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i notice the number four horse is called coffeewithchris, you would want to place a bet there. >> i'm happy to front you some money, put one down for you. i tell you what, coffeewithchris, that is a horse with speed early. not a lot of speed in this race, but there are some wise guys out there who think coffeewithchris could steal this race. i'll put a little down for you. >> steve kornacki, two bucks on coffeewithchris, thank you. that's going to do it for us this hour. join us for "chris jansing reports" every weekday on msnbc. our coverage continues with "katy tur reports" right now. all i will say is coffeewithchris is always a winner. good to be with you, i'm katy tur. we're starting on capitol hill today where negotiators are taking a break. you might ask, a break, the
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deadline is june 1st. who has time for a break? well, apparently conversations are not productive, at least that's how the gop is framing it. here was the republicans lead negotiator, congressman garrett graves who walked out of the room early today. >> the house passed the strong bill. it has great savings, and it's responsible and puts us on a path. until people are willing to have reasonable conversations about how you can actually move forward and do the right thing, then we're not going to sit here and talk to ourselves. >> speaker mccarthy says the pause is not fatal, and the white house says an agreement remains possible, but it does concede, the white house does, both sides are still pretty far apart, perhaps as far apart as some of the more progressive senate democrats who say the president should ignore a vote all together, and raise the ceiling by himself, with authority, they argue, is granted by the 14th amendment. and the house freedom caucus
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which tweeted today that speaker mccarthy should suspend negotiations. no more discussion on watering it dow period. both president biden and speaker mccarthy are limited by their own parties. mccarthy only has a four-vote majority and is under constant threat of the gavel being taken away by any single member who does not like what he's doing while president biden has to convince senate democrats that spending cuts, which come from hard won social programs are worth it, with tight majorities in both house, there just isn't all that much wiggle room on other side. joining me now is nbc news senior capitol hill correspondent garrett haake. and from hiroshima, nbc news chief white house correspondent kristen welker. how is the white house seeing this pause in the negotiation? >> reporter: garrett and i have been talking about this
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throughout the day. it's not unusual to see this type of an 11th hour pause when you're having high stakes negotiations. it's really a way for each side to go back to their respective parties, and say, hey, we are fighting the good fight for our key priorities. not clear just yet what this pause signifies. we know one of the key sticking points comes down to the budget caps, republicans want bigger spending cuts, the white house saying they're not going to go along with that that that would be slash some of the president's key priorities, and they're really trying to tamp down the drama around this. let me read you a little bit of a statement that the white house put out saying there are real differences between the parties on budget issues and talks will be difficult. the president's team is working hard towards a reasonable bipartisan solution that can pass the house and senate. that term, bipartisan, is critical from the perspective of the white house. they continue to argue that, look, any deal has to have both democrat and republican votes, and so that is where they see
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their leverage in all of this i would just underscore what you said just a few moments ago, which is that you did see yesterday this mini progressive revolt with democratic lawmakers saying they don't want the white house to compromise on things like work requirements for social safety net programs, for food and housing assistance, so we know that's a real sticking point as well. and it is looming large over the president's diplomatic trip here in japan. >> garrett, you have two sides, the extremes of two sides saying don't do anything, leave it. there's the house freedom caucus saying pause the negotiations, suspend them, they don't want to compromise at all, and then you have the senate democrats, as kristen just reminded us, saying don't even negotiate period, use the 14th amendment. there's got to be, if you're going to come to a deal, there's going to be something happening in the middle. can you tell us if anything is happening in the middle? >> absolutely. these negotiations are happening the in middle. i'm somebody who looks at something like that letter from
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the house freedom caucus asking for negotiations to stop, and i read that, and i say, oh, that's means there's real progress. these are people that were never going to vote for a bipartisan deal do raise the debt ceiling. they were not going to vote for something weaker in their view than what the house had passed. getting to the point where they drop off and say we're out of this is, in my mind, a sign of progress, and i think there's probably a similar dynamic going on with some of the most progressive members of the house and senate where they're just not going to want to be on the board with anything that includes any kind of spending cuts like what a big chunk of republicans are going to want to get a deal. so the sweet spot of this is going to be in the center. you might lose 50 members on the far left and far right of both parties in the house to get a deal through. i do think you're still reasonably on track for a deal. speaker mccarthy is the person who's going to own the process of turning whatever becomes from this deal into law, and he does own it now.
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he got the negotiations he wants with the people he wanted in the room. he said they need something, perhaps by the end of this weekend to back time it to make sure it can be passed through both chambers and become law and avert default. he knows the stakes as well as anybody. he's got skin in the game too. i don't know that this break, this pause will be too much longer than necessary for everybody to kind of lick their wounds, recalibrate, and get back in the room. >> this is why i love having you on, garrett, you give us the perspective of somebody who covers the hill, and understands the machinations. a sign of progress. the issue i would ask you would be about speaker mccarthy's speakership, his ability to hold on to the gavel. we've talked about this a lot. one vote to call a confidence vote on him. does that hang over his head at all when he's come to go an agreement or trying to come to an agreement with the democrats? >> he would tell you no, but i think the real answer is to a certain degree, yes, and
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remember, it's one vote to call for that no confidence vote but it would be a much tougher thing to go through with it, and for what purpose. as we learned in the 15 votes it took to get kevin mccarthy elected the first time, there isn't anyone else to get the majority if you were somehow successful in tossing him over the side, so the idea of discharge or, excuse me, a motion to vacate, which is what this would be, to get rid of mccarthy if conservatives are angry enough to do so is hanging out there, but mccarthy has a number of tools at his disposal to stave it off. i don't think it's the kind of thing that keeps him up at night, but certainly the politics of making sure at least the majority, ideally the vast majority of his conference has his back on this is very important to the republican leader. >> i wish i could see our next guest's face as you were saying that. we'll go to him. joining me now is north carolina republican congressman and member of the house freedom
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caucus, dan bishop, i couldn't see your face as garrett was talking about kevin mccarthy's prospects. i want to start with i know you were smiling at because someone told me in my year, that means there's real progress, garrett said, about the house freedom caucus tweeting to suspend negotiations. you're on the house freedom caucus. is there progress? >> what we have said, katy, and it's funny in the course of the coverage that led up to this discussion here, there have been no mention of the elephant in the room, and that's the united states senate. the point of our official position is not that we're out. we're very much involved in the process. i think garrett's got that one wrong, but the house has passed a plan. we raised the debt limit, $1.5 trillion and we have seven modest steps to move the federal government toward putting down the debt crack pipe. we have seen nothing out of the senate. that's our point. the senate needs to act. and the senate that has left town on vacation. the president is in japan.
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so a lot of discussion, a lot of continuing inquiries about the plan we passed and where we might negotiate against ourselves, is beside the point. >> the process is not going to take up mccarthy's plan until the president comes up with a compromise. the senate is controlled by democrats, it's a split congress. >> right. true. they can pass their plan, and then we go to conference. that's the way the process works. >> if there's any compromise being made between the president's team and the speaker's team on the plan that the speaker already passed, would you vote yes for it? >> it depends on what comes back, and that's, you know, just the point i just made, if the senate acts, we go to conference, that's what you do is you come to terms but it depends on what the terms are that are proposed. we made a tremendous, a great proposal in the form of the bill that passed the house in april that raises the debt limit and
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takes these other steps. it's now time for the other side to come to the table. >> what's your red line? >> look, the deal that we put up is the right one, obviously, sparse i'm concerned. let's see what they say, and hopefully they'll take the hole thing. that's what they should do, and if they don't, we'll see. >> so the negotiation, i know you're calling for the senate to make their own moves but the negotiation is happening between the president's team and speaker's team right now. that's the process that is currently playing out. there's going to have to be some compromise for the democrats to sign on, and the democrats aren't so thrilled about the idea of work requirements. then again, i've spoken to some democrats who say if work requirements are on the table then taxes should also be on the table. would you say yes to something that includes a hike in taxes for the very wealthy among us? >> the speaker said absolutely not. one thing that we have in our
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plan is that we would repeal some green new deal tax credits that go to the wealthiest, and so that's one way of doing that, and we're on board for that. but the speaker has said very clearly and he has done a fantastic job of carrying forward the house's priorities in this, and he said he doesn't see any -- we're having historically high taxes as a percentage of gdp. that's not the place to go. again, we think everybody ought to get in the game who's got a responsibility, and we think the people who are out are the senate in particular, the president's not doing much and the state of the negotiations as covered by your reporting indicates they're not getting anywhere. the senate needs to act. >> some of your colleagues have said that defaults is not that big of a deal. how do you feel about default something. >> i think this is not a -- kevin mccarthy has emphasized and the reason we in the house freedom caucus constructed substantially all of the proposal that passed on the floor of the house, we don't
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think you tinker with this stuff, get in a game of chicken at the last minute. that's the president and democrats in the senate who made the choice, we think it's not very wise. >> how do you feel about the default if it comes to that, who would you blame, would you blame the white house or the senate? >> the people who aren't doing their job. we've done ours. >> let me ask you about the 14th amendment. some democrats have argued that the 14th amendment gives the president the authority that the u.s.'s debt shall not be questioned is what it says in that amendment. do you think the president has the authority to raise it on his own? >> i don't think so. i think there are provisions in law that provide a very serious penalty for executive branch officials who spend without authority of congress, and that's what that amounts to. i doubt you'll find many people in the administration who want to do that at the end of the day. >> if speaker mccarthy relents to a deal that you don't like,
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would you consider taking a no confidence vote, calling for a no confidence vote, a notion to vacate? >> the result of what occurred in january, our process for electing the speaker has led the republican conference to unity that i have never seen. kevin mccarthy is doing an absolutely outstanding job and i anticipate he's going to continue to do an outstanding job. we all understand each other, and we're making progress. the media might turn to the senate and say you need to do your job. the republicans in the house seem to be getting their job done. >> one other thing in the news today, tim scott, filing the paperwork to run for president, the senator from south carolina, the republican senator, how do you feel about that? would you endorse him? >> tim scott is a marvelous united states senator, great guy, like him very much. i'm not a pundit. i'll leave that to your evening hosts, i'm getting my work done. i'm focused like a laser beam on
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making sure we take care of the debt ceiling package and get through that, so no time for presidential politics in my schedule. >> no time. congressman bishop, thank you very much for joining us. we appreciate it. >> thank you, katy, glad to be with you. the fulton county d.a. announced remote work days for the month of august. why that move means so much for the georgia investigation into donald trump. we're going to explain. plus, allen weisselberg might be in danger of jail time again, what the d.a. is asking of the former trump cfo. >> and what jordan neeley's family is asking for on the day of his funeral. we're back in 60 seconds. funerl we're back in 60 seconds here. because you call these communities home, and we do too. pnc bank. oh booking.com, ♪ i'm going to somewhere, anywhere. ♪
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request, but legal experts say it signals an august timetable for a potential donald trump indictment. joining me now is nbc news correspondent vaughn hillyard. walk me through everything you know. >> just the end of summer break, the start of the school year, for potential charges, not only donald trump who is in the cross hairs of this, but also potentially multiple electors, rudy giuliani, the georgia gop chairman. this has been a long time coming. two years of now investigations, of course the special grand jury issued its report and recommendations of potential charges, but now what fani willis is putting together is her presentation to go before a separate grand jury which will ultimately be the one to give the thumbs up to those indictments she seeks. >> she signalled that it would happen during the summer, right? >> correct. >> so this is even more signaling about when it would happen during the summer. she's also asking for security or she has asked for security around that courthouse. it does seem to indicate that we know where this is going.
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>> right. i mean, i don't think she would be giving it quite this much attention if she didn't feel like she had a case to present. it was this letter that not only went to the chief judge in fulton county, but also 20 other county officials, including the sheriff's office here, really setting up the stakes, the apparatus in atlanta for security is not like that of new york city. let's be very clear here, and donald trump has not only said that she should be ousted from her position but taken personal direct attacks and all of those attacks are coming while she continues this process, already in a court filing this month, it's been indicated that eight of those fake electors have agreed to immunity deals with her. this is still very active. it's not like she's just sitting and waiting to seek an indictment later this summer. this is actively taking place, these negotiations. >> remind us who else might be in the cross hairs of this, donald trump, maybe the electors who do not have immunity, and rudy giuliani. >> rudy giuliani, you'll recall, there in december, i was standing outside of the georgia state capitol, as inside he was taking part in an official
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government proceeding. and part of the charges that are currently being considered are the attempts to influence government officials, and what he was doing was spreading conspiracy theories in a government setting here, and we're intentionally looking at racketeering charges. you have eight individuals already agreeing to immunity. eight fake electors, the racketeering charges do not have to prove that there was a grand scheme, right, a conspiracy among all of these individuals to commit a crime, but what they have to prove for these racketeering charges would be that there were multiple individuals who had the same crime intended, and if fani willis believes that she is able to prove there was a direct effort to overturn the 2020 election, and multiple individuals involved here, that's why it's important to get some of the individuals, fake electors to agree to cooperate with her. and the next few months will be big ahead of the next three weeks in august. >> and joining me now is msnbc contributor, and former u.s.
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attorney, and senior fbi official, chuck rosenberg. explain how you read into this move by fani willis. >> clearly, as vaughn indicated, she thinks something is coming between late gun and early september. she's concerned about security. she's asked the judges in that county not to schedule trials during that period. obviously i think has an eye on presenting a proposed indictment to a regular grand jury, katy, and likely expects that they will return an indictment or two or three, against any number of people. as vaughn pointed out, it is not just mr. trump who's a subject or target of this investigation. a number of senior officials around mr. trump interfered in the election. and a number of fake electors in georgia, those who did not get cooperation or immunity deals may well be targets of this investigation. >> on the spectrum of court
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cases that donald trump could face, charges that he could face, where does this fall in your opinion? >> well, it's a good question. this is an important case because it goes to the heart of our electoral process and our democratic system. efforts to interfere in elections are extraordinarily damaging and dangerous. i've always said, katy, if you're going to charge a former president, it has to be with compelling evidence of a very serious crime. and in my view, my humble opinion, efforts to overturn an election are extraordinarily serious crimes. >> let me ask you about the former trump organization cfo, allen weisselberg. he spent his time in rikers. he could be facing more jail time. potential perjury charges could be headed his way. can you explain what's going on there? >> so they clearly want mr.
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weisselberg's testimony, his cooperation against mr. trump and others, but i have a problem with this and it may surprise you because i'm no fan of mr. weisselberg, and certainly no fan of mr. trump, but i'm not a fan either of successive prosecutions. if mr. weisselberg, let's say, committed two crimes at about the same time, and they charge him and convict him, and incarcerate him for one and leave the other one over his head so they can extract cooperation or obtain leverage later. i don't like that. it doesn't strike me as fair. that said, i don't think there's anything unlawful about prosecuting mr. weisselberg a second time. but if it's for information that the government already had in its possession when they brought the first charges, they should have brought them all at the same time. >> chuck rosenberg, thank you very much for joining us. we do appreciate it. coming up, ahead, his family
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says he was a sheep farmer, not a senior al qaeda leader. what may have led to a major mistake overseas. first, though, what jordan neely's family is asking for on the day of his funeral. s falymi the day of his funeral
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nearly three weeks after he was choked to death on a new york city subway. 30-year-old jordan neely was laid to rest in harlem today. neely's death at the hands of marine veteran daniel penny sparked widespread protests across the city. reverend al sharpton addressed what he called a systemic distortion of values. >> this funeral was not on the schedule. we're not here because of natural causes.
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we're here because of unnatural policies. we keep criminalizing people with mental illness. people keep criminalizing people that need help. they don't need abuse. they need help. >> joining me now from outside of the church where neely's funeral was held this morning is nbc news correspondent rehema ellis. what is the family asking for today? >> reporter: well, there was cries for no justice, no peace, and they were not just talking about the criminal justice system but also in the system of humanity, if you will. reverend al said during the eulogy that he suspected that most of us in this country know someone or have a family member who is struggling with mental illness, and he said, considering that, you would think there would be more support to help people who are mentally ill, and yet we say we
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earlier this month, u.s. military officials claim that a hell fire drone strike in syria killed an unnamed senior member of al qaeda. now they are walking back that claim. two u.s. officials tell "the washington post" that the pentagon is no longer confident a senior al qaeda official was killed in its may 3rd strike. the victim's family says he was not a member of al qaeda, let alone a senior member. he was a father of ten who was tending to his sheep when he was killed by an american missile. joining me now is nbc news pentagon correspondent courtney kube. what do you know about this? >> reporter: as you said, u.s. central command put out this statement a few weeks ago saying they had killed a senior member of al qaeda. they didn't identify who the person was. reporters started asking who was it, we couldn't get an answer.
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what was clear early on, katy, that same day is the military officials we were speaking to really weren't sure who they got. they did, however, believe it was some al qaeda figure, so as days went on, we still couldn't get an answer on the individual's identity. fast forward to today, because there is still this uncertainty about exactly who they got and there are reports from civilians on the ground in syria that in fact, it was a civilian, a father out tending to his livestock at the time he was shot down by is this predator missile. they are looking into whether or not this was an al qaeda leader struck or, in fact, a civilian. we don't have an answer to it. i will say just candidly, it doesn't seem like the officials seem to know which way this is going to end up, whether it was an al qaeda leader or an innocent civilian, but it does bring back memories of what occurred in august of 2021 in
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kabul, afghanistan, when there was this strike on a target in kabul, right near the airport, at the time it was believed to be a potential isis bomber, someone who might be coming to attack the airport there, and it turned out he was an innocent civilian, an aide worker, a number of his family members were killed in that. so centcom, u.s. central command is looking into this. >> what do they do when they make mistakes like this? how do they make it up? they obviously can't make it up to the family, is there an effort made? >> reporter: there is. every situation is different. and syria is different than afghanistan or iraq. we have seen in the past where there have been strikes or incidents that have killed civilians, they will make what they call an exgratia payment or they pay the families some money. there will often be an apology. every situation is different. >> courtney, let me ask you about ukraine and f 16s. we have been talking about this for a long time now, and it felt like it was coming. it finally has come. the u.s. and nato allies will be
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getting f-16s to volodymyr zelenskyy and ukraine to fight in this war. are they ours? coming from the united states or somewhere else? >> probably not. most likely not coming from the u.s. i don't think we will see u.s. f-16s flying with american flags in ukraine anytime soon by the ukrainian air force, but the u.s. and some european allies, some g7 allies today saying that they would begin this joint training, which is critically important because, you know, the u.s., because f-16s are made here in the u.s. and have sensitive components, the u.s. has to tell other countries that they have f-16s, that they can not only give them or sell them to someone else, they have to give permission, essentially to train other nations that don't have these systems. they have to give them permission to train. they know that the u.s. has given that permission for other
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allies that have f 16s to provide training. we don't know a whole lot of details, other than that will happen in the coming weeks, more than one location in europe that they'll do this training, but most likely after this occurs, these countries will come together, who's going to provide the f-16s, when they will go, and how many. but, again, most likely these will not be coming from the u.s. a critical question to ask here is whatever nation does give them, whether it's the netherlands or belgium or other countries in the region who has f-16s, will the u.s. then back fill them? that's another question we don't have an answer to. we have heard many times from defense department officials, whether in testimony and briefings, we have heard many times that one of the reasons they didn't want to provide the f-16s was the cost. we have been asking questions about the new $3 billion that the u.s. essentially found additional for presidential draw down authority, if that would then allow the u.s. to send f-16s.
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and i got to tell you, we keep hearing no. that gives more of an indication they're not going to be u.s., they're going to come from some allies. >> courtney kube, thank you very much. joining me now is chrissy houlahan, thank you very much for joining us. i want to talk about hiroshima, but let's start with ukraine and the f-16s. there was concern. the talk was not only financial as courtney was saying, but also this idea that giving a f-16 to the ukrainians would be crossing a red line, and it would provoke russia. how do you feel about that? is there intelligence that we have now suggesting that it would not provoke russia? >> what i would say is there are very few days in congress where i feel like it's been a day where i feel like i have definitely directly made a difference. this is one of those days. i started asking about f-16s and other aircraft a year ago. representative ted lieu and representative gallagher and myself asked dod to look into
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this issue a long time ago. and i'm heartened to see this decision has been made. i embedded in the authorization act, the language that allows for training of very killed pilots to man these aircrafts. i am heartened this is the right thing to do, and somewhat disappointed it has taken so long. i think that all of the things we provide to ukraine always have the opportunity or the possibility to offer them to be escalatory. we have seen that we need to give the ukrainians everything that they ask for and everything they need to be able to fight off the russian incursion and invasion, because it's about democracies all over the world. >> do you think giving them f-16s brings us a step closer to ending this war? >> that's the thing that i have been exchanging text messages about with my colleagues. you could speculate, had they had them earlier, would it have made a difference, and what will be the difference maker now. will this be the difference maker? i don't think any of us can have that crystal ball and know the answer. it's certainly something that gives them another tool in their
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tool box. >> is there a time limit for this. maybe a dollar limit for our ability to continue to support ukraine militarily and financially? >> we need to make sure we keep uniformly in line, aligned with each other, democrats and republican, house and senate, the united states and all of our allies to understand how critical it is to continue to support ukraine. certainly there's a point at which people become tired and exhausted, and i don't think we've reached that point right now. i think people understand the impact. in fact, one of the responsibilities i have as a member of congress is communicating and educating and leading my community to understanding why this is so important, and why we need to make sure we don't have the possibility of this kind spreading to other parts of the world. >> explain why it's a big deal for volodymyr zelenskyy to meet with saudi arabia today. >> i think what he's doing, what president zelenskyy is doing is going around in sort of a world tour of sorts to make sure he
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has secured that support and alliship he's able to. my imagination is at some point relatively soon, we'll begin the counter offensive that we have all been hearing about, and this is an opportunity for gains to be made and perhaps a peace to be made as well. my guess is that's why he's going on this world tour of sorts to be able to have those conversations with allies, and those who would like to learn more about the ukrainian situation. >> a very close relationship with russia, and so there's that. let me ask you about hiroshima. the president visited the memorial today. he's obviously been out there for the g7. he felt it was really important for him to do that. can you explain why? >> and that's what, you know, the second thing that happened today that made me feel as though i was making somewhat of a difference. i went to japan a few months ago with a congressional bipartisan delegation and had the opportunity to visit the same place you're showing on the screen right now and the museum itself and came back and helped write a letter to encourage president biden to ensure that the g7 when they went to
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hiroshima, not only laid wreaths but went inside the museum to see the horrors of the war as they are depicted in the museum. we sent the letter asking him to do that, and i was excited to open my newspaper this morning and see that the delegation did, not only lay the wreaths but also see the inside of the museum. when i was in the inside of the museum, i had the opportunity to remind myself of a story that i learned when i was a girl about the thousand cranes and so i helped lead an effort on behalf of my community to educate them about that story, about the horrors of the war, 70, 80 years ago and the dropping of bombs, and we were able to put together over 10,000 cranes to send over to the g7 summit as well, and to the japanese ambassador to be able to remind people of the horrors of nuclear war. it's these days that you feel like maybe you are making a
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raids. gadi schwartz shows us what happened. >> reporter: an early morning show of force as police set off to take down a growing problem, illegal gambling dens that they say are hiding in plain sight. >> there are six different s.w.a.t teams like this and they're going to be hitting different locations simultaneously. >> reporter: how prevalent are these illegal casino dens? >> very prevalent, hubs for narcotics sales, narcotics users. >> come out with your hands up. >> reporter: they're talking to a woman right here that they have already pulled out from the location, and she's telling them there are two people inside. we're still waiting see what happens. actually he's coming out right now with his hands up. pomona pd makes several arrests and find an illegal gambling den behind the main house. officers are raiding five other locations close by. police say these under ground dens are big business, pulling in tens of thousands of dollars
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a week. in los angeles, the ultimate beneficiary is the mexican mafia, the syndicate that oversees latino gangs, run behind prison walls, the organization is notorious for dealing in drug traffics, gambling, prostitution, even murder. the money they make through the illegal gambling funds these endeavors. >> they will take out money, and they will turn it into other lucrative criminal activities. >> reporter: after a short drive, we get to a strip mall. so this location looks like it's right next to a convenience store. this is a laundry mat. and they've already got six people against the wall here. this is really look inside, tho the different gambling tables. is that a schedule right there of who is working the door? >> yeah, looks like either who is working the door or providing security. >> are they putting their gang affiliation on the wall, on the schedule? >> exactly.
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>> reporter: street gangs are allowed to work this because they kick a percentage of their earnings up to the mexican mafia. >> think about it as a mcdonald's, and the franchisee can open up a store anywhere and they pay a fee to the mexican mafia. >> reporter: the dens are centered around an odd-looking arcade table. players pay for bullets which they use to shoot at fish and dragons. the more they hit, the more money they win. you can hear that sound, that is the officers cracking open the different machines. you can see all the different cash receptors there. illegal gambling dens like this one have no shortage of customers and are rarely closed down for good. how soon will it be before this is running again? >> weeks to months. >> is there any stopping it? >> keeping the pressure on and harsher penalties. >> do you think it's happening?
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the air national guardsman accused of one of the most significant intelligence leaks in decades is in federal court right now, and jack teixeira, we just learned this, will remain behind bars as he awaits trial. joining me now is justice and intelligence correspondent ken dilanian. so i think i kind of buried that. at immediate issue is whether or not jack teixeira would go home and be under the care of his father or whether he should remain behind bars. doj is saying you have to keep him behind bars, he is a threat. tell me what the judge just said. >> magistrate judge david hensee
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ruled with the government to keep jack teixeira in jail. this was a difficult for the government to meet the burden. but the justice department argued over two detention hearings that jack teixeira posed a danger to the public and to u.s. national security. this is video there that they pointed to that was obtained by "the washington post" where he uttered a horrific series of racial slurs and fired his weapon in what he called a mag dump, emptying all the ammo. this was a person, according to the justice department, who was fascinated with mass shooters. and a judge cited that in his comments. he said he was concerned about two things. one is his fascination with firearms. and secondly, what the judge said was his lack of candor and integrity. the record is replete with examples where he was hiding his true self, when he applied for a
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security clearance, when he tried to convince local authorities to give him a gun license after they had denied him over comments he had made in high school about a potential attack. so, look, the justice department made a strong case that teixeira is not only leaked these documents but has extremist tendencies and is a continuing risk to be recruited by foreign adversaries, for example, if he was home with his father, which is what the defense proposed. and so this order can be appealed. but for right now, he's going to remain in custody. >> once again, ken, he was told a number of times before this giant leak was discovered to stop pocketing intelligence, to stop searching for things he didn't have a reason to search for. >> reporter: not only was he told, that's so remarkable, the judge went through that chronology. the entire base, his superiors were put on notice.
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on three different occasions he was acting suspiciously with classified material, but they didn't take away his access or conduct any kind of investigation of his activities on social media or elsewhere. it's remarkable, and probably one of the reasons that two of his commanders have been suspended, and the intelligence wing that he worked for has been stood down from its intelligence mission. and there probably will be other changes because there are a lot of questions being asked how that could happen. >> it appears to be a serious breach, serious ramifications for that. ken, thank you very much. and that is going to do it for me today, on this friday. "deadline: white house" starts right now. ♪ ♪ hi, everyone. it's 4:00 in new york. things are coming to a head in georgia. the state that represented perhaps more than any other the

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