tv Inside With Jen Psaki MSNBC May 21, 2023 9:00am-10:00am PDT
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up to the facebook catastrophe. early in the show, we gave you our very first velshi middle of the day, why doesn't alexa run for the senate? we've been bombarded on social media with viewers who think they know the answer. drumroll, please, the answer is, because she likes being speaker of the house. that does it for me. thank you for watching. stay right where you are, jen psaki, instead of john psaki begins right now. right now >> the republican field is about to expand this week with tim scott and ron desantis officially jumping in. when it comes to governor desantis, brace yourself for a lot of talk about making america florida. i'll tell you what that would actually look like. and last jacksonville's mayor elect, donna deegan, how she pulls off a stunning upset with a much different brand of politics. plus, county district attorney -- signals something big could becoming an august. i have some unsolicited advice for how donald trump's republican rivals might want to message around that.
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meanwhile, president biden cuts a foreign trip short as time runs out to strike a deal on the debt limit. one of the senators urging biden to consider going around his republican house speaker's joins me live. later, a jog in the park with senator cory booker, we talk about his message of positivity amid so much cynicism and washington and his friendship with one of those republicans running for president. well, florida governor ron desantis is said to officially enter the race for president this week. let's be honest, he is a work in progress when it comes to retail politics. >> i saw, that you have, like, a 1955 portion there. that once nice. how much is that worth? >> oh, we won't even talk about that. >> so, it's safe to say there is some unknowns when it comes to the type of candidate he'll be the -- what there is very little doubt
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about is where he stands on policy issues right now. look no further than the last chapter of his book, he wrote it all there, make america florida. that's it. that is the sales pitch for the desantis 2024 campaign. so, let's just be super clear about what making america florida would actually look like. take gun violence, desantis signed a law last month allows people in his state to carry concealed weapons without any permit requirements. by making america florida, no one in the country would need a permit to carry a gun in public. what about abortion access? by making america florida, abortion would be illegal after six weeks of pregnancy. before men and women even know they're pregnant, by the way. curious for lgbtq rights still at this point? making america florida mean banning the teacher of gender and sexual ice then the day for all school students. even highschoolers, it would
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means preparing funds for gender pharmacare, the government getting temporary custody of children if parents provide them with treatments like hormone replacement therapy or puberty blockers, cause they choose to, as parents. -- how would inclusion programs and public universities? sounds good, right? not if america turns into florida. there is not gonna be any of that anymore. but at least florida super pro business, right? maybe investment in american jobs is what desantis would bring to the table? mickey would disagree. after desantis picked a fight that started with his discriminatory don't say gay bill, disney announced this week it is scrapping plans for a billion dollar florida campus, it means 2000 workers who were going to come to florida are no longer relocating to florida. so, that, in a nutshell, is the desantis plan for america. make it just like florida. you can decide out there if you like that or not. the fact, as we don't have this republican primary will play out. the general election is still 18 months away. but this week, voters in
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florida's largest cities seem to indicate the desantis brand of politics is not for them. in jacksonville, democrat donna deegan beat republican backed by around desantis. jacksonville was the largest city in america with republican mayor, but not anymore. jacksonville's mayor elect, donna deegan, joins me now. first of all, congratulations on your big -- you've given a lot of democrats hope about florida. >> jen, thank you so much. it is great to be with you. >> we just laid out, i just laid out their what's happening in tallahassee under governor desantis, especially in recent months in over the last year. i want to ask, you is their disconnect between what's happening in the legislature and what voters actually care about in jacksonville? >> well, i think one of the most concerning things to mayors especially as the loss of local rule under this legislature in this governor. i think that's one of those things that we've been hyper focused on. i ran a very jacksonville-based campaign, this generation
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jacksonville native, i'm somebody who's a news anchor here for 25 years and have a foundation for breast cancer patients. people have known me as being someone who works very well across the aisle. at the end of the day, what we kept hearing over and over again we are out in the neighborhoods, talking to people, was, you know, how much is there going to be left for local mayors to do if we continue to take away local rule the way we've done in tallahassee. i think that is something that religion resonate with people, in addition to some of these things were talking about. >> one of the things that gave people hope is that you beat republican opponent by four points. governor desantis won jacksonville just six months ago in november by 12 points. this mayoral race, republicans turned out in bigger numbers than democrats. clearly, while the numbers there, you are able to convince them desantis voters, some republicans, to vote for you. how did you manage to do that, exactly? >> well, first of all, you know, i'm a marathon, or i like long distance insurance events. we started there early, we started 18 months out.
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we literally, every single day, we were in a neighborhood somewhere holding a town hall, knocking on doors, listening to people about their concerns, bringing everybody and. i think it's so important, jen, if we're gonna move forward in this country, we have to be able to talk to each other again. we have to be able to see each other on some level. i found so much commonality between what we all, one talking to democrats, republicans, independents. people are frustrated with the fractures, they're frustrated with ugliness. so, what we pledged to do is run a completely positive campaign, vision based, on issues, i know, all right? hard to believe in politics these days. but we made that commitment, and we followed through. i think what you saw resoundingly from the voters was not only where they tired of jacksonville that was moving forward at a pace they would like, but they were really tired of the ugly. i think, you know, this is a community that went through three bouts of breast cancer of, may we built a really strong bond over the years while it
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was on the air. you know, people prayed for me. i created a foundation for them. that helps underserved people of breast cancer. there was a lot going on here. i think i had a very deep rooted relationship with them, we shared a shared life with folks here. if anyone had an opportunity to bring in folks from across the aisle, i had that opportunity. i had the most amazing campaign manager in the world, pat mccullough, amazing woman, came in with a grassroots plan from day one and just let that thing like a general. we are the only campaign to qualify for petition, got 9000 signatures, and then just kept on rolling with the grassroots army that turned out to be, you know, comprised of folks from all across the political spectrum. really really grateful. i'm optimistic we can take that unity message and move it forward. i think you're seeing some fatigue with a lot of the hateful politics out there. >> it's no secret, i love your
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shout out, first of all, to campaign staff, they are the heart and soul of how these things are often one, in addition to great candidates. it's no secret that democrats about having a hard time in florida over recent years. here is governor ron desantis, here's what he had to recently say about this. i want to talk to you about it on the other side. >> what used to be a swing state, you know, now, the democratic party in florida is a hollow shell. it is like a dead carcass on the side of the road. i, mean we have be the left in the state of florida. >> a hollow shell. so, what is your view on that? and what do you think about the state of the democratic party in florida? >> listen, as i said, when we embarked on this race, there is nothing that succeeds like success. i think you have to give people a reason to hope. you have to give people a reason to believe that all of us can come together and create some sort of a system where all voices are heard. i think that was our message. you know, i'm so glad you have cory booker on today. he was one of the people that acted a video, i followed cory
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all the time. we are very similar in the way we message. i think it's so important to stay up here. i think, if you can give people a reason to be optimistic and hopeful, do that with policy involved, where you show them what you can do to actually make their lives better at kitchen table level, i think that's the way forward. i don't think it's, i don't think it is a mutual few food fry, i think it is a message of unity and hope, what we can do together. >> most people are trying to read tea leaves here, get hopeful, i would say. the republican party in florida said this about your when, quote, it's a joke to imply it's an indicator of how the state is going to perform. what's your reaction to that? >> well, like i said, i think there's a lot of political theater that goes into politics. i saw that from the very beginning. you know, i've been in the media for a long time, i know how it works, i've covered politics my whole life. a gun on the other side of it, interview just about every politician in the world, including president obama.
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i know how these things go. i said at the end of it, when it's all over, and we have to leave, it's all about relationships, building relationships. so, i would say that that's what the head of the gop is gonna say, it will find out. i think people are very anxious here to build bridges. i'm gonna do everything i can to do that. >> as my former boss, president biden, i hope he does call you, maybe he has already, to call you for advice on how to win florida, 2024. what would you say to him? >> listen, president biden also is an incredibly positive human being. i think he's made incredible overtures across the aisle. i would just tell him to tell him to continue to build those relationships, that's what it's all about, making sure everybody has a voice and continuing to just tell people that where about hope, where about the ability to make change if we all work together. i think he's right on with that. >> mayor-elect, congratulations
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again, thank you for spending time with me this afternoon. >> thank you, i appreciate that. >> absolutely. coming up, a potential collision course on the counter between a charging decision in georgia in the first republican debate. i've got some pointers for trump's gop rivals on how they might want to handle that. plus, the very latest on the looming that ceiling disaster, president biden on his way back from asia right now to continue negotiating with kevin mccarthy. later, fox news proves yet again that anything fitting your narrative is worth talking about, whether it's true or not. we'll be right back. l be right back. suffering from sinus congestion, especially at night? try vicks sinex for instant relief that lasts up to 12 hours. vicks sinex targets congestion at the source, relieving nasal congestion, and sinus pressure by reducing swelling in the sinuses. try vicks sinex.
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allow me to explain myself here. this week, we learned the former president could face potential charges in early august about his attempts to interfere in the 2020 election in georgia. that be a very big deal. fulton county d.a., fani willis, told her staff to work remotely, asked judges not to schedule trials in the first half of august. signaling and narrow timetable for her charging decisions in this case. she wants staff to stay home, she wants judges to stay home. so, it seems there's something pretty big coming. of course, we don't know what, if any charges the case will bring or how the play. but we do know this case is centered around efforts to overturn the results of a democratic election. it's all about democracy. the district attorney's state playing those charges come, they're probably coming in august. do you know what else is happening in august? the first republican presidential primary debate. yes, i mean, trump may skip the debate, probably won't know
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until we're much much closer. but regardless, the debate will be a huge opportunity for you candidates out there, in a crowded field, they offer your best opportunity to have a moment perhaps that people remember, the help to raise money, that makes her candidacy standout. now, you may be thinking to yourself, i want to stay away from trump's legal troubles. after all, when he was indicted in the hush money case, 68% of gop voters stood by him and deemed the investigations politically motivated, according to an nbc news poll. most of the white house hopefuls chose not to attack him. i don't agree with it, but i kind of get it. trust me, this one is different. this one is about our democracy, this one is also on tape. >> so, look, all i want to do is this. i just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than
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we have because we won the state. so, what are we gonna do here, folks? i'll need 11,000 votes. fellas, i need 11,000 votes. give me a break. >> fellas, i need 11,000 votes, gimme a break. i mean, still hard to believe that was a phone call between a president and the secretary of state and not a scene from the godfather movie. so, if you're one of the republican candidates preparing to be on the debate stage in august, here is a pretty simple attack line to get your creative juices flowing, i'm sure you can do better. both are earned not found, i am going to earn your vote. that one's on me, free of charge. if you're still feeling unsure about whether or not to raise this when you get on that stage, consider this, your ultimate goal is to end up in the oval office, right? and in 2022, election denial was unpopular in general elections, almost every single candidate in battleground states who denied or questioned the results of the 2020 elections lost. turns out, standing up for
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democracy isn't just the right thing to do, it's also popular. it's not just democrats saying this are proving this, just take georgia, in georgia, republican secretary of state, brad raffensperger first refuted trump's election fraud claims to trump on the phone, then to voters across the state, and he was reelected over an election denier. republican governor brian kemp refused to overturn biden's win in georgia, he was reelected as well. over trump's handpicked choice to replace him. he is very popular in georgia today. i'm sure all of the republican candidates out there notice that. and just this week, and kentucky, kentucky, very red kentucky, republican secretary of state, michael adams, took down two challengers who campaigned on claims of voter fraud. so, republican candidates out there, you have your strategy, we've given you some research. there is more where that comes from. i even gave you a sample attack line to get all those creative wheels turning. just over two months until the
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republicans in the house just crazy enough to let the united states default. lots of democrats in congress know they might be crazy enough to. that's why dozens of lawmakers have been urging the president to prepare to invoke the 14th amendment. here's what biden had to say about that option before heading home from japan. >> we have not come up with a unilateral action that could succeed in a matter of two weeks to three weeks. that is the issue. so, it's up to lawmakers. but my hope and intention is we're gonna resolve this problem by finding a rationale to take it to the courts to see whether not the 14th amendment is something that would be able to stop it. >> joining me now is democratic senator tina smith from minnesota, she is one of the lawmakers who's been urging the president to take a look at the 14th amendment. so, as you heard the president say just there, he's open to, it's obviously never been done before. it's a matter of time. senator smith, do you wish the
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president and the white house had looked into the 14th amendment earlier? >> well, jen, i think that the president is demonstrating what we know and love about him, his commitment to coming up with some sort of a reasonable agreement. if anybody can figure out how to negotiate a reasonable agreement with these republicans in the house, it is joe biden. that's the challenge. they are essentially engaging in this extortion game. they're essentially saying agree with us on making cuts to programs for seniors, kids, and families working and low wage jobs, or we are gonna drive the economy off the cliff. our goal is just to make sure that the president, and everybody, including those republicans, are aware that there is another option, the 14th amendment. >> so, the extortion game is a good definition of a. i think that house bill, especially senator smith, the president has said, it's clear there's gonna be a negotiation, he said he would not agree to a deal that is on partisan terms,
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you alluded to that as well. i want to gain a better understanding of what you would be comfortable with in a final package. a lot of these details are being debated. would you be okay with giving back unspent covid funds, for example? >> well, i think it depends on whether or not those unspent covid friends are truly unaccounted for and uncalled for. i trust the president and the white house to be able to come to an agreement amongst, inouye, for them to put forth a reasonable deal. what bothers me is how the negotiating position and the demand of the republicans in the house seems to be, make these cuts, by the way, we won't even entertain any rollback of those giant tax cuts to wealthy people and big corporations. they are insisting are made permanent over the next ten years, would contribute over three trillion dollars to the federal debt. they're actually, i mean, they're in favor of debt relief, when that is the kind of
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proposal that they're looking at. the president and his team, really phenomenal, they're doing the best job they can. i'm very concerned that a reasonable agreement cannot be reached with mccarthy and marjorie taylor greene, those other extremists in the house. then, the choice is, what law do you follow? do you follow the law in the constitution or do you follow this debt ceiling law, which looks to me like it could be determined to be unconstitutional. >> sounds like you're pretty concerned at this point on the sunday, almost june, there might not be a deal reached, is that an accurate depiction of where you say? >> i think we have to be realistic about what mccarthy can and will agree to. there is no sign, it's hard to feel optimistic over the last couple of days, i mean, the ways they've pulled back from negotiations. the ways in which they refused to take the federal government defaulting off the table. what i admire but what the
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president has done, he said, listen, i am here to negotiate with you on what the contours of a federal budget should look like, how we can go about reducing the federal debt. we have to take this catastrophic and unprecedented default of the federal government off the table. because mccarthy refuses to do, that seems to be doubling down on his extreme demands, it does feel like extortion. the president isn't a very tough situation, how does he deal with this? the important thing is that there are options that will protect the american people and, you know, of course i worry, as i think a lot of people do, if the president gives into this now, which would be catastrophic, it's not gonna be the last time that this happens. >> it seems clear the president indicated there is gonna be a negotiation about some components, right, at this play. even though it should be raised cleanly as has been done many many times in the past. he did draw a line in the sand overwork requirements for
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medicaid, would you be comfortable and the version of strict work requirements for food stamps or the temporary assistance for needy families program? the other two areas, and this is, of course, as you know, a big controversial question, there's a lot of opposition within the democratic caucus. >> i share that opposition, i'm asking myself, why would i ask a, you know, a working family that's working in a low wage jobs that has young kids, why would i ask them to sacrifice and pay the price when these republicans in the house refused to even entertain the idea of closing loopholes that allow their wealthy bodies and big corporations to not pay their fair share, that's fundamentally unfair. i do not think it's gonna contribute to the strength of our country going forward. and it's very expensive, as we think about the need to address the deficit, i give you that, we need to figure out how to address the deficit, but why do that only by looking at these ridiculous cuts and making it
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harder for working families to get ahead and get along? >> before i let you go, i want to ask you about politics for a second, or the vice chair of the democratic senatorial campaign committee, some strategist have said, on the record, very publicly, if trump is the nominee, it would make it harder for republican senate candidates to defeat democratic incumbents. do you agree with that? >> well, trump, being a nominee, it makes it harder for our democracy. his threat to our democracy is a thing that i think is so concerning. what gives me a lot of hope in this moment, as i look at what happened with the elections in 2022 is we saw young people, women, across the board rise up and say they want to make sure their voices were counted. that made the difference in tough senate elections and nevada, pennsylvania. there is every reason to believe that this same sense of urgency amongst voters,
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especially younger voters, is continuing. i think that is why we are going to have a lot of good luck and good work in 2024. i'm really sad about what will happen. >> thank you senator smith for joining us this afternoon. coming up, fox news down plays a real story in play it's up a hoax. i will explain what it says about the right-wing ecosystem. later, a wrong with senator cory booker about of his weekend routine. you talk about physical mental health and his own political future. we will be back after a quick break. ef from the world's number one nerve care company. nervive contains ala to relieve nerve aches, and b-complex vitamins to fortify healthy nerves. try nervive. and, try nervive pain relieving roll-on. at t-mobile, your business will save over $1000 bucks. what are you going to do with it? i could use a new sign. woooo! alright... ♪ soundproof windows.
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are a lot of things that seemed to easily trigger the right. eminem is being too woke, bud light having the gall to pay for a sponsored post on a trans person's instagram post. as we saw this week, any mention of the threat of white supremacy. the latest countdown came when president biden spoke about that threat in stark terms at the comments and speech at howard university. >> on the best days enough of us have the guts and the hearts to stand up for the best in us to choose love over hate, unity over disunity. progress over retreat. to stand up against the poison of white supremacy, as i did my inaugural address as the single
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most dangerous terrorist threat to our homeland is white supremacy. . >> calling out the poison of white supremacy should not be controversial. the president wasn't just taking a stance on values, one that everyone should share and agree with. he was referring to the confusion made by multiple law enforcement agency about the rise of law enforcement -- including the department of homeland security during donald prompt's presidency. you would know that from knowing fox news if their reaction was any indication -- they want you to think that the president is flat out lying. >> this is the biggest lie that you can imagine. it makes your skin crawl. it is really disgusting, it is divisive. >> this sure is how in the number one threat. that is the most obvious lie. >> what the left wants to do to restart race founded our
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country. divide, exclude, and indoctrinate. they want us to not get along. >> i think it is so cynical. i think it is actually able to lie about america. that is not america. america is not racist. america is the least racist country in the world. >> for the people out there who only watch fox you might think that's a threat of white supremacy is totally spun up and overblown. that is intentional on their part. more right-wing media is invested in creating a very specific many of what they want their audience to be outraged about and afraid of. things like the woke mind virus, whatever that is. the big e, migrants any migrants coming in from the southern border. sometimes i can't help but come in -- >> a story that received a lot of courage in right-wing media this week.
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hotels and upstate new york evicting homeless veterans to make room for migrants. >> we begin with this fox news alert. that is no way to treat those who put their lives on the line for the rest of us. sanctuary city mayor eric adams is busting illegals to upstate new york what happens when they get their? homeless veterans are being kicked out of hotels to make room for illegal immigrants. >> fox news confirmed 20 vets just got kicked out of several hotels in the suburbs north of manhattan to make room for those migrants getting bussed in from the city. >> this is the hellscape story, okay. fox's knee for has confirmed that those displaced vets are safely in a different hotel. we know the intention was. second-class utterance our veterans. primary, most celebrated citizens to get all the benefits, non citizens. fraudulent asylees. >> that is just a taste of some
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of the coverage from fox. we couldn't fill the whole shower. that for the careful white national talking point is a perfect story. that is what is scary. look at how they prioritize for migrants -- if they did that to them, what will they do to you out there, fox viewer? even elected republicans jumped in and ran with it. the third ranking, at least to phonic tweeting out biden's america, arkansas senator tom cotton said, quote, it's sums up the biden presidency. here is the thing. of the two stories i mentioned so far, president biden calling white supremacy the number one domestic terrorist -- . >> only one is based in actual fact. thanks to some great journalism from local news outlets, it turns out that story from veterans being evicted from incoming migrants is completely false. there were never any veterans
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kicked out of the hotel. according to the manager there, there were never any better and staying in the hotel in the first place. the entire story was predicated on the fabricated lines of a nonprofit group which altered a receipt to make it look like they actually paid for hotel rooms. can you imagine what possessed him to do that? the recruited vulnerable homeless man to play the part of the evicted veterans. fox definitely is not the first media organization to get burned by a hoax. they will not be the last. if you think about, at this past week was very telling about these patterns on the right and in right-wing media. downplay the inconvenient truths, throw gasoline on the convenient fires. facts be dammed. coming, up a fascinating conversation with actor johnny was not about his trip across america for msnbc everything that he learned along the way. but first, my day with senator cory booker. it's not on the politics of the moment in washington. how is philosophy and not fighting hate with a leading to lviv with donald trump.
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not for president. not anytime soon. he's actually running every single day, rain or shine, to demonstrate the importance of exercise on our physical and mental health. i joined him for one of his morning workouts to talk about healthy habits, everything else on his plate, and the u.s. senate. >> hello. >> good to see you. >> great to see you. >> thanks for inviting me on you weekday run. >> a beautiful day for it. >> yes, let's go. >> so you are a pretty daily runner. >> i have a streak going now. next week opaque through 500 days in a row of running. >> so your running in cold, rain, sleet. you're like the postal service.
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>> i run on days that we used to be excuses to not run for me, but now since i want to see how long i can keep the streak going. >> what made you start running? >> i started, i guess, now almost two years ago, with this frustration about the political dialogue and the, you know, the tension growing in our country. i think we are suffering from a -- in connection. i realize that maybe i can do something for myself, and be an example. live my truth as good as possible. so much of our well-being is connected to our daily habits, our ability to connect, and -- >> because it's a mental health thing for you, as well as physical? >> it's definitely a mental thing for me. it's helped me not only improve my own health, but also my whole overall sense of well-being, in my sense of personal triumph, other areas of my life.
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>> you. brock >> i can't believe i reached your height. >> i want to feature you on a core story. >> i'm so honored, as a viewer and follower. >> as an aspiring person to, me and i'm sure to so many other people. >> same to you. >> i'm wondering if you have an inspiring story, or quote, or something you can inspire us most with. >> i think a lot about it by smother has given me. the piece of advice she's given, meet the night before my first briefing at the white house was this. even though you feel stressed, if you feel pressure, keep your feet grounded on the ground, and keep your spine's death. nothing can blow you away. of course it's visible, but it's also spiritual. what it means is, stay true to who you are, and your own values, and who you know you are, and don't let external forces try to blow you over. >> i love that. thank you. >> hi senator booker.
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good to see you again -- ♪ ♪ ♪ your parents were among the first black executives at ibm, very important people in your life. what is the biggest lesson you learn from them? >> i think that jason waldman is. right children and up listening to their. elders in ever felt imitate them. they're very good people who lived purpose trivialize. they made me and my brother feel, as we were going, up the ridiculous lessons that we had. number one, to be the 4% of humanity to call yourself in america, but more importantly, especially as a black american, helpless we were to get to where we were, and how much of a dead mother and i owed. that we had to find a way to pay it forward, because we could never pay back. >> one of the areas you've been pretty passionate about is your role on the agriculture committee. tell me a little bit about why that is an area passion for you,
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and what to people not know about how issues that hit that committee and pack them? >> every issue that americans care about intersects with our food. that's the source of life. we have a system that's become so corrupted by these large multinational corporations, who don't care but independent family farmers, who don't care about farmworkers, we don't care about the quality your health of our foods, we don't care about the longevity of the human species because we weigh over use antibiotics. we have a system that drops down the cost of a happy meal, it doesn't ultimately make us long-term happy in terms of our health, and drops of the cost of the foods that are more healthy. we are a nation that was formed because we believe in life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. you can't have any of those unless your food system is vital, and fresh, and healthy. >> you have a friendship with senator tim scott. we've talked about, someone
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you've said you loved. >> look, i have friendships with tim scott, dan sullivan, i can go through a lot of republicans that i formed legitimately good friendships here. that's the way you get things done. it's not by vilifying or demonizing people you disagree with, but by finding courts of common humanity. >> people are intrigued by his presidential aspirations know about him. >> i think that has a look at this republican field, he may be one of those people that is underestimated. >> when 2016 in 2020, you talked about how you can't fight hate with hate. this is a mcarthur donald trump. even said, many times, i love him, i love you donald trump. do you still feel that way about him? >> the core of my spirituality comes from the simple idea, love your neighbor, love those who hate you, never let somebody pull you soloist to make you hate them. i voted to impeach the guy twice. i think that he has created
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crimes. how do you fight that? well history, to, me teaches very well. how do we fight, and our country, bill connor. did martin luther king bring bigger dogs and fire hoses? where did he find a way, when these elements of hates, and bigotry, and divisiveness, did he find a way to change the frequency? king said it, writes the problem today is not the vitriolic words, violent actions, that banned people only. it's the appalling silence and inaction of the good people. >> you've run for president wants. >> yes. >> you've now been in the senate for a while. >> yes. >> are you a senate life? or are there other things you aspire to? >> i have found that the best way to make -- made plans for yourself. >> fair enough. >> i love the job, thank, you new jersey. i will most likely run for reelection in 26. we'll see what the future brings. if i ran for president for purpose, and one of that was fueling our country, bringing us together again to see more
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common purpose, and common cause. if that is still something a a future presidential election, will think about it again. every day, it's precious, as you know. nothing tomorrow as promised, so i'm just really excited today, i can do something to make a difference for other people. i think that we all have to realize, every, day it affords us is a privilege. >> thank you to senator cory booker for bringing the on one of your bronze. we did think we were going faster than maybe we. we're up, next it's not every day that we get a movie star here in washington bureau. i sat down with john -- to talk about latina representation in politics, it is msnbc, series -- that series is coming up after a quick break. a quick break. is strong enamel- nothing beats it. new pronamel active shield actively shields the enamel to defend against erosion and cavities. i think that this product is a gamechanger for my patients- it really works. he snores like an angry rhino you've never heard an angry rhino gamechanger for my patients-
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in america full of latin people. you know, we kill. we started going to those cities, one by one. going to the cities, you just funds so many incredible people who are doing amazing things, who don't lose hope, boo fight against the lack of funding, lack of support from any group, from the government, and they are still building communities by themselves, thriving. that touched me very much. >> we're sitting in washington d.c. right now, of course. the capital is right over here. >> looking over at. >> in your d.c. episode, you mentioned 20% of the u.s. population as latin, yet latino people make up less than 2% of elected officials. that's a pretty startling statistic or number when you hear that. what did you learn or see as the biggest barriers for latinos to become elected officials? >> you, know it's interesting, where the oldest ethnic urban america, aside from native americans. we decided --
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we were here for 500, years before, that they were great empires. we've had political power that was taken from as many times in the 18 hundreds, and promised to us by texans, and taken away from us. then repatriation act where hoover deported 2 million american citizens who are latinos. i mean, constantly, powers been taken away. it's been hard to build a platform where we are elected officials. that's hard. i mean, texas is 40% latino. you've got less than 1% of elected officials. >> trump has made a little bit of inroads, that's how republicans -- >> when he signed those checks with his name. >> people knew the money came from him. >> yes, people were pressed by. that they said, oh, this is incredible. >> he just gave me money. >> i'm going to have another check. so signing social security checks with his own personal monitor, you'll get us. >> what do you think the democrats should be doing? what's the message they should be carrying? >> they need to hire
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consultants. they need to support all these grassroots latinos that are up against senators in arizona, where 30% of the population, you can get us. their support are candidates, give them real money, so they can have a real fighting chance. >> it's been a pleasure speaking with you today. >> thank you for having me. >> you can watch the final episode of leguizama does america tonight, tempe am eastern, here on msnbc and streaming on peacock. that does it for me today. we'll be back here next sunday at noon eastern time. stay right where you are, because as much more news ahead right here on msnbc. t here on msnbc. a very good day to all of you from msnbc world headquarters here in new york. welcome, everyone, to alex witt reports. breaking news in the debt ceiling. those talks, as the president is making
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