successful in cracking down on password sharing, you're going to see other streamers do it too. >> reporter: if you want to get ahead of the game and grab the extra member spots, we should mention they're only available if you pay for a more expensive plan. the $15.49 standard tier comes with one spot and the $19.99 premier tier comes with two. back to you. >> scared about that. thank you. that does it for me today, everybody. you can watch "ana cabrera reports" every week day 10:00 a.m. eastern here on msnbc and catch me on weekends at 2:00 p.m. eastern. jose diaz-balart picks up our coverage right now. and good morning. it is 11:00 a.m. eastern and 8:00 a.m. pacific. i'm jose diaz-balart. tonight, florida governor ron desantis is expected to formally announce his run for president during a very unconventional event. in washington, the debt ceiling drama drags on. a democratic official familiar with the talks tells nbc news negotiations have hit a, quote,

speed bump. on the republican side, new skepticism over next week's default deadline. and a day of raw grief and remembrance in uvalde, texas, where almost one year to the moment a gunman walked into robb elementary school and killed 19 students and two teachers, forever changing the community and the nation. we'll hear from one mother who lost her daughter, lexi, and is now demanding change. >> i'm hoping that seeing her face, hearing her story encourages other moms and dads to join us in this fight. and we begin this hour with florida governor ron desantis set to jump into the presidential race in just about seven hours. nbc news was first to report he plans to launch it on twitter, during a talk with billionaire twitter owner elon musk on the

social media platform. casey desantis, the governor's wife, released this teaser video. >> our best days lay ahead of us. but is it worth the fight? do i have the courage? is it worth the sacrifice? america has been worth it, every single time. >> and joining us now with more is nbc's gabe gutierrez and former republican congressman will hurd of texas. gabe, what is the latest from the desantis team this morning? >> reporter: well, jose, this has been highly anticipated as you know for quite a long time. right now in desantis team the super pac aligned with him hosted another new ad this morning and they are saying that this is the start of something huge, a huge ground game, one of the largest in history. and they say they plan to have 2600 field operatives by labor day, spending an incredible

amount of money, of course, governor desantis raised already a ton of money, super pac has and he's expected to have well over $100 million to start spending on this campaign. still, a lot of questions about how this campaign can move forward, given he's so far behind former president trump in the polls. and we have been speaking with voters here, some of them are skeptical of this run, the governor desantis' run for president. others support president trump, want governor desantis to stay here as governor for a longer time and we spoke with a few of those about what they made of this increasingly crowded republican field. take a listen. >> i think that contentious primary is going to -- is just going to simply motivate and really empower our republican voters to come out in droves. that's what we need. we need these independent voters to turn red. we need florida to stay red. >> i wish it would only be trump and desantis because i honestly think desantis would win. >> reporter: and, of course,

that last potential voter, a college student, he is worried that a crowded republican field would make it more difficult for his chosen candidate, governor ron desantis, splitting the anti-trump vote. now, this morning, former president trump on his social media platform blasting the governor, ron desanctimonious as he calls him and how it was governor desantis who came to him for an endorsement when he ran for governor, he's bringing that up yet again, also stressing in his view that governor desantis is disloyal by launching his campaign, jose. >> gabe, what more do we know about desantis' decision to launch his campaign alongside elon musk? >> reporter: well, as you said in the introduction, jose, it is highly unusual for this to happen. and some critics are wondering what an audio only platform this will deny governor desantis of having video images of his campaign launch. desantis' team, however, says this is unconventional and as

one of my colleagues told -- one source told my colleague dasha burns that the desantis team has been in conversation with elon musk's team for at least several weeks and they do view this as a way to tap into the 140 million followers that elon musk has on twitter. and, of course, twitter increasingly in the last several months has been seen as a platform increasingly friendly to conservatives. so, while this may be audio only, very unconventional, the desantis team does feel this will reach a different audience, this more conservative audience that he is trying to make inroads with and has been for the last several months, has been trying to ahead of this contentious gop primary, of course, going up against former president trump, jose. >> and, i'm wondering, what is your take on this decision by the governor of florida to announce it via twitter with elon musk?

>> well, if you announce on the one-year anniversary of one of the worst school shootings in the country, then i hope you talk about gun violence and talk about what your plan for gun violence is. if not, you probably should have waited a couple of days. my bigger concern is that unfortunately i think ron is acting as if cinderella, his biggest threat to the united states of america, and that's not the case. we have -- we're living in super complicated times and we need common sense solutions. his missteps on other areas of foreign policy especially support the ukraine. we need a future president who is -- who understands our role and the rest of the world and how that impacts our quality of life here in the united states of america. unfortunately it is a position that is growing within the republican party and i think that's bad for everyone. you know, this -- we're at a point in time where the gop is

losing on the national level. and we need to be talking about how do we look forward, not looking backwards, how do we make sure we're talking to more people, not less. and that's the only way we're going to prevent the losses that we have been seeing pile up since president trump was in power. >> the governor has had a very busy legislative session in tallahassee this year, what he calls his florida blueprint for the future. how do you think that blueprint is going to play out going forward? >> here's what we know. since president trump was in office, we lost the -- we lost the house -- >> we just lost our communication with former congressman hurd. i very much appreciate him being with us. gabe, if i could, real quick, back to you to wrap this segment up, the governor of florida does

have a very specific legislative year that he calls the florida blueprint. you've been covering -- you've gone to tallahassee a number of times and you've been covering that blueprint, how is that going to play out going forward? >> certainly, jose. there has been a slew of bills here that governor desantis had been hoping to get notches on his belt so to speak before he announces the run for president. things ranging from immigration to, of course, the highly controversial six-week abortion ban. and a lot of these culture war issues that he was hoping would, you know, attract conservative voters, and be able to get him in a position to be able to win them over for a gop primary, essentially in some cases trying to run to the right of a former president trump, the question will be now, jose, now that this legislative session is over, was that time well spent? or should he have launched this

presidential campaign sooner in order to be able to more directly respond to the relentless attacks that he has been facing from former president trump. so, yes, now that the legislative session is over, and in many ways it is game on. we'll see how the next couple of weeks play out, jose. >> gabe gutierrez in miami and will hurd, thank you very much for being with us this morning. in washington, negotiators are scrambling to reach a deal to reach a debt ceiling and stave off a potential economic catastrophe. later this hour, we expect to hear from speaker kevin mccarthy. we'll bring that to you live as soon as he begins speaking. and this morning, a democratic official familiar with the negotiations tells nbc news talks have hit a speed bump. here's what treasury secretary janet yellen said just in the last hour. >> we no longer see very much likelihood that our resources will enable us to get to the middle or end of june, so

sometime in early june and i'll be updating congress again shortly seems like when we will really run out of resources. >> joining us now with more is nbc news capitol hill correspondent ali vitali and also with us susan page, washington bureau chief at "usa today." where are things this morning and how big of a speed bump is it? >> reporter: speed bump implies there was momentum in the forward direction, jose. as far as i can tell at this point, there is a lot being said, but not a lot has changed behind the scenes. the hang-ups that remain, even from the end of last week, remain today. those are specifically around republican desires to cut spending, to take revenue gains off the table. the white house, of course, trying to push on their side, trying to keep the priorities that their caucus needs in order to be able to vote for this eventual deal. but if you listen to speaker mccarthy this morning, he's reiterating the talking point that we have heard from him time

and again, that for republicans, this is about spending less. watch. >> we have to spend less than we spent last year. that's the starting point. >> how much less? >> well, that's part of the negotiations. democrats don't want to spend less. they want to spend more. that's unreasonable. >> when will there be talks today, mr. speaker? >> reporter: so the we hear the speaker saying, we'll meet today is mccarthy and fellow republican negotiators. as far as we can tell, there is no plan for a meeting between the white house and the hill, especially not at the principle level and not yet, of course. we have seen these things come together on the fly and that could be something that we're watching out for here today. we're likely to hear from mccarthy in just a few minutes as we go -- as we watch him go to the house floor to open things up here today for this legislative tuesday or wednesday, wednesday, rather, where we are right now. but, look, i think what we're seeing from within the republican conference is people on the ultra right, the

conservative end of this spectrum, echoing to their colleagues that they need to hold the line. congressman chip roy is one of those who put out a memo this morning reiterating what he told his colleagues in person yesterday, that he wants this to be a conversation where republicans continue flooding the zone with their messaging about needing to trim spending. democrats at this point, i think getting a little bit nervous about the way the messaging has played out on their side. i'm starting to hear from several of my sources, not just on some of the things that could be given away during the negotiations, but also in terms of the way that republicans have been able to in their eyes control the news cycle here as these negotiations continue in earnest and at whatever pace they're going, speed bumps or not. >> right. and, susan, speaker mccarthy has that narrow majority and some of the members are indicating default on first of june wouldn't be the end of the world. what kind of unprecedented territory would that put us in? >> yeah, the idea that defaulting on the debt wouldn't

be a big problem, maybe not that big a deal, we heard that from former president trump and some republican members of congress, we never defaulted on our obligations before. we have come close. and the fact is where we are now in the negotiations, pretty familiar story. as we did in 2011, for instance, and what made the negotiators in 2011 reach a deal was when the markets reacted with a big crash that cost us jobs and made interest rates go up. you may need that kind of thing to happen to be a motivational tool to get these difficult negotiations over the finish line, jose. >> and, i mean, you have actually expressed optimism, despite the status of negotiations, you see some reason for optimism. what is that reason for optimism? >> history is the reason for my optimism because we just have been here before. that's the thing. and they are at least negotiating, that's a step forward from where we were a

couple of weeks ago. and they're talking about the same things. for instance, cap on spending, the issue is what kind of cap, how long would it last? they're living on the same planet in these negotiations and that has not always been the case sometimes on capitol hill. >> ali vitali and susan page, great to see you both. thank you for being with us this morning. up next, we'll go to uvalde, exactly one year after the school shooting that left 19 students and two teachers dead. we're back in 60 seconds with how the families of the victims are coping today. f the victims are coping today

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school and murdered 19 little children, 19 students and two teachers. in texas, flags are flying at half-staff and there will be a state wide moment of silence to remember the victims and their families. president biden will speak to the nation this afternoon. one year later, people in this community are still searching for answers. they're also searching for accountability for the police response. you'll recall, it took police more than an hour, took them 77 minutes, an hour and 17 minutes, for authorities to take down the gunman inside that school. nbc's guad venegas joins us now from uvalde. what a difficult, difficult day this is for the community. it has been a series of difficult days, one after the other, since this year. but today particularly difficult. >> reporter: jose, days and months and now a year that has

passed, you know, you mentioned the way people are feeling, there is a sense here of frustration, many people saying they want answers that they're not getting. that lack of accountability from law enforcement and that response that you mentioned. earlier this week, even the mayor spoke of how they feel, how city officials feel about the investigation into that law enforcement response that has not concluded. the district attorney says there is no timeline, so people are waiting for some of these answers. and friends and family members of some of the victims have spoken to nbc news and shared these feelings over the last year. many of them asking for these answers and also for change. of course, there has been discussion about possible legislation at a state level. many of these plans with legislation that has been put forward has gotten stuck and the texas state legislature. but going back to the family members, we're going so share part of the conversation that we had with the sister of irma

garcia, one of the teachers that died during that shooting. this is her sister, speaking to nbc news, talking about her frustrations. >> there is no calmness. there is no peace. there's no justice. there's no transparency. it's chaotic. yet you look out and everyone normalizes what's happening around them. and they're -- i see them, they think the way i used to. this will never happen to me. and some day it just might. >> reporter: of course, one of the changes that a lot of the family members and friends of the victims are asking for is gun reform. and, jose, you know, i keep saying this, we spoke a year ago when this happened and now we're speaking again, the conversations we have had with members of the community here,

those that are gun owners, those that do not own guns, those that tell me they're pro reform and even those that don't want so much gun reform, almost everyone tells me what they would like to see is the age limit change from 18 to 21 for individuals to be able to purchase automatic weapons, like the rifle that was used or semi-automatic weapons like the one that was used in the shooting. there was a bill that was put forward in the house. it did not make it through. it has been stuck there. and it is just another one of those attempts. and although there is different bills that have been sent to the texas state legislature, i think that the one thing that, again, everyone agrees on is making that change that has still not happened. and as we sit here today, jose, the one-year anniversary, it is an emotional day, the families have planned a candlelight vigil tonight. they're asking members of the public if they attend to follow the rules. there are some restrictions, they want the media to keep some distance, of course, as they

have this emotional day. schools are not in session. and practically all of uvalde has shut down for this anniversary, jose. >> guad venegas in uvalde, texas, thank you very much. with us now to talk more about this is texas state senator gutierrez who represents the uvalde area. thanks for being with us this morning. how have you been processing what happened a year ago a year later? >> well, thank you, jose. it's been obviously very hard. it is very sad, everything that transpired over this year. since you and i met on the day after the 24th, not a whole lot has changed. there is not a whole lot of answers, very little transparency, very little accountability, no one has been fired, just a recent "washington post" story came out today, and indicating the cop that -- the ranger they said was going to be fired has not been fired.

so we really are very frustrated. we're frustrated that there seems to be no real legislation. the bill that guad mentioned went nowhere. i filed three different amendments on the senate floor. that were shut down by the lieutenant governor for procedural reasons. it is all hard to process. you try to find just the reality and it just -- none of this makes any sense and doesn't make any sense where we are in texas politically on this issue. when most people want change. >> i think a lot about uvalde, i think a lot about that year, i think a lot about on the 25th when we met just outside robb elementary and we were talking about how important it was for there to be support for the families of those 19 children, of those 2 teachers, and the husband of one of the teachers who died as well. has there been support for these

families? does support continue to come in for them? >> jose, there was certainly support from the general public as they established their go fund me accounts. there was a large bit of money that was collected by the city, which we ensured got to the families and that was distributed in november, six months later. we're still struggling with the victims' compensation fund which as you are aware those are federal funds with state matching grants. it turns out in uvalde, only $93,000 was distributed to families over 390 applicants. that's an average of $230. you had families that just had to make decisions that they wouldn't have wanted to make, like going back to work, they needed time to heal, time to cope, time to do the things that needed to be done. we have a system in place in texas that when these tragedies happen, we're supposed to be able to care for people, we're supposed to have some kind of security blanket in place and

that's why victims of compensation is created by the federal government, but unfortunately the attorney general's office did not do a very good job in that capacity. on the spiritual note, we're all there for them. i'm going to be there later on today. they're lovely people. and i love them. >> yeah, and, you know, just later on in this hour, we're going to be speaking to the mother of lexi, lexi rubio, who was one of the 19 children and, you know, one of the things that, senator, is that where -- you talk about accountability not existing. i just keep thinking of 77 minutes, i keep thinking about 376 at one time law enforcement officers were inside robb elementary for 77 minutes. you know, the teacher who called her husband and saying, i'm bleeding to death, little kids that kept calling 911, saying

i'm in 112, come and get us. what does accountability -- i mean, where do we -- when do we start the first step of accountability, senator? >> there hasn't been any, jose. this governor hasn't demanded any. the story last night, this morning, suggested they knew the children were in there, within nine minutes, because some teacher told them. another teacher in another classroom. at minute 35 or 38, the first call came in from children inside the classroom, it is astounding to me this governor doesn't fire the director of public safety who, as you know, sought to point the finger at every other agency rather than to look am himself and look at his own agency, that had the most number of cops who handle all rural situations generally there of this level of violence,

there was extreme failure at every level, but, you know, we are living in a strange place in texas, where accountability really doesn't exist. and as much as i've tried and others have tried, we're living in space where republicans control the house, the senate and every position of power in this state and they don't want to see the truth, they don't want to acknowledge the truth and don't want the public to know the truth. the fact is we're living not in the texas miracle that abbott says, but in the texas nightmare. >> a lot of -- as i think back a lot, the conversations, the private conversations that will always remain private between you and me on the 25th, 26th, but some of the things that, you know, we have yet to hear about was what transpired in those 77 minutes in that -- in those two classrooms and what are some of the things that you, senator,

will always keep etched upon your soul and as a burden on your heart, from what you learned from those parents, from the people who shared stuff with you, what are some of the things that as a father, and as a human being, that remain etched in your soul and still carrying that weight on your heart? >> as you know, jose, i told you something that i was told by law enforcement at the time. it took me 60 days, i sued the government to try to get information and finally signed a nondisclosure agreement and i said this many times, i don't get the thoughts, the images out of my head anymore. i've seen children's faces shot off, i saw one child that was

decapitated. i've seen these children riddled with bullets. what i told you that day, and what i'll tell you now, what i will divulge now is these children were stacked in piles and i thought that that was something that the killer had done, but indeed there was two piles in one room, another pile in another, the teacher shielding their children as best they could, all of them shot dead, few that were alive were in those -- in and around those stacks. and they were piled up because the killer had done this, they were piled together because sadly this is what we train children to do when there is a mass shooting situation, we train them to turn the lights off and lock the doors and close the curtains or the blinds, and to huddle together. and we saw little girl the other day on another documentary, and she showed how that shooter just swept his gun across the stack of children, shooting them all

dead. and the horror that i've seen is worse than any horror movie you could ever imagine. it is worse than any thing that i think that anybody could ever imagine. i don't take -- i go to bed with those images and i wake up to them and they'll probably follow me for the rest of my life. this moment changed my life forever. and i'll be talking about this forever. be advocating as much as i can as long as i can. >> yeah. the things that, you know, just to think about. elementary schoolchildren, just about to wrap up their year, right? and this reality. senator, i thank you. i really appreciate your honesty and, you know, the things we talked about that we can say, and that you're saying, i very much want you to know that it is

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32 past the hour. just in, the last hour, we got breaking news from south

carolina, where a federal grand jury has returned a 22-count indictment against disgraced attorney and convicted murderer alex murdaugh. the indictment is for bank fraud, wire fraud and money laundering, along with other charges. the indictment alleges that over a span of 16 years, murdaugh devised a scheme to redirect climate settlement funds to personally enrich himself. he was sentenced to life in prison for the murder of his wife maggie and his son paul. and turning to south carolina, where a bill banning abortion at six weeks is headed to the governor's desk to be signed into law after passing in the state senate. governor henry mcmaster says he will sign the bill making south carolina the second state to impose a six-week ban, which is often before a woman knows she is pregnant. msnbc anchor yasmi vossoughian joins us. what are the consequences of this bill? >> essentially it is creating a desert for abortion care in the

south and southeast region, only looking at virginia now with still abortion care on the table. if you're looking at the bill, six-week abortion ban, with some exceptions up to 12 weeks for rape and incest, for fetal viability, along with the risk to the life of the mother, that's up until 12 weeks. and there are some stipulations in getting the abortion up until six weeks and that is two ultrasounds along with two doctor visits. if you're looking at the number of clinics in the state of south carolina right now, there are only three with appointments taking weeks to be made as of now. so some people essentially saying this isn't a six-week abortion ban, this is an all-out abortion ban. i want to take a listen if we can to senator sheley of south carolina who talks more about what just happened. >> we are not the morality police. and you cannot be someone else's

conscience. we must let people make these decisions for themselves. >> the child support from conception on, it is cuckoo. that cannot be enforced. it cannot be implemented. >> five female state senators able to filibuster up until now. but now essentially the six week abortion ban going to the governor's desk and likely to be passed into law. planned parenthood of south carolina speaking out saying south carolina lawmakers are playing politics with people's lives, blocking access to essential healthcare, while ignoring soaring rates of maternal and infant mortality in our state. we will not stand by while politicians put people's lives in danger and take away fundamental human rights. so we say to the state of south carolina, we'll see you in court and when you look at access to abortion care overall, jose, right now, maternal mortality of black women is four times that

of their white counterparts, disenfranchised black and brown women of south carolina being most affected by a law like this. >> thank you so much. up next, our conversation with the mother of lexi rubio, one of the children killed one year ago today at robb elementary school in uvalde. she says her daughter is already making a difference around the world. you're watching "jose diaz-balart reports" on msnbc. i diaz-balart reports" on msnbc. c. nucala is a once-monthly add-on injection for severe eosinophilic asthma. nucala is not for sudden breathing problems. allergic reactions can occur. get help right away for swelling of face, mouth, tongue, or trouble breathing. infections that can cause shingles have occurred. don't stop steroids unless told by your doctor. tell your doctor if you have a parasitic infection. may cause headache, injection site reactions, back pain, and fatigue. ask your asthma specialist about a nunormal with nucala.

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37 past the hour. one year ago today, the lives of 21 families in uvalde, texas, were changed forever when a gunman opened fire at robb elementary school. those families spent the last year trying to get through their pain, their grief, one step after the other and also push for change to make sure it doesn't happen again. on monday, i spoke with kimberly rubio who lost her 10-year-old

daughter lexi. i first met her last september. i've got to tell you, folks, these conversations to me personally are so difficult because i don't even know what to ask, how to ask things, because it is just so, you know, what do you say, what do you ask? well, i started by asking her how she was doing today. >> i think it really started to sink in last night. we had trouble sleeping, we are really tired today. it is just overwhelming. >> i don't know how even, you know, we were talking, you know, last september, when you were kind enough to have me in your home. it was just the daily hour, minute, second by second, step

after step, how do you -- how have you been able to cope? >> i think i haven't really processed even almost a year later. i throw myself into activism and staying busy. it is a distraction. it is probably not the healthiest of grieving processes, but it is what works for me. >> tell me about her siblings. how are they doing? i know when we spoke it was just before school was starting, how has this school year been for them? >> it has been very difficult. children in the classrooms, they talk. it is hard for her siblings to hear those things because they lost a sibling, they lost lexi. my oldest, she graduated last year and she had plans for

college here at the junior college and she just isn't ready yet. it's -- it's hard, my little one, he's 9, says, mom, there is nobody to play with me anymore. my older siblings don't want to play with me and lexi's not here. >> you and your husband spent so much of the last year going to austin, going to washington, d.c., calling for an assault weapons ban. have you seen anything that has given you any optimism on that? >> yes, i mean, recently we had house vote 2744, which would have raised the age to purchase assault weapons from 18 to 21 in the state of texas. and that didn't pass. but we talked to republicans vote in favor of the bill and that was encouraging. that means we're making a difference. change is slow. but it is happening. >> do you think there has been accountability for what happened a year ago? >> no. almost a year, we still don't have answers.

we're still waiting for the final report, still waiting to see if the district attorney pursues charges against some of the individuals involved. waiting game. much like may 24th. >> she has filled your home via photographs and memories and even some of the things that she was given after that horrible day. the plaques and the photos. what do you hope we, all of us, will most remember about lexi? >> i want lexi to be remembered for more than just this tragedy. i want her name associated with change. so, i'm hoping that seeing her face, hearing her story encourages other moms and dads to join us in this fight and one day, when we accomplish our goal, it will be because of lexi. it will be because of the 21.

>> thank you so much for being with us. i want you to know that our prayers, my family's prayers and so many other prayers are you, your husband, your children, and all of the people that lost so much a year ago. just not so much, lost everything, in so many ways. kimberly, thank you. >> thank you. and if you get a chance, just take a look at these beautiful faces. we're now going to go to washington, d.c., kevin mccarthy is speaking, let's listen in. >> -- about ways we can work together on the debt ceiling. he told me he was going to follow the president's lead. i went down to meet with the president right after becoming speaker as you all know on february 1st. i said, let's sit down, let's

work together, the democrats, they could have lifted the debt ceiling, prior to me becoming speaker. they knew the outcome of the election already. they knew we were taking power. they passed an omnibus bill, but they decided not to do the rising of the debt ceiling. even though they thought people should just raise it cleanly. speaking with the president, i told him two things, we'll not raise taxes. why? because we have more revenue coming in to our coffers at any time in american history. the problem is the democrats had been in power and they increased the amount of spending to the highest level we have ever had at any time in american history. especially the gdp. and now we have the highest debt at any time to american history. so i just think it is common sense, it is reasonable and it is rational, that we spend less next year than we spend this year. every household will do this. we have money that sits out there, covid, that has been

appropriated, that hasn't been used. we now the damage that the democrats are done in the majority when they spent that extra $6 trillion, it brought us inflation, harming every single family. made us more dependent upon china, created three of the largest bank failures in american history in the last couple of months. we cannot continue down this path. but the president waited 97 days, not even talk to me, he could have spoken to me and said we're wrong on that other angles, but he didn't. and now we're eight days away. from biden having to default. i don't want that to happen. that's why republicans in the house in april lifted the debt ceiling with common sense, sensible things, that pulling the covid money back, work requirements, they let people go back to work, help our supply chain, make us less dependent on china and more importantly, people working and paying into social security and medicare making those two entities stronger. and then making us stronger in

our energy field where we're cutting the red tape, where we can build things in america again, putting people back to work, that's reasonable, that's rational. it sits in the senate. but if the president waits too long, you can always take that up. >> -- negotiations, has there been appreciable progress over the last -- >> there is differences, we know where it is at. you have to spend less than you spent last year. that's not that difficult to do. but in washington, somehow, that is a problem. they have increased spending with the democrats and the majority on discretionary spending by more than 33%. no household has been able to afford to do that. we can find ways, we can eliminate that. the president eliminated a lot of places that we can't talk about, so i got a short area to do it, but we found a reasonable way to do it. so it is not that -- look, i think we can make progress today. i'm hoping we can make progress. >> what do you say to those who believe you can't get to yes because so many members of your conference won't accept anything

less than the bill you already passed? >> they're wrong. you know, you underestimate me the whole time. the one thing you should learn from me, i'll never give up in american people. those are the people we're looking after. can we get to bill? yes. we passed a bill. >> you need a bipartisan bill now. >> so you just -- thank you, you just identified the problem. no democrats. so, every democrat voted against raising the debt ceiling. nothing has happened in the senate. i'm not a senator. i don't control the senate. why didn't they pass something? the president, he didn't talk to us for 97 days. so, don't blame me for reaching out to the democrats for begging the president to meet with me, or trying to find it. and don't blame us, republicans, when we put a reasonable bill together that we actually took democrats ideas. when we put spending for government and increase it 1% each year to cap it so the slow growth of government, so the economy can catch up, that was a

democrat idea. when we put work requirements in to help people get a job, that's something senator biden voted for and president clinton signed into law. that was a democrat supported idea too. so it is not my fault that the democrats today have become so extreme, so far to the socialist wing, that they are now opposed to work requirements that they're now opposed to saving $1 less than you spent the year before. that, to me, really seemed the problem are the democrats. >> the white house says they're trying to meet you halfway. so, i mean, at this stage of the game, since you at loggerheads what is the off ramp here in. >> look, the off ramp is to solve the problem, to spend less than we spent last year. that's not that difficult. they still want to spend more. you cannot do that. no household will do that. i explained this before. they don't have a plan. they didn't pass anything. so you can't spend more money

than next year than you spent this year. look, i've explained this before. a debt ceiling so the american people understand is having a credit card. you raise and you hit the limit, so year after year, you kept raising the limit, so you're paying more interest. so now in america, 17 cents out of every dollar comes in, just goes to interest. now you owe so much on your credit card, you have to pay it, but you owe more than you make in an entire year. so, now, for america, we owe more on our debt than our whole economy is worth. 20% more. so should you just raise the debt limit? or should you think let's eliminate some waste? if we had spent money, billions of dollars for a pandemic, that money has sat there for two years, pull it back. if we can have a provision to help people find jobs, let's do that. if we can find a way to cut red tape, let people go back and

build things in america and make us energy independent and not beholden to china, let's do that. that's all we're asking. we're being reasonable. >> you're going to need democratic vote, probably in the house, definitely in the senate, democrat in the white house, why not offer a single concession beyond saying we're not going to default? >> we offered a lot of concessions. the cap on the spending is a democrat idea. the work -- the work requirement was a democrat idea. the -- i can't help it if the democrats have become so extreme and now it is a party of bernie sanders than the party where joe biden was elected. joe biden is the president of the united states. he is the head democrat. but if aoc and bernie sanders i going to run their party, that's not my fault. i'm not sure bernie sanders is a registered democrat. >> if the president does not agree to exactly what you want, are you willing to blow past -- >> first of all, your premise is

all wrong. when have i ever said you have to agree to 100% of what i want? all i have ever said to the president, from february 1st, let's talk. there's only a couple things i will not do, mr. president. i will not raise taxes. why? because we are bringing more revenue in, even to the gdp, not just in the 50-year average, but the history of america. only two other times have we do that. i will not put a clean debt ceiling on the floor. why? because we have spent more than we ever spent before. we have the highest debt than before. i don't think that's right. let me finish the question. then i said to the president, everything else is on the table. for 97 days he wouldn't talk to me. we passed a bill. we're not getting everything in our bill. i'm negotiating with the president. we passed a bill that raised the

debt ceiling. if i did what you are seeing, we wouldn't be talking. but i sit and i am sitting and sending our negotiation team down with theirs -- their team is highly respected on both sides of the aisle. they know this house and senate well. i know together -- maybe you discounted me, too. i didn't win speaker on the first vote. it took 15 rounds. you know what? i think we're stronger for it. probably we didn't solve this problem on the first negotiation, but it took us 97. i believe we will get there. >> negotiators yesterday says a concession was to raise the debt ceiling. within the room there, what concession are you willing to give in order to save the economy? >> i'm willing to make america stronger, to curb inflation, less dependency on china and spend less than the year before. when we are elected, the power is loaned to us from the

american public. who is representing them? it's not my responsibility to represent the socialist wing of the democratic party. if the democrat socialist wing and bernie sanders cared so much, they would have passed a bill. they would have done something on the border. it's not my fault they won't take action. it's not my fault that the president would not meet with me for 97 days. i'm sorry. the moment he was willing to meet with me, i have been there each and every day. i firmly believe we will get and solve this problem. >> mr. speaker, how much time will you give your conference to read the debt ceiling bill once an agreement is reached? >> 72 hours. [ inaudible ] >> ask your question. >> are you afraid voters will blame republicans for --

[ inaudible ] >> first of all, i don't think there will be a default. i don't see how you blame republicans. if there's any blame republicans have, we're the only ones who acted. if the american public didn't want -- if they get rewarded for not taking an action, ignoring a problem, the democrats are going to win that award. they did that with title 42 on the border. they have done that with inflation. they told us it was transitory. they did that with the debt ceiling. they told us we shouldn't talk. if you want to blame republicans for solving problems, we will take that. [ inaudible ] >> the only thing i look at, if the democrats control the senate and they control the white house and they wouldn't do a bill and they wouldn't communicate, i don't think i have to say who is to blame. if the republicans have passed a bill that raised the debt ceiling, did it in a responsible, sensible way, i think the american public understands that.

first of all, let moe me tell t american public. we're not going to default. we're going to solve this problem. i will stay with it until we can get it done. let's be honest about this. we have to spend less than we spent last year. it's not my fault that the democrats cannot give up on their spending. you would think -- you have the most revenue in the history of coming in. when the democrats were in power, they spent the most money. we have the most expenses going out. it's not a revenue problem. it's a spending problem. you have the highest amount of debt. don't you think that would finally wake them up to be sensible? i don't want to point things out, but i heard on cnn that 60% of americans believe the debt ceiling should only be raised after you found savings. to your question and your question, i think we are representing the american public. that's what we will continue to do.

i apologize. i have to open up the house. i appreciate spending time with you. we will continue to keep you updated as we go. i look forward to the days ahead. thank you all very much. >> there you heard it, right on capitol hill, speaker mccarthy saying he still is going to stay on this, that he feels optimistic that an agreement can be reached. the limit is, according to the secretary of treasury, the 1st of june. in the big picture of things, there are folks all over the place with all kinds of concerns about what a debt default could mean for key benefits. for example, i'm talking about veterans, key benefits like pensions, disability compensation and so much more. joining us now with more is shaquille brewster. good morning. how are veterans telling you about what they fear and feel during this political battle?

>> reporter: jose, what we just heard from speaker mccarthy, not a deal yet or no clear path to a deal at this point, is not of much reassurance for veterans here. folks have been telling me they feel fearful, they are angry about what they are hearing, they feel like political pawns. we don't know what would happen if the u.s. defaults. we have never reached that point before. what we do know is that janet yellen, the treasury secretary set june 1st as the possible window in which a default could happen. on that same day, the u.s. government is set to pay out about $12 billion toward veteran assistance, things like pensions, disability assistance, food and tuition assistance for folks who have fought for our country, who are relying on that government support. they are not too happy about what they are seeing out of washington, d.c. listen to one of the conversations i had just yesterday.

>> i do get a retirement check. i do get v.a. disability. when you hear there's the possibility it could go away, it makes you wonder. >> reporter: what would be the impact on some people losing that check or having that check be delayed? >> it's things like, do you put food on the table next week? do you pay your rent on time? once you get behind in things like that, it can snowball. >> reporter: jose, this is a veterans outreach center that provides a lot of support to veterans. things like food drop-offs. you see people picking up their monthly food basket today. they provide haircuts, computer

training. the owner said it's a concern she's hearing every day as we get closer to that deadline. she said folks have had to deal with covid. they had to deal with inflation. this would be another blow if there's a delay in that payment. we don't know if that is the case. but the fact that we don't know is not of much reassurance to people who are relying on those payments. >> an important point. shaq brewster, thank you very much. that deadline, according to secretary yellen, is the 1st of june. that's coming up right next week. i want to show you the stock market and the reaction as of this hour. you can see the dow is down 265 points. that, of course, is what a lot of people are keeping a close watch on. the reaction of wall street to the lack of agreement so far. the speaker says he is optimistic. let's see what happens. june 1st is right around the corner. that wraps up the hour for me.

i'm jose diaz-bdiaz-balart. you can watch highlights from today's show online. i can't thank you enough for the privilege of your time. andrea mitchell picks up with more news right now. right now on "andrea mitchell reports," debt ceiling talks shifting to the white house this hour. still no signs of a breakthrough with the deadline to default a week away. >> there's a number of places that we are still far apart. it didn't seem like it do be this hard. i think it's common sense, it's reasonable and rational that we spend less. i think we can make progress today. i'm hoping we can make progress. florida governor ron desantis is making it official. announcing his 2024 candidacy tonight on twitter during a discussion with elon musk as his future republican primary rivals blanket iowa and new hampshire to try and pull support from former president trump.