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at all. what i am doing is very serious. it's very important work. >> nope, not a game. that was fulton county d.a. fani willis last summer talking about her probe of trump's efforts to overturn the 2020 election. and there are new indications tonight of precisely when any indictments will be coming this summer. also tonight, ron desantis gets set to formally launch his presidential campaign with the baggage of a four-plus year record of attacking the personal freedoms of the people and businesses in his own state. including his economically destructive fight with disney. plus, my conversation with chasten buttigieg who has a message for young people amid the growing threats to lgbtq youth. but we begin tonight with seven battle ground states that president biden won in 20202020. arizona, georgia, michigan, pennsylvania, and wisconsin.

not only will these all be states to watch in next year's presidential election, but all part of the failed plot by donald trump and his team to overturn the last election by organizing slates of alternative fake electors. those illegitimate republican electors submitted forged documents in december of 2020 vouching that they were duly-elected and qualified electors and were falsely declaring trump a victor and then tried to award their state's electoral votes to trump instead of joe biden. as we know, these fake electoral slates paid a huge role in trump's effort to short circuit our democracy. in fact, they were crucial to trump's plan to have vice president mike pence contest the results before congress on january 6th. we know that because the now infamous memos drafted by trump lawyers john eastman and jenna ellis both cited these dubious election documents as the basis for throwing out the legitimate

votes from those states. you think this would be a prime target for doj special counsel jack smith and his investigation into efforts to overturn the 2020 election, and it might well be. we just don't know. but we do know that the most aggressive investigation so far have been by local prosecutors, and that brings me to georgia. fulton county district attorney fani willis has signaled an august decision on potential charges in the investigation of trump's efforts to overturn the 2020 presidential election in georgia. which included the use of those fake electors. nbc news has obtained a letter from willis to the fulton county superior court chief judge saying most of her staff will work remotely during a three-week period in august. she also asked that judges not schedule trials or hold in-person hearings during part of that same time period. perhaps suggesting that that could be when a grand jury unseals indictments. now, it is worth noting that

earlier this month, at least eight of those fake electors in georgia struck immunity deals with willis' office, according to court filings. joining me now is hugo lowell, political investigations reporter for the guardian, and lisa reuben, msnbc legal analyst. i don't even know where to go first. i'm going to come to you first, lisa. there is this, you know, hold off on doing anything else kind of request. to you, does that signal indictments or could we be misreading this? >> it definitely signals to me that she expects some serious grand jury activity. and that she's trying to clear the building in order to make it safe for as many people as possible. one of the things that also struck me was how long the period is. it runs from july 1st to august 18th. that doesn't mean we should expect an indictment on each and every one of those days, but it also suggests to me that we should be expecting perhaps more than one charging instrument on more than one theory. so that donald trump is not necessarily, if he is indicted

at all, going to be indicted on the same theory as some of the fake electors or other people who could face criminalesh poexer here. >> trump tried to get fani willis bounced off the case, there judge said not doing that. at least for now, she's in place. nothing can be done. let me play quickly, a woman named emily, the foreperson of the grand jury. here is what she said earlier about whether we should be surprised. >> i will tell you it's not a short list. i mean, we saw 75 people, and there are six pages of the report cut out, i think, if you look at the page numbers. so it's not -- >> we're talking about more than a dozen people? >> i would say that. yes. >> are these recognizable names, names that people would know? >> there are certainly names that you would recognize. yes. there are names also that you might not recognize or there are

names that, like, you might recognize as someone who has followed this case, but then, you know, your mother might not recognize because she doesn't care about the intricacies of the case. but there definitely are some names you would expect. >> her giddiness, super inappropriate. let me put up a list of some of the names we do recognize. rudy giuliani, brian kemp, summoned before the grand jury, no one thinks brian kemp is in trouble. he said no. michael flynn, newt gingrich, lindsey graham, he doesn't seem to be in that much trouble. mark meadows, brad raffensperger, he's a person who also said no. john eastman, who was one of the architects of the scheme, cleta mitchell, who we know is also an arctic of that kind of stuff, and david schaefer. is there someone on that list who should be particularly worried? >> i think john eastman should be worried, david schaefer should be worried and the recording is telling us ehe

should be worried. >> he's the georgia republican party chairman. donald trump is going to speak at the republican party in georgia. >> he doesn't have an immunity deal. he was split off from a group of electors earlier this year because there was a perceived conflict. that means that he could face some exposure. that likely means he could have exposure here that others in that group didn't, even before we were talking about possible immunity deals. >> hugo, let me bring you in here. donald trump is supposed to address the georgia republican party, the republican party in georgia put aside brian kemp, don't go by him. it is a wild, far right wing party. what are the tea leaves you're hearing coming out of trump world and georgia? >> you know, it's a really interesting dynamic because he's obviously planning to do a rally in georgia in the coming weeks. which could place him in the state just weeks before an

indictment drops that could implicate him. if you look at the kinds of things that witnesses have been asked and the kinds of noises that have -- that the district attorney has been making, it sounds like this is a really sprawling conspiracy case at its core. like, the fake elector scheme and trump's efforts to overturn the election and trump's efforts to pressure state officials like brad raffensperger to overturn the election are all being seen in the same light, so when this conspiracy case eventually moves forward, i think the concern among trump world lawyers to be honest, not really trump himself, but trump world lawyers, have been how that is going to factor in when he goes to georgia and when he starts making public comments, if that might incriminate him. >> so here's the thing, and i'll come to you on this, it feels like what's happening with donald trump is that on a civil side, he's losing and losing. on the criminal side, people around him are losing and losing and losing. we now have mr. weisselberg, who

used to be his business guy, the guy who ran his businesses. he's now facing an additional perjury charge if he doesn't cooperate with the d.a. he apparently maybe was not so honest when he spoke with letitia james, who sued donald trump over financial fraud in the organization. what could be the challenges there? >> i think the challenges there are whether allen weisselberg is going to crack. one of the reasons to explore perjury charges is because the earlier iteration of a threat against weisselberg, insurance fraud charges, have not been enough to get his cooperation so far. joy, i looked at those deposition transcripts, they are part of the public record. he sat for three depositions with tish james' office in 2020. during those interviews, he told them that, yeah, trump overvalued his apartment by give or take $200 million. right. but that's not the lie. the lie is he was asked then, did he call financial

institutions and tell them that he needed to correct that? and he said no, because i didn't learn about that error until much later. in separate court filings we have tish james' lawyers saying actually, he knew about that. he knew about the right size of the apartment and what the value should be in 2012, three years before the value was misrepresented in trump's financial statements. if i'm the new york d.a.'s office, that's one potential source of a perjury charge that i could be looking at right now. >> and i say that, hugo, because it does feel like people around donald trump keep meeting these increasingly dire legal consequences for things that are prireral to things he did. now let's go to enrique tarrio. there's now a police officer who now also is in trouble. he's been charged with lying about leaks to enrique tarrio. washington, d.c. police officer was arrested on friday when he lied about leaking confidential information to enrique tarrio and obstructing the investigation after the destruction of that black lives

matter banner for which tarrio got indicted. this is some of the text they were texting to each other on telegram. looks like the feds are locking people up for rioting at the capitol. i hope none of your guys were among them. this guy told him. his name is officer le monde. in a telegram message. so far what i'm seeing and hearing, we're good. i can't say it officially, but personally i support you all and don't want to see your group's name and reputation dragged through the mud. okay, his name is lieutenant shane lemond. what do we know about that? you're starting to wrap up more people after tarrio has been convicted of seditious conseries. you think maybe people wonder whether being in trump world isn't paying off much. >> he has had a relationship with enrique tarrio through the post-election period and leading up to january 6th. and this actually came as an interesting point for the

january 6th committee and kind of reporters looking into this because le monde and some people in npd also had a relationship with roger stone, and roger stone had a relationship with enrique tarrio, so when you kind of draw the dots together, you triangulate to this relationship between an officer in npd, the leader of the proud boys, and shall we say someone who was very active in stop the steal leading up to the capitol attack. and i have to imagine that the special counsel is looking at this particularly aggressively, and the justice department is looking at this particularly aggressively because if you wand to find if there was any conspiracy, this is exactly the place you would look. >> feels like the sharks are circling closer to the donald. >> up next on "the reidout," ron desantis thinks the authoritarian state he created in florida is going to go over big with republican voters nagwide, but the backlash might be bigger.

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next week, ron desantis will reportedly announce his presidential bid. but you have to wonder, what makes him think america even wants what he's selling? posturing to the anti-woke mob has consequences. we're talking heavy economic hits centered around his war against disney. on thursday, the corporate giant says it has abandoned a plan to open up a new employee campus near orlando, amid rising tensions with the state and its governor. more than 2,000 california based

employees will no longer be asked to relocate to florida. josh demaro, chairman of disney parks, experiences and products division, cited changing business conditions as a reason for canceling the lake nona project. the new regional campus, a billion dollar investment, was intended for employees from all across the company. that includes the walt disney imagineering department. it's actually a very cool job. you get to make children's dreams come true. so it doesn't surprise us that ron desantis is over there crushing children's joy over fake fights with mickey mouse. while also crushing the joy of pride events, one of which is now canceled in tampa in the wake of his anti-drag bill. targeting drag shows is only one of the priorities desantis gleefully signed into law as part of his pre-presidential rollout. the new bills also ban gender affirming care for minors and will even grant the state of florida temporary custody of

children whose parents provide them with gender affirming care. hey, ron. what was that part again during covid? check the notes here, parental rights? i guess florida kids now belong to the state, like anyone who gets pregnant down there. don't say gay, bathroom bill, book bans, abortion bans. that's exactly what america wants, said absolutely no one. instead, it's what happens when keeping it right wing goes wrong. joining me now is "new york times" columnist michelle goldberg and republican strategist susan del percio. i want to may for you all this sound of bob iger, who is clearly winning this fight with ron desantis on a call, an earnings call, and here he is talking about florida. >> does the state want us to invest more, employ more people and pay more taxes or not? >> susan, you have been a long time republican strategist. where in the playbook for republican politicians is lose a

billion dollars of investments for your state? >> what's been amazing through this whole fight is what is a win for ron desantis? he doesn't have have a path except the one liner he's using in speeches and it's not the first time ron desantis has really ticked off big industry in his state. if you remember, during covid, he was after the cdc to get the cruise ship industry back online, and the cruise ship industry is like, yes, but everyone is going to need to be vaccinated. ron desantis says no business will operate in florida that requires a passport vaccination. and they went bananas. >> he sued them. >> all he is after, what he shows is business development for ron desantis is all about trying to get a one-liner in. and it's about personal development, has nothing to do with business, and the republicans running for president or talking about running for president, are having a field day.

started with nikki haley saying come over to south carolina. we have room for you. but it is also, i mean, it's so hard to talk about republican values because donald trump has corrupted them so much, like but back in the time, people actually in the republican party cared about supporting business. >> not anymore. not anymore. just to go through here, disney paid and collected more than $1.1 billion in state and local tax revenues in florida last year. walt disney company has about 75,000 employees in the state, one of the top private employers in the state. not all the employees stay in the park. some stay as nearby hotels, eat at restaurants, go on side field trips, the water parks in central florida draw millions to central florida every year. he's basically said i would rather them leave. 2019 study at oxford economics found orlando tourism generated $75.2 billion in economic impact for central florida. that's about $1,000 for every tourist. ron desantis has said okay, but

if you won't do what i say, get out. if you won't raise your kids how i say, we'll take your kids. if you want to wear a mask, i'll rip it off your kid in front of you in a news conference. what is he doing? >> i think first, he kind of misunderstood what happened with his re-election. i think his kind of opening the schools, his opposition to covid restrictions was popular, the kind of quote slosh unquote freedom agenda for better or worse, but he mistook that support for being kind of support for a full-on war on wokeness, and he's made anti-wokeness the center of his governorship. he always says, florida is where woke goes to die. it's why he's put so much energy into attacking new college and transforming new college, this school with less than 700 kids, has become this major policy obsession of his. and i think that he's so deep in

sorpt of the right-wing ecosystem that people who are cheering, yeah, disney is all full of groomers, that he's sort of lost touch with the rest of the country, for whom these buzz words about culture marxism and all the kind of language that you would know if you spent a lot of time reading right-wing blogs and listening to right-wing podcasts but they don't mean anything to most people. >> also, what parents and regular people, normal people understand, is hang on a second. i'm raising my kid. i take my kid to my doctor. and then you're going to tell me you're going to take my kid because you don't like the medical decisions i'm making? you're going to tell my black child they can't read a book about black history? you're going to tell them they can't take black hastery. you're going to tell my female child they can't take history about women. you're going to tell my jewish child they can't learn about the holocaust. this is a do what ron desantis

tells you to do, the state owns you agenda. who does he think that's going to attract? >> i think michelle was spot on when she said desantis misunderstood his election results for 2022. he really didn't get what was driving people. it was nothing, they didn't sho difference. 900,000 fewer votes cast on the democratic line from '18 to 2022. so people maybe didn't come out against him, but they didn't come out for him either. and right now, you look at independent women, and yeah, one of ron desantis' big things is i can win a general election. i mean, women in florida hate him by 61%. >> correct. >> i don't understand. it makes no sense that he is touting himself as an alternative to donald trump when actually, his baggage is policy baggage, which is much more dangerous to carry around in a general election. >> and he also, so he's trump

with a completely subjugated legislature. the idea he could do on a national scale what he does in florida is bull, it's not real because he's got a sycophant legislature that will pass anything he says. that isn't true on a national scale, but to the point i think susan makes, women want a lot of things. a six-week abortion ban at a national level, that ain't one of them. >> right, and i think that unlike trump, he is much more kind of a captive of the republican base. trump kind of bosses around the republican base, and they follow him. i think ron desantis follows the base. and so he was in kind of an impossible position. there's no excuse for signing this bill, but he also wouldn't be a presidential contender in the republican party if he hadn't signed it. so on the one hand, he was first kind of touting himself as this more electable alternative to donald trump, and then donald trump in some ways has been able

to outflank him with kind of quote/unquote moderates by kind of calling into question the abortion bans that his own administration has made possible. it's a phony argument, but he's kind of put desantis into a corner where he can't abandon anti-aborg extremism. but he also can't win a general election with it. >> and you know what donald trump didn't do when he was president? sine a six-week abortion ban. he can say i didn't do that. he can say he's to the left of him and to the right of others, and no cussing on tv. i apologize for that. he just infuriates me in a specific way. michelle and susan, thank you for pointing out that he won by subtraction. >> still ahead, the clock is still ticking on raising the debt ceiling as biden suggests he's willing to negotiate with the republican hostage takers. some risks.

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requiring work requirements on social safety net programs including s.n.a.p. food aid, aid to low income families with children, and medicaid, a program that benefits america's poor. people who maga republican matt gaetz referred to as couch potatoes who shouldn't be subsidized by heart working americans. the newest version of ronald reagan's racist and derogatory welfare queen myth that jump started the republican party's war on the working poor. as david firestone writes in "the new york times," demands own the debt ceiling are a vehicle for republicans to go after the people they have long demonized. these largely racist attacks including the one on the table, persistently ignore the well mentioned fact that a vast majority of the people receiving these benefits are already working or are unable to work. you heard that right. work requirements are already the law. federal law requires adults under 50 without dependents to work at least 20 hours a week to receive s.n.a.p. food aid

benefits. and the majority of medicaid recipients are working. 61% of them in 2021. and those who weren't working were taking care of small children, disabled, retired, or in school. so what republicans are pretending to negotiate on is nothing except sticking it to the working poor. as usual, the cruelty is the point. joining me is ali velshi, msnbc chief correspondent and host of velshi. this has been a long thing since reagan. and let's just play reagan real quick. >> one social program, food stamps, had grown from a $70 million experimental program in 1965 to an $11.25 billion program in 1981. the government was draining off america's productivity and placing an enormous drag on the economy. >> our work program says that welfare should be a temporary helping hand, not a way of life.

>> i think it's good for the poor to begin to replace welfare with the work ethic, and we ought to recognize that. >> it infuriates me because they're talking about people who already work, they just don't make enough money to survive. >> we don't have a work ethic problem in the united states. this is the country where people don't use their vacation, they don't use their paid time off, and we have a 3.5% unemployment rate. we don't have a work problem. but that said, this is just targeting the working poor, which is what happened during covid when we were negotiating for months those relief packages and people didn't want people to get $600 without proving all sorts of things and jumping through all sorts of hoops. we have a federal reserve that can issue debt to companies with no approval from anyone, but god forbid you give a human $600, a working american. you mentioned it, either people already work or they're taking care of kids or they're disabled. medicaid, it's for people who don't have the means. i think the honest thing to do here is to simply say we would like to cut this many billion from the budget because that's

what republicans want to do, and we just want to take it away from these people. it's not -- kevin mccarthy and ilk are saying that if you put work requirements on, it encourages work. it encourages people to get to work, which is very much the language you heard from newt gingrich or rudy giuliani or ronald reagan. it's simply not true. i'm a numbers guy. i don't have a dog in this fight. i'm a canadian, so i believe people should get health care. all of those things can be achieved. this doesn't solve anything. if it actually did, that would be interesting. if you said causing these people to have to work 80 hours a month or 40 hours a week to get their benefits would change the dynamic, i would be all for it. it's just not true. let's be hoppest. let's just say for people are where the cuts come from. >> and they dislike them. they tried this in arkansas. they put these stringent work requirements in. all that happened is that it

didn't even appreciably change the number of people employed but 17,000 people lost their benefits. >> that is correct. that will work. if you cause people to have these work requirements what you will not do is see an increase in employment. you will see a cut in expenditures. because you'll just eliminate people. so think about that. you're taking people off s.n.a.p., off food stamps, and medicaid. whatcountry is looking for fewer people to have enough. we have a huge child poverty problem, a hunger problem in this country which we should not have. there's no other western developed country that has that. why would we be taking these last things away from people. >> you think about the people who are getting s.n.a.p. and also work, where we are, one of the worst countries in terms of poverty in the world. these are people, say a small hairdresser or they work at walmart, they work in a convenience store, but they don't make enough money to actually afford health care. that is who is on medicaid. they have not said one of their changes, one of their

improvements is to say that we want to make the work requirements not just under 50 but up to 55. it's even harder for a 55-year-old to get a job than a 45-year-old. >> let's think about this. in much of the country, not the case in new york city, but the federal minimum wage is $7.25. assume you work 40 hours a week. that's a grand total, $15,000 a year. that is your income. >> what are you doing with that? and you cannot afford health care with that. so they should just admit they hate medicaid. >> if you work for something close to the minimum wage in this country, you have to get aid to provide food for your children or get medical care, or you get diabetes and heart disease and get rushed to the emergency and then you eat up from a societal perspective four times the amount of money than if you actually had health care and went to a doctor. nun of this works. the math of none of this makes sense. you save a billion dollars here, it will ultimately be eaten up somewhere else.

>> is there somewhere in the budget you could find lots and lots of savings? i'm thinking the pentagon might have money. >> there's pentagon and taxes. a lot of our deficit is cutting taxes on the very rich. you cut taxes, if you look at all our accumulated deficits which end up being the national debt, far more of it comes from military spending, war, or tax cuts. >> the stingiest states in this country when it comes to medicaid are red states and they're the poorest states with the exception of new mexico, the ten poorest states in this country are states with low taxes and no medical care for the poor. think about that. ali velshi, thank you. coming up, ali is hosting the last word tonight at 10:00 p.m. eastern. then be hur to tune in to ali's show velshi tomorrow morning at 10:00 a.m. eastern. it's essential viewing. do not miss it. >> okay, my interview with chasten buttigieg is coming up next. before we go to break, i want to show you the powerful scene today in harlem. civil rights leaders, local

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save 50% on the sleep number limited edition smart bed. plus, special financing. only at sleep number. chasten buttigieg is a father, teacher, author, and michigander, but many of you have probably heard he's also the husband of transportation secretary pete buttigieg. in today's america, teachers are under attack for watch they teach, what they say, and who they are. the lgbtq kids they teach are

also under attack. not allowed to speak up and express themselves. it is amid this toxic and hate-filled world that chasten buttigieg has published an adaptation of his recent memoir, specifically for young adults, titled, i have something to tell you. he speaks of his experience growing up in rural conservative michigan and how he was able to find his voice and ultimately embrace his real self with honestly and compassion. he explains how complicated that journey was, writing it was more important for me to protect myself than to live authentically. that's a situation many lgbtq plus people find themselves in. everyone needs to come out on their own terms. and in high school, i just knew that wasn't a safe option. this book serves as a beacon of hope and a guide to all of the kids across america that are feeling silenced, bullied, and shunned. especially the ones in states like florida, texas, and arkansas. and chasten buttigieg joins me now. how are you?

and thanks for being here. >> hey, it's great to be with you. thanks for having me. >> of course. i think people who have seen you do interviews, especially seeing you with mayor pete, they know you as, like, the fun buttigieg. not that your husband isn't fun, but you're like the fun buttigieg. secretary pete, i should say, i'm used to calling him mayor pete. but it's painful i think for a lot of people to think of you as not happy, but you have written about not fitting in, not feeling like you fit in with your brothers who were super athletic in high school, a high school of 1500, you didn't know of knee other students or teachers who were openly gay and didn't come out until after you graduated. you also write about, presenting a version of yourself, i presented a version of me that i performed for my family, church, and classmates. talk about that. of having to not be you. >> yeah, i mean, i spent 18 years of my life believing i was the only gay person in the

world. i had very few role models. there was ellen on tv, there was "will and grace," but i write in the book about how i was terrified of "will and grace" because i thought if i laughed, my family might figure out my secret. we grew up in a time and place where it was simply unsafe to be your most authentic self. i have teachers in high school who have since come out and told a story of having to drive three hours to see any movie with a queer character because they were afraid someone might see them in the movie theater and they would lose their job. we just had to present ourselves in a safe way that could be accepted by the social norms. and i want young people to read this book and to knee that they're perfectly fine just the way they are. there's nothing wrong with them. and there are millions of people out here backing them up. and it really does get better. and it will continue to get better if we all commit ourselves to that work. >> you know, you're slightly younger than me, but it's sort of, i guess shocking for a lot of people to think in the "will and grace" era, which felt like a much more inclusive era, that

you were still feeling like you were unable to come out, but what might it have meant to you in high school if you had a gay teacher, if you had known there was another person in school, that there had been a club like you talked about going back to your school and now there's an lgbtq and allies club. what might that have meant to you? >> yeah, i love my parents deeply. they're staunch advocates of ours. but i tell people often, i'm out on book tour right now and talking to people about how my life would have changed dramatically had i had a ten-second conversation with them when i was younger, had they sat me down and said, we just want you to know we love you no matter what, no matter who you are, we love you. elieve you are perfect in god's image, whether you're gay, straight, or anything else. you will always have a roof over your head, you will always have two parents who love you here. and of course, my parents love me, but we just didn't talk about lgbtq people at all growing up.

and i imagine what my life could have been like had we had that conversation when i was young. i could have poured all my energy and time into things i really enjoyed rather than spending so much time consumed with this fear that i would lose everything and lose everyone if they found out this little fact about me. >> you know, we also know that the suicide rates, the suicidal ideation rates are much higher for young lgbtq people, suicide is the second leading cause of death among young people age 10 to 24, lgbtq youth are more than four times as likely to attempt suicide than their peers, per the trevor project. they estimate more than 1.8 million lgbtq youth seriously consider suicide each year in the u.s., and at least one tempts it every 45 seconds, 45% seriously consider attempting suicide in the past year. and yet, in places like florida, in places like arkansas, in places like louisiana, tennessee, your book is probably going to be banned because they

might not have an adult they know who is gay or who is trans or who is a lesbian, but this book could actually be their adult, right? what do you make of the fact it's highly likely that your book will be banned in the states where students already feel the most alone? >> yeah, i'm under no illusion of the political landscape. i was a former middle school teacher so i know my odd indianapolis. i wrote a completely age appropriate book, so if the book is banned, i think that's just politics. and to the young people, i say i'm so sorry that we hold you to a higher standard than those people in positions of power. that the people in positions of power at the state house, especially in places like florida, they are not focused on solving real world issues and making your life better. the statistics and the data you just showed from the trevor project, they ignore those realities, because they do not care, and they are more focused on power and clicks and

attention and money than improving their lives and keep you alive. so two young people i say, there are millions of people out here backing you up and fighting to make sure that you not only stick around and know that you are loved and cared for but that you can start focusing on other things and living your life enjoying what it is like to be a teenager rather than having to hold adults in positions of power accountable. >> yeah, indeed. well, thank you so much for being here. how are the kids, real quick? i know that you and secretary pete, i will stop calling him a repeat, how are your adorable children? >> they're fantastic. we're coming up on to, and so when i'm on the road i miss them very much. there is nothing like coming home to two giggling toddlers at the end of the day. and that is what the important work of this book is like, creating a future where we won't have to keep having these conversations like this. >> about baby is a different kind of child you have to raise, and i'm gonna tell you the

truth, they're gonna be interesting. i'm just gonna leave it at interesting. so, enjoy. >> it's getting crazy. >> it's going to get crazy, but it's also wonderful. chasten buttigieg, thank you so much. here's the book, it is called i have something to tell you for young adults. i hope that everyone gets to read it, especially in the states where they needed the most, and look, people should send them to their good friends who have children who are lgbtq if they can't get it in school. thank you very much. and don't go anywhere, because who won the week, straight ahead. raight ahead. being me. keep being you... and ask your healthcare provider about the number one prescribed h-i-v treatment, biktarvy. biktarvy is a complete, one-pill, once-a-day treatment used for h-i-v in many people whether you're 18 or 80. with one small pill, biktarvy fights h-i-v to help you get to undetectable—and stay there whether you're just starting or replacing your current treatment. research shows that taking h-i-v treatment as prescribed and getting to and staying undetectable

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of another week, which is means it's time to play our favorite game, i guess, who won the week? and joining me, and to bring some positivity because they're so much bad news out there, is a wonderful natasha brown, cofounder of hundreds of black voters matter fund. bring some positivity, my sister. i know somebody had to win the week. please tell me who. >> absolutely. i think there are two 89 year olds who were born on the same day at the same time who have taught me more about feminism than ever. and one happens to be my aunt, ella wilma in selma, alabama, and gloria steinem, who is, who has been a pioneer for feminism. and so i just want to lift up the women who have laid the foundation, who are still doing the work. this week we celebrated 50

years of the ms. foundation and all the million dollars of the miss foundation has given to women. and so i think it one week the women of america, particularly those women who are standing on the frontlines, taking care of their families, and also having a message around -- >> i love that. those women are both iconic. your auntie is an icon as much as gloria steinem. but you know, listen, my sister, those pictures, we need to give the origin story of those pictures, because my who won the week's. you please put those pictures back up. those were from oh, that is glorious, the maze foundations women a vision award, tuesday night, i happen to know you were here in the nyc and you received an award the woman a vision award from your good friend toronto book burke, the founder of the me too movement. and somebody called meghan markle, oh yes, the dozen gotchas of success also received a war. tell me what it was like to meet her, to be on that stage,

to receive this incredible ward. >> she is a beautiful person, inside and out. extremely gracious. i think that her words meant allotted. the end of the day the work that she is doing, the work that the other woman and honorees are doing, i think that is what's going to change the world. i'm constantly saying it won't be our politics, it will be our humanity that changes the world. and if anybody can change the world and get the world right i think it'll be. them >> i think if anybody can get the world right i think it will be you, natasha brown. your ohshiro. you're out there fighting and grinding to make sure everybody can vote, the people have just precious franchise and i'm handing you your fat flowers right here on this show. you are my hero, my sister. so congratulations on receiving that award. i want to know how you feel as tirana handed you that award. >> it was absolutely beautiful. it came at a time that, absolutely beautiful, to be celebrated by your peers, in this beautiful space, the ms.

launch the campaign, 100 billion dollar campaign that they're gonna raise 100 million, and are halfway there. and all of those resources in the support organizations, and support women and girls, how can i not be so honored that they would acknowledge the work that i have doing, with a southern back like, girls the consortium and we also have a campaign for under billion dollars that will be given to women and girls, and i'm so honored and excited. women get the work done. >> you all know what did happen, right? i asked the sister how she felt receiving this awarded she turns around and talked about the good that are the people are doing in all the wonderful things other people are doing. and if i can be shallow, my dear, you looked real beautiful. that dress was everything. that hair was everything. that look was everything. you are everything. latosha brown, you won the week. thank you so much for coming. and that's tonight's read out. all in with chris hayes starts now. all in wit>> tonight in on all . >> women will die, children are