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didn't let down your entire family. what would that reality look like? well i guess i would've gotten us xfinity... and we'd have a better view. do you need mulch? >> when it comes to governor what, we have a ton of mulch. desantis, brace yourself for a lot of talk about making america florida.
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i'll tell you what that would actually look like and i'll ask jacksonville's mayor elect donna deegan how she pulled off a stunning upset with a much different brand of politics. plus, fulton county district attorney fani willis signals that something big could becoming an august. i have some unsolicited advice about how drunk donald trump's republican rivals might want to message around that. meanwhile, president biden cuts a foreign trip short as time runs out to strike a deal on the debt limit. one of the senators urging biden to consider going around his republican hostage takers joins me live. and later, a jog in the park with senator cory booker. we talk about his message of positivity amid so much cynicism in washington and his friendship with one of those republicans running for president. ♪ ♪ ♪ . both florida governor ron desantis is set to officially enter the race for president this week. and let's be honest, he's definitely work in progress when it comes to retail
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politics. >> i saw that, you have like a 1955 porsche in there. that's nice, how much is that worth? >> we won't even talk about. the >> [laughter] >> it's safe to say there are some unknowns when it comes to the type of candidate he will be in diners and on rope lands. but what there is very little doubt about is where he stands on policy issues right now. look no further than the last chapter of this book he wrote it all their make america florida. that's it, that's the sales pitch for the desantis 2024 campaign so let's just be super clear about what making america florida would actually look like. take gun violence, desantis signed a law last month that allows people in his state to carry concealed weapons without any permit requirements. so by making america florida no one in the country would need a permit to carry a gun in public. what about abortion access?
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by making america florida, abortion would be illegal after six weeks of pregnancy. before many women even know their pregnant. curious about lgbtq rights at this point? making america florida would mean banning the teaching of gender and sexual identity for all public school students, even highschoolers. it would mean prohibiting funds for gender affirming care. it would mean the government getting temporary custody of children if their parents provide them with treatments including puberty blockers or home replacement therapy. how about funding for diversity equity and inclusion programs and public universities? sounds good right? not if america turns into florida, there's not gonna be any of that anymore. but at least florida's super pro-business right? maybe investment in american jobs is what desantis would bring to the table. mikey would disagree. after desantis picked a fight that started with his discriminatory don't say gay bill disney announced this week it is scrapping plans for a billion dollar florida campus
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which means 2000 workers who were going to come to florida are no longer relocating to florida. so that in a nutshell is the desantis plan for america. make it just like florida, you can decide out there if you like that or not but the fact is we don't know how this republican primary will play out and the general election is still 18 months away. but this week, voters in florida's largest city did seem to indicate that the desantis brand of politics is a relief for them. in jacksonville, democrat donna deegan and be a republican backed by ron desantis. jacksonville was the largest city in america with republican mayor but not anymore. jacksonville's mayor elect donna deegan joins me now. first of all, congratulations on your big win, you've given a lot of democrats hope about florida. >> jen, thank you so much. it's good to be with you. >> i just laid out there what is happening in tallahassee under governor desantis, especially in recent months and over the last year. i want to ask you, is there a
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disconnect between what is happening in the legislature and what voters actually care about in jacksonville? >> i think one of the most concerning things to mayors is the loss of local rule under this legislature and governor. that's one of those things that we've been hyper focused on. i ran a very jacksonville-based campaign. i'm a fifth generation jacksonville native, i'm somebody who was a news anchor for 25 years, i've a foundation for breast cancer patients. people know me as someone who works very well across the aisle. but at the end of the day, but we kept hearing over and over again when we were out of the neighborhoods and talking to people was how much is there going to be left for local mayors to do if we continue to take away local rule the way we have done in tallahassee. so i do think that was something that really resonate with people in addition to some of these other things you are talking about. >> one of the things, mayor elect deegan that gave people hope is that you be a republican opponent by four points. governor desantis was in, --
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in this mayoral race republicans turned out in bigger numbers, by all the numbers you were able to convince some republicans to vote for you. how did you manage to do that exactly? >> first of all i'm a marathon or so i like long distance endurance events. we started very early, we started 18 months out and we literally, every single day, we're in a neighborhood somewhere holding a town hall, knocking on doors, listening to people about their concerns, bringing everybody in. i think it's so important if we are going to move forward in this country we've got to be able to talk to each other again. we've got to be able to see each other on some level. i found so much commonality between what we all want talking to democrats, republicans, independents, people are frustrated with the fractures. they are frustrated with the ugliness. what we pledged to do is run a completely positive campaign, vision based, on issues. hard to believe in politics these days but we made that
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commitment and we followed through and i think what you saw resoundingly from the voters was not only were they tired of the jacksonville that wasn't moving forward at a pace they would like but they were really tired of the ugly. this is a community that went through three bouts of breast cancer with me. we built a really strong bond over the years while i was on the air. people prayed for me, and i created a foundation for them. -- there was a lot going on here but i think i had a very deep rooted relationship. we lived a shared life with folks here. i felt like if anybody had an opportunity to bring in folks from across the aisle, i had that opportunity. and then i had the most amazing campaign manager in the world pat mcculloch, in amazing women who came in with a grassroots plan from day one and just lead that thing like a general. we were the only campaign to qualify for the petition, we got 9000 signatures and then we
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just kept on rolling with a grassroots army that turned out to be comprised of folks from all across the political spectrum. really grateful and optimistic that we can take that unity message and move it forward. i think you are seeing some fatigue with a lot of the hateful politics out there. >> it's no secret, i love your shout out, first of, all of the campaign's deputy is there the heart and soul of how these things are often won. it's no secret that democrats have been having a hard time in florida over recent years. here is governor ron desantis, here's what he had to recently say about this, i'll talk to you about it on the other side. >> what used to be a swing state, now the democratic party in florida is a hollow show. it's like a dead carcass on the side of the road. we have beat the left in the state of florida. >> a hollow shell. what is your view on that? what do you think about the state of the democratic party in florida?
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. >> listen, when we embarked on this race i said there is nothing that succeeds like success. you have to give people reason to hope and you have to give people a reason to believe that all of us can come together to create some sort of a system where all voices are heard. i'm so glad you have cory booker on today. he was one of the people that actually had a video out, i follow cory all the time. we are very similar in the way that we message. i think it's so important to stay up here and i think if you can give people a reason to be optimistic and hopeful and do that with policy involves where you show them what you can do to actually make their lives better at keeping kitchen table level. i think that's the way forward. i don't think it is a mutual food fight, i really don't. i think it is a message of unity and a message of hope and what we can do together. >> people are trying to re-tea leaves here, get a little hopeful, the republican party in florida said this about your when.
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it's a joke to imply it's an indicator of how this day is going to perform. what's your reaction to that? >> like i said, i think there's a lot of political theater that goes into politics and i said that from the very beginning. i've been in the media for a long time. i know how it works, i've covered politics my whole life. i've been on the other side of it, interview just about every politician in the world including president obama. but i know how these things go and i said at the end of it when it's all over and we have to leave, we have to lead, it's all about relationships. i would say that that is what the head of the gop is going to say and we will find out. i think people are very anxious here to build bridges and i'm going to do everything i can to do the >> it's a former boss, president biden, i hope he does call you, maybe he has already, i to win florida in 2024. what would you say to him? >> listen, president biden also is just an incredibly positive human being. i think he has made incredible
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overtures across the aisle. i would just tell him to continue to build those relationships. i think that's what it's all about, making sure that everybody has a voice and continuing to just tell people that we are about hope and we are about the ability to make change if we all work together. i think he is right on message with that. >> mayor-elect donna deegan, congratulations again. thank you for spending time with me this afternoon. coming up, a potential collision course between a charging decision in georgia and the first republican debate. i've got some pointers for trump's gop rivals on how they may want to handle that. plus the very latest on the looming debt ceiling disaster. president biden is on his way back from asia right now to continue negotiating with kevin mccarthy. and later, fox news proves yet again that anything fitting their narrative is worth talking about whether it's true or not we'll be right back. we'll be right back
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candidates preparing to jump into the race in the coming days and weeks i wanted to give a moment to give them a little unsolicited advice. definitely unsolicited, about how and when they might take on donald trump. i want me to explain myself here, so this week we learned that the former president could face potential charges in early august about his attempts to interfere in the 2020 election in georgia. that would be a very big deal. fulton county g8 funny willis told her staff to work remotely and asked judges not to schedule trials in the first half of august, which is signaling a narrow timetable for her charging decisions in this case. she wants staff to stay home, she wants judges to stay home. so it also seems like there is something pretty big coming. of course, we don't know yet what if, any charges this georgia case will bring, or how they will play. but we do know this case is centered around efforts to
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overturn the results of a democratic election. it's all about democracy, and the district attorney is signaling that if charges come they will probably becoming an august. do you know what else is happening in august? the first republican presidential primary debate. yes. i mean, trump may skip the debate, we probably won't know until we are much, much closer. but regardless the debate will be a huge opportunity for new candidates out there. in a crowded field they offer perhaps your best opportunity to have a moment, that people remember, that helps you raise money, that makes her candidacy stand out. you may be thinking to yourself, i want to stay away from trump's legal troubles. after all, when he was indicted in the hush money case, 68% of gop voters stood by him and deemed the investigations politically motivated, according to nbc news poll. most of you white house oh fools chose not to attack him. i don't agree with it but i get it.
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but trust me, this one is different. because this one is about our democracy. this one is also on tape. >> so, look, all i want to do is this. i just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have because we won the state. so what are we going to do here, folks? i only need 11,000 votes. fellas, i need 11,000 votes. give me a break. fellas, i need 11,000 votes, give me a break. i mean, it is so hard to believe that that was a phone call between president and secretary of state and not a scene from the godfather movie. so if you are one of the republican candidates preparing to be on the debate stage in august, here is a pretty simple attack line to get your creative juices flowing. i'm sure you can do better. votes are turned, not found i'm going to earn your vote. that was on me, free of charge. if you are still feeling unsure about whether or not to raise
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this when you get on that stage, consider this. your ultimate goal is to end up in the oval office, right? and in 2022, election denial was unpopular in general elections. almost every single candidate in battleground states who denied or question the results of the 2020 elections lost. it turns out standing up for democracy isn't just the right thing to do, it is also popular. it's not just democrats seeing this or proving this. just take georgia. in georgia, republican secretary of state brad raffensperger first repeated trump's election fraud claims to trump on the phone, than to voters across the state. and he was reelected. over an election denier. republican governor brian kemp refused to overturn biden's win in georgia. he was reelected as well, over trump's handpicked choice to replace him. and he is very popular in georgia today. i am sure all of you republican candidates out there notice that. and just this week in kentucky, kentucky, very red kentucky,
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republican secretary of state michael adams took down two challengers who campaigned on claims of voter fraud. so republican candidates out there, you have your strategy. we have given you some research. there is more where that comes from. i even gave use a sample attack line to get all those creative wheels turning. you have just been over two months until the debate. or prepare accordingly. and no pressure. it is just your political future, of course, whether or not you are in the oval office, and our democracy in the line. up next, we are getting closer to june 1st, when the u.s. can default. if president biden and govern mccarthy can't make a deal. senator smith says biden should consider going around mccarthy altogether. i will ask you about that, and later my thoughts about a very revealing week in the light of right-wing media. we'll be right back. ht back. ♪ ♪
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and congress always seems to wait until the last possible moment to negotiate anything. that is typically how it goes. but what is happening now does feel a little bit different. time is running out for congress to raise the debt ceiling. they have until early june to avoid an economic calamity. president biden cut his trip to asia shore and he is on his way back now because he knows there are some republicans in the house just crazy enough to let the united states default. and lots of democrats in congress know they might be crazy enough to. that is why dozens of lawmakers have been urging the president to prepare to invoke the 14th amendment. here's what biden had to say about that option before heading home from japan. >> we will not come up with unilateral action that could succeed in the matter of two weeks or three weeks. that is the issue. so it is up to lawmakers. but my hope and intention is that we will resolve this problem and find the rationale to take it to court to see -- the 14th amendment is in fact, something that we can stop.
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this >> joining me now is democratic senator chalkiness mitt. she is one of those lawmakers who has been urging the president to take a look at the president -- as you heard the president say there, he is open to. it is obviously never been done before, but it is a matter of time. senator smith, do you wish that the president in the white house had looked into the 14th amendment earlier? >> well, jen, i think that the president is demonstrating what we know and love about him, which is his commitment to coming up with some sort of a reasonable agreement. i mean, if anybody can figure out how to negotiate a reasonable agreement with these republicans in the house, it is joe biden. but that is the challenge, because they are essentially engaging in this extortion game. they are essentially saying, agree with us on making cuts to programs for seniors and kids and families working and low itch jobs or we will drive the economy off the cliff. our goal is just to make sure that the president's, and
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everybody, including those republicans, are aware that it is -- 14th amendment. >> so, the extortion game is a good definition of it, i think. that house bill, especially senator smith, president biden said, it is clear there will be a negotiation. he will not agree to a deal on partisan terms, you would alluded to that is well. i want to gain a better understanding about what you would be comfortable within a final package. a lot of these details are being debated. would you be okay with giving back unspent covid funds, for example? >> well, i think it depends on whether or not those unspent covid funds are truly on unaccounted for an on call for. but i think, i trust the president in the white house to be able to come to an agreement amongst, for them to put forth a reasonable deal. what bothers me is how the negotiating position and really, the demand of the republicans in the house seems to be, make these cuts and, oh, by the way, we won't even entertain any
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rollback of those giant tax cuts to wealthy people and big corporations. they are insisting those are made permanent over the next ten years, which would contribute over three trillion dollars to the federal debt. so they are actually, they're in favor of debt relief when that is the kind of proposal that they are looking at. the president and his team, which are really phenomenal, are doing the best job they can. i am very concerned that a reasonable agreement can be reached with mccarthy and marjorie taylor greene, and those other extremists in the house. so then the choice is what law do you follow? do follicle the law in the constitution? or do you follow this debt ceiling law, which looks to me like it very easily could be determined to be unconstitutional. >> so, it sounds to me like your pretty concerned at this point on a sunday, almost june, that there might not be a deal reached. is that an accurate depiction of what you said? >> well, i think we have to be realistic about what mccarthy
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can and will agree to. there is no sign, it is hard to feel optimistic over the next couple of days, in the ways that they have pulled back from negotiations and the ways in which they refused to take the federal government defaulting off the table. what i admire about what the president has done is he said, listen, i'm here to negotiate with you on what the contours of a federal budget should look like. how we can go about reducing the federal debt. but we have got to take this catastrophic and unprecedented default of the federal government off the table. because mccarthy refuses to do that, and seems to be doubling down on his, really extreme and demands, it does feel like extortion. the president is in a very tough situation. how does a deal with this? the important thing is that there are options that will protect the american people and, of course i worry, as i think a lot of people do, if the president gives into this now with, it would be catastrophic.
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it will not be the last time that this happens. >> well, it seems pretty clear, the president indicated that there is going to be a negotiation about some components at this point. even though it should just be raced cleanly, as it has been done many times in the past, he did draw a line in the sand overwork requirements for medicaid. would you be comfortable with any version of stricter work requirements for food stamps, or the temporary assistance for needing families, which is the other two areas? this of course, as you know, is a big controversial question, where there is a lot of opposition in the democratic caucus. >> right. well i share that position, because i am asking myself why what i ask a working family that is working in a low wage job, as young kids, why would i ask them to sacrifice and paid the price when these republicans in the house refused to even entertain the idea of closing ripples that allow their wealthy buddies and big corporations to not pay their fair share. that is fundamentally unfair.
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and i do not think it will contribute to the strength of our country going forward. and it is very expensive, as we think about the need to address the deficit. i give you that, we need to figure out how to address the deficit. but why do that only by looking at these ridiculous cuts and making it harder for working families to get ahead and get along. >> for a let you go, i just want to ask you about politics for a second here. you are the vice chair of the -- some republican strategists have said, on the record, very publicly, that if trump is the nominee would make it harder for republican senate candidates to defeat democratic incumbents. do you agree with that? >> well, trump being a nominee needs harder for our democracy. his threat to our democracy is a thing that i think is so concerning. what gives me a lot of hope in this moment is, i look at what happened with the elections in 2022, as we saw, young people, women across the board, rise up
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and say they wanted to make sure that their voices were counted. that made the difference in tough senate elections, in nevada, in pennsylvania. and there is every reason to believe that those same, that same sense of urgency amongst voters, especially young voters, is continuing. i think that is why we are going to have a lot of good luck and really good work in 2024. i am very optimistic about what is going to happen. >> senator tina smith, thank you so much for joining me this afternoon. coming up, fox news downplays a real story and plays a hoax. i will explain what it reveals about the white ring ecosystem. later, a run with senator cory booker as a part of his weekend and team. we will talk about physical and mental health and his own political future. we are back after a quick break. quic break. >> the u.s. has until june 1st
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to reach a deal, or, risk default. the president biden vowing more -- presidents lynskey at the g7 summit in japan. smolenski refuted claims from russia that it had taken the city of bakhmut. he also assured any -- trip to ukraine will not be used to carry out attacks against russia. inside with jen psaki continues after this. after th is kitchen tool? my brain. so i choose neuriva plus. unlike some others, neuriva plus is a multitasker supporting 6 key indicators of brain health. to help keep me sharp. neuriva: think bigger. hey guys, detect this: living with hiv, i learned that i can stay undetectable with fewer medicines. that's why i switched to dovato. dovato is for some adults who are starting hiv-1 treatment or replacing their current hiv-1 regimen. detect this: no other complete hiv pill uses fewer medicines to help keep you undetectable than dovato.
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reactions were any indication, the president, they want you to think the president was flat out lying. the >> this is the biggest lie you can imagine, it makes your skin crawl. it is really disgusting, it is divisive. >> it sure as hell isn't the one number one -- that is a, it is the most obvious lie -- >> what the left wants to do to restart race challenges in our country, i mean, dei is divide, exclude and indoctrinate. they want us to not get along. i >> think it's more cynical. i think it is actually evil to lie about america. that is not america, america is not racist. america is the least racist country in the world. >> so, for the people out there who only watched fox you might think that the threat of white supremacy is -- intentional in their part. fox news -- very specific menu of what they want their audience to be
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afraid of. things like the woke of mind virus, whatever that is, trans people, any trans person out there. or the biggie, migrants. any migrants coming in from the southern border. and sometimes they can't help but get caught up in their own momentum overall this. take for example the story that received a lot of coverage in right-wing media this week about hotels in upstate new york evicting homeless veterans to make room for migrants. >> we begin with the fox news -- it is no way to treat those who have put their lives on the line for the rest of us. sanctuary city merrier eric adams's busing legals to upstate new york, and what happens when they get there? homeless veterans are being kicked out of hotels to make room for the illegal immigrants. >> fox news kunce firms 20 homeless vets just got kicked out of several hotels in the suburbs north of manhattan to make room for those migrants getting bussed in from the city. >> this is a health keeps tory, okay? fox's is nate foyer now
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confirms that the displaced vets are now safely in a different hotel. >> we know what the intention was. second class citizens are veterans. primary, most celebrated citizens, you get all the benefits. non citizens, fraudulent, asylees. >> those were just the taste of some of the breathless coverage from fox. we could've filled the show from it. and for some, the cable network that platforms locks of white nationalist talking points, is kind of the perfect story. that is what is scary. look at how they prioritize foreign migrants over homeless veterans. if they did that to them, what would they do to you out there, fox viewers? and even elected republicans jumped in and ran with it. the third ranking house republican elise ivana tweeted the -- it, biden's america. arkansas senator tom -- suns up the biden pregnant didn't see. but here's the thing. of the two stories i've mentioned so far, president
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biden calling white supremacy the number one domestic terrorist threat back by data, also true and migrants displacing homeless veterans, only one is based in actual fact, thanks to some great journalism from local news outlets, it turns out that story about veterans being evicted because of the incoming migrants was completely evils. there was never any veterans kicked out of the hotel. according to the manager there, there were never any veteran staying in the hotel to begin with. the entire story was predicated on the fabricated lies of a nonprofit group. this alternative receipt to make it like it actually paid for hotel rooms. can you imagine what possessed them to do that? they recruited vulnerable homeless meant to play the part of the victims veterans. now, fox isn't the first media organization to get burned by hoax. they won't be the last. but if you think about it, this past week was very telling about these patterns on the right. and in right-wing media. downplay the inconvenient
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running. not for president, at least not anytime soon. he is actually running every single day, rain or shine, to demonstrate the importance of exercise on a physical and mental health. i joined him for one of his morning workouts to talk about healthy habits and everything else on his plate in the u.s. senate. >> hello. senator booker, good to see you. >> great to see you. >> thank you for inviting me on your morning run. >> i am so psyched. great, let's go. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> so, you are a pretty -- runner? >> i have a streak going now that is -- 500 days in a row of running. >> wow. so you run cold, rain, sleet? you are like the postal service. >> i want today's that used to be excuses not to run for me,
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but now i get the sense of triumph of how long i can keep the streak going. >> and what made you start running? >> i started, i guess almost two years ago now. there was this frustration about a political dialogue and, you know, the tension growing in our country. i think we are suffering from a -- sense of well-being. and connection. i realized that, maybe i can do something for myself and be an example, live my truth as best as possible, because so much of our well-being is connected to or daily habits, or ability to connect. >> because it is a mental health thing for you, as well as physical? >> it is definitely a mental health thing for me. it has helped me not only improve my own health but also my overall sense of well-being, since personal triumph, -- areas in my life. >> you rock.
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>> it can't believe i reached you. >> so i want to feature you want to cory story. >> i am so honored. as a viewer and follower. >> and as an aspiring person to me, and i'm sure to other people. >> thank you. listening to you. >> i'm wondering if you have an inspiring story or -- that you can inspire folks with. >> i think a lot about advice my mother's given me. the piece of advice she gave me, the night before my first -- was this, even if you feel stressed, if you feel pressure, keep your feet grounded on the ground and keep your spine stiff. nothing can blow you away. and of course it is physical, but it is also spiritual. because what it means is, stay true to who you are in your own values and who you know you are and don't let external forces try to blow you over. >> i love that. thank you. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> hi senator booker! great to see you again. we have cleaned up since our
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runs this morning. your parents were among the first black executives at ibm, and very important near life. what is the biggest lesson you learn from them? >> i think that james waltman is right. children never listen to their elders, but they never failed to imitate them. so there are just really good that live -- lives and made me and my brother feel, as we were growing up, the ridiculous blessings we had. number one, to be the 4% of humanity to call yourself an american. but more importantly it, especially as a black american, how blessed we were to get to where we were. and how much of a debt my brother and i owed. we had to find a way to be hit forward, because we could never payback. >> one of the areas you have been pretty passionate about is your role on the agriculture committee. tell me a little bit about why that is an area of passion for you, and what do people not know about how issues --
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committee impact them? >> every issue i think americans care about, either -- food is the source of life. we have a system that has become so corrupted by these large multinational corporations, if you don't care about independent family farmers, who don't care about farmworkers, we don't care about the quality or health of our food. they don't care about the long javid e of the human species because we weigh over use idiotic's. we have a system that drives down the cost of a happy meal that does it because ultimately, long term happy, in terms of our health, and drives up the cost of the foods that are more healthy. we are a nation that was formed because we believe in life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. you can't have any of those unless your food system is vital and fresh and healthy. >> you have a friendship with senator tim scott. >> yes. >> he is someone you said you love. >> i friendships with tim scott,
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dan sullivan, i can go through a lot of republicans that i formed legitimately good friendships here with. that is the way you get things done. this is not by vilifying or dehumanizing people who disagree with, but finding words of common humanity. >> -- intrigued by his presidential aspiration, know about him? >> i think that as i look at this republican field, he may be one of those people that is underestimated. >> in 2016 and 2020 you talk a lot about how you can't fight hate with hate, in regards to donald trump. even said many times, i love him. i love you, donald trump. do you still feel that way about him? >> well, the -- my spirituality comes from the simple idea, love your neighbor, love those who hate you. never let somebody pull you so low to make you hate them. i voted to impeach the guy twice. i think he has committed crimes. but how do you fight that? well, history to meet teaches
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very well. how do we fight, in our country, bill connor? did martin luther king day bring bigger dogs and bigger high fire hoses? or did he find a way with these elements of hate and bigotry and divisiveness, did you find a way to change the frequency? because king said it right. the problem today is not the vitriol or words and violent actions of the bad people only. it is the appalling silence and inaction of the good people. >> you have run for president once. >> yes. >> you have now been in the senate for a while. are you a senate life or? or are there other things you aspire to as well. >> i have found the best me to make god life is to make plans for yourself. i love the job, thank you new jersey, and will most -- 26, but we will see what the future holds. if i ran for president for a purpose. and one of that was healing our country, bringing us together again, to see a more common purpose and a common cause.
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leguizamo has been in more than 100 films adobe shows, his latest project is right here on msnbc. leguizamo does america is a six-part series from -- inside america's thriving latino communities. i recently had a chance to talk to john about everything he has learned along the way. >> john leguizamo, thank you so much for joining me today. of the six cities who visited, what was the biggest thing you learned? >> well, you know, what i wanted to do with this show was i wanted to look for excellence across america. i went to what i used to call the rice and beans comedy circuit, which are the 20 biggest cities in america for one people and --
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we start going to those cities one by one and going to the cities, you just find so many incredible latin people doing incredible things who don't lose hope, who, fight against lack of funding, lack of support for many group, from the government, and they still are building communities by themselves and thriving. and that touched me very much. >> now, we are sitting in washington, d.c. right now, of course. the capital is right over there. it is a beautiful -- >> it is looking over us. >> it's a beautiful view. in your d.c. episode you mentioned that 20% of the u.s. population is latin, yet the latino people make up less than 2% of elected officials. that's a pretty startling statistic or number, when you hear that. what did you learn or see as the biggest barriers for latinos to become elected officials? >> well, you know, it is interesting because we are the oldest ethnic group in american, aside from -- the severed america, we've been here for 500 years before -- great empires.
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and we have had political power that was taken from us many times. in the 18 hundreds, and it was promised to us by the texans and then taken away from us. and repatriation act, -- deported 2 million american citizens who are latinos. i mean, constantly, our power has been taken away. it has been hard to build a platform where we are elected officials. it is hard. look, texas is 40% latino. you have got less than 1% of elected officials. >> i mean, trump has made a little bit of inroads. as have republicans. >> when he signed those checks with his name -- >> people knew the money came from him. >> yes. lots and people were really impressed by that. they said, that's incredible. >> he just -- trump just signed social securities tracks with his own personal moniker. and you will get us. >> so, what do you think the democrats should be doing? what is the message they should be carrying? >> they need to add consultants. they need to support all of
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these grassroots latinos that are up against senators in arizona, where we are 30% of the population. you can get us there. but support our candidates. give them real money, so they can have a real fighting chance. >> it's been a pleasure speaking with you. >> thank you for having me. >> you can watch the final episode of leguizamo does america tonight, that is a ten pin eastern at msnbc and streaming on peacock. that does it for me today. we will be back here next sunday at noon eastern time. but stay right where you are, because there is much more news ahead right here on msnbc. d right here on msnbc. >> tonight on the lab matty hassan show, donald trump's legal team in meltdown mode, with accusations of interference on the doj investigation. plus, public enemy number one, ron desantis, hasn't even enter the presidential race yet, but

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