt ceiling looming deadline. that is a hard date and that's staring us in the face. so the president did the right thing. he can still come over to the g-7 and have these discussions, and still look after our credibility here by being here, but also look after our credibility and reputation overseas by dealing with the debt ceiling. >> reporter: now, we expect, of course, that so much of the concessions publicly will be about the agenda. privately the president will be asked by his counterparts what is the situation regarding that debt ceiling, can he offer any guarantees that the u.s. will avoid that default. jake sullivan, the national security adviser, saying the president will express his
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confidence that the .s. will avoid that default and getting regular briefings by his aides about the status of the negotiations happening back home. >> mike memoli in hiroshima where it is 12:06 a.m. i thank you very much. back here at home, new details are emerging about the massachusetts air national guardsman accused of carrying out one of the most significant intelligence leaks in years. federal prosecutors wrote in a court filing that jack teixeira's superiors reportedly warned him about his handling of classified information in the months before he was arrested. ken dilanian joins us with more. ken, good morning. so, they knew something was going on with him, but yet he kept doing it? >> it is pretty amazing, jose. these revelations are coming in a new detention memo by the department of justice, which is arguing to keep him behind bars awaiting trial and there is a hearing on that tomorrow and the judge is expected to decide it.
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what these new revelations show is that on at least three occasions teixeira was observed doing something suspicious with classified information. so troubling that it was documented in writing, but his bosses not only let him continue to work with classified material, they took no steps to investigate what he might be doing outside of work. and what he was doing, as we now know, was leaking secrets and expressing racist and extremist sentiments. so specifically september memo says he was seen taking notes on classified information, and then putting a note in his pocket. that was flagged. a month later ordered to, quote, cease and desist on any deep dives into classified information unrelated to his job. apparently he didn't heed that advise because in february of this year, another memo says he was seen accessing secrets not relating to his job. so all this raises questions about what the heck was happening at that base, two commanders have been suspended. and the base has been stripped of its intelligence function. and the larger question here is whether this was just an
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isolated incident of incompetence on one particular base, or a broader issue inside the military, which may not have a handle on the tens of thousands of people dealing with classified information. >> ken dilanian, thank you so very much. up next, ukrainian officials say they are making gains in one of the longest and bloodiest fights in the country. we'll talk to ukraine's former president, petro poroshenko, about whether it could be a turning point in the war. we're back in 60 seconds. 60 secs age is just a number, and mine's unlisted. try boost® high protein with 20 grams of protein for muscle health versus 16 grams in ensure® high protein. boost® high protein. now available in cinnabon® bakery-inspired flavor. learn more at boost.com/tv - you like that bone? i got a great price on it. - did you see my tail when that chewy box showed up? - oh, i saw it. - my tail goes bonkers for treats at great prices. sorry about the vase. - [announcer] save more on what they love
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they were able to shoot down 29 of the 30 cruise missiles russia launched today. and these are brand-new satellite images from maxar according to them. it shows a situation in and around the city of bakhmut where russian and ukrainian forces have been in a fierce fight for months now. joining us now, the former president of ukraine, petro poroshenko. mr. president, always appreciate your time. you just traveled to the front lines in the donetsk region. what did you find? >> yeah, i returned back early this morning. when i go, i see the russian missiles over kyiv. this is the efficiency of the work of our air defense because kyiv and i'm proud we launched air defense and we stopped the attack. we were right near bakhmut. i have a meeting with
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representative of the commander of the sixth brigade who take defense near bakhmut and i think bakhmut is a symbol, symbol of ukrainian resilience, symbol that our soldiers now make a miracle, but at the same time i will deliver the messages from our soldiers. just pray. more ammunition, and jet fighter. with old tactics including nato tactics, we learn all the tactics take into account jet fighter air dominance. and with this situation definitely it is different. but what putin promised, to take bakhmut within three days, and today is already ten months when
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ukrainian forces -- i was there many times since the beginning of the war, and small town, dozens of thousands of russian works on bakhmut and with absolutely no success. and i want to tell you yesterday i make a message that the offensive operation will start not within months or weeks or even days. we speaking now about hours. and when we launch this offensive operation, the plane is graded for that. we have not enough weapons, weapons is never enough, but we have sufficient amount of ammunition to launch the offensive operation. and would definitely be lower -- >> and mr. president, the uk and
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dutch prime ministers said they agreed to work on international coalition to procure f-16 fighter jets for ukraine. how much of a game changer would this mean for ukraine? >> every single step for the coalition is a game changer. you remember in your -- on your channel i speak that the tank coalition and carrier coalition would be a game changer. then i said artillery coalition again also including the 347 is a game changer. then i have long range missile, which i am proud that the demonstrating the leadership and supply for us storm shadow and we already effectively used this long version missile to destroy more than 250 russians in -- and
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within that coalition, the jet fighter coalition, this is the final game changer would give us an opportunity to win this war, to save the lives of ukraine and soldiers. and my recommendation within the creating of the jet fighter coalition, please, first, don't be afraid of putin and his team. his regime. second, don't be afraid the victory of ukraine over the russians. and, third, please, don't be afraid of ukrainian membership in nato. and with this situation, please, no security guarantee outside of nato. this is simply not working. we should be decisive, especially in this moment before
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the launching offensive operation of ukraine. >> former ukrainian president petro poroshenko, thank you for being with us. it is always a pleasure to see you. thank you. >> thank you. it is a pleasure. up next, the house takes a new step to expel george santos who is facing a slew of federal charges. we'll play for you his reaction. montana enacts a total ban on tiktok. could it be a sign of things to come around the country? gn of t come around the country? it's pr. i kinda just want things the way i want them. (woman) i want a network that won't let me down. even up here! (woman #2) with an unlimited plan that's truly right for me. (woman #3) with verizon's new myplan, i get exactly what i want. and only pay for what i need. (man #2) now i'm in charge... ...of my plan. (vo) introducing myplan from verizon, the first and only plan where you choose what goes in, from apple music to disney bundle. so you get exactly what you want and only pay for what you need. and it all starts at just $30. on the network you want. because it's your verizon.
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20 past the hour. now to the humanitarian crisis where an 8-year-old girl has died while in u.s. border patrol custody. authorities say the girl suffered a medical emergency while being held at a detention facility in texas next to the mexico border with her family. she was brought to a local hospital, where she was pronounced dead. this incident occurs almost a week after the lifting of title 42 and days after a 17-year-old migrant from honduras died in a facility in florida run by the department of health and human services. and now to capitol hill, where embattled congressman george santos avoided expulsion for now. his republican house colleagues voted against the measure to unseat him in light of his recent indictments that referring the matter to the ethics committee. santos has been under investigation by that committee since march.
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he's denied any wrongdoing and said this to reporters yesterday. >> i look forward to doing that. i look forward to seeing the process play out. and if the ethics committee finds a reason to remove me, that is the process. i look forward to continuing to defend myself. again, innocent until proven guilty. that is a right we all have. >> joining us now with more is nbc news capitol hill correspondent ali vitali. good morning. where do things go from here? >> reporter: jose, i'm glad you say that this was santos staying in congress for now, because this is really a way to slow walk him to the exit while the doj investigation continues to play out. we saw, of course, democrats try to mount an expulsion vote yesterday and instead of being able to do that because it would require two-thirds of the majority of the body here, instead we saw republicans continue to allow this to work through the ethics committee. this has been speaker mccarthy's preference the entire time. in part because he still needs santos here for political
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reasons because of the tight margins you and i always end up talking about when we talk about george santos and why republicans are tolerating him up here on capitol hill. nevertheless, what we're seeing out of the ethics committee after they have been referred this expulsion vote is the idea that they're not stepping aside despite the fact that there are criminal investigations going on through the department of justice. and, in fact, in just the last few minutes, we heard from the top republican on the ethics committee explaining why they're not ceding that ground because to them, this is not something where he's being probed criminally, he's also got ethic probes going into him and that's why the ethics committee feels that they can operate on a dual track here. let the department of justice continue to do their work on the criminal front, those 13 indictment counts we know santos pled not guilty to, but also looking in on the ethics front to see if they in congress have any say about this and what they ultimately say about it. i will say, jose, ethics committee referrals tend to just go into darkness, so i don't
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imagine that we're going to hear a ton about this until there is something to hear about this. committee members tend to be pretty tight lipped and i don't expect this situation to be any different. but there is a real hankering from some republicans to see this play out to the ultimate conclusion where santos is no longer in congress, even as you saw him there on the house steps yesterday continuing to be defiant in the face of all these allegations and all of these scandals that he's just going to keep arguing his case. >> ali vitali on capitol hill, thank you so much. we turn now to the latest on wall street, where retail giant walmart is reporting a boost this morning. the company says sales jumped almost 8% in the first quarter, pointing to strength in its grocery business that helped offset losses in other areas like clothes and electronics. joining us now with more, cnbc's kristina partsinevelos. great to see you. what does this tell us about how people are spending their money? >> this is the largest retailer in america, so we do pay attention. and it shows that more shoppers are gravitating to value
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oriented stores. that's because they're becoming more price conscious about spending. so management in the report even pointed out higher income households, younger customers are shopping at walmart, because they're still looking for deals as we deal with high inflation. and many of them are actually spending online. e-commerce sales surged 27% from a year ago. so positive for walmart because more people are shopping there, but just yesterday we saw with home depot and target that people aren't spending as much on do it yourself projects and more expensive products that are at target, so, what we're seeing is a shift toward more budget conscious projects and spending patterns. >> treasury secretary janet yellen is set to meet with bank leaders today. what do we know? >> this is the annual bank policy institute meeting, clearly doesn't sound very exciting, normally doesn't make the news. this year janet yellen will be meeting with ceos of several banks to focus on the debt ceiling which we know needs to
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be raised before june 1st or the u.s. government won't be able to pay some of its bills. and then the second topic that they're likely to bring up quite a bit is the banking crisis and what we saw with a lot of the regional banks that went under, and the government's response to all of that. that's going to be the debate. just to point out, markets are positive right now because they're optimistic that the government will be able to fix or raise the debt ceiling and so that's why we're seeing just a sea of green right now across all three indices. >> indeed. kristina partsinevelos, thank you for being with us. >> thank you. up next, new reporting on when florida governor ron desantis could enter the race for president. this as he signs a slew of bills cracking down on lgbtq rights and a whole lot more. you're watching "jose diaz-balart reports" on msnbc. you're watching "jose diaz-balart reports" on msnbc. ride it out with the tradeoffs of treating? or push through the pain and symptoms? with ubrelvy, there's another option. one dose works fast to eliminate migraine pain. treat it anytime, anywhere without worrying where you are
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30 past the hour. we have breaking news. nbc news has just learned the florida governor ron desantis will enter the 2024 presidential election next week. sources familiar with the plans say desantis will file paper work at the fec next week, formally entering the presidential contest. overnight, texas took one step closer to becoming the largest state to ban transition medical care for minors after the republican-led state legislature passed a bill yesterday now headed to governor greg abbott for his signature. meanwhile, in florida, governor
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desantis signed four bills into law including one that would ban transition-related care for people under the age of 18. joining us now is joe yucava and congressman david jolly. can you break down what the laws were? >> sure there are four laws that the governor signed. first is sv 254, which is the measure that will ban gender affirming care for minors in the state and considered one of the most extreme in the country because it would allow the state to take custody of kids whose parents are providing them with gender-affirming care like hormone therapy. there is also another bill that will expand what advocates have called the don't say gay bill. and that prohibits instruction on sexual orientation and gender identity in kindergarten through third grades. and this new law will expand that through eighth grade and will also limit reproductive health education in sixth
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through 12th grades. and there are two other bills. an adult live performance bill that will restrict drag performances. >> so, david, and, you know, all this is happening as we're getting this reporting that he's going to be entering the governor of florida the presidential race starting next week. politically, i mean, this is just one of a series of pieces of legislation that the governor is behind. this was a very busy legislative session for the governor in florida. desantis supported legislation on immigration reform, real estate investments, social issues, et cetera. is this his blueprint for his run next week? and is that something that will play nationally? >> yeah, it does appear to be
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his blueprint, jose. and he has made no -- he's not been timid about launching the culture wars. the problem is the culture war has two sides. he is living within a republican primary constituency who sees these culture wars as advancing some basic tenets of christian white nationalism. his war on the lgbtq community, his war on migrants, his elimination of minority districts, those do feed a certain constituency, but the question is do voters see it that way or is the antitrans bill he signed yesterday a removal of parental rights over their own child's healthcare decisions. and what we have seen is as republicans continue to fight the culture wars for their viability in a republican presidential primary, it does reduce their viability in a general election. the lessons of 18 and 20 and 22 have been that republicans remain out of touch with general election voters. desantis has chosen his path.
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he still remains almost 40 points nationally behind donald trump. and you see donald trump wrestling with some of the similar issues, but we're about to see two juggernauts, ron desantis has built an impressive campaign apparatus and infrastructure, we're about to see two juggernauts go head to head in the gop primary. >> does the fact he has this blueprint behind him and i'm thinking just for the primaries, is this something that would help him get through the other juggernaut? >> look, he has as strong a case as donald trump about conservative victories. we haven't talked about his victories on guns and education and other conservative issues. ron desantis goes in with conservative bona fides against president trump and he might say trump is not conservative enough. but the delicate strategy is where this is going to happen. ron desantis, his only hope, his strategy, where we sit today is a delegate slog, to pick up enough delegates in the early states to stop trump's momentum.
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if he can't do that in the early states, it is going to be a short run for the florida governor. >> so, jo, in texas what did the state legislature pass there? >> the state legislature sent a bill to the governor that is similar to florida's, it would ban gender affirming care for minors in the state and this is a year -- part of a years long effort in this state to restrict this care. it comes after the department of families investigated last year and it looks like the governor will sign that into law. >> jo and david, thank you both for being with us this morning. i want to turn to someone who will be directly impacted. joining us is rachel who has a 13-year-old transgender daughter who is receiving gender-affirming care in texas. we should note that rachel requested we only use her first name. rachel, i thank you for being with us this morning. how is this affecting you and
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your family directly? >> well, my daughter will not have access to the healthcare that we know is life saving, medically necessary, best practice care. our government has decided that they know better than the american medical establishments, than every major medical association, than parents, and physicians who specialize in this care in concert with our daughter. we know what is best for our kid and we don't expect our legislators to understand this. but they decided that they need to interfere in our personal lives to use our child as a political pawn. and it is really been infuriating to say the least, especially in the hypocrisy of all of the parental rights that are being proposed by the far right, but it is only very specific parental rights because we are obviously not afforded the same rights. >> so what parental rights do
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you think -- are there any limits to parental rights and i'm wondering because you do -- there are inconsistencies, right, in what people define as parental rights. >> well, i mean, i think it is fair to say that parents should have the ability to access best practice medical care for their children. especially when we have one physician in our legislature who decided that he understands this science that he's referring to better than this huge body of scientific evidence that shows that this is the best practice medical care when we have access to physicians who specialize in this, we have our daughter transitioned socially when she was 5 years old. the vast majority of transition is social. it is allow children to be able to show the rest of the world who they are on the inside, and for my daughter, that meant growing her hair out, wearing
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dresses, and changing her name. so, there is really not any kind of medical intervention until puberty and, you know, puberty blockers are totally reversible. these are used for a variety of different healthcare reasons, not just for transgender youth and that's how we know this is a deeply discriminatory bill, because it is only banning the same healthcare that is accessible to nontransgender children and only targets trans kids. >> i just wonder, explain to me how that decision, a family decision, right, is taken. because you talk about your child from very early age, you know, was defining herself in many ways. how does that family decision get taken? >> well, i mean, the thing is i don't expect somebody who doesn't have a transgender child to know what this process is
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like, because it is not easy. it was something that my husband and i had to really process, my husband really struggled with it. he thought it was a reflection on his masculinity, his fatherhood, showing up for his daughter and it was not until she really hit a breaking point when she was 5 years old saying she could not go on anymore with the world thinking that she was a boy. and so, i often say that it was the rest of us transitioning. she knew exactly who she was from the day she was born, as long as she could talk and we didn't know who she was, we made an assumption about who she was then and we have been able to, you know, support her and she's an awesome amazing happy kid and that's what these legislators don't want the general public to know. they don't want people to realize that when kids are supported and loved and given access to the healthcare they need, then they can thrive.
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and our kids deserve to have the same childhood that their classmates or neighbors or their friends have. and this isn't disruptive just for our transgender daughter. we have two other kids and they're terrified that the department of family protective services is going to split up our family after the directive came out from the governor last year and we're watching what is happening in florida and here in texas. our family is explicitly using a political pawn by extremist legislators and i don't know -- i don't know what else to tell my children except we will get through this together because everybody is -- well, okay, i do end want to say that, a lot of people are fleeing the state, a lot more kids cannot leave the state. and they deserve to have the access to healthcare that, you know, everybody else has. and i wish our legislature would focus on providing good healthcare, basic healthcare for all the kids in the state that don't have access to just basic healthcare rather than target
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our already marginalized population of transgender youth. >> rachel, thank you very much for being with us. appreciate your time. >> thank you. thanks for having me. up next, the clock is up for tiktok. montana becomes the first state to ban that popular app. plus, congressman jim himes joins us about the debt ceiling negotiations. you're watching "jose diaz-balart reports" on msnbc ns you're watch "jose diaz-balart reports" on msnb let's tighten that. (fabric ripping) ooh. - wait, wh- wh- what was that? - huh? what, that? no, don't worry about that. here we go. - asking the right question can greatly impact your future. - are, are you qualified to do this? - what? - especially when it comes to your finances. - yeehaw! - do you have a question? - are you a certified financial planner™? - yes. i'm a cfp® professional. - cfp® professionals are committed to acting in your best interest. that's why it's gotta be a cfp®. find your cfp® professional at letsmakeaplan.org. ♪ma ma ma ma♪ [clears throut]
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the fbi and other u.s. officials that tiktok could be used by the chinese government to access sensitive information. nbc's jacob ward joins us this morning. good to see you. what is in this new ban? >> well, jose, at this point there are more questions than answers are. we know that the ban in theory puts the onus on tiktok to basically take steps, whatever steps it can and those steps are not specified to make the app inaccessible to montanas. how exactly that would be implemented, it is not clear. montana as you know has for instance several autonomous tribal nations inside the state borders, does it apply in those places? is it going to simply be as easy as driving across state lines to post a video of the vacation that you had in montana? those things are not clear. what we do know at this hour is that governor gianforte calls this the most decisive action of
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any state, and tiktok is already responding specifically telling montanans they can continue to post and they will be working through this. meanwhile, the aclu says that this is not okay, that this is in fact a -- because it is not a specific national security ban, that it violates first amendment protections, and so it seems at this point, jose, like we're probably on track for some sort of court showdown. and, of course this is the worst nightmare of many big tech players who for years have been asking for federal regulation in part to avoid something like this in which a policy, one that changes from state to state, makes operating across the united states more complicated than they want it to be. a lot of questions swirling around this ban at this hour, jose. >> jake ward, thank you so very much. now back to capitol hill this morning, where negotiators for the white house and house republicans will be working through the night and into the weekend to try and reach a deal to prevent the u.s. from
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defaulting on its debt. some democratic lawmakers are circulating a letter urging president biden to bypass congress and invoke the 14th amendment to avoid a default. section 4 of that amendment says the validity of the public debt of the united states shall not be questioned. the president has said he has been considering using the 14th amendment, but concluded it would not solve the current stalemate. with us to talk more about this, connecticut congressman jim himes, top democrat on the house intelligence committee. thank you for being with us this morning. what are your biggest concerns about the situation as it is now unfolding? >> well, jose, thanks for having me. the concern is obvious, right? there is a feeling of optimism in this building right now that there may be a deal. i keep hearing that parties may be close and, look, if that happens, good. but, of course, if it doesn't happen, and we're contemplating something the country has never done before, a default, and
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contemplating frankly, you know, bizarre alternatives, the minting of a trillion dollar coin, which every time this happens, i hear about. the use of the 14th amendment which would be weeks and months and possibly years of litigation. so, look, i hope a deal gets done and the debt ceiling gets raised, but what really needs to happen is this absurd and dangerous debt ceiling needs to be removed from the law. i've now been through this five or six times in my congressional career. and no american thinks we should pass legislation not because we passed something in the senate and the house and get the president to sign it, but if we don't pass it, we'll blow up the global economy. that's not the way it is supposed to work. fingers crossed it gets whether we want to go through this every year in future. >> yeah. that's a great -- there's so many serious issues involved with this. on a lighter one, this trillion dollar coin thing. tell me a little about that. how do we get one?
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>> the idea is -- it's a silly idea. the idea is that under the law, the treasury can mint money without statutory authorization. the idea is that the treasury mints a coin worth $1 trillion and somehow that is secure and bills are paid from that million dollar coin. answering that question makes me feel embarrassed. the most powerful country in the world, the best country in the world should not be having this absurd conversation. >> great point. >> we should get rid of the debt ceiling. by the way, the global economy is at risk here. what do you think in beijing right now, what are they doing? they are watching us risk everything for a purely self-manufactured crisis. there's all kinds of reasons why -- let's get this done. let's not crash the global economy. then let's stop having this conversation, which is nothing but detrimental inside the united states and outside the united states. >> congressman, i thank you for that. on another issue, federal
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prosecutors say the air national guardsman accused of carrying out one of the most significant intelligence leaks in years was repeatedly warned by his superiors about handling of classified information. what do you make of these new revelations? >> you know, it's concerning. right? it's particularly -- it's one of many very concerning things. i keep saying that as we look at the situation, we have a lot of work to do on the technology side. how in the world was this individual able to print out or even photograph whatever it was, this material that was so sensitive? there's culture in management. it appears that if the prosecutors are to be believed that this airman was reprimanded. when you are talking about stuff that can get people killed, highly classified information, there are no second chances. right? when you do something wrong, you get removed from access to classified information for some period of time. clearly, we have a lot of work to do on culture, on management and on technology. we're never going to solve this problem entirely.
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but we can do a lot better. >> congressman himes, i can't thank you enough for being with us. appreciate your time. >> thank you. up next, tensions are high in israel right now ahead of a massive annual march in jerusalem featuring jewish nationalists. we are live with how this has the potential to touch off fresh tensions. flooding in northern italy. it's being called catastrophic. look at these pictures. you are watching "jose diaz-balart reports" on msmbc. '. (woman #3) with verizon's new myplan, i get exactly what i want. and only pay for what i need. (man #2) now i'm in charge... ...of my plan. (vo) introducing myplan from verizon, the first and only plan where you choose what goes in, from apple music to disney bundle. so you get exactly what you want and only pay for what you need. and it all starts at just $30. on the network you want. because it's your verizon. a bend with a bump in your erection
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56 past the hour. check what's happening beyond our borders. extreme flooding in northern italy killing at least eight people and forced 5,000 people to evacuate, closing schools and roads. some of the worst hit area have seen over a foot and a half of rain. local officials saying that rainfall this catastrophic has never before been registered.
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today is israel's annual flag march that marks the capture of east jerusalem in the 1967 war. thousands much israelis are marching through the old city, as tensions run high. raf sanchez joins us now from jerusalem. raf, what's happening there now? >> reporter: we are standing outside the damascus gate of jerusalem's old city. as you can see behind me, thousands and thousands of israelis streaming into the gate. they are making their way through the muslim border of the old city and eventually to the western wall. jose, in the last couple of minutes, a far-right member of the israeli cabinet, who is in charge of the police, is here. he is joining the crowd. for the israelis here, this is a day of celebration. they are commemorating, as you said, their victory in the 1967 war when israel took full control of the city of jerusalem. for many palestinians, especially those who live in the old city, this is a day of
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intimidation and fear. we spoke to palestinian shop owners inside the old city earlier who have been forced to close their businesses because they are afraid that these marchers may ransack their shops as they come by. this is a day that has seen violence in the past. one of the real concerns for israeli authorities is that what starts here in jerusalem could spread. two years ago, hamas fired rockets from gaza in response to today's march. today has largely gone peacefully. we will see what comes in the coming hours. >> raf sanchez in jerusalem, thank you very much. before we go, astonishing news from columbia. four children have been found alive more than two weeks after the plane they were traveling in crashed into a thick jungle. it's in the central part of the country. the president says the children are 13, 9 and 4 years old. another child was 11 months old.
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they were rescued by the mim -- military. three adults died. they believe the children survived the impact and set off into the rain forest to find help, eating fruit and building shelters with sticks along the way. incredible story. that wraps up the hour for me. i'm jose diaz-balart. reach me on twitter and instagram. watch highlights from today's show online. thank you for the privilege of your time. andrea mitchell picks up with more news right now. right now on "andrea mitchell reports," president biden in hiroshima. meeting with japan's prime minister as g7 leaders gather with a big focus on the war in ukraine. >> we stand up for the shared values, including supporting the great people of ukraine as they defend their sovereign territory and holding russia

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