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you. thank you. >> thank you, andrea. >> and thank you very much. that's it for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports." chris jansing starts right now. good day, i'm chris jansing live at msnbc headquarters in new york city. ron desantis and his decidedly unconventional campaign launch trying to income off the most unconventional presidential candidate in modern history, donald trump. we'll have the latest on the florida governor as he heads to the twitter verse with the world's second richest man for the big announcement now just hours away. how do you solve an impending economic crisis if some people don't believe a crisis exists. a war of words between treasury secretary janet yellen and conservatives questioning whether the u.s. is really on the verge of default. breaking this morning, nearly two dozen new charges

filed against convicted double murderer alex murdaugh, carrying penalties of nearly 500 years in jail. details on the multimillion dollar fraud scheme he's accused of and the long-time friend who prosecutors say he conspired with to make it happen. but we begin with the political landscape that increasingly looks unlike anything we've ever seen before. ron desantis, the florida governor breaking long-standing political norms as he tries to break away from the ever growing pack of republican candidates. his decision to announce his presidential campaign on twitter tonight marks a sharp departure from the traditional tightly scripted, highly visual and supporter pack campaign announcements. not only will it be audio only, but desantis will be sharing the spotlight with eccentric billionaire turned conservative hero, elon musk. if it works, the move could help the governor put some real distance between himself and a republican field that's become more crowded by the day. if it doesn't, it could

undermine his attempts to convince voters that he is the most viable alternative to donald trump. and trump not wasting any time going on the attack today, insisting desantis can't win the general election. he also argues that desantis needs, in trump's words a personality transplant. i want to bring in nbc's dasha burns who broke the news about desantis's announcement, robert gibbs served as white house press secretary under president obama. he's an msnbc political analyst. and host of the big technology podcast. good to have all of you here. what more can you tell us about what we should expect from this announcement tonight? >> reporter: well, chris, look, i think we should probably expect the unexpected. elon musk is a man that is fairly unpredictable. and this is, like you said a departure from a traditional type announcement. that is sort of the point. this is a soon to be candidate who has looked for ways to

bypass traditional media and go directly to the voters. this is one way to do it, using elon musk's 140 million twitter followers. it is unconventional and it is high risk and high reward for this emerging campaign, and there are two things that according to the sources i've been talking to they are trying to get out of this here. number one is what i just talked about with that massive reach, and number two is the message that they are hoping to send with this sort of alliance with this launch alongside this billionaire, this man who they see as very much a futurist. the contrast that they are trying to set up that we will be seeing on the campaign trail as he hits the ground in early states next week is past versus future. not invoking the name of former president trump, they are looking to paint him as the past and desantis has the future of the republican party, and elon musk to them helps to represent that and will help to sort of send that message, especially

doing so on a social media platform, not something that is common or has really of been done before, and by the way, on a platform that was once former president trump's domain. remember, he's the one that made twitter his super power. that's how he used to reach voters, and now it is going to be a launching pad for florida governor ron desantis, chris. >> interesting. let's just remind people, maybe take a step back and remind folks what traditional campaign announcement looks like. i want to play a sample from three recent successful launches, including your old boss barack obama. >> i'm running for president of the united states. there's no turning back, and i intend to be the next president of the united states. >> i stand before you today to announce my candidacy for president of the united states of america. >> i am officially running for

president of the united states, and we are going to make our country great again. >> so you know, friendly faces, cheering crowds, none of that's going to happen tonight, robert. the implication from that campaign seems to be there's more upside, more benefit to doing it this way than the old way. do you agree? >> well, i would give them points for being unconventional, and i think when you're a challenger and you're trying to beat somebody who's a front runner in the sense of desantis versus trump here, you've got to do some things that are unconventional and you've got to shake things up. i think there's a tremendous risk in this. when dasha says to expect the unexpected, you don't go into the planning of a presidential announcement assuming there's going to be a lot of unexpected, and you saw in those three

videos, you know, they're highly scripted. they're, quite frankly, quotes and things that are said that you're going to continue to put in videos and continue to merchandise throughout the campaign, and you know, desantis is going to walk into this presumably not knowing everything that's going to happen. not knowing what elon musk is going to say, what his reaction is going to be. and so you know, while it's unconventional and there's some points to that, it has to be nerve racking, everybody that runs a campaign or is involved in a campaign at a senior level is by definition a control freak. and you are taking an enormously important moment and basically putting a lot of faith in the fact that it will all work out, and that's really the opposite of what i think a lot of people go into these announcements as control freaks thinking about. >> yeah, i think probably alex, you know this much better than i do, but i'll ask you to expound on it. if you're looking to have some

control over how you present your candidate for the very first time saying i am running for president of the united states, control and elon musk are not usually in the same sentence, fair? >> absolutely fair. i mean, when people interview elon, they're always surprised by things that he's going to say. he's just a fountain of unpredictability. so yeah, if you go into a campaign announcement speaking with him, you're going to get some stuff you don't expect. that being said, i think desantis does need to take some risks here. he is going against trump. you don't want to look like jeb bush next to trump. you want to look like something less predictable. i think that what he's going for. they're going to speak is about how the left is totalitarian and trying to roll back speech and both he and elon, those are typical talk tracks for them. i think that, yes, risks and so much ideological alignment, less than you might imagine with the typical elon musk conversation. >> does he tell us something bigger about how maybe campaigns are moving more away from the

traditional media that the way to reach people is so much vaster, so many different opportunities for candidates out there, it's really a question of strategically what's going to work for you, your voters, and how do you grab them? >> absolutely. that's been the case since roberts won his case with barack obama. we're seen this shift, the different social media platforms are defining different elections. as we go, trump obviously showed that in 2016 he used twitter very effectively and now what's happening is elon let trump back on. he hasn't tweeted. he's been silent there, and there's an opening, and ron desantis is seizing that opening. his tweets are very conventional. his announcement might not be. i think there's an opportunity for him to seize this moment and say, i can communicate to the american people -- by the way, all the media is going to pick him up. it's not without the media. in a much broader, a much more interesting way, and i think that's what we're going to see

today. >> robert, conventional wisdom in politics is you cannot win if you can't get out there, shake hands, be among the people, talk to folks one on one. have we moved into a world where those skills matter less than social media skills, than tech skills? >> i don't think those skills matter less. i think what you're talking about of those tech skills have been added on as a must have. look, people are in many different spaces. you're going to reach voters and want to reach voters at the iowa state fair as you're walking around and you want to shake hands and be able to have a conversation. you've got to show up and appear where people are, right? and a lot of us are on the other end of our phones, right? we're doing something. we may be relaxing, you're sitting somewhere. you're catching up on the news or events on your phone, and you're not doing it, you know, person to person. so i think the idea of expanding

that reach and reaching voters where they are is tremendously important, i don't know. mccain did this in the 2000 election at the very beginning of kind of the dawn of the internet age of politics. we did this in 2008 in a big way. it's really gotten bigger and bigger in each successive election. it's all about going where people really are. >> it's going to be interesting to see how many people tune in or frankly among older voters who are among the most predictable primary voters if they know where to find it. having said that, dasha, i want to play a little bit of what elon musk said yesterday about tonight's event. >> yes, i will be interviewing ron desantis, and he has quite an announcement to make, and we'll be -- it's the first time something like this is happening on social media and with realtime questions and answers, not scripted. so it's going to be live and

let's see what happens. >> let's let her rip, so we've got that, but then what? what's the plan? because the rollout is never just that day, right? the rollout is then how do we take what we assume will be a boost and move that forward? >> well, i think what we've been hearing from this great panel hear is that it is going to have to be a combination of the online and the person on the ground look you in the eye and shake your hand. that from the reporting i've done and the sources i've spoken to is the plan here. we're going to see a more traditional rollout after this announcement. there will be a campaign video. next week we will see him take to the early swing states and start shaking hands and start doing some of that retail politics that is so critical, especially in states like iowa, new hampshire, and south carolina. but it really is the combination of those two things, and look, when it comes to twitter, this is a space that the campaign has watched as it's become an

increasingly friendly space for conservatives under elon musk's leadership. you know, you saw tucker carlson after he left fox now moving to this platform. so this is a moment where candidates are trying to figure out how to blend and how to reach in different ways, and how to stand out. that's especially critical for ron desantis as he needs to really get away from the rest of the field if he wants to have any chance of really taking on the former president, chris. >> you don't want to overstate it, but there is a lot riding on what we see tonight, dasha burns, robert gibbs, alex can tree wits, thank you you all so much. what speaker mccarthy said moments ago about the status of talks with the white house. we've got that in 60 seconds. the we've got that in 60 seconds

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try to strike a deal, just eight short days away from when treasury officials say the u.s. is highly likely to run out of cash. part of the challenge ahead may well be the warning from treasury secretary janet yellen about the disastrous consequences of not making a deal isn't getting a lot of buy-in from conservative republicans. listen. >> we no longer see very much likelihood that our resources will enable us to get to the middle or end of june. >> absolutely not. there's not some trigger that all of a sudden happens at one moment in time. >> everybody's relying on janet yellen to tell us this magical day, show us. show us the math. >> i no longer trust what the obi wan kenobi of wrong answers on the economy to tell me when the default occurs. >> i want to bring in mike memoli, anna palmer, and

"politico" white house reporter and playbook co-author eugene daniels. good to see you all. in spite of the casual attitude of some members of his caucus. speaker mccarthy sounded optimistic. >> i think we can make progress today. i'm hoping we can make progress today. i am not going to give up. we're not going to default. we're going to solve this problem. i will stay with it until we can get it done. >> mike, what's the white house stand, not just on where things are right now, but also on the seriousness of the republicans? >> well, what a democratic official is telling us and pointing to what they're calling a speed bump in these talks is what we just heard from speaker mccarthy that we will not default is the sum total of what republicans have shown they're willing to quote, unquote compromise on. nothing more than simply a statement as they put it of his constitutional obligation to increase the nation's debt limit. so what are the compromises the white house is putting on the

table? here's how they lay this out. the president is supporting the idea of freezing the federal spending level at what they spent in 2023, and he's willing to do that for a two-year period of time. that's in line with how these agreements typically run in the past. the other area that they're pointing to is one that, frankly, there has been some agreement on both sides about, this idea of reclaiming unspent covid funding that could be about $30 billion depending on how you're listening to. so why does that represent an area of compromise? well, what house republicans have already passed in late april would be to reverse the spending to what 2022 levels, so a full year earlier than what the white house is saying they'll support and to increase that spending level 1% each year. the biggest question is how much speaker mccarthy is willing to move from what republicans passed in the direction of the white house. white house officials are saying they haven't heard any of this publicly. and chris, it's frankly an indication of just the state of

these talks that the white house has refused to negotiate in public, at least that's been their claim. in their view, the pressure needs to be growing on speaker mccarthy. they think he's been unreasonable. that he's listening to the demands of that same group of republicans that held him in suspense for 15 ballots to become elected speaker: speaker mccarthy saying president biden is capitalist to the socialists in the party. they're saying the extreme are calling the shots and while the moderates in the middle are being more vocal leading to a compromise. >> strategically that differentiation is important. you have joe biden who says i'm not going to negotiate in public. mccarthy is out there in the halls of congress. he's talking to reporters all day yesterday, earlier today. his team is accessible. who has the upper hand in controlling the narrative right now? >> it's a really good question and we wrote about that this morning, i mean, in the sense of just how the amount of times that the speaker is going out

and speaking to the press, i think really trying to win the messaging where there has been a vacuum when it comes to democrats, certainly the white house, we haven't been getting statements or comments from the president, and really, the only democrat who's been out there pretty forcefully has been the minority leader in the house, hakeem jeffries. he's not a part of those kinds of talks. i think the real question is, though, and i think mike kind of puts a fine point on it, where do they come together, right? because they've been using the words they've been productive talks, but there hasn't been a lot of progress when it comes to the outstanding parts of this negotiation and the contours we all knowtake here. we all know what is in play in terms of the spending levels, in terms of maybe worker requirements. those two things outstanding. but they don't seem to be getting any closer, you know, to the fact that they're continuing to talk, we should feel good about. they aren't -- it's not as if we're at deal point where is they're ready to bring things back to the conference at this

point. we can't underestimate how much that matters, whether or not you have some republicans saying they don't believe janet yellen. >> well, you also, anna, in punch bowl mentioned jeffries and saying he's warning you shouldn't just assume all the democrats are going to fall into line if they don't get what they want, right? >> yeah, i mean, listen, i think that is what he needs to say because he needs to keep his caucus together. it's hard to see the president come together on a deal with mccarthy. they aren't going to have to have the majority of democrats in support of it. they are going to need them in strong numbers. you're certainly going to have to see the white house officials and others start to message to democrats they are going to have to have some compromises, clearly the progressives are already agitating, are very frustrated with the fact there's a negotiation going on at all. that is not the end point of where these talks are going to go. it's not going to be the 14th amendment, it's not going to be something else. and so i think hakeem jeffries is putting forward the concerns

of the more progressive part of the caucus, hard though for me to see democrats stay in the way -- stand in the way of a deal if the president gets to one. >> let me play a little bit of exactly what the house minority leader hakeem jeffries had to say. >> as the american people tune in to this unnecessary drama being visited upon the country by extreme maga republicans in the house, i'm confident that public sentiment will be on the side of president biden. >> well, let's see where the sentiment is, right, eugene? i mean, on one hand you hear hakeem jeffrey. on the other hand we heard all the republicans saying june 1st sometime in june, i don't know what she's talking about. i mean, it seems to me there's a pretty high risk factor here for both sides if they don't get a deal. >> no, that's absolutely right. it kind of reminds me when i was a kid and i got a's my dad

didn't say anything, i had b's and c's they'd get upset. >> do we have the same dad? >> they're not going to get anything on either side if you do the job. they're not going to see this boost in polling. if they don't, it's dangerous for both sides. we don't know if they would blame republicans because president biden has been asking -- asked for a budget for a long time and didn't get one until later or that republicans who have done -- have both laid out a good job of staying in front of the cameras and talking about these things and attacking the white house. like we don't know how those messaging wars are going to work. i think both hakeem jeffries and the white house should be careful there thinking that all of a sudden the american people, if they do -- if there is a default, are going to blame republicans and say, well, president biden tried to get that. he is still the president and most of the blame is always going to lay at his feet. i think there's a lot of frustration in the white house right now with mccarthy because

of the fact he is kind of negotiating, the most extreme folks in his party are happy when they're unlikely to vote for a bipartisan deal like this anyway. so white house aides have told us that they're already thinking about having to deliver maybe even 100 democratic house vote so that they can get this across the finish line when ever that ends up happening. so as people still feel like it's going to happen, but i think that's because it's never happened before that we have defaulted. it's still very possible. there's a lot of posturing as it always is. we talked to folks who went through this in 2011, they say they're even more scared because this is a republican party that seems more okay with defaulting than others in the past. >> we will continue to watch it, eugene daniels, anna palmer, mike memoli, thank you very much. appreciate it. he's already serving time for a double murder, but now there's a new twist in the case of disgraced former attorney

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breaking news out of south carolina today, convicted murderer alex murdaugh is now facing 22 more criminal charges. a federal grand jury hitting the former attorney with charges of bank fraud, money laundering. he has been in a state maximum security prison since early april, serving two life sentences for the 2021 murders of his wife and son. with me paul butler, former federal prosecutor and georgetown school of law professor. what are we looking at here, lay

out the typical time line for prosecution of federal charges like this. >> so chris, these charges are all about money, murdaugh allegedly stole from clients and prosecutors like cases like this because they're largely proven on paper with evidence like emails, bank statements. they carry up to 30 years, and of course murdaugh's already been convicted of two counts of murder. he's been disbarred, just on those counts he's likely to spend the rest of his life in prison. so i think this case is mainly symbolic. the justice department says if people don't trust attorneys, then they don't trust the legal system, so prosecutors want to send a message that shady lawyers will be held accountable, especially when they have victimized vulnerable people like those who murdaugh is accused of stealing from. >> and yet, i think with him racking up not just the murder charges, he has 102 other counts in south carolina state court,

some would argue is it really worth spending the time and money on a prosecution to make an example of somebody? >> great question, and there may not in the end be a whole lot of time or money spent on this case. murdaugh's attorneys say that their client has been cooperating with federal investigators, and prosecutors expect that these charges will be resolved quickly, so that sounds like murdaugh might be looking at some kind of plea deal where he admits guilt to the federal charges. maybe there's a possibility he could serve the time in federal prison, which most inmates prefer to state prison. >> paul butler, always good to see you. we're going to see you a little later on in this hour. thank you. right now, senator kyrsten sinema is leading her third bipartisan trip to the u.s. mexico border this year, touring a port of entry with oklahoma republican senator james lankford. the democrat turned independent says immigration is her number one concern right now even as

migrant crossings plummet, sinema says communities along the border are still managing a crisis. nbc's julie tsirkin is at the border and just spoke with senator sinema in an nbc news exclusive. so we know, julie, that there hasn't been real congressional action on immigration in decades. does sinema think what's happened over the last couple of months is going to change anything? >> she certainly is hoping it will. in fact, she told me she hopes she can get meaningful comprehensive immigration reform done. this congress that is a large task for a divided congress, you barely have enough support for republicans to pass that bill they did a couple of weeks ago. just to set the scene, i'm in arizona, and this is one of the ports of entry here that sees the largest influx of migrants. behind me you actually see mexicans crossing over the border, just to do some shopping, getting day-to-day

activities done. farther behind me is actually where sinema and langford are touring the border. they are at a port of entry talking to cbp officers. yesterday they were there in tucson, which is actually cinema's hometown where she sat at a round table hearing from local officials who did say despite border crossings being low now, they need federal assistance to ensure they're able to meet the demands of the crisis if and when that happens, and they surely expected to. take a listen to what sinema told me and interestingly what she hinted about her future political plans. >> rather than spend time talking about politics or elections, folks in arizona know that i always stay focused on the work. that's why i'm here in tucson, my hometown working with senator langford and why keep bringing colleagues after colleague down to the border to see this crisis firsthand. >> would ever consider taking it a step further, maybe pursuing action on this issue outside of congress as homeland security secretary? >> oh, gosh, no. i don't want that job. >> why not? >> well, serving in the united states senate you have the

ability to actually change the laws. we need members of congress who are willing to change these laws. the administration can't do that. >> chris, so interesting. i asked that question a little bit out of left field, you heard her response there, though, and she said that legislating is where she feels happiest at. she feels like she can make more of a difference in the senate. she said there's a lot left on the table, even after her term is done. if you're reading the tea leaves there, it certainly sounds like sinema is comfortable where she's at. >> julie tsirkin, thank you for that. today marks one year since we as a nation faced one of the darkest days we've ever had, 19 fourth grade children, two teachers all murdered by an 18-year-old shooter at robb elementary school in uvalde, texas. and for the families, friends, and the community in uvalde, this day brings back all that indescribable heartbreak and pain. take a listen to the parents of three of the kids killed on this day last year. lexi rubio, jackie cazares.

>> to not be able to hold your daughter, it feels like an eternity. i don't understand why. like i don't understand why. our children were innocent. our children were innocent, and it's not fair. >> it's not fair. it's not fair that she only got ten years. it's not fair that i only got ten years with her, none of it's fair. >> today flags across the state of texas are lowered to half-staff, and just a few moments ago there was a statewide moment of silence. next hour we'll go live to uvalde for more on the tributes and how families of the victims are coming together in their grief to push for change. also ahead, how trump's campaign schedule could collide with his courtroom schedule around those key early

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we now know that donald trump's new york criminal trial in the hush money case is scheduled to begin on march 25th, which happens to be about halfway through next year's presidential primaries. at that point, 27 states will have held primaries with 23 still to come. so how will his legal case or

cases impact trump's political schedule and messaging and what his rivals have to say about all of it, and on the flip side, could politics impact the legal proceedings. back with me, paul butler and robert gibbs. so robert, trump's legal troubles are almost certain to spill into campaign season, i mean the primary season. the last competitive republican primary was 2016. i think trump didn't actually secure the nomination until july, mitt romney in 2012, the end of may. you know how grueling it is to run in a competitive primary. how does trump execute a campaign while also potentially defending himself in one or more high profile cases. >> well, we've seen what trump has tended to use these events for is to strengthen his grip on the base, to raise more money. so i think, you know, he'll continue to presumably play those plays out and see how that

strengthens him. i'm interested in a couple of things and that is how first and primarily how do the other indictments or potential indictments impact the political schedule on this because we're talking about something that's happening in march, but presumably before then the special counsel will come to a decision on whether to charge trump and so too could the legal system in georgia, and secondly and you mentioned this, how do his rivals respond, thus far they responded by defending donald trump. and i've been very mystified as to how they think they're going to beat donald trump by defending donald trump, so i'll be interested to see, does somebody like a chris christie get into this race or do some of these candidates begin to question whether or not trump can be the standard bearer based on all of these legal predicaments. thus far they've just helped him through this. >> yeah, to your point, i was

remained this morning when i was thinking about this of -- i think it was right before the actual indictment came down in new york. ron desantis made a little comment on it. here's what he said. >> i don't know what goes into paying hush money to a porn star to secure silence over some type of alleged affair. i can't speak to that. >> so a little bit of humor, but what is the most effective way for a rival candidate to respond? i mean, what desantis did, is it to ignore it? is it to say forcefully that in a general election, a man potentially facing felonies and prison time isn't the republican's best chance to win? >> i think it has to be that. if you don't do that, if all the people that support trump right now line up with trump in these primaries, we know who the nominee's going to be. if you're one of these other candidates and you're trying to

actually win the nomination, you've got to move some of those voters and create some doubts about a trump candidacy in their minds so that they're potentially going to be somebody else's voters including yours. so i think they've got to start drawing some sharper contrast. we've seen trump draw sharp contrasts with ron desantis. if people are going to draw sharp contrasts with donald trump, he's going to walk through this nomination a lot more easily than people think. >> in the meantime, paul, trump is a little bit unhappy about the idea that he can't say whatever he wants to say whenever he wants to say it. yesterday the judge explained the terms of his order barring trump from publicly disclosing evidence, but emphasized he wasn't going to impede trump's ability to campaign. he said, quote, trump is certainly free to deny the charges, he is free to defend himself against the charges. he is free to campaign. he is free to do just about anything that does not violate the specific terms of this

protective order. do you think that this can be removed from presidential politics? >> i think it's very unlikely, but chris, just as the constitution doesn't forbid someone from running for president when they're facing charges or even if they're indicted, the constitution doesn't say that candidate for presidential office gets any special treatment, so i think judge merchan in manhattan is likely to treat this as a normal case in which any criminal defendant or any criminal defendant were come second, the responsibility to answer criminal charges comes first. >> i want to ask you too about this new information we learned that trump's lawyers have requested a meeting with attorney general merrick garland. they want to discuss what they consider to be unfair treatment in the special counsel's investigation.

number one, do you think the a.g. would agree to such a meeting, and does this request in any way suggest or is there anything to suggest that charges could be imminent? >> so, chris, this meeting is not going to happen. merrick garland appointed a special counsel in this case to avoid situations like this in the throws of her presidential campaign, trump is running against biden, and he wants to meet with biden's appointed attorney general to ask him not to bring charges. garland won't get involved until jack smith issues his thumbs up or thumbs down decision about prosecution. but yeah, this case is getting hot. and chris, mar-a-lago is the federal case that if trump is convicted, he's most likely to go to prison. >> paul butler, robert gibbs, to be continued. thank you, gentlemen. appreciate it. a super typhoon wreaking havoc on the u.s. territory of guam. we'll take a look at what's

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big deal, and it's been taking a couple of days to figure out exactly what happened. earlier this week, basically what happened, two militia groups, they're anti-kremlin militias, the freedom of russia region claimed they were able to succeed in an attack inside russia in a cross border incursion. russia, the defense ministry, the kremlin is saying this is the biggest cross border incursion that they have seen since the war started. in videos verified in nbc. ukrainian officials have said we do not back these guys. they're saying, and they held a very rare press conference today where they did a little bit, and you can see this on the screen right now, a little bit of a propaganda coup, a little publicity stunt, they said we are backed by the ukrainian government. we get assistance, we get fuel, we get advice. they helped on what targets to attack. from moscow what we're hearing is from the defense minister. he spoke earlier today. he said they launched a massive counter terrorism operation in

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the great get away weekend for memorial day is already underway, aaa projecting a record 42 million americans will be traveling to celebrate the unofficial start of summer. airports and airlines nationwide are upping their staffing and their game to handle the crush. here's nbc's tom costello. >> reporter: it's the morning push in atlanta. >> we going to try to get you on the next one, okay. >> reporter: and regina peoples and pedro ramos, the delta red coats are on the concourse. >> this is two boarding passes, so you got 14d and 14e. >> weather delays, missed connections, whatever the issues, the red coats are the problem solvers. what's the most common customer issue you have to deal with?

>> the most common would be if they missed their flight due to the weather. >> reporter: cherise evans is in charge of every red coat nationwide. >> they can make exceptions above and beyond what typical gate agent can do. >> reporter: you just opened the door to a lot of exceptions though. >> not necessarily. there are exceptions within region. >> the pressure is really on, the tsa expects 10 million travelers this weekend. >> reporter: this week delta says thursday, friday, and next tuesday will be the busiest. while all airlines have staffed up to avoid a repeat of last year's pilot shortage, now it's the faa that doesn't have enough air traffic controllers, but so far this year, cancellations are running below 2%. >> so far this may, we're seeing those numbers hold. but this weekend will be a test

of the system. >> reporter: united's ceo scott kirby. most americans are driving, not flying this weekend. 37 million of us hitting the road. gas prices averaging $3.56 a gallon, a lot cheaper than 4.60 last year, but with americans eager for a summer vacation, it is the airlines that are in the spotlight. >> you're welcome, you have a good day. >> reporter: i just watched you interact with a customer and you had the biggest, broadest smile the whole time, is that the secret sauce? >> that is the secret sauce, but don't tell everybody. >> reporter: just keep smiling, when you're rude, smile away. >> you kill them with kindness. that's all that we can do. >> reporter: tom costello, nbc news. we have a lot to cover in our second hour of "chris jansing reports." let's get right to