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inventory. plus, the future of the most commonly used abortion method in the u.s. remains up in the air. inside the latest legal developments as federal judges could issue a ruling over access to the pill, mifepristone, at any moment. and flooding the streets, thousands of israelis marching through jerusalem's old city in annual parade that raises tensions in a divided city. we'll have a live report on the ground. the fbi revoked security clearances of three agents who took part in the insurrection on january 6th or expressed views that raised serious questions about their allegiance to the u.s. hear what two of them had to say while testifying on the hill today. our nbc news reporters are following all of the latest developments. we begin with that testimony on capitol hill from those two fbi agents who claim the government is being weaponized against conservatives. ryan nobles, you're following the story for us, what did we

hear today? >> reporter: well, we heard a long list of accusations from this group of former fbi agents who the republican members of the committee describe as whistleblowers. they suggest that the fbi used its power to go after conservative groups, pro life groups, and other groups. and that it was against the agency's overall mission. listen to what one of these fbi agents told the panel this morning. >> despite our oath to uphold the constitution, too many in the fbi aren't willing to sacrifice for the hard right over the easy wrong. they see what becomes of whistleblowers, how the fbi destroys their careers, suspends them under false pretenses, takes their security clearances and pay with no true options for recourse or remedy. >> reporter: and to your point, chris, the fbi is pushing back on some of this testimony. they did send a letter to the committee chairman, jim jordan, outlining their concerns with at least some of the group of these whistleblowers and pointing out

specifically that at least two of them had their security clearances removed for a number of different reasons, including whether or not they were loyal to the united states. this is something democrats are pushing back on, saying that their testimony isn't necessarily accurate, that it should be taken with a grain of salt. but this is one of the big kind of foundational, you know, pieces of evidence, if you will, that the weaponization committee is using to show that the federal government is being used not for pure purposes but instead for political reason, chris. >> ryan, i understand you've gotten new information just in the past couple of minutes about the senator who had been out for a while because of health problems? >> reporter: yeah, that's right. senator dianne feinstein of california who has been under a pretty intense spotlight since she last left the senate in early february after she was suffering from a bad case of shingles, it left her out of senate business for several months because the complications

from shingles turned out to be much more difficult than anyone had previously realized, and "the new york times" initially reported nbc news has now been able to confirm that in addition to the shingles, she also came down with a case of encephalitis, which is often a complication that comes from shingles, and that can often lead to different issues like memory loss and other symptoms. she was also dealing with a partial pralization of her face that many of us saw in person when she returned to capitol hill, that's a complication from shingles. feinstein has received some calls from democratic members in california to step down from her post. there are many that are concerned she is not up to the day-to-day job of being a united states senator, but, chris, she is back now. she is casting votes. there have been a number of those judicial nominations that were held up in the committee that she serves on because she wasn't able to vote. they have been able to move some of those through. and she is here today, and her staff say that she will continue

to work and stay on the job despite these growing concerns about her health. >> ryan nobles, thank you for that breaking news. appreciate it. now to the tense security situation in jerusalem where thousands of israelis are marching in an annual parade that many palestinians consider a provocative display of dominance. nbc's raf sanchez is there now. what are you seeing, raf? >> so, chris, we're outside the damascus gate of jerusalem's old city. you can see it's quiet now, but over the course of the day, tens of thousands of israeli marchers have gone through the gate, through the muslim corridor of jerusalem's old city, making their way to the western wall. for these marchers, today is a day of celebration, they are commemorating israel's victory in the 1967 war which left israel in complete control of jerusalem. but as you said, for many palestinians, today is a day of intimidation and fear, and we spoke to a lot of business owners in the muslim quarter, the old city, who were forced to

close their shops today because they were afraid these marchers were going to vandalize their businesses as they passed through. now, we should say, today did go largely peacefully, but amid this sea of blue and white, israeli national flags, there were these black and gold flags from an extremist group known as the lavahava, and there was a far right cabinet minister from the israeli government who joins this march today. he's a man who has previous convictions for inciting racial hatred, for supporting a terrorist group. chris, he is now the minister in charge of israel's national police. the police deployed about 3,000 people, officers, over the course of the day, they say, from their perspective, this was largely a successful day. they made a number of arrests yesterday, both israelis and palestinians, they say, who they believe were preparing to cause trouble but for the most part, a

smooth day. >> thank you for that. yamiche alcindor has been following this for us. what more do we know about this court hearing in louisiana, and what happens next? >> well, the three judges on the fifth circuit court of appeal who is heard this case yesterday each have a history of supporting restrictions on abortion, and were nominated by republican presidents. they had several heated exchanges with lawyers for the doj over whether this widely used abortion pill, mifepristone, should remain available. an attorney for the doj started off by saying the district court's order to pull the drug off the market was unjustified, and an unprecedented attack on scientific expertise. that order is not in place right now but the judges took real issue with that language, and one judge said to the doj lawyer, quote, do you think it is appropriate to attack the court. but the doj did not back down, and argued that taking this abortion medication off the market and undoing approvals by

the fda would cause great harm to women. the judges also questioned whether the fda had done its due diligence before it made changes in recent years that made this abortion pill more accessible. meanwhile, there isn't a clear deadline, we should say for the appeals court, so these judges can rule whenever they want to. this is also important, in the short-term, access to the pills remains right now in place no matter what the appeals court decides because the supreme court issued a stay keeping access to the pill in place until it rules. it's widely expected this case will end up in the supreme court, where the ultimate decision is made and the only way this pill would really be in jeopardy is if the doj loses in the appeals court and the supreme court decides it will not hear the appeal or the justices rule in favor of antiabortion activists. >> yamiche alcindor, thank you so much for that. there are new numbers on home sales from the national association of realtors today that show the largest annual

drop in prices in more than a decade. cnbc's diana olick is here. what's going on and where is it happening? where is it hitting the hardest? >> home sales are slowing down for several reasons but demand isn't actually one of them. there's plenty of demand out there, very little supply, especially at the lower, more affordable end of the market. sales were down in april at all price points but they were down steepest for homes priced over half a million dollars. the supply of homes for sale did improve slightly because there are affordable homes on the market. new listings have actually been down around 20% compared with a year ago. then you've got mortgage rates, more than doubled from record lows over the past year and a half, and while they eased up a little bit in the beginning of the year, in march, when these april deals were inked, they were back up near highs from before. you're seeing the lot of differences now when it comes to what people can afford, and what they can't. what you said about home prices, one note on that, the realtor's

report a median home price, and that is, you know, the price of what sold below, and what sold above. they show the prices down. interestingly, prices are rising after falling since last summer, and that's because mortgage rates cooled off a little, and then they went up again. so prices are rising differently in different reasons. the realtors reported prices were higher in the northeast and midwest, the midwest being the most affordable region, there's plenty of competition there. prices fell in the south and west where prices had been the most. really it depends on where you are, and i'll tell you, we were at two different open houses in las vegas last weekend, a fixer up in the $300,000 range and a move-in ready home, the fixer upper had a buyer traffic and an offer by monday. the pricier home, nobody showed up, chris. >> wow, diana olick, that's very telling, thank you so much. some devastating news out of ukraine with reports that among

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capture the reality for ukrainian civilians, enduring russian missile and drone attacks on a near daily basis. today, russia announced the 9th round of aerial attacks on the ukrainian capital this month alone. a series of strikes, a sitting military official describes as unprecedented in its power, intensity, and variety. and in kherson, russian shelling killed a 5-year-old ukrainian boy yesterday. that's according to president zelenskyy. nbc's molly hunter is reporting from kyiv. molly, what was the impact of this massive new aerial blitz? >> reporter: chris, good to be with you. that's right. we have had this second this week. overnight at 5:00 a.m., i'm in the capital of kyiv, we heard explosions, interceptions, ukraine's air defenses working and taking russian missiles out of the sky. according to the ukrainian air force, they announced the number of missiles, 30 russian missiles flew over the entire country. they say, and this is according

to the ukrainian air force, they downed 29 of them. chris, two things are happening that is different. russia is intensifying its aerial blitzes. as you mentioned, the small gains that the ukrainian forces are making in bakhmut. that is the eastern town where we have seen the fiercest fighting in the last couple of months. it is the front line, and what ukrainian forces have said this week, chris, they have made their biggest battlefield advances in the last couple of months, in the last couple of days. minutes ago, i'm just looking down, we got an update from ukraine's deputy defense minister who said today russia put many more reserves in bakhmut on the front line there. she says ukraine currently controls the southwestern part of bakhmut, and in some areas, they have advanced troops about 500 meters. that doesn't sound much, but they heard fighting block by block or at least as you've seen in the satellite photos, what remains. i have one piece of news, chris, that we have just learned. the japanese prime minister speaking to japanese journalists in a press conference this

afternoon has confirmed that ukrainian president zelenskyy will be joining a special meeting on ukraine at the g7 on the morning of may 21st. we have not gotten this confirmation from the ukrainians, we have certainly asked, but this would be a very big, very important trip, of course, at a time when the western air defenses, like the u.s. made patriot missile system, air defense system is so critical to this country. >> molly hunter, thank you for that. there are lots of discussions about the ukrainian battlefield. they're a m topic at the g7 in japan where president biden arrived today. it follows president zelenskyy's three-day visit to european allies who promised to send arsenals of missiles, tanks and drones, ahead of a long anticipated counter offensive. nbc news white house correspondent mike memoli is traveling with president biden. i know the national security adviser jake sullivan talked about this today, how this is going to be a focus, how important it is. what exactly do we know, mike, about what biden wants to

accomplish in terms of ukraine from these g7 allies. well, chris, throughout this entire war in ukraine, we have seen the united states trying to play a role in keeping our allies united. so it's been very clear what president zelenskyy wants from us. he wants more defensive weaponry. he wants more potential air power in the form of fighter jets. he wants more money in the form of humanitarian assistance and direct government aid, and the u.s. has played a role in balancing those requests are other considerations, what are the u.s. allies willing to do collectively. the president thinks there's power in acting together, and the g7 summit is an important forum for that. we expect the leaders to potentially announce measures to enforce the sanctions that are already in place. there has been concern that russia has been able to evade some of those sanctions. that's going to be a big focus of discussion here. the other thing that the united states is balancing is how to act collectively without further provoking russia. of course we have seen russia

acting rather provocatively by moving potentially some tactical nuclear weapons to theater, and that threat of nuclear weaponry is brought into stark display as the g7 summit kicks off in a few hours here. the prime minister kishida, is hosting the summit, honoring those who lost their lives in the first atomic bomb blast in 1945, which precipitated the end of world war ii. it's that concern on the part of the japanese, yes, this is a threat to the safety of europe, but also to the threat of east asia. as we look at the provocative nature of north korea's increased missile testing, as well as china's movements potentially as it relates to taiwan. these security concerns are at the forefront of what president biden hopes to achieve here, and zelenskyy's participation at the summit itself speaks to the efforts to speak with one voice here in response to russia. >> mike memoli, thank you for that. rescue teams are searching

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every single administration going back to president ronald reagan has mismanaged classified documents. that's the new revelation from the national archives to the house intelligence committee. nbc's ali vitali is on capitol hill for us. we knew about president trump, vice president pence, and then president biden. this goes far beyond the scale of what's been publicly reported. what else did the archives say and do they have suggestions about what needs to be done about it? >> reporter: not exactly reassuring, especially when you

hear this has been going on since the reagan administration, decades of what one person called systemic mismanagement of classified documents being found not just at the homes or libraries of former presidents and vice presidents, but also from former members of congress themselves. that's because you know what the paper flow tends to look like when folks leave office. they give their documents to libraries. libraries go through them and what these people told congress is that they've had more than 80 instances of calls from archivists as they have been going through paperwork documents, other things from former elected time in office, finding them at libraries and then having to have the national archives go back and retrieve them. i mean, think even of the revolving door of people who go from congress into administrations, back maybe to private or public life. all of these moments, then, end up with documents where maybe they shouldn't be. it's a reminder, i think, that as we look at the situations for trump, for biden, for pence, that they're not isolated to just those, though they are

certainly the most high profile that we've seen recently. but it's also a reminder of the fact as these folks testified to congress that there's not really document tracking devices in place right now. it's not like you take one document out and then it shows when you check it back in. but that is something that's lacking right now, and as we see the hill and other institutions grapple with how to avoid this kind of stuff going forward, that's got to be one of the things that you imagine they're thinking about from a policy perspective is how do we shore up this system so that documents stop ending up where they're not supposed to end up. >> ali vitali, thank you for that. and speaking of papers, a new memo is offering a glimpse into president joe biden's reelection strategy from a team feeling bullish about their chances at victory. in the memo released today, the biden reelection team describes a number of viable pathways to victory in 2024 and they include building on gains with rural and white working class voters, as

well as expanding the investment map in states like florida. the biden team is in a markedly strong position a year and a half out from election day, and a brand new poll offers further reason for confidence with biden leading donald trump by 7 points. nbc's allie raffa joins us from the white house, and robert gibbs is a former white house press secretary under president obama as well as an msnbc political analyst. so what more did we learn about this new campaign strategy? >> reporter: we've already seen president biden start this so-called rose garden strategy, using the power of his platform as president to campaign as a candidate, and in this memo by biden's new campaign manager, julie chavez rodriguez who just started her job in earnest this week, she really lays out what we expect to be the plan moving forward, setting the tone for how this campaign will continue. she talks about shoring up a blue wall by making early investments in states that president biden won in 2020, states like arizona, nevada,

michigan, pennsylvania, and then she talks about making more investments in some other, like, red or purple states, states like south carolina, florida, which is obviously the home state of right now, the top gop candidates, former president trump and a soon to be candidate, governor ron desantis. she also talks about this more grass roots strategy that they'll be implementing to reach more women voters, more young voters, black, latino, asian-american voters who may have sat out at the polls in the midterm elections. so they're trying to expand their voter outreach to get those people back out to vote in 2024. and we've talked about the expectations here that we don't expect president biden to start really campaigning in earnest until the general election, and in the meantime, we expect him to continue doing really what he's doing, going to these battleground states to tout what he sees as his legislative accomplishments that he was able to achieve during his first two

years in office. chavez rodriguez saying in this memo those assets give the campaign quote momentum starting off. but, chris, only time will tell whether that strategy is enough to win again. as we've seen in these polls, it's looking more like this is going to be a rematch between president biden and former president trump. we have seen in poll after poll, many democratic voters are very vocally concerned about the president's age, and that's just something we know that the campaign can't ignore. that strategy moving forward is something very interesting we'll be watching. >> robert, the biden team, let's talk about the map first. they're planning to defend the blue wall, michigan, pennsylvania, wisconsin, also invest in north carolina and florida. as you look at this, do they have the map right? >> they absolutely do, chris. and i'm not sure this one is that far afield, largely because the map from 2020 is almost clearly the map in 2024.

it's a very very small number of swing states. they're going to end up spending both campaigns, whoever the republican nominee is, and president biden will spend a huge amount of money in eight or nine different states. that campaign is going to look very different in those places than it does quite frankly everywhere else. i think it's interesting, you know, the inclusion of north carolina and florida is important, just a couple of nights ago, there was some big races that turned, for democrats in florida, in a place that quite frankly hasn't been all that hospitable, i think one thing we learned from 2022 is every rule that we thought we brought to the campaign and brought to that election might not hold true for the following election, and i certainly think that the reason abortion bans in both florida and north carolina are going to change the political calculus in both of those states. >> enough to swing them, though? it doesn't seem that long ago, robert, that there were an awful lot of smart people on this

network that i was talking to saying florida is done, florida is a red state. move on. >> i think florida certainly starts out as probably the favorite for a republican nominee. obviously some of that will depend on who the nominee is. some of that will depend on really what happens in the next year and a half, but i don't think you can discount some of the races that happened, again, just a couple of nights ago for democrats. isn't it a bigger lift, undoubtedly? i think north carolina is much more akin to and closer to a swing state. you know, look, i'll tell you, i've seen a lot of polling recently that shows what governor desantis has done in florida is remarkably unpopular nationally, and i think if you got into a race that was a bit more 50/50, i'm not sure the 2022 campaign was a great barometer for ron desantis's health in a place like florida. i think donald trump has a ceiling in both north carolina

and florida, and i think you could have some very interesting races there. >> so let's look at another part of this memo. it highlights key gains made in the midterms, despite a turnout that was more republican than 2020. democrats gained votes from republican and independent swing voters, particularly women over 65. those persuadable voters, at this point, are there more than they were the last presidential cycle, and if so, how do you reach them? >> yeah, there probably are a few more persuadable voters. >> because of abortion? >> absolutely. in 2022, in kansas, nobody would have looked six months before that and thought, boy, i think that's going to be one of the big wins that shows the power of this issue. we obviously have abortion going through the court system again, arguments yesterday that i presume and many do as well will end up before the supreme court

the summer before an election year. i think that gives a lot of entree to voter groups the democrats may not have had a lot of entry into before. i absolutely think, too, the pool of voters undoubtedly is going to be bigger for democrats in 2024 than it was in 2022. we have had for many many many years a really hard time on the democratic side getting voters excited, as big a pool of voters excited in off year elections or just congressional elections than we do in presidential campaigns. >> robert gibbs, allie raffa, thank you both so much. there are poll numbers suggesting that trump's 2024 nomination could spell big trouble for the gop. could their abortion position be the reason? former republican ohio governor john kasich who once ran against trump will join me next. whh o ot trump will join me next. without a prescription. astepro is the first and only 24-hour steroid-free spray. while flonase takes hours,

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that's according to the survey from wpa intelligence and obtained by the national review. i'm joined by former ohio republican governor john kasich who is also a former presidential candidate and current msnbc political analyst. always great to see you, governor. look, do you buy this? if trump is the nominee, does he hurt down ballot candidates or, frankly, at this point, trump is just baked in and they run by themselves? >> well, you know, i think that the case would be -- i don't think you're going to see great enthusiasm across the board in any way for donald trump. and if a candidate does not generate great enthusiasm, they start at the top, and if they're not enthusiastic, they may not vote or who knows, they might write somebody in or vote for a democrat. they don't usually go all the way down the ballot in all cases. there's a normal dropoff, chris, you know that. it's a simple thing. trump would have to do amazing things to turn it around, so his

enthusiasm would expand. i really don't see that. but there's no surprise here. and it's interesting that that poll was released by national review, which is a conservative publication. and what are they trying to say. maybe they're now piling on saying we can't have trump because all of these folks, many of them are working against them, and this is something that would get people worked up inside the party. until the party officials themselves start to make changes, i don't think this is going to have that much impact on them? >> i'm going to ask you specifically about the abortion issue, governor, "the washington post" found that when you look at special elections that were held before roe was overturned in june of 2022, republicans mostly won, but after that, democrats have been over perform, they have been winning. what do republicans do about that? do they not take anything away from it at their peril? >> you know, chris, i think we know that people on both sides

of the issue, that people don't want extremes. they don't want late term abortion, and they don't want something that's too early where things are banned where a woman may not even know if she's pregnant. the answer to that, frankly, is compromise. and right now i don't see either side willing to compromise, and so, you know, this issue is just going to have to take its course over time. and i think at the end, you will probably have some sense of a compromise between both sides that will settle on some time frame that people say, okay, it's not exactly what i want, but it's better than if we are operating in the extreme. because now people can put things on the ballot. it's better to get a compromise than to leave everything out there on the ballot, in one way or another that may be more extreme than people might feel comfortable with. >> polls support what you're saying, most americans support some limits on abortion, but after the first trimester.

is there a way for a republican candidate to clearly define a position on abortion that can appeal both to primary and general election voters? are they going to have to go the conservative, most conservative route in the primary, and then maybe try to flip. how do you handle it? >> you know, chris, you got to remember, there are some issues out there that politicians feel strongly about or people feel strongly about. i mean, i've been in cases where, you know, there are things that i really thought were really critical, and, you know, it didn't work out for me, that the public didn't like some of what i was trying to do. and, you know, if you don't listen to the public, you make a mistake, and a lot of people say, oh, well, the politicians don't listen to the public, yeah, they really do at the end because they're the ones that hire and fire them. there's a circumstance here where you may not get everything you want, but if you can reach a compromise that satisfies most people, then i think you're in the sweet spot, and so sometimes

you have to give up some of your deeply held views, and it exists on both sides to reach some kind of an agreement that will provide some stability and answers for this question. >> always great to have you on the program. former governor john kasich, good to see you, thank you. >> thanks, chris. after a long legislative battle, south carolina is one step closer to reinstating a six-week abortion ban. the bill now heads to the state senate, and if it's approved as expected, it goes to the governor who supports it. this would actually be the second time the state passed a six-week abortion ban. the supreme court ruled it violated privacy rights. legislatures have rewritten it, they hope the changes made to the new bill along with changes in the makeup of the court means this law sticks. we'll follow it for you. a ground breaking settlement with a massive price tag. deutsche bank has agreed to pay

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there are stories about patients having to ration medications. tell us what you are hearing and experiencing. >> first of all, thank you so much for having us on. we want to get the message out. the most important thing is to help our patients and get access to these drugs. the data you quoted from the "new york times," that was earlier this week. we know from our surveys that there's providers in 42 states that are experiencing either no drug supply or low drug supply. and we're also hearing that, you know, the concern obviously that when they don't have these drugs to provide their patients, where do they turn to. >> how do you even as a doctor say to a patient, you'd have a better chance at survival with this drug, but i can't get it for you? >> well, chris, i can't imagine. i'm so fortunate. i'm at duke, and we have supply issues, but they have been very coordinated in their efforts to

mitigate the low supply. so i haven't had to say those words, but for my colleagues that have, i can't imagine the distress that it causes them. >> you know, there's an obvious, very obvious health risk that you don't have to be a doctor to understand, but earlier this year, the senate homeland security committee was told point-blank that these shortages with a national security threat. they got a report, and it said this, in part, shortages increased by nearly 30% last year compared with 2021, with the average shortage lasting 18 months, some spanning 15 years. i think this is shocking to a lot of people. something that could go on for 15 years. what can the government do? >> i think this is a public health crisis, there are several things the government can do, working with the legislatures, working with regulatory offices, as well as the manufacturers. i'm a physician, but looking at this from the big picture, if we could do something about our

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>> there's a couple of different facets of this report. for the first time ever we are more likely than not to reach that 1.5 degree celsius warming benchmark. we've heard the number on and on again. this is one of those numbers we have tried to engrain in people's brains, we do not want to reach that. we are expected to reach that for a short-term in 2027. that's a really important piece. this isn't the long-term permanent threshold that we are really trying to avoid globally. this is over the next five years there's a really good chance, 66% chance that we could see one of these years reach that 1.5 degree celsius mark. that, of course, comes with some clear signals of what could happen down the line if we do eventually end up with that mark up permanently. we're expected to reach that threshold more frequent before it becomes permanent. 90% chance that at least one in fact next five years will be the hottest ever. right now, chris, 2016 is set as the hottest year on record across the globe, and we likely will see that record broken here

between now and 2027. >> it's important noting that that 2016 record came in an el nino year. this new report says scientists are expecting el nino conditions to return later this summer. so what does that mean for what we should expect? should we be worried about what is going to be like this summer? >> there's a couple of contributing factors. the greenhouse gas emissions are the biggest issue. when we have an el nino, a climate pattern in the tropical pacific, it has to do with the sea surface temperatures. when we see the temperatures in that region becoming warmer than average, we know that it's going to influence global temperatures, too and if we go back to last december, we had an ongoing three-year la nina. a la nina is the opposite of the el nino. a cooler period. but as we've gone through the past couple of months, we get to today, we see warming indications over the pacific. that tells us the la nina is over, so now we're watching for that increase in those global temperatures because of the el nino influence. we're starting to transition. in the short-term, it means a

couple of things. it does have impacts that people say are positive. we have wind sheer over this region in the atlantic. this is the tropical development region. that means that it's less favorable conditions for tropical storms and systems to develop. of course that makes a big difference for hurricane season. but when we look at the long-term impacts, that's when these couple of records and things that we're watching, that 1.5 degree celsius martin luther king comes into play, chris, when we have these global temperatures that we're looking to be influenced on a big scale from that el nino. >> angie lassman, we appreciate it. join us for "chris jansing reports" every weekday, 1:00 to 3:00 eastern on msnbc. our coverage continues with "katy tur reports" right now. good to be with you. i'm katy tur. we have been talking about it for days. work requirements, republicans are demanding them,