or ensuring that are lgbtq a children and brothers and sisters are affirmed. america's actually want to make sure that those rights are available. those intentions are available. we have a gun violence crisis in this country that is killing our children. so, the issue is going directly to the people, they're on the side of those of us who want to advance progress. but this is the republican party blueprint, this is the conservative agenda that they want to take us back to those days. they are going to do everything they can, including cheat and steal, the supreme court seat, as well as the judiciary, to make sure that happens. so, it's something we have to make sure we're paying attention to, going into 2024. because we'll talk about one candidate in florida, this is the broader agenda for this conservative extreme maga republican -- >> sobering. >> they were like this blueprint in jacksonville. >> that's true. >> exactly. >> that was flipped, we now have a democrat there.

okay, guys, could see about, i don't see a lot more of, you thank you much. in the meantime, in our next hour, how a neighbor is coming to russia's rescue as the world tightens sanctions. what are the, dopamine we see world headquarters here in new york, welcome everyone to alex witt reports, we begin the hour with a new reaction from russia. two new g7 sanctions and president biden's plan to send f-16 fighter jets to ukraine. president zelenskyy flew to japan today, meeting with world leaders in the city. where the u.s. dropped two atomic bombs in 1945 to end world war ii. russia's foreign minister said today, sanctions from the g7 appear to be aimed at the double containment of russia and china. the plan to send american fighter jets to ukraine now raising questions about the risk of potential escalation of the wars. here's what former national security adviser told us last hour. >> clearly, the uss believes

that there is an escalation risk in providing f-16s. off they would've done it already. i think, in terms of the battlefield reality, alex, day today in the coming months, the things that are much more important, in the near term, or artillery, long-range rockets, the kind of things that can enable ukraine to mount a ground offensive. >> well, back in washington, the negotiations over the debt limit are off again. republicans and democrats are blaming each other for the debt ceiling deadlock. >> what concerns me, i think what concerns a lot of people in my home state of vermont. we should not give into a ransom no. we need to raise the debt ceiling, like we did under trump three times, we must pay our bills. already, without defaulting, which is where the freedom caucus would like us to go, clearly, without defaulting, we've already sent a signal to the world that we cannot be counted on to pay our bills. that's incredibly alarming. >> this, our return reaction to

an abortion ban that goes into effect in north carolina in july, after the state legislature voted to override a veto by governor roy cooper. >> this legislation flaps women in the face. it's an insult. to people of north carolina are mad. they push this thing through so fast. it took them 42 hours to turn back the clock 50 years. and they did it in the dark of night, because they didn't want anybody to know what was in this legislation, because they know the people don't support it. >> in the 2024 race is heating up, with more republican candidates gearing up to challenge trump in the primaries. well fulton county district attorney, fani willis, put staff on notice, and clears the courthouse calendar for the first half of august. it is a sign that a decision on charges could come this summer. we have reporters in place from washington to, japan, to discuss the today's top stories. we're gonna begin with nbc's

julie tsirkin joining us on capitol hill. with the very latest on the debt ceiling discussions. okay, there were some questions last hour, how about this hour, where do negotiations stand right now? >> well, negotiations aren't currently happening. because we have to, remember, we reported that the white house and hill are not meeting today, at least not yet. there could be some meetings between the republican side alone, i was just outside speaker mccarthy's office, where his arrival seemed imminent, we did not see him come into this building. we do know he's in washington, and no word from his side or negotiators, congressman patrick mchenry and garrett graves, we did not see them either. look, right now, both sides are at a standstill. last night, they met, they had a cold, candid discussion there was no negotiation or a republican majored emphasize that point to me, they are still quite far apart. they thought they had some progress on thursday, but by yesterday, they were at an impasse. they put a pause on negotiations yesterday morning. i am tall over the top line number, they can't quite figure

out where to cap spending levels, republicans want them capped at 2022 levels. that would undo much of what democrats were able to push through, much of what president biden is running on here as he seeks a second term. here's what vice president harris had to say in california yesterday. watch. >> there is a pause. there are differences. differences between the two ends of where we should be. let's also understand, these negotiations are difficult. however, i would say, our team was in the room negotiating on this, ismitted to figuring out how we can reach an agreement. the bottom line is that we all should agree, no matter who you voted for, america cannot default. >> speaker mccarthy has said that himself this week, now, as we look at the clock, we are less than two weeks away from that june 1st default deadline next week the senate is actually out of session.

the house still expected to be here. that's it, they're gone for memorial day, that's their current plants. and they still don't even have a framework, which is what mccarthy said they'll need to have by this weekend. and they're not here in this building. >> okay, thank you very much, julie tsirkin, that they were keeping a close eye on that. we appreciate it. let's go from there now to japan. president biden just's -- got off the second day of the g7 summit. nbc's mike -- is with the is in hiroshima, i did it again, there we go. without having to correct, it i corrected myself. that's where one atomic dromm bomb was dropped in mobile, to the other nagasaki, -- so mike, how are we, rather, what are we hearing and other g7 plans to address the tensions with china? >> well, alex, we've heard so often from president biden, his goal is competition, not conflict with china. and the entire trip was planned here to really demonstrate the ways in which the u.s. and our allies are stepping up their

game in china's backyard, as they released a competition. meeting with developing countries here at the g7 summit, to find ways in which they can deepen their economic cooperation with some of these countries. especially, as really relates to infrastructure support, debt relief as well. also, that trip was supposed to happen, to papua new guinea for a summit of pacific elevations where china has really been trying to ramp up its influence. and then that summit that was supposed to take place in australia, that ultimately took place yesterday, and when yesterday, i mean saturday here in japan, it's already sunday morning. with the quad leaders and alliance of the democracies in which that's meant to be a check on china as well. one of the ways in which the u.s. is looking to china as a potential partner, as it relates to the situation in ukraine, we heard john kirby from the national security council, speaking with our colleagues, kristen welker and peter alexander, about what that role could look like. take a listen. >> china's influence can be a good thing here.

there's a few, very few leaders around the world, that mr. putin is willing to listen to. president xi is one of them. so, our message to china has been, and looking in the, use that influence that you have, with putting, to encourage him to get out of ukraine. to pull his troops out. in short of that, if you want to be involved in a peace profit process, we've said, china can have a role. but for that wall to be credible, it's got to start with a foundation of understanding of what president zelenskyy will accept as a peace offer. >> it's worth noting, alex, president-elect of ukraine, who of course, arrived here in hiroshima on saturday, met earlier this week without peace envoy, that china has designated to try and work between russia and ukraine to find a way to end the bloodshed there. one of the many ways we've seen president zelenskyy on a one man diplomatic whirlwind mission throughout the world. meaning, earlier this week, with leaders in the united kingdom, france, germany, italy. then traveling to saudi arabia, and of course, coming here to

japan where he's going to have a one-on-one meeting later today on sunday with president biden. you can expect, of course, those new sanctions, announced here on friday. as well as president biden's decisions to greenlight the equipping in training of ukrainian pilots. with those advanced fighter jets, that will be part of the agenda. this is ahead of the expected counter offensive by ukraine, against russia. and president zelenskyy determine to do everything he can to marshal more and more support for allies, and some of those countries like india, that have been on the sidelines at this point. >> yeah. i have to say, when you mentioned it sunday morning, i looked at the clock, it's 208 they're. come on, in hiroshima, you've got to get about my friend. thanks for staying up. appreciate it. >> in the meantime, coming up next, following the red flags, the missed opportunities to arrest and national guardsman charged with leaking americas classified secrets.

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would look like if u.s. defaults on its debt, 12 days from now. a protracted default could lead to more than 8 million lost jobs, and a 45% plunge in stock values, a brief default could lead to half 1 million jobs lost and dragging out negotiations at the very last minute could actually cost around 200,000 jobs. joining me now, congressman mike quigley, democrat from illinois, a member of the house oversight committee, and a good friend of us. good to see you as always, let's get into this here. i'm curious what you can tell us about the status of negotiations, do you have a sense of what the sticking points are today? >> let me begin by saying this, i'm calling for the president to evoke the 14th amendment now. why give the markets any more concern, they're already shaking as it is. obviously, the extreme right of the republican party, and the speaker of the house, can't be trusted to act responsibly. i don't know exactly where

they're stuck on this, i think in the final analysis, it really doesn't matter. i think that the speaker's far right, who has the ability to knock him out of power, just about anytime they want, are not going to be reasonable. so, whatever those issues are that you're asking about, it really doesn't matter. i think they'll find another one. if a clean bill went to the house, they're trying to do with a discharge petition, i think it'll have bipartisan support. and if there was some sort of compromise that was rational, it would pass. i just don't see the extreme right letting the speaker do this. and ultimately, that his fault. >> well, i will say, the 14th amendment issue is specifically section four of the 14th amendment, you're not alone and people suggesting the president passed that. i know the question about how legal -- well, i guess the shaky ground in which it might stand, but, we'll wait to see what happens with that. in the meantime, the immediate effect of a default, it includes, here it is.

loss of income for veterans, for federal workers, also, social security risk -- for recipients. what is your sense in congress? having interacted with anyone who actually wants the u.s. to default? or members pretty much in general, nervous about how close this is. >> well, when we talk about the republicans i've worked with most closely who are appropriators, they are concerned, they don't want this to happen. i would say that there's a vocal tip of the docks tale that wagging the body politic. that are acting with such reckless disregard it is as if they don't care this happens. there are indeed putting power over what's right, party over country. they're the ones who want to be concerned about. even though they're a relatively small number. but, you know, just because something has never happened, doesn't mean it can't. as we were talking about

january 6th, no one thought there would be a violent coup led by the president of the united states. but that attempt took place. and something as horrible as this could happen if we don't pass a discharge petition, president doesn't evoke the 14th amendment or cooler heads prevail, it's of great concern to me and my colleagues, probably, on both sides of the aisle. >> yeah, let's talk about the president of the g7 in japan today. yesterday, as you know, he agreed to sending f-16s to ukraine. today, he announced an additional 375 million dollar aid package that includes artillery and ammunition. you are co-chair of the ukraine caucus, i know your recently at an emma plant in iowa. can you tell us about what you saw they're? >> sure, i mean, right now, the department of defense is talking about a 500% increase in the production of 155 millimeter shells that we saw produced there. that's extraordinary.

i think what i saw there is the arsenal of democracy coming back. that's how important this is. when i talk to the members -- -- in ukraine, they told us that weaponry was humanitarian aid. and if you want to see maternity hospitals stop getting flattened, and war crimes, and the sovereign democratic country not taken over, we have to be that arsenal of democracy. but what i saw was that creative spirit that we saw when franklin delano roosevelt talked about that, in his speeches. i'm going to continue to make that tour of tech plants, production plant of all sorts. just to see how we can make sure that happens. no one wants war. but if there's ever a time to help a defensive war, this is it. and as that defensive war turned to the offense, we have to give them tools that they need. i'll say this. it's an interesting pattern when you talk about the f-16 in

training. this began as a war of insurgency, that was the intention on our side. of preparing them for that. little did we know, ukraine would actually -- turn to the offensive. so, we began giving them things that were -- heavy artillery, tanks, a long list of other things, including drones. once -- what were once voices are now habits. my theory all along, get them ready, get the training on the abrams done a long time ago. on the f-16s. so when we finally get the -- the ready to turn it down more quickly. >> you served on the intel committee, so, i have a head-scratcher of a question for you. what are your thoughts on the case against accused pentagon laker, air national guardsmen, jack teixeira. he was denied bail yesterday. after prosecutors submitted a new filing showing that he was -- three times about viewing

content that wasn't related to his duties. he took notes on classified information, he conducted deep dives into classified systems, shared classified information with foreigners. and was caught on video making ethnic and racial slurs. how do you explain so many failed opportunities for discipline, and are you surprised? >> well, look. first of all, they could make us more angry at him, but in the long run, it should make us more angry and upset at how the department of defense handles this. as you said, i served on the house permanent select committee for eight years. they're not gonna like this, that i'm supporting their efforts in ukraine. but when it comes to intelligence, and the vigilance that comes with who should have access to these documents and the oversight of those who do, i've always thought that the permanent defense was less vigilant than the rest of the intelligence community. how this person got the status, perhaps, far worse was he

maintained it. the fact that we now know that he was warned about this and was allowed to continue, the fact that it's relatively easy for us to find out about this extremist views, it should have been much easier for them to understand this. as it was taking place. there's way too much at stake for a national security, and that those who help us in our national security, and to have people like this have any sort of access, the fact that it took place so long, that he had access to material beyond what he needed to. i guess, finally, i am of the belief that the department of defense still knows a lot less than we would imagine. and it's very concerning that they didn't have far more information about what's taking place then what this national guardsmen was doing all along. >> look, i don't have time, let me ask you quickly, is it a matter of somebody who was

overseeing him who caught him doing something should have been doing, not saying to somebody above him, gotta keep an eye on this guy. was it literally that simple? >> it could be. we're gonna find out a lot more. i think the problem is the culture and the mechanisms that are not in place to safeguard our national security. from people like him who have access to the sensitive documents. >> yeah. okay, mike quigley, i was good to see you, my friend, many thanks. >> you too. >> the news this week that donald trump's attorneys taking a closer look at their summer calendars, that's next. , i get exactly what i want. and only pay for what i need. (man) now i'm in charge... ...of my plan. (vo) introducing myplan from verizon. you get exactly what you want and only pay for what you need. and it all starts at just $30. it's your verizon. subway just keeps getting better. break it down candace. they got world class bakers to develop their tastiest bread yet. this truly makes the subway series a dream team. you know about that chuck. yeah, i was the bread of that team too.

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homeless man killed after a fellow subway writer placed him in a chokehold earlier this month. family and friends grieving during friday's funeral in a harlem church. reverend al sharpton delivered the eulogy. >> the sad part about it, the sick part about it, is that he'd been choked much of his life. the agencies that failed to keep him and give him at all choked jordan. those that let him go, even though they had his record of needing help, they choked jordan. the city agencies choked jordan. he had been choked most of his adult life. he is an example of how you choking the homeless, how you're choking the mentally ill, how you're choking all over the city, and we come to see this choking gotta stop.

>> there you go, the rev, joining me now. reverend sharpton. president of the national action network, president and host there of the msnbc's politicsnation. rev, my friend, welcome. you spoke about how many americans, criminalize the mentally ill, and the homeless. what would be the most useful, first step in changing that? >> well, i think that when we heard mayor eric adams, who is not there for the time that jordan was being cited in brought back, said that he wants to call a summit on this. he'd bring in that those that disagree with those policies. i said at the funeral, that should include the nearly family and their lawyers. i think we need to really go and do a deep dive on why these agencies would let someone like jordan nearly slipped through the cracks. and who's doing the follow-up? who's doing the monitoring of what happens, that a guy there

was on what they listed as -- the people that ought to be not in public, why was he there constantly. i think that we need to really have a methodical approach, and i think that what the mayor suggested could be that of his open to everybody, i think he'll do that. >> okay, what about daniel penny? he's been charged with second degree manslaughter, in neely death, he's been embraced by conservatives. he's been held up as a hero. more than $2 million has been raised for his legal defense fund. so, what's driving that? >> i think that what is driving that is people, for various reasons, but the result of that is frightening. because let's fast forward. let's say that he had not been prosecuted. let's say that he walks away, totally quit it. are we now setting a precedent that anyone on a train, that's

not long enforcement, not involved with metropolitan transit, if they see something they determine is threatening, they can get up and cause somebody's death? i mean, we'd be living in the wild, wild west here. you cannot have a president, you must remember, alex, this man was not a policeman. not even an off duty policeman. not heard by the mta, these guys are on a train, so, if i said i'm threatened, i have the right to get up and put illegal chokehold on you, this is something that is absolutely frightening. to many of us, and that's what i was trying to address. you must remember, he was indicted. for manslaughter, which means you caused the death, it's not even saying you intended to cause it. you caused a death. had it not been for that chokehold, this young man would not be dead. and if he walks away from that, i think that you're opening the city and other cities up to

something that vigilantism would be rapid. >> yeah, to the point you bring up about intent, you have penny's attorneys saying, he never meant to harm nearly. they say he stepped in to protect himself and his fellow new yorkerand who riskedwould d, they call it, an unfortunate result. then let's go to rhonda status, he's called penny a good samaritan. but simone sanders-townsend, host of simone, here on msnbc. had this to say, take a listen. >> a lot of conservatives have invoked the parable of the good samaritan. it makes me wonder, do people know what the parable other good samaritan's? the good samaritan is the person in the story, in the bubble, who stopped to help the person in need. not harm them. the good samaritan did not kill anyone. >> okay, how does reverend, your thoughts on that? >> well, i said that on morning

joe several days ago, according to the whole scripture of when jesus told the terrible of the good samaritan. i think that when you talk about pennies lawyers, it's outrageous. that he came from behind and choke somebody. that was a threat to him, how is he a threat to you, there was no weapon? there is nobody standing amino hurt nobody. you are defending yourself against what? he came behind him. drag him down, and choked him. i think that the self-defense claim sounds absurd to me. if he is saying that this young man had a weapon, this young man was saying he was gonna hurt somebody on the train, the witnesses that have been quoted as saying, i'm homeless. i'm thirsty, i can't take no more, i'm ready to die. i, never gonna kill somebody, i'm gonna hit somebody. i would harm somebody. so, you're defending yourself against what. your own amount imagination?

if we set that precedent, that based on someone's imagination, they can engage in something that causes death, it will come back to haunt all of us. we cannot afford this legal precedent, that's why we're involved in this case with national action network and supporting his family, supporting the lawyers in this case. >> let me ask you, reverend, about the staggering to report that came out this week. it's about the higher mortality rate among black americans and that resulted in more than 1.6 million excess deaths, compared to white americans over the two decades of the study. another of the study says, it's less about genetics, more about a long history of discrimination in the u.s.. how do you see it? >> there's no question about it. the lack of health care when you deal with the health care in the black community as opposed to the white community, when you deal with food deserts

and availability of the proper kind of things that go along with it. all of that is contributing to that. that's in the study. either you're going to operate from -- that blacks are inherently in genetically inferior or that the services, the environment, and the socioeconomic climate is what has set up this an equal situation. if you take black child in a way trump, put them in the same socioeconomic environment, in the same setting, they will end up probably with the same left-wing. unless it was something in their family. and i think that this is another wake up call. on how we must equalize health care, how we must deal with food deserts, and how we must deal, even with education, where people would understand what they are putting their body in, not none of which is available. if you raise children on fast foods and high sugar because

that's the only thing available in their community, you will get the result the study gives us. >> okay, always appreciate your voice on many, many issues, my friend, thank you so much reverend al sharpton. for all of, you we have a to watch politics nation with the rev, it's every weekend at five eastern, and among his guests today, congresswoman chantal brown, of ohio. so, how is russia surviving with all of its sanctions, it's getting a lot of help from a next door neighbor. and a lot more of it than a cup of sugar. chase freedom unlimited. so, if you're off the racking... ...or crab cracking, you're cashbacking. cashback on flapjacks, baby backs, or tacos at the taco shack. nah, i'm working on my six pack. switch to a king suite- or book a silent retreat. silent retreat? hold up - yeeerp? i can't talk right now, i'm at a silent retreat. cashback on everything you buy with chase freedom unlimited with no annual fee. how do you cashback? chase. make more of what's yours.

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intensifying, with a new round of air attacks on the capitol, officials are disputing claims the russian private army is in control of bakhmut. let's go to nbc foreign correspondent, molly hunter, joining us from kyiv. molly, welcome. what are you hearing about the fighting in bakhmut? >> yeah, alex, of course, just for audience, i see a map up on screen, does that eastern city which is in seen the fiercest fighting between russian troops and ukrainian troops. of course, on the russian side, mostly led by the mercenary group, wagner group, which is headed by yevgeny prigozhin, the statement, alex, that you just referenced, came from prigozhin, anything that comes from prigozhin needs to be taken with a grain of salt. we're getting a very quick rebuttal from two pieces, two spokespeople, excuse me, of the military, the military spokesman emily said. this is not true, our units are still fighting in bakhmut. and just about half an hour ago, the deputy defense minister

tells nbc news, heavy fighting in bakhmut, situation is critical, at the same time, our troops are holding the defensive line. alex, this battle, which is really been going on for months with very few gain from the ukrainian side, the ukrainians just in last week have said they felt like they have the momentum, and they are finally making some of their biggest gains in the last several months, just in this last week, alex. >> what about kyiv, where you are, i know it's been facing more attacks, has the city holding up? >> yeah, that's exactly right. this is a city now under siege, alex, and what's so interesting, since i was last here, just a couple of months ago, where air assault like we have seen this week, we've seen three major waves just this week, would knock out critical infrastructure. would knock out power. will not get water. what is happening, alongside these unprecedented aerial assaults, unprecedented success by ukraine's air force, and their air defenses. which, of course, rely heavily on western weapons like the u.s. made patriot air defense system. of course, alex, the biggest

news that ukraine air force, the rest of the military here, welcomes, this f-16s. the big critical question, of course, will be numbers. we'll be timing. and of course, will be what weapons come with those jets, what eventually those jets to come, and what other assets also come with those f-16s, that is certainly something that we know, president zelenskyy has been asking for, since the beginning of the war, and that will definitely strengthen the air defense of the capitol in of the country, alex. >> i appreciate the comparator report, stay safe, they're my friend. appreciate it. >> all of this as ties between russia and china are growing, russia is getting an economic lifeline from its neighbor, as trade between the two countries as recently surged. nbc's janis -- went to a city along that border for a closer look. >> squeezed by western sanctions, russia is relying on its neighbor, literally, next door. we are on the chinese border, and that's russia. it's flag just across the half roads frozen river. >> here, the two countries are so close, russia is just a few

hundred yards away. along the 2600 mile border, besides of deep russia china's ties are everywhere. on streets and buildings. in stores stock with russian goods. where vendors greek foreigners in russian. there's even a russian style bar. where this owner says chinese people can mingle with russians. china's president, xi jinping, declared a no limits partnership with russia. from that diplomatic boost for president putin with the recent state visit. to acquit nickel economic lifeline here. trade between china and russia surging by 30% in the last year. this is where huge pipeline delivers russian gas to china. energy that used to flow to europe. all of it keeping russia's economy afloat, and funding the war in ukraine. trucks loaded with goods will

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in several aspects of florida's government, while under ron desantis's administration, i want to pose that question to you. what would a desantis run, and possible presidency, mean for the man united states? >> thanks emily back on today. it's a disaster for the country. we've seen, for the last four years, and really more so the past couple of years, he's turned his attention to going after, basically, anyone who doesn't look like, him sound like him. attacking our teachers, attacking our higher ed system. banning books in our state. banning abortions at six weeks. and now, the latest stunt with disney, it's taking over 2000 jobs out of our state. so, what this means for the rest of the country, god forbid, he becomes the president of the united states, we will continue seeing those kinds of attacks in the white house. instead of trying to try to find ways to bring people together, to lift up our economy, protect our small businesses, encourage manufacturing jobs, united states. he's gonna continue carrying

out culture wars, and taken away freedoms along the way. so, i'm really hoping that americans really are trying to wake up to see the type of regime that is happening here in florida. it would be expected in the presidential run. >> as the florida democratic chair, i know they are celebrating major win this week, being democrat donna deegan who flip the jacksonville mayor's office and what's been called a major upset. her republican challenger was endorsed by desantis. but it's similar to what has happened in the kentucky governor's race, that didn't work out well for the candidate. why not? >> you know, there's a lot of reasons. first and foremost, donna deegan and the rest of the ticket were fantastic candidates. the other thing is, this is the first election after this atrocious legislative session, where the governor has taken us to not even just right, but in an extreme right. permit-less carry is now here in the state of florida. back peddling on guns. again, a six-week abortion ban. all of these culture wars. talking about our educational

institutions. this was a backlash. people are tired of this divisive politics, they want our elected officials to get down to the business of actually governing. we, right, i'll have one of the largest teacher shortages in the nation. we are seeing, everywhere, across the state, property insurance crisis, hearing words that are property rates are gonna go up almost 40% next year. so, people are tired of ron desantis antics, this new immigration bill that he just signed, we're seeing almost 800,000 of our migrant workers leaving the state. that's gonna hurt our tourism industry, our construction industry, of, course the agriculture industry. people want true leaders that are going to govern for the people, and at this divisive politics that just hurt people at the end of the day. >> here's the thing, florida was once considered a battleground state. but then these last couple of elections, it is very much been a republican stronghold. do you think the win at jacksonville is also an indication that florida might be returning to its swing state routes? >> i do.

i also want to say, in november of 2022, the democratic party of the state of florida just completely collapsed. i have been saying that, since november, this wasn't a desantis 19 point win. this was a 19-point loss for florida democrats. so, we've had to go back to the basics, as everything from voter registration, engagement, year-round mobilization, and what you saw in jacksonville, starting to have proof of that concept. democrats from across the state, the county, as well as dnc, really leaned into this race. and you saw the republicans, and are independent, really swung towards donna deegan, the republicans had a 7000 voter advantage going into election night. you saw so many people across that county, really flip to donna into the rest of the democrats up and down the ballot. this is a really promising opportunity for us, and, you know this will get us back to that it is a swing state. also, in 2018, as our

commissioner of agriculture, i was able to win a statewide election. an election that a democrat hadn't won in 20 years, first female ever elected as commissioner of agriculture. that was just four years ago. so, that will work the democrats have to be doing on the ground, but i have complete confidence that this state has always been a purple state. and really, more libertarian than anything else. and this culture war and its culture shift that rhonda scent is taken in the state this is not who florida is. and that proved, that point, this past tuesday objectionable. last question i want to ask you disney, just pulling the plug on the billion dollar development in florida admit it's feud with desantis. how are folks they're reacting to this knowing that more than 2000 jobs just went bust? >> everybody in the state is upset. from the people in the county, the people that work around the disney properties. those are across this tired state that -- that conimicut this. has its 2000 good paying jobs. an average of $126,000 a year,

one billion dollar investment. that is just for your one. and so this is showing the rest of the country that this is the kind of person he is. if you dare cross him, you are going to be on the chopping block. and for businesses across the country, this is a wake up call. if you dare come across rhonda scent is and not agree with his principles, you are going to be seeing significant penalties, not just in the state but across the country. so this is something that every floridian is talking about and it's not a good day for floridians seeing that what he has done for economics. >> nikki fried, thank you so much. i appreciate. that that's for it for me. i'll see again tomorrow one pin eastern. yasmin vossoughian continues our coverage right over there. tinues our coverage right over there. hey everybody. it looks like it's blue day here at msnbc. the same color and as my friend. alex thank you fo