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about the celtics. hanging on, hanging on. is there any part of you that believes they're going to come back and win this series? >> so i've already talked myself into it, willie. obviously. i was so disheartened by game three, they were blown out, looked like they quit on the court. game five is at home. suddenly it's 3-2. all the pressure at that point is on the heat in miami game six, you get to a game seven, anything can happen. sitting last night courtside, derek jeter and alex rodriguez who blew a 3-0 series lead. >> i knew you'd get a yankees shot in. >> that was terrific. >> that does it for us this morning, we'll see you right back here tomorrow morning, for now yasmin vossoughian picks up the coverage.
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>> hey, hey, everybody. it's 10:00 a.m. in the east. i'm yasmin vossoughian in for ana cabrera. the battle for the white house will welcome a long-awaited newcomer today, ron desantis, after months of speculation and campaign style events, the florida governor will make it official tonight on twitter with none other than elon musk. will the unusual rollout help or hurt the soon to be candidate? >> do i have the courage? is it worth the sacrifice? america has been worth it every single time. >> and then what about the other elephant in the room, donald trump, the former president already telling desantis to get a, quote, personality trait as he puts it. plus, south carolina, set to become the latest state to ban abortion after six weeks making it virtually impossible to get an abortion across a huge portion of the south. and later on, new details on the
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19-year-old who drove a u-haul truck into a white house barrier. more on his interviews with police as he's set to make a court appearance this afternoon as well. we're requesting to begin with the long-awaited announcement from florida governor ron desantis who's set to make his bid official on twitter with elon musk. joining us is dasha burns from miami, former republican congressman from florida, and atimo omara democratic strategist. dasha, let me start with you on this one, and take us through the abcs of what we know so far, what we can expect as this thing is launched on twitter of all places. >> reporter: maybe expect the unexpected. we all know that elon musk is an unpredictable character. this will be live on twitter spaces. it's the website's audio platform. this is an unconventional way to announce a white house bid. that's sort of the point, right?
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this is a soon to be candidate that likes to bypass traditional media. this is a way to do that and a way to use elon musk's massive reach. this is a guy that has 140 million twitter followers, many who will be tuning in tonight to see what is happening here. not only is it the sort of tactical piece of getting a large number of viewers here, but there's also the message that the campaign is trying to send here according to the sources that i've been speaking with, which is they're trying to set up that contrast with the former president without actually invoking his name, which is something that desantis has been doing during his campaign style stops already. they want to create that contrast of past versus future, and elon musk very much so with his brand represents a futurist vision. and so they're hoping to get that across tonight, and as we talked about, you know, we don't know exactly how this is going to land and how this is going to play.
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in fact, musk himself has mentioned that. he talked about what we might see tonight at an event yesterday. take a listen. >> it will be the first time something like this is happening on social media, and with realtime questions and answers, not scripted. so it's going to be live and let's see what happens. >> reporter: we will see what happens indeed. and let's not forget this is a platform that was once former president trump's domain. this is how he got to people. this was his super power in a way, right? and so that might be another subtle or not so subtle jab at the former president using place that he once sort of called his own as a launching pad here. yasmin. >> david jolly, how do you continue to successfully not invoke the former president's name if you're running against him in a primary, at what point does he have to make the turn,
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of course, without alienating the trump base? >> that's right. yasmin, this is desantis's fundamental weakness. for somebody with incredible vanity and confidence, right? an ad that says on the eighth day god created ron desantis, someone who has an outsized egois unwilling to take on donald trump. i think his announcement on twitter is a doubling down of this vulnerability ron desantis has. he's reminding the world that he's a uniquely unlikable person, and he's associating with someone else who is uniquely unlikable in elon musk. he's leaning into the weird if you will on this one. an audio announcement on twitter, not a grand public event suggests that ron desantis is also that candidate that has to have his safe space, and so even when we've seen him trying to take on donald trump, he uses the passive voice, i'm tired of a culture of losing. he won't call donald trump a loser like chris sununu and others will.
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i think, listen, coming off the contrast of tim scott's announcement, whatever you think of tim scott he reminded republican voters what it's like to have a personable, aspirational, likable candidate in stark contrast to both trump and ron desantis. ron desantis i believe is making some early missteps with this announcement. >> that's exactly right. i just don't understand how it is he feels as if he can continue this way, david, in not invoking the former president president's name if he wants to beat him. we certainly know donald trump will continue to evoke ron desantis's name and call him out and call him names. as we get closer and closer to the primary season, it's going to become a lot harder. >> that's right. the republican primary analysis i would offer is i'm watching to see if ron desantis has already hit his ceiling. what i mean by that is it appears to people who are supporting ron desantis, the 20 to 25% who have been with him for a year are those in the party who said we like donald trump, we voted for donald trump, maybe we vote for him
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again. desantis is a successful governor, and we're with him. but desantis has proven unable to take a loyal trump voter. that's why trump's still at 50, 60%. what is the message that allows him to do that? it's not just calling the big guy a loser, you've got to show them something educational. i think the story of his campaign his ceiling was on his announcement day. >> we got a little bit of a teaser from casey desantis. let's play a bit of that and then we'll talk. >> they call it fate because in the face of darkness, you can see that brighter future, a faith that our best days lay ahead of us, but is it worth the fight? do i have the courage? is it worth the sacrifice? >> how do you think this type of
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ad is going to play to the voter that he's going for? >> i mean, he's certainly putting forward a legend in his own mind and maybe trying -- he's a legend in his own mind, that's number one. number two, he's definitely somebody who is really trying to sort of appeal to folks who want to be ready to fight, energize, sort of that trump supporter trying to pull them away. i think the most interesting thing about him doing this announcement on twitter is definitely i agree with congressman jolly, that he is absolutely somebody who does not like to be held accountable or questioned by the media or his political opponents, and so it's no surprising he's doing this twitter launch this way, not going to do a big splashy launch. he's not doing a sit-down with a reporter per se. also the fact this is a strategic point some folks are missing. he needs to win the billionaire
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primary. he needs to have a lot of money to even try to take on donald trump. there's a lot of articles that have been out lately that have said billionaires are holding back their coins quite frankly to see what's next, and so this is definitely something where he can be in front of a bunch of tech millionaires and billionaires who have, you know, right wing politics to really spread the news and see if he can get more money that way. >> there's a conversation we're having about the primary ris. you see what ron desantis is doing in florida, anti-lgbtq laws, book banning as well, six-week abortion ban. how could that play if he's able to hit the national stage? >> i think after the last two years in republican politics, any republican nominee is going to face a general election challenge. and ron desantis probably being first and foremost. he likes to position himself as a strong man in american
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politics. the problem is america knows that strong men in politics are rarely people of actual strength. they're people who punched out, who marginalized communities like the lgbt community, the migrant community, the african american community. in the case of ron desantis, ban books, deny science, and deny history. what we have learned since the trump era is that type of grievance, culture war, angry conservative politics actually elevates you in the republican party but leads to general election losses. ron desantis is woefully out of touch with a general election voter come 2024. >> thank you. from there i want to go to south carolina, the state senate passing a six-week abortion ban late yesterday before most people know they're pregnant. the bill now heads to the republican governor's desk, he's expected to sign it into law, meaning an end to most abortions in one of the last states in the
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south with access. led by the only five women who serve it, the five, three republicans, an independent and a democrat were nicknamed the sister senators. here is republican state senator katrina shely. >> no one believes what is being pushed on the citizens of south carolina, but those of you who are here just for the next election or where you want to go from here, so shame on you. you should be here for the people you serve now, especially for the women. >> let's bring in nbc news washington correspondent yamiche alcindor to talk more about this. this essentially creates a desert for abortion care in the southeast now with this law. talk us through what this means. >> well, we can talk about the regional impact which is that south carolina joins a long list of southern states that have now passed restrictive abortion
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bills since roe v. wade was overturned last year. in this bill, it bans abortions after a fetal heartbeat is detected, which is usually around six weeks. the south carolina governor is expected to sign this bill, the senate passed it 27-19. we should say when it comes to south carolina politics, this was seen as a compromise bill which can be hard to understand on the national stage here. the south carolina house wanted to pass a near total ban of all abortions, the south carolina state senate pushed back on that and the compromise was the six-week ban. this is a time period where a number of women might not even know they are pregnant. the regional impact here is that if you go to the south now, if you look at that map you just put up. virginia is one of the only places that has less restrictive access to abortion in the sort of driving distance of south carolina. we should also note that south carolina passed a similar bill to this, a six-week ban in 2021, and the state supreme court in south carolina said that it was not giving women enough time to
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sufficiently know they were pregnant. there are going to be lawsuits expected here including from planned parenthood. it's still a big question whether or not the south carolina supreme court could strike this down. >> you think about who this is going to affect, the disinfranchised women, pregnant women four times that of their white counterparts. we are thankful for you. coming up, everybody, the driver who crashed a u-haul, details of his disturbing interview with police. the billionaire friend of supreme court justice clarence thomas is refusing to turn over information to the senate judiciary committee. i'm going to speak to democratic senator sheldon whitehouse. up first, it has been one year seasons the tragic uvalde shooting claimed the lives of 19 students and two teachers and the community is still grieving.
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frustration overall because of the lack of answers, and of course a lack of accountability when it comes to law enforcement. we now know they waited in the hallways of that school over an hour before they confronted the gunman, and that investigation you mentioned is still ongoing while they wait for answers. today of course on this anniversary, much of the focus will be on the healing. for the parents who lost children on that terrible day one year ago, sometimes it feels like yesterday, other times like an eternity. >> don't ever want them to forget her kids. >> they've had the world in front of them, so much potential. >> reporter: tom llamas recently sat down with three grieving mothers whose children were among the 19 students killed. veronica loss her 10-year-old tess, kimberly rubio's daughter lexi was just 10. they and other uvalde families have been calling for stricter
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gun laws and are angry. >> guns are idolized, that's more important than children, our children. >> you think guns are more important than children in this country? >> that's -- that's, yes. >> when did you come to that realization? >> the day my daughter died. >> reporter: the community still searching for answers about that day, when it took police 77 minutes to enter the school and stop the shooter. school district police chief pete arredondo was voted out unanimously last summer, though his lawyers have said he is not at fault. there are local and national investigations into the delayed response. and a state report last year found that the shooter left a number of red flags online but was still able to purchase $5,000 worth of guns and ammunition. >> you've got to look internally. you've got to hold up the mirror now. >> parents demanding the school district take threats seriously in the future. >> we're still stuck on may 24th. i think it's time that we start
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doing something better. >> reporter: today educators say they have no choice but to move forward. >> we've done a whole lot in a short amount of time. there's still a lot of parents who don't feel safe. >> reporter: a community looking for a fresh start with a new campus set to replace robb elementary, construction scheduled to begin this summer including a massive tree memorial for the victims being remembered today one year later. that new school, of course, will be a fresh start for those students. there is a candlelight vigil scheduled here tonight. that has been organized by the families. it is open to the public, but with some restrictions. they are asking for the media to keep distance as they go through this emotional day on this anniversary here in uvalde. certainly is an emotional day. guad venegas for us, thank you. coming up next, the clock is ticking towards the debt ceiling catastrophe, and democrats say
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welcome back. in just a couple of hours, the driver arrested after crashing into security barriers are going to to make their first
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appearance in federal court. 19-year-old sai varshith car doula said he wants to get to the white house, seize power and be put in charge of the nation. he nbc news justice correspondent ken dilanian is with us. what are the charges that are being weighed? >> good morning, yasmin, the suspect made a first appearance in d.c. superior court yesterday. and as of now, he's only been charged with degradation of government property. additional charges can be added later. it's not clear if that could happen today. initially he'd be charged with threatening to harm the president. authorities say in court documents that kandula flew from st. louis to dulles airport outside of washington, d.c.,
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monday evening where he rented that u-haul and drove straight to the white house. that's where he allegedly crashed the truck into a barrier a block from the presidential residence. during an interview, kandula said his goal was to get to the white house, seize power and be put in charge of the nation. when agents asked him how he would seize power, he said he would kill the president if that's what i have to do and hurt anyone that would stand in my way. the documents also say kandula removed that nazi flag from the truck after the crash and told agents he bought the flag because nazis have a great history. he allegedly says he admired their authoritarian nature and admires adolf hitler. so some real questions about this suspect's mental health. >> really disturbing stuff, we thank you for that. so as the clock ticks down towards a potential economic crisis, democrats are saying talks to raise the debt ceiling
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have hit a quote, unquote, speed bump. a democratic official familiar with the negotiations telling nbc news that house speaker kevin mccarthy and his team are refusing to compromise. for his part mccarthy reportedly told fellow republicans in a closed door meeting they are nowhere near a deal. here's mccarthy earlier this morning. >> we have to spend less than we spent last year. that is the starting point. >> how much less? >> well, that's part of the negotiation. democrats don't even want to spend less. they want to spend more. that's unreasonable. >> joining us now nbc news white house correspondent mike memoli and congressman charlie dunn. welcome to you both. bring us up to date, i just said it, it seemed as if republicans are somewhat unwilling to corp. mize. where is the compromise coming from when we're looking at the white house? >> reporter: talk about a speed bump, the president raced home from that trip to asia, cut it short so he could get back here to enter negotiations.
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since he had that meeting monday with speaker mccarthy we're not hearing of much progress. that's one reason why we're hearing the white house really increasingly point the finger the other way, try to paint the republicans as unreasonable. they're putting on the table what the president has shown willingness to compromise and with a warning that we're about to get into washington budget speak, here we go, the president has offered to freeze government spending at the next two years at existing levels. when you factor in inflation, the white house characterizes that as a cut in spending. they're talking about returning unspent covid money, that could be up to $30 billion, and they also point out, i mentioned the two-year cap on spending. that's been how these budget agreements typically work in the past, when we've seen these kind of agreements before, that's really the length of what they're talking about, republicans seem to be insisting on a ten-year freeze in spending which the white house isn't willing to talk about. then you get into what the white house is saying, here's where our compromise is, where's the
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republican compromise. they're pointing out that one of the chief assets the president put on the table, increasing revenue as well as cutting spending, that's a sure fire way to cut debt and deficits. they're saying specially that speaker mccarthy is at the whims of his most extreme right members of his caucus who say the republicans have already passed a bill. that's the red line, we're not willing to go beyond that, and trying to force negotiations forward a little bit. a concerning sign there are no negotiation at least as far as the principles are concerned and we're starting to see an increasing war of words on the sides. >> that is a heck of a lot of budget talk, appreciate that. 10:00 a.m. here in the morning in the east. congressman let's talk about what we're hearing when it comes to some of the budget talk mike memoli walked us through, and treasury secretary yellen speaking out a couple of minutes ago. i want to play for you some of what she had to say, and then we'll chat. >> i think a deal was possible,
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they're working toward an agreement that could command bipartisan support, and those negotiations continue. >> it seems a bit more optimistic than she was a couple of days ago but has insisted repeatedly the consequences could be dire either way. we're going to see some market distress with what's going on in washington right now. what do you make of what she just said? >> we all know there's going to be a debt ceiling increase. the question is it will happen before or after a catastrophic economic event. i do think there is going to be an agreement. we're going to go through a lot of fits and starts between now and then. the house position is one that was dead on arrival in the senate. at the end of the day, you're going to see a small agreement, a spending cap agreement for two or more years. rescind some of the covid moneys. i think mccarthy has a problem on his hands. he needs to get more than half of his conference to vote for this. they seem to be pretty confident
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they will, count me as skeptical. they'll trash the deal whatever it. if they don't get an agreement fairly soon, they're going to need to do a short-term extension of the debt ceiling for maybe up to two weeks so they can, you know, write the bill and do the reviews, but they're not near an agreement yet. >> do you think mccarthy is going to be able to get those house democrats on board if he can't get his caucus to vote in favor? >> if past is prologue, he's going to need a whole lot of democratic votes. i was always one of the guys when i served in the house who was part of these agreements. >> this is a different time than when you served, much different. >> correct, but it was always a small number of republicans voting with the democrats. look, i hope they get a bigger number of republicans, call me skeptical. they're going to need a lot of democrats, probably at least 100 in the house to make this thing work.
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if things get really bad, that's when senator mcconnell gets off the sidelines, cuts a deal with joe biden and schumer, and they send a bill over to the house and jam the house. >> let me play the mcconnell sound. he doesn't seem as worried. let's hear what mcconnell had to say. >> look, i think everybody needs to relax. the last ten times, the last ten times we raised the debt ceiling, there were things attached to it. this is not that unusual. >> regardless of what may be said about the talks on a day-to-day basis, the president and the speaker will reach an agreement. it will ultimately be passed on a bipartisan vote in the house and senate. >> is he telling everybody to relax because he understands the power he has at the end of the day to get it done if he has to? >> i think so. i'm not as confident, though, as senator mcconnell is that there will be an agreement between joe biden and kevin mccarthy. i hope there is, but you know, we're not yet -- the markets aren't panicking yet. when they start panicking, does
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mcconnell change his position, get off the sidelines, get in the game and take control of things. at the moment, he's relaxing. everybody's relaxing. i remember 2011 markets were panicking, and we cut that deal almost immediately upon the standard & poor's downgrade back then. so expect the same thing now. everybody's calm until they're not. >> yeah, congressman, thank you. >> thank you. >> great to see you. >> mike memoli, thank you as well. coming up next, could the special counsel's investigation of donald trump be coming to a close? the possible clue the former president just dropped. plus, after reports about private plane rides and lavish vacations involving supreme court justice clarence thomas, his billionaire friend is refusing to cooperate with the senate judiciary committee. senator sheldon whitehouse who sits on the panel joins me next. we'll be right become. on the p. we'll be right become. store your things until you're ready. then we deliver to your new home -
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a date has been set for the trial involving donald trump's alleged hush money payments to stormy daniels, the trail will begin march 25th, 2024. that news revealed as trump appeared in court via video for a hearing in the case. i want to bring in lisa rubin who watched this whole thing and was reporting on this for us all day yesterday as well. let's talk first about the order for the former president and also his demeanor throughout yesterday's hearing. >> i would say he started the hearing dour and then he grew progressively more animated and a little bit angry, particularly when the judge set that march 25th trial date because he told the parties you can't enter any commitments, personal, professional or otherwise that would prevent you from starting a trial on march 25th and seeing it through to its completion, and at that point donald trump looked at his lawyer and went like this, meaning that's a no-go for me. i'm supposed to be campaigning for president. the judge made it clear to him
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the order doesn't prevent him from campaigning. it doesn't prevent him from defending himself. all it does is prevent him from disclosing or posting the contents of evidence in the case on social media and has some other restrictions as well. >> he was pretty hard and fast about that date as well. >> he was hard and fast, and said you can't substitute lawyers unless they're prepared to go forward on that date too. >> several outlets as well, "politico," "new york times" reporting trump's attorneys they want to meet with a.g. merrick garland about the classified documents probe. what kind of hint does this give you about that ongoing investigation? >> i think it corroborates the reporting. it underscores that the reporting is probably real that jack smith is nearing the end of that investigation, but it also tells me that they're spoiling for a political fight as well as a legal one, by asking to meat with garland who really isn't in charge of that investigation. they're trying to set him up as a foil. garland and they know the
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special counsel regulations put jack smith in charge. he's not subject to the day-to-day supervision of the a.g., and the a.g. can overrule him only if he's recommending things that are unprecedented that garland has to intervene. by asking for that meeting with garland, sort of asking for it with the wrong person and they know that. >> lisa rubin, as always, we thank you. billionaire harlan crow refusing to cooperate with democrats investigating his relationship with supreme court justice clarence thomas. the senate judiciary committee asked crow for a list of gifts that he's given to thomas's family. in a letter to the panel, crow's attorney said, congress, quote, does not have the constitutional power to impose ethics rules and standards on the supreme court. the probe stands from reports by propublica that thomas failed to disclose trips and gifts paid for by crow. thomas called the gifts personal hospitality from a close friend which were exempt from disclosure rules at the time.
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joining me to talk more about this, a member of the committee, sheldon whitehouse. it's great to talk to you. i want to read for folks this tweet you sent out with regard to crow's attorneys' response to the ask by the senate committee saying there's a ritualistic quality to these, quote, separation of powers claims that are being made to protect justice thomas's ethics reporting problem from scrutiny. talk more about this. >> well, the seven-page letter by the lawyers i guess for harlan crow said that they wouldn't cooperate because the congress had no role here and what they failed to address is that the ethics reporting statute that we are investigating the enforcement of was, in fact, passed by congress, and the body that oversees the enforcement of that act passed by congress is called
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the judicial conference, and it is a body established by congress. so you have a law congress has passed being enforced by a body congress has created, and over decades the supreme court has never objected either to the law or to the body as having been created by congress. so this is a last minute invention and not a very convincing effort to forestall a proper investigation of the thomas ethics reporting scandal. >> so what are the next steps, senator, to compel crow to provide this information? >> well, on the finance committee side where they're looking at the tax disclosure piece, chairman wyden, chairman wyden is writing back to the lawyers to ask for further explanation because their explanation in the finance committee was no better and in the judiciary committee, we're going continue digging into
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this. we only got the letter just recently, so chairman durbin and the committee are going to continue to look into how to respond. but the idea that we just walk away from all this right now is not going to happen. >> i want to talk a little bit about some of your proposed changes specifically the, quote, supreme court ethics recusal and transparency act. what do you want to see change? >> well, i think there should be an ethics standard that applies to the court, and there should be a procedure so that you can find out if the ethics standard is actually being applied to the court. that really shouldn't be asking much. every other federal judge lives in that exact environment, and i think the other judges are getting a little bit irritated with the supreme court because they know that the supreme court's behavior is out of line. that would be topic a right now. we want more transparency in the disclosure so that they meet up with the disclosures of other top government officials across
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the federal government. we want clearer standards for recusal so that you actually explain why you were recused, and then i would actually love to see all the front groups that come in to tell the judges what to do, disclose who's really behind them, one basic thing when you show up at court is you know who's at the table next to you, and there are too many front groups showing up in court who are there just to obscure the real interest that is showing up. >> considering a look of transparency that you've seen so far, even the chief justice himself refusing to appear before your committee, how confident are you that you can get these changes done? >> well, i think the chief justice just yesterday said that he was looking at further changes. he understood this was a problem and they need to do more. that's a good sign, and then recently the judicial conference itself has dramatically tightened up one of the tricks
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that the supreme court was using to get free vacations and did so -- i mean, i couldn't have written the decision better myself. so i think that there's a real role for the judicial conference, the other judges to play in bringing the supreme court justices into alignment with what every other federal judge has to abide by. >> senator sheldon whitehouse, we thank you, sir. coming up next, everybody, we have heard a lot about how drugs like ozempic can help people lose weight, but could they also help fight addiction? plus, seeing red, the netflix password crackdown, it is upon us. we'll be right back. is upon us we'll be right back.
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murdaugh trial are familiar with. one of the things that's mentioned here and part of the charges is that alex murdaugh with help of a personal injury attorney essentially stole the proceeds from his housekeeper's death and the insurance proceeds relating to it. you'll remember that the housekeeper's son testified at his trial the allegations here include that he helped settle the estate's claim against his own homeowner's insurance policy, and then stole approximately $3.5 million from that settlement and used it solely for himself. the housekeeper's children never saw a dime from that. that's just one piece of this 22 count indictment, the first scheme that's listed lasted over 15 years and involves a variety of different means through which alex murdaugh stole money from settlements that he achieved for his clients and his private law firm practice and used people who worked at his law firm unknowingly to help him in perpetrating that fraud.
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>> lisa rubin, we appreciate you jumping on this for us. thank you. i want to turn now to a surprising side effect in patients using this popular weight loss drug. some users of ozempic and wegovia reported fewer cravings. researchers explored whether those medications could also treat addiction. for a long time, we knew this was a diabetes drug, right, it's now a drug to lose weight, and then suddenly they're finding it could help with addiction. >> what they're doing is they're hearing from people who are saying, huh, i'm having these crazy side effects. i'm not biting my nails as much. i'm not compulsively shopping. i'm not drinking alcohol, and researchers are saying we need to look into this. so it's early days. this is really anecdotal at this point, but there is some sense among scientists that there is something here.
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>> reporter: there's been an explosive amount of news around the drugs ozempic and wegovy. stories of dramatic weight loss plastered all over smaed. >> baby, the hype is real. >> the medications both containing the compound semaglutide make people feel fuller faster. something interesting seems to be happening, countless testimonials online describing side effects, positive ones that aren't related to food at all. no longer have any desire to drink alcohol, someone writes. another says i used to vape like a demon, quit cold turkey. this person comments, i comment buy scratchoff and lotto tickets, i don't think about it anymore. >> my official diagnosis was morbidly obese. >> reporter: janelle started taking wegovy over a year ago, losing 60 pounds since then. but that wasn't it. >> one drink for me is equivalent to about four or five
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drinks. >> reporter: how do you feel after having that one drink? >> the -- i feel miserable. >> reporter: corona once considered herself a social drinker. not anymore. >> something in your mind is saying, i'm just going to bypass. you have no interest in alcohol. >> reporter: the atlantic now asking the question, did scientists accidentally invent an antiaddiction drug? in a statement provided to nbc news, novo nordisk, the manufacturer of ozempic and wegovy says novo nordisk does not promote, suggest or encourage off label use of our medicines. evidence is anecdotal, but there have been animal studies on the overall class of drugs. >> it appears to have broad benefit across a variety of behavioral addictions as well as drug-based addiction. >> reporter: dr. greg stanwitz says the research is in its early stages and there is a growing sense drugs like ozempic
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are affecting dopamine, the feel good chemical released by the brain. >> it blunts the effect of dopamine in the brain and in that way it can provide relief from cravings. >> reporter: dr. stanford manages over 1,000 patients with obesity and diabetes with this class of drugs. she says roughly 5% have described other behavioral changes. >> what i mostly heard from my patients, those that have had a significant reduction in alcohol use disorder, impulsive buying. >> reporter: how big a deal would it be to have a drug that has that kind of effect on people who struggle with alcohol? >> i think it would be huge. many of my patients that have obesity also have a history of alcohol use disorder. >> reporter: two drugs already successfully treating obesity and diabetes, now showing they can potentially do a whole lot more. so researchers at the national institutes of health last week published an article that said they did a study on rodents, rats and mice, they saw that there was a decreased intake of
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alcohol on these drugs and that was assigned to them and they need to go to clinical trials. but we are, you know, years and years away from being able to prescribe these drugs specifically for something like alcohol. >> if you're a person with issues with alcohol, and this could be something that could be a solution for you, that is incredible to see. huge life changer. stephanie gosk, thank you. coming up next, a netflix chilling effect? the streaming giant's password crackdown, it's here. >> there is a million other streaming services i could use. bye! use bye! the pickleball club. who knew the subway series could get even better? me, i knew. maybe you should host a commercial then. sure, okay. subway series just keeps getting better. moderate to severe eczema still disrupts my skin. despite treatment
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welcome back, everybody. we knew it was coming. netflix's password crackdown, it's finally here. if your mom, your brother, your niece, your best friend, or even your third cousin twice removed
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is using your account, what do you need to know? nbc news caylee hatung has more on this. >> reporter: sharing is no longer caringing. as the company cracks down on users who may be mooching a pass word off a family member or a friend subscription. netflix is getting ready to press pause on password sharing. on tuesday, the company began sending emails to subscribers with a dreaded opening line, your netflix account is for you, and the people you live with. with that, the days of account sharing appear to be in their final act. >> sorrows, prayers. >> reporter: the streaming giant says it is rolling out the new rules gradually. asking users to set up their household by approving streaming devices on their home wi-fi. netflix says it will not use location data to find out where you're watching. instead, it will rely on ip addresses, device i.d.s and account activity to determine if
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you're watching from an approved screen. if not, you'll be asked to sign up for a new account, or pay $7.99 a month for each extra member. >> this is so annoying. this is horrible. >> reporter: the shutdown on sharing comes after the company reported a loss in subscribers last year. and said the 100 million households around the world that share their credentials are cutting into its bottom line. >> this should not happen. this is avoidable. >> reporter: earlier this year, they began cracking down on other companies, including spain, where more than 1 million users dropped the service after the rollout. the company called the cancel reaction, temporary. but some subscribers here may also pull the plug. >> paying additional people. there is a million other streaming services i can use. bye! >> reporter: if netflix can make it work, other streamers may follow suit. >> there's no doubt that every streamer is trying to figure out how to get the most money out of their members.
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if they see netflix is very successful in cracking down on password sharing, you're going to see other streamers do it too. >> reporter: if you want to get ahead of the game and grab the extra member spots, we should mention they're only available if you pay for a more expensive plan. the $15.49 standard tier comes with one spot and the $19.99 premier tier comes with two. back to you. >> scared about that. thank you. that does it for me today, everybody. you can watch "ana cabrera reports" every week day 10:00 a.m. eastern here on msnbc and catch me on weekends at 2:00 p.m. eastern. jose diaz-balart picks up our coverage right now. and good morning. it is 11:00 a.m. eastern and 8:00 a.m. pacific. i'm jose diaz-balart. tonight, florida governor ron desantis is expected to formally announce his run for president during a very unconventional event. in washington, the debt ceiling drama drags on. a democratic official familiar with the talks tells nbc news negotiations

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