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burden and heritage of all of what black americans do, and yet it's foisted upon the shoulders. when a cop pulls their son over, they're not going to say oh, you're nigerian, oh, you can go. you are black, and so they have to contend with it even though they may not initially identify with some of the same issues that left over from jim crow and et cetera. >> that does it for us. we are back though monday morning at 6 am eastern. have a wonderful rest of your weekend. weekend. >> this is the katie phang show live from msnbc world headquarters and new york city. we have lots of news to cover and lots of questions to answer, so let's get started. money on his mind? the debt ceiling steel. -- looming large over president biden's trip to the g7 summit
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in japan. we are live on capitol hill with a look at where the talks stand right now. plus, let it go. for governor ron desantis cost his state a billion dollar project and thousands of jobs all because he is fighting a losing war with disney. how that disney drama and defending diversity will impact his presidential bid with desantis just days away from making it official. and later, tourist trap. america's gun crisis stretching far beyond its borders, a 700 advisories -- seven countries issue advisories on visiting the united states. what it means for america's seven trillion dollar tourist industry. >> and a good saturday morning to you all. i am katie phang. we begin overseas in japan at the g7 summit where russia's 15 month war in ukraine takes center stage. just hours ago, ukrainian
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president volodymyr zelenskyy touchdown and hiroshima to meet with president biden and leaders of some of the world's most powerful democracies. zelenskyy's arrival comes just a day after biden approved plans for ukrainian pilots to train to fly f-16 fighter jets. the united states and other g7 leaders are also announcing a new slew of sanctions on russia to starve its quote, warm. jeanne see white house correspondent mike -- joins me live from here seem, japan. mike, good morning. what can we expect from president zelenskyy's trip to the g7 summit in president biden's plans to meet with him? >> well katie, we have seen, over the course of a now 15 16 months of this ukraine conflict, just how powerful president zelenskyy's personal diplomacy has been in keeping support flowing to his country as it fights off russia's invasion, and this is really a powerful moment not just for presents lewinsky to speak with the g7 leaders as a whole, but to
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speak to some of the individual leaders of other countries who have been invited to participate as well. we've seen just over the past week presidents lewinsky traveling throughout europe. he had been to the united kingdom, to france, to germany, to italy, and met with pope francis even. yesterday, he was in saudi arabia meeting with representatives from the arab league, and today, already, we have seen him with a series of one-on-one meetings, including i think india's prime minister modi. and he is a country, yes or democracy, yes one with a close alliance with united states, but one that has maintained some of those commercial ties with russia that is continue to provide revenue in the form of oil sales. and so this is an opportunity for president zelenskyy to continue face to face diplomacy to keep that support flowing. and yesterday, it was a significant move by president biden as he told the other g7 leaders that he would endorse this plan to begin training ukrainian pilots to use those fighter jets. national security adviser jake sullivan saying that they have received commitments from ukraine that they would not be used for offensive purposes
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against russia, but to help give ukraine an additional piece of support and offensive power in the skies as they brace for that coming spring offensive. >> mike, what else is going to be on the presidents agenda? what are the key major issues he will be focusing on on this g7 summit? >> well katie, president biden is wrapping up what's been a jam-packed saturday here in carolina. the day at which the looming specter of china, that is been the real focus here. the president participating in a meeting of g7 leaders with representatives from the developing world. with a call in diplomatic circles the global south to try and provide an alternative to what is been known as china's belt and road policy. this is one of which they provide a level of infrastructure support to developing countries that badly need that financial infusion, but one of those countries have begun to realize overtime is come with some significant strings attached in the form of significant debt obligations to china that they cannot always
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live up to. so these democracies, president biden leading a effort to provide similar kinds of infrastructure support to these countries with a better deal, as they say, without this kind of strings attached. it is a significant effort represent of a broader focus here to try to counter china's efforts to grow its influence throughout the world. you can't ignore, katie, the looming specter of that debt ceiling debate back home. we have heard for the first time today in a couple days president biden be able to give something of a status report and how those talks are going. he is saying that he is not about worried about the possibility of the default, but also that he thinks that there is still the possibility of something decent, as he put, it to get done. >> you know mike, strings attached and debt obligations. that does sound like it is being mirrored over where you are. mike memoli, think you, i know you're busy this morning. thank you. and president biden will actually end his g7 trip early tomorrow to head back to washington d.c. in the hopes of ending the debt ceiling gridlock. republicans in the white house
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resuming negotiations just last night, but there are no signs of progress. that meeting came just hours after the -- louisiana congressman and lead republican negotiator derrick graves paused talks with the biden ministration because they were quote, not productive. gop is playing a dangerous game here, and treasury secretary janet yellen family alarm once again this week, warning that the united states is at the seriousness of defaulting on its that by june 1st. that leaves congress was just a few work days left to come to an agreement. nbc news capitol hill correspondent julie tsirkin is gonna be joining me now. julie, good morning. let's talk about the gop's lead negotiator. when you have these type of negotiations, this is representative garrett graves. he was never elected to house leadership, never served as a committee chair, and nor does he sit on the he committees that oversee the u.s. budget. so truly, why do we have how speaker kevin mccarthy using him of all people to hammer out this important deal.
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>> katie, all of this point you made may be true, but what could be even more difficult and serving as committee chair in this congress is actually being the voice that speaks for all of the 222 members and trying to appease all of their different positions. a third of which, at least, believe that these negotiations should not even be taking place. so garret graves is actually one of the top allies of's speaker mccarthy. he's been in congress for about four terms. he's never served in these on these committees that you speak of, but he is the head of mccarthy's so-called elected leadership team. these are folks really came together and helped him get the gavel. garret graves, a congressman from louisiana, was seen as somebody who is instrumental and bridging the gap between the fiscal conservatives, the hard right of mccarthy's conference, to some of the more moderate members. and that is why he is in the room. that is really his role here, to try and appease all of these different factions that we are seeing forming under kevin mccarthy, and some are even
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suggesting that he could be the fall guy if things go bad. but look, the bottom line here, i was here late last night, graves does not usually talk to the press. he's not very chatty and open in the process. he did say that they were having more of a candid discussion and the negotiations last night. but we're looking forward hopefully seeing negotiators back here on capitol hill in the next few hours to resume sayings in earnest. >> you know julie, speaker of the house, kevin mccarthy is stressing that there is no debt ceiling deal without expanded work requirements for individuals receiving federal aid. biden suggested that he might be open to some work requirements. and so what are progressives actually saying on this particular issue? >> yeah, biden drew the line and medicaid, saying that he would accept some kind of work requirements potentially in private, because, again republicans, at the end of the day, they were able to coalesce around the bill. they can see, that whether you like that idea or not. they're able to come to the table with something that pass the house of representatives, which is a daunting task from the outset. and so now, they're at that
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negotiating table, because republicans are pushing for spending cuts, and they see some of that coming out of work requirements. not at this point, it will not make up the bulk of those spending cuts that they are pushing for. at the very same time, they are still at the table trying to push them through. so the biden administration of course needs to try and appease progressives here who did completely against any kind of work requirements, increase restrictions essentially for americans to be qualified for social safety net benefits. but as we see here, negotiators at the table, this is definitely one of the issues they're looking at. we are told something like food snaps or -- food stamps or snap benefits could be something the democrats could except here, but that is just not clear this hour. >> yeah, and i want to emphasize, really as you have to and your reporting, this is debt that is already been approved. this is already come due, this is not for future spending. julie tsirkin, thank you so much are joining us live this morning. and we want to provide a quick update on the story we have been following very closely on the show. britney griner. she is finally back on the
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hardwood, making her official return to the wnba last night at the wnba kicked off its 2023 season. griner came out of the gate blazing, launching a patch -- who needed a three pointer for the team's first basket. she score for 25 minutes, scoring 18 points, six rebounds, and four blocked shots. despite her best efforts, the phoenix mercury did lose the los angeles sparks 94 to 71. in coming up, lonnie ideations. a former employee drops a bombshell. 10 million dollar lawsuit on former new york mayor turned trump crony an election denier really giuliani. the accusers attorney will walk through the claims of sexual assaults and peddling presidential pardons next. keep it right here on msnbc. (man) it's pretty simple. i kinda just want things the way i want them. (woman) i want a network that won't let me down. even up here! (woman #2) with an unlimited plan that's truly right for me.
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personal attorney rudy giuliani is at the center of a new 10 million dollar lawsuit. and the 69-page complaint, noel dempsey says she works for giuliani the last two years of the trump presidency. claim that giuliani sexually assaulted and harassed. her and refused to pay her wages. dempsey alleges giuliani made quote, sexist, racist, and antisemitic remarks. she has recordings of numerous interactions with him. another bombshell revelation bentley says giuliani discuss delayed presidential pardons for $2 million with the money to be split between himself and donald trump. she also claims that giuliani spoke about plans to overturn the 2020 presidential election results. according to the lawsuit, giuliani told on the, quote, the trump team were claiming voter fraud, and trump actually won the election. giuliani has denied all of these allegations through a spokesperson. joining me now is noel dempsey's attorney just in kelson of abrams spencer man,
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justin, it's great to have you here. we spoke about this earlier, we joked, good lawyers, we have a copy of the complaint right here. i want to start out by saying, number one, i think it's a great complaint because it has so much detail. i would point out to our viewers, it's a verified complaint, which i, i find that to be amazing because a lot of people, a lot of people that suit, specially these kind of claims, they don't want to put under penalties of perjury allegations. being verified means, noel says, i believe -- everything i put in here is true. >> that is exactly right. she stands behind every word of this complaint, obviously, a very thorough investigation is done before this was pared and filed. it also means mr. giuliani, when he answers the complaint, we'll have to answer under oath. >> that's a wrinkle that our viewers need to understand. because it's a verified complaint, when giuliani and who's in response he has to do under oath? >> that's correct. >> let's talk about the
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underlying allegations. in the break, i was disgusted about i was read, giuliani praying on a woman who came out of a abusive relationship and if the bad litigation with her ex partner. looking for employment and he seeks her out to hire her. over the course of her employment, not only does he not pay here but he sexually assaulted her. to back up her claims though, this is more than just he said she said, what does she have in terms of the goods? >> we went into a lot of detail in this complaint about the evidence that underlies many after allegations. mr. giuliani gave her permission to record the interactions, she alleges, in fact, sometimes even took the phone out of her hand and hit the record button himself. as a result, she has a lot of audio recordings, many of them are expressly reference and complaints, and a very graphic at upsetting but the paint a compelling picture, which is why we went into so much detail
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here. >> in this lawsuit as well, noel, we talked about it in the intro right now, she actually has evidence of conversations with rudy giuliani about plans to overturn the presidential election results. justin, this is not a case about that, it's not about 16. i believe some of the conversations about lowballs lawsuit is taking a side turn but that focuses on what happened to the wall as an employee of rudy giuliani. >> that's exactly right. we anticipated that mr. giuliani might argue, as he is doing now, she was not an employee. to explain some of the evidence that, she fact, was working for him and with them, we went into detail about what she was doing on many individual days, many conversations she had with him. some of these conversations are the one that he just mentioned. you know, they are there to show that they are working with mr. giuliani, mr. giuliani was involving her and her plans to generate revenue. that's consistent with her --
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that she was a business person development for him. >> because they put this out, is she prepared to testify before a special counsel jackson in the grand jury? is she prepared to deal with fulton county fani willis because of the information with julie ridge -- regionally on a? >> she's prepared to tell this in whatever form she is tasked to do that, to justify this under oath, it's a verified complaint, if you asked to do it again, i believe she. well >> rudy giuliani, as alleged by noelle and a lawsuit, gave her access to his emails. in fact, he, according to the lawsuit, imported the password so she could have access to in excess of 23,000 emails. i know, throughout the course of the detailed complaint, it's very date specific. it's not like on, or upon information unbelief. it says on this date, this happened. are the emails that you have reviewed through the course of your investigation and preparation of the lawsuit on behalf of morale corroborating
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a lot of the information contained within the lawsuit? >> yes, emails, other evidence, part of the work she was doing with him was to make sure the records were kept in a way that they can be organized and understood. she has detailed record, she has temporarily detailed records. she is aware of specific dates. >> in addition to this, i find this to be very interesting, there are businesses of rudy giuliani as well that are targets of this lawsuit. not just giuliani. why did it go beyond him individually? why sue the businesses as well? >> her allegations was that she did work for mr. giuliani and the companies. he really did not maintain the separation between himself and the lawsuit, she alleges that the companies were run as mr. giuliani's personal -- that the employees that work at these companies think about, talk about themselves as working for mr. giuliani. because she was doing business
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development work on different cuts of projects, the project she was working on might end up that one or the other if the companies generated revenue. as a matter of fact, she was working for all of this. >> i've got 30 seconds left, but i didn't want you to have the last word on this, what would accountability look like for noelle identity? trying to get some justice in this world? >> we know mr. giuliani will not accept responsibility for what he did here. accountability in the suit will look similar to the accountability that they maintained. here are the juries, hear the evidence, the facts, the testimony, and make a determination about who is telling the truth. >> justin kelton, i invite you to come back when you have more significant developments in this case. service of mr. giuliani, i'm curious to see how he answers, i'm sure he will deny everything. i appreciate you taking the time to join us, i appreciate you being here. thank you for being here.
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desantis used the new college of florida and sarasota as a backdrop to sign three new bills that got funding for diversity, equity, and inclusion programs and florida's public universities. that move has seven new college students taking matters in their own hands. graduating class created in what they call in alternative commencement in protest of desantis's hostile takeover of the school. phil rights attorney and activists mild wiley did not hold back when delivering the events keynote each address. >> you have had to be strong in the face of a few who would tell you that you can't read what you want to read. that you can't speak what you want to speak. that you should get in line with an ideology that is not yours. and call that, call that freedom? >> attorney and college professor, and president and ceo of the leadership
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conference in civil and human rights maya wylie. i would like to say you are also my friend as well. i'm honored for you to be here. maya, anyone listening to your commencement address would have been inspired, but it was the alternative commencement at the new college, what was the energy like when you were there on thursday? >> i have to say, this is such an important thing to know about who the new college is, who their students are, who their faculty are. it was simply joyous. and i think that's what they wanted. they wanted to show, you know, we are just people who care about each other that are in a community, a learning community. and they were determined, determined to celebrate themselves in the face of students who have been called names by trustees appointed by the governor. names, bright? people, adults who are supposed to demonstrate to them that they are cared for.
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and their ability to be who they are is valued, having been called drug, use weirdos by a sitting trustee. their whole goal was to be who they are in their own commencement proceeding, and that is exactly what they did. >> for people who understand, there was a, quote official commitment that was going on that had the board of trustees, that was installed by desantis, the administration, et cetera. and on the parallel alternative commencement you were speaking at. there was never any sense of bitterness, resentment, anger in the alternative commencement? they were joyous and happy to have the opportunity to do so? >> they were insistent that they have joy in their resistance. they were very clear that they were resisting the attack on their ability to have the educational freedom they wanted. the attack on the ability to be who they are. remember, a lot of the students
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of lgbtq students. they are transfusions in that audience. and their parents, it is not that they were being silent in the face of feeling attacked for being a warm, inclusive, inviting, educational place. it's that they insisted that they were not going to show up with anger, but with joy for being in community with one another. . that is its own compelling counter point to the next day. >> let's take a quick listen on to what governor desantis said earlier this week i'm a student who want to pursue dei programs. let's take a listen. >> bill is saying, some of these new subjects like critical race theory, some of these other dei infused courses and majors, florida is getting out of that. if you want to do things like
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gender ideology, go to berkeley, go to some of these other places. that is fine. >> you're a professor, my father, my late father with a college professor for decades, brain drain is a real threat in the state of florida. that would involve people coming to florida, learning, and i'm leaving. now people like the santa saying don't even come here, we will warn you off from coming here, go somewhere else. it's anger, it makes me angry to listen to the narrow minded missed at the state's governor is promoting in terms of education. >> you are absolutely right about the brain and drain. this is worse though than that. much worse. because what desantis is doing in that statement is taking an ideological position, not an academic to one. and ideological position that says, if you are learning gender studies, if you are learning african american studies, if you have a program in a college that says we are
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going to work on ensuring that we are a diverse place, that all of our voices and experiences are heard and respected, and call that off limits in a public lease funded institution. one that he is trying to model on a private christian school in michigan. what i'm really sick -- what he's really saying is i'm going to pretend that this is not ideological. but actually, it is. it is an attack on freedom of education. it's an attack that says we will tell faculty members that they can't teach, despite their training and education in the ways fits the mission the institution, and we will threaten their very careers if they do. that's not freedom. >> you are always inspired. maya, what were your parting words during the alternative commencement to the students, to give them hope, to tell them
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there are people like you that our allies, that are not in their backyard, but in other places supporting them. >> two things. i reminded them that every single expansion of civil rights of democracy that we have in this country have required a student movement. and what they are doing is emulating that history. the second, i quoted dr. martin luther king jr., the night before his assassination, for standing up for workers, for standing up for racial justice, in memphis tennessee, he said, it's only in darkness that you can see the stars, and i called them the stars in our darkness. and thank them for shining the light. >> maya wylie. they were blessed, i said out loud plumber publicly, they were blessed to have you, that's exactly what they need to hear. >> what we all have to say to them, we are blessed to have them.
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>> thank you, maya wylie, my friend, my hero, my inspiration for joining me, i appreciate you as always. the quick program tonight, another group of incredible women, a special hour of american voices with the hashtag sisters in law, the hashtag women -- geelong, thanks kimberly atkins store, and joyce vance. they will be live onset with alicia menendez. they will talk about everything from abortion rights to the controversy around justice clarence thomas. and of course, the mountain of legal drama facing donald trump. american voices at 60 am eastern right here on msnbc. and coming up, travel advisory, america's gun obsession, have a ripple effect across the world. he has seven foreign nations warning their citizens to think twice about traveling to the united states. as the center summer tours of seasons heats up, we have more of the katie phang show ahead. keep it right here on msnbc. n msnbc.
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and all of 2022, there were a total of 36 mass killings of gunfire in the u.s., that's an average of three per month. if that number of deaths skiers you, or upsets, you then you are not alone. in fact, those sentiments are shared by the millions of international tourists who visit the united states each year. they are seeing the same headlines we are about mass shootings at dance halls, malls, banks, and it's giving some of them second thought about taking their next vacation here. in fact, at least seven countries have told their citizens to be careful when visiting america. travel advisories partly due to our rise in gun violence. join me now, noah prince, be national political editor. noah, thank you for being here. you know, the state department issued a level one to level four in terms of the travel advisory. level one being, it's okay. level for being, you should not go there. are these other countries legitimately saying, you definitely should not come to the united states? >> i would not liken this to
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when the u.s. do when you visit the caribbean country. you may see a headline and say bahamas, the medical republic, jamaica they have some crime issues. but in large, it is not prohibit people from booking their vacation there. but if you saw a headline ever single week about a crime in one of the caribbean countries, you would probably rethink it. that's what's starting to happen in america. our good headlines are resonating more in places like japan, europe, australia. some of the drivers of the international tourism economy, and the concern is, if we go in a direction where that is a daily headline in that area, some travelers might think twice. >> conversely, we, as the u.s., are doing a disservice to foreign and visitors, to tourists, because we downplayed it for purposes of trying to achieve better tourism statistics? >> it's hard to get people in the tourism industry to talk about it. they don't want to appear at headlines, they don't want to appear in foreign headlines. i talked, i spoke to a half
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dozen tourism groups, and alum reached back with any sort of comments. in terms of disservice, i mean, america, by and large, is one of the safest countries in the world for big tourism places. but we do have a gun problem compared to other developed countries. our overall crime is pretty much in line, we have numbers, i was looking at this earlier, we have 41 gun homicides per million people in america. that is 100 times higher than japan's numbers. 200 times higher than the uk. but the overall crime numbers are pretty much in line with all of the other big developed countries in the world, so, if you're an american tourism expert, someone in the industry, you need to do a better job in the wake of all of these headlines in convincing international tourists that is it is safe to come here. because it is generally safe to visit america. >> we are talking about perceptions, perceptions don't match reality. what do you know in terms of what you looked into, what did you discover in terms of whether or not perception is meeting reality?
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>> the problem is, for american tourism, we are seeing more headlines in recent years, largely because the types of shootings, the school shootings in particular have really changed to the media coverage abroad. that is leaving tourists, potential tourists, travelers really befuddled in places like europe where we draw so many tourists. talking to travelers, i have been talking to academics. i want to show you what one professor told me, trying to explain how they cannot fathom american gun culture. >> sure, take a listen. >> when a bit personal, we don't understand how one lobby, in particular, the gun lobby has such a powerful voice in what is going on. in what appears on the side of this world. >> the freeze, completely mad, used by multiple people i spoke to in the uk. they cannot fathom how a sophisticated wealthy country like the u.s. continues to maintain the status quo with the gun laws.
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>> i can answer that question for the gentleman and others, it's the gop that refuses. i want to switch gears, we are looking at international to coming into the u.s., but i want to talk about inside the united states. from the state of florida, we are usually inundated with tourists. lately, you have seen the aclu, the naacp, and a new immigration law being passed by desantis. it is the league of united latin american citizens issue in travel advisories. actually saying don't go to a state like florida because of its lax gun laws. because of the anti woke laws. because of the hatred against certain minorities. have you also seen a and attacked the trends when it comes to that, travel advisories within the u.s. tried to limit travel, or interstate commerce into other states? >> from the people i talked to, it seems like it's a little more, a resonates louder in political surface circles than it does with an execution is.
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florida is -- lou is a threat internationally, for a few things happening in some states in america. constitutional carry, which is now, and half of the country, that is actually something that has a lot of international concern. it can't fathom how americans gold gun culture continues to maintain the status quo, but they really don't understand how someone can walk into a store, buy it a k style weapon without a background check. some of the loopholes we have. they do not understand that. there is a perception abroad that guns are everywhere in america. we know, most states don't have open carry, some states do. it's not like everybody is walking down the street with a weapon. because more states are loosening gun laws. in more places are allowing permit-less carry like florida. that is becoming more of a concern for some international travel in groups. >> i can tell you this, anecdotally, people i spoke to this and we are not going to florida, and we are not giving money to rhonda scent is if we keep doing what we are doing.
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despite it being a blockbuster year for aapi representation in hollywood, the numbers show that there is still major room for improvement. you report from milton reveals eight in ten asian americans feel that they are underrepresented in the tv and movie industry as compared to other races. however, there are glimmers of hope, that same report finds
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streaming platforms like netflix have more than twice the representation on broadcast, and three times more representation than their cable counterparts. while michelle yeoh and key way huang's historic attack academy award winds help boost aapi representation, it's clear we need to see more of it. joining me now is nancy wang, you sociologist and author, real inequality, hollywood actors, and racism. nancy, it is doctor, doctor nancy wang union is joining us. between nbc's own picchi peacock, hulu, that flicks the streamers are leading the charge of aapi representation, look and broadcast and networks do to change the ground here? >> they need to take chances on new shows, they need to really consider the asian american population in terms of the thought that they are watching, they are following shows that
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they will want to see themselves represented on screen. they watch on screaming, we know the broad cross shows they have streaming options as well, i think they would be tuning into broadcasts more if they saw that the shoes actually looked like them. >> nancy, earlier this week, something you tweeted stood out to me, you had a representation matters moment but on a panel you are, on a deal with life from 1970 -- about the vietnam war called full metal jacket. that movie and several other films have portrayed a very tiled troops of eight asian women as a stereotypical sex worker. talk to us about these harmful stereotypes. especially against asian american woman in hollywood. do you find there has been any type of evolution about how asian women are pro trade? you did a report found to be fascinating, it said of the 1200 top grossing films in 2000 and 7 to 2018, api women were
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far more likely to be depicted in sexy clothes and partially naked than any male counterpart. >> the objectification of asian woman has long been hollywood's go to. and so, what we are experiencing, think about the atlanta shooting from a couple of years ago, the temptress is that we're sex workers, you know, all of us, no matter what occupation we occupy, that that is the lens through which we are seen, and that is partly because of movies like full metal jacket, even though it's an old movie. the line of love you long time, it's disturbing, almost every women's proposition was such a line. something like everything everywhere all at once with michelle yeoh playing the mom, and stephanie xu, these are counter images that are not about objectification, but no longer the objects, we are the subject of our own stories. and we are fully human, not
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something the two games at, sending to exist for the white male gaze. >> nancy, we talked about representation matters, and obviously, we are in visual culture, we see things, we want to be those things. i think behind the camera is important. your report also noted, of the top 1300 films from 2007 to 2019, there were only 3.5% were api directors. 2.5% producers. 3.3% of calf casting directors. at 2.9 directors i've creatives. do you think there could be a change in front of the camera, that there are significant moves made behind the camera? >> absolutely. we have authentic storytelling that happens when we have creatures of color. asian americans behind the camera. their experiences, they know what they are, they can translate that on screen. think about the daniels, daniel cohen telling the story of everywhere everything all at once, a half century of asian
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american immigrant family in a way that we have not seen before. it's super popular, it's hot box office hit, as well as oscar winner. >> nancy, i do want to note, aapi month coincides with mental health awareness. we are already dealing with a rise of racism de directed towards the aapi community, talk to us more about how you feel like the winds, like michelle yeoh, how those winds will be able to lift a community out of a feeling of oppression and out of a feeling of being under attack. >> the attacks are coming from outside the community, it's really important to have those acclimate, not just for feeling like we are proud of what we accomplished, but also for people to say that hey, we are part of the society and fabric. we are also deserving to be acknowledged for all of our contributions, historically, all the way up to today. >> nancy, before you go, can you tell people where you might be able to read this report? i thought it was really
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compelling, i want people to access it. >> yeah, you can go to the usc adamsburg, it's a report that you can download for free. as well as my website, nancy w.y. e and.com. >> doctor nancy wang yuen, thank you so much for joining us, we appreciate you being here. >> thank you so much, michelle. >> thank you all for joining me this morning. i will be back tomorrow when we are joined by brett cross. his son was killed in the evil the massacre of robb elementary, to talk about how his family is still in the fight for medium gun reform, it has been almost a year. that is tomorrow at 8 am. remember to follow us on twitter, instagram, and tiktok on the handle katie phang show. my counterpart is coming up next. my counterpart is coming u next (dog barking) we love our pets. but we don't always love their hair. which is why we made bounce pet hair and lint guard with three times the pet hair fighting ingredients. just one sheet helps remove pet hair from your clothes!
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