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ensure that the police and the city pay for what they describe as a reckless act. plus, the desantis campaign says they have 8 million reasons why voters should forget about their rocky rollout and get on board with their campaign, but is the desantis strategy focused on winning or just hoping everyone else's campaign falls apart. and is the debt drama almost done? the markets surging today on word that negotiators may be on the verge of agreement. that's just part one. the latest on the fight still to come as time and money continue to run out. we start with those new developments in the latest devastating story that once again is bringing police brutality to the forefront of american conversation. we are hearing from yet another mother of another black son, this one only 11 years old trying to make sense of yet another police shooting.

this time aderrien murry survived being shot in the chest, and his physical wounds may heal, but emotionally and logically the family is struggling to understand why the officer fired. >> to come out with their hands up, but you're shooting. i don't understand. i don't want to die. that's what he was saying, while i was on the ground, i said you're not going to die, baby. you're not going to die. just keep talking. >> a lawyer for the family says they plan to file a federal civil rights lawsuit against the city, the police chief, and the officer. and as this story gains national attention, calls for the officer to be fired and charged in the shooting are growing. he has been placed on paid administrative leave, and mississippi authorities say they're investigating what happened. all of this after just yesterday, members of the congressional black caucus called on congress to pass legislation that reforms police nationally. three years to the day after george floyd was murdered and one year since president biden

signed an executive order to improve policing. nbc's erin mclaughlin is following this story for us. also with me nbc's ryan nobles on capitol hill and civil rights attorney and former prosecutor david henderson. >> reporter: the investigation is ongoing. the mother of the child says her son was following the officer's directions immediately before he was shot, and the family's attorney is calling on police to release the police body camera video so they can see exactly what happened. >> outside city hall in end indianola, mississippi, growing demand to fire a police officer accused of shooting an 11-year-old boy in the chest. after the child called authorities for help. >> told me to get him justice. >> reporter: aderrien murry is home recovering this morning after investigators say he was

seriously wounded while police responded to a domestic disturbance call at the child's home. >> he asked me in the hospital like why they shot him. >> reporter: his mother said she asked aderrien to call police when an altercation with the father of one of her other children escalated saturday. an officer holding a gun told everyone inside the home to leave the home, including aderrien when he was shot coming out of the bedroom. >> he obeyed the command and was immediately shot by that same officer that just told him to come out. it makes no sense. >> reporter: according to cnn indianola police have confirmed the officer involved in the shooting is greg capers. nbc news has not independently confirmed that. officer capers has been placed on paid administrative leave after a unanimous vote by the city council. nbc news has not been able to reach officer capers for comment. the mississippi department of public safety tells nbc news the state bureau of investigation is currently assessing this

critical incident and gathering evidence adding there will be no further comment until the probe is over. now as aderrien murry heals from his wounds, which according to the family's attorney includes a collapsed lung, lacerated liver, and fractured ribs, there are growing questions about how this nearly fatal altercation with police almost ended a young boy's life. >> an 11-year-old black boy in the city of indianola came within an inch of losing his life. he had done nothing wrong and everything right. >> reporter: the family's lawyer says he plans to file a federal civil rights lawsuit against the city, the police chief, and officer greg capers. that filing is expected to happen next week. chris. >> so david, the city saying nothing, but that this is under investigation basically. murry's family calling for any number of things. let me take them one by one. let's start with the body cam footage, which would be very

instructive obviously. would tell us a lot. what are the considerations there? >> chris, it's hard to explain here with regard to what the considerations are. the response from law enforcement here is woefully inadequate. you've got to remember they've had a lot of practice getting ready for how to deal with these police shootings because they keep happening. the rule people have been moving towards is more transparency, let's be open and honest about what happened. there's more reason to do that here than any of the similar cases we've seen before. amber guyger murders botham jean, atatiana jefferson, when you shoot an 11-year-old in his home after he called you for help and he was doing what you told him to do, there should be immediate transparency releasing body camera footage and assuing the public we are going to make sure justice is served here. >> the family also wants this officer fired from a legal

standpoint, david, what does the city and police department have to consider before making that move? >> chris, here's where this gets to be difficult for me because i'm a former children's lawyer. i've dealt with lots of cases in court where children were hurt, and generally the rule is doesn't matter what your politics are, doesn't matter what your background are, it doesn't even matter whether you are serving time yourself, everyone agrees something has to be done. and typically people take the approach the person should be buried underneath the jail. the only time that changes is when we're talking about the person who caused the act being a police officer. there are policies in place to protect police officers during investigations, but what leaders need to understand is that sometimes you have to suspend the standard play book and reassure people that, look, we're actually here to bring people together, not pull them apart, which is what we've seen on the cases you and i have discussed lately involving the police. >> we've seen this as you've said, just so many times. so what can the family do in the absence of what many other

municipalities, police departments, as you rightfully point out have done in the past, which is to get ahead of something like this as much as they possibly can. >> i think the family can do what they're already doing, chris. if you think about it, the history of the civil rights movement, especially in this specific context is the history of moms speaking up for their babies, and that goes back to emmett till for me. so what you've got to remember as someone who's also prosecuted cases involving domestic violence, moms call the police to protect their babies, not to get them shot. and so i think they need to reinforce that message that people can identify with it. and the other thing i would say we need to do is stop referring to this as a reckless act. the officer drew his gun intentionally. he aimed for center mass as he was trained to do intentionally. he pulled the trigger intentionally, all after he ordered everyone to come outside the house. that's not recklessness. you did that on purpose, the fact that you immediately regretted doing it doesn't change the manner of your intent.

>> i don't know about you, but immediately just in terms of age thought of tamir rice, right? and it's -- there was an argument at that point, well, he seemed older than he was, but do you see similarities here, and if so, how have we not come further since then? >> i see similarity, chris, because i've got to be frank. i thought that was a deeply racist argument when it was geared towards tamir rice. he's a kid playing with a gun doing absolutely nothing wrong or illegal. and after he shot and killed wrongfully by the people who were supposed to protect him, they come up with ways to attack him to justify what they did, and there's another case i'd add to that along a similar line, that's the case of adam toledo out of chicago, an officer is chasing him down an alley, says stop, put your hands up. he stops, puts his hands up and then he gets shot. there has to be accountability when that happens. honestly, we should all agree if you wrongfully shoot a dmitd kid in the line of duty you

should never get to be an officer again. the response is woefully inadequate and doesn't reassure people justice will be served. >> ryan, tell us more about this new push on capitol hill from black lawmakers to do more on police reform. they've tried before. they've failed before. what are we hearing? >> well, chris, it seems like every time there's an incident like this somewhere across the country, members of the congressional black caucus, other members, once again reignite this push for police reform across the concern and almost every single time it ends up going nowhere. listen to what the chair of the congressional black caucus steven horseford had to say about this issue yesterday. >> we all should agree bad policing has no place in any community. when it does occur, we need to hold those who mistreat people or violate their rights accountable. i'll continue to work with the white house and the department of justice to see that the provisions of this executive order have the most effective

impact. let's continue to work together to make all of our communities safe. >> and so you can see there he's coming at it from two different angles. first, there is the push for the white house and the justice department to implement the provisions of the president's executive order, but there's also at least a nominal effort to once again reignite some sort of legislation here. chris, you'll remember that tim scott who we should also point out is now a candidate for president in the republican primary was very close to a deal with senator cory booker of new jersey, which they hoped would bring about some level of police reform and just as it got almost to the finish line, it fell apart. there's really been nothing substantive since that happened, and there are are no signs, other than press conferences right now that there's any real movement towards serious reform here in washington. >> yeah, david, but the need obviously is in the numbers. "the washington post" keeps a database of officer-involved

killings, and so far this year there have been 1,083, more than seven a day now. that's not saying that there weren't many that were justified, and in this case of course fortunately and his mother seemed frankly surprised almost by the fact that aderrien was able to survive, you know, being shot as you said, right where police are trained to shoot. what does a parent do now? the talk, which was how do you behave if you're a young black man or in this case a black boy and you're faced with a police officer and then he does the right thing? his hands are in the air? what do you do? >> chris, there's nothing more that you can do here, and i love that you asked the question that way because this was a recent top k of conversation after my church's annual prayer justice where i said the prayer for

justice. and part of what i said the talk keeps becoming more and more complex. it's no longer simply telling your child, you know what, if a police officer stops you, here's what you need to do to make it home safely. this has also escalated. you've got to think about the context, we've seen knocking on the wrong door to pick up your younger sibling could get you shot. grabbing on the wrong car door handle when you confuse that car with another one can get you shot. sitting in a parking lot eating a hamburger can get you shot because someone confuses you with someone else. it has reached the point where you can only warn a child so much about what to do and not to do. a mom says call the police so they can keep us safe. you do what they tell you to do, and then you get shot. this is beyond the bounds of what can be accomplished during the talk. that's why we need to help each other out by taking appropriate action. you and i have talked about it are from the east to the west,

the north, the south and every place in between, and yet we still talk about these incidents as though they are isolated, one-offs and not reflections of a broader systemic problem with policing. >> david henderson, erin mclaughlin and ryan nobles thank you for being part of this important conversation. we'll continue to follow this case. racing to get a deal done, the latest on the debt ceiling debate with still no agreement in 60 seconds. nt in 60 seconds. mara, are you sure you don't want -to go bowling with us tonight? -yeah. no. there's my little marzipan! [ laughs ] oh, my daughter gives the best hugs! we're just passing through on our way to the jazz jamboree. [ imitates trumpet playing ] and we wanted to thank america's number-one motorcycle insurer -for saving us money. -thank you. [ laughs ] mara, your parents are -- exactly like me? i know, right? well, cherish your friends and loved ones. let's roll, daddio! let's boogie-woogie! whenever you're hungry, there's a deal on the subway app. buy one footlong,

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i'm going to work as hard as we can to try to get this done, get more progress today and finish the job. >> but as time is running out, so is the cash. right now the u.s. treasury department's balance is below $49.5 billion, which as one bloomberg reporter points out means that 24 individuals on the bloomberg billionaire's list have more money than the treasury does right now. i want to bring in nbc news senior congressional correspondent garrett haake, also with us "new york times" chief white house correspondent and msnbc political analyst peter baker. okay, garrett, top gop negotiator congressman patrick mchenry said no in-person meetings planned yet today for debt ceiling negotiations. so what is happening? >> well, chris, it seems like we might be in a situation where the two sides are trying to make sure that whatever deal they think they are close to agreeing to that they're also then able to turn around and sell to their respective lawmakers who are going to have to pass it.

i mean, the universe of things to discuss in this deal has always been quite small, and once you agree to a top line number, which has always been the trickiest part of this, it's just a matter of kind of turning the dials to see where the sweet spot is to, you know, extend the debt limit and for how long and at what cost. there's been a lot of reporting around the idea of a two-year extension to the debt limit with two years worth of spending caps attached to it. we tried to ask patrick mchenry about that this morning. he's not really talking. listen to this. >> everyone wants a detail of this. everyone wants a tweet. i want an agreement that changes the trajectory of the country. that's the speaker's imperative to us. that's the reason why we passed our bill. that's how these negotiations changed entirely from white house that did not want to negotiate to the one that is currently negotiating, but the tweets, the context, the details and all this stuff, the leaks, don't serve getting an agreement that changes the trajectory of

the country. that's what this is about. that's the fundamental piece of this arrangement that we're focused on closing out. if we can close it out, we can meet the deadline and the obligations we have to the american public. >> chris, what i hear there, particularly when he makes the point about the white house negotiating after they said they weren't going to negotiate is a republican trying to remind other republicans of the wins they already have. that might be a necessary part of the process to take whatever handshake agreement comes together between the president and the speaker and turn it into something that can actually pass both houses. because if that didn't happen today, it's almost impossible to see how it gets done before june 1st, and then we might want to start calling some of those billionaires you mentioned to see if they might float us for a few days. >> there is this key moment from

ha scheme jeffries. >> kevin mccarthy is presuming democrats are going to be able to make up the difference. is that a miscalculation on the republican side? >> yes. >> so it's easy to make a miscalculation under this kind of pressure and with all the moving parts, so how confident do you see the white house about the ability to get a deal done once a deal is done if that makes sense? >> no, it does make sense because you're exactly right. there are so many different calculations here, right? first you have to get a deal that kevin mccarthy and joe biden can live with. then you have to have a deal that the republican caucus and the democratic caucus can live with at least by and large, right? you don't have to have all of them. you're going to lose a lot of o'republicans on the right who won't agree to any kind of deal. you're definitely going to lose some progressives on the left who think -- particularly on work requirements for social safety net programs is too far to go. the question is can you make this a deal in which both sides, enough feel like they got enough

of a win that it's worth going along with it. it does feel like that's a real big priority for both sides as they try to craft the final shape of this deal. they cannot afford to have one side or the other look like they have gotten everything and the other side not because then they went be able to pull together the coalition for bipartisan votes they need. >> in a way the kind of silent partner is the political implications and how people who have to vote on this think it's going to play. and it's really interesting that, you know, after mccarthy sent the house home for the weekend, the democrats were up in arms, but now president biden is planning to leave washington for the weekend and a democratic lawmaker told "politico," i'm quoting here, please tell me that's not true, you're going to see a caucus that's so i'm going to say ticked off, that's not what he said. if he's stupid enough to do that. what is the frustration level in washington, peter, but also the

worry level about or how are we going to be able to play this back home? >> yeah, i mean, that's the optics, of course, the president's going to be going to camp david tonight. he could obviously do a deal from camp david. he's going to go to wilmington which is also not that far away. he's planning to be back on monday. the house can't vote over the weekend anyway because kevin mccarthy has already promised to give them 72 hours to look at any bill, when they come up with a bill, they still have to put it in legislative language. it's more about optics. who's in town, who's take thg seriously. the president cut short his foreign trip in order to be here. he's already reacted to that, looking like you're here in town and dealing with this. it is a measure of how frustrated some some are with the president. . hakeem jeffries has to live with it in his caucus. that's why he's taking the harder stance in the good cop, bad cop kind of situation. >> peter baker, garrett haake, to be continued.

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reporting about ron desantis's ambitious campaign strategy, one that's fueled by big money but framed by some equally big assumptions about his opponents. any campaign starts with cash and desantis has already raise add ton of that, $8.2 million in the first 24 hours according to his team. nearly as much as trump raised in the first six weeks of his campaign. now, team desantis says they'll use that money to focus on the first four primary states, underscoring their belief this race could be over by mid-march. according to nbc news his strategy also rests on a potentially shakier premise. first, that it will end up being just a two-person race and second, big donors who talk to the team tell nbc they believe trump will be bogged down by his league woes providing them the opening they need. i want to bring in nbc's dasha burns in miami, she's been writing about the desantis strategy, nbc's senior national politics reporter jonathan allen

is here along with former florida republican congressman and msnbc political analyst david jolly. skeptic might look at this plan and say what does it say about desantis if his campaign is relying on the idea that trump will be damaged by his legal problems and the other candidates will crash and burn? >> sure. chris, it speaks first to the strength of donald trump, something we did not know since months ago when he rolled out his campaign, largely to a flop. but when he really turned on his a game, we saw donald trump take command of the party, move his numbers above 50th%, and so i think this the strategy of ron desantis is actually the same strategy for tim scott, nikki haley and everyone else. you are hoping that donald trump somehow wounds himself, that an indictment or an additional charge somehow shatters that invincibility, but we haven't seen it yet -- >> but david, for a campaign --

for a campaign to essentially say on his own our candidate is not strong enough to do this, so the other guy needs to crash and burn and admit all his legal problems. that's the reality? >> yeah, there are legitimate questions, chris, should ron desantis even be running this cycle because he might end up losing and then having that loser tag on him. look, i think the other candidates have gotten in because they've also seen the weakness of ron desantis. they've seen his ceiling. look, anybody who's going to take on donald trump at this point, the strategy has to be a delegate slog through the early states. that clearly is where desantis intends to spend his money. >> all right, dasha, tell us a little bit more about what you've learned about team desantis's strategy right now in these early days of his official campaign. >> reporter: well, look, chris, that number that you mentioned at the top there, $8.2 million, they are going to be using that as evidence as they try to make that case that there is interest

and enthusiasm in an alternative to the former president. they're going to be making that case as they hit the trail next week in those critical early states, iowa, new hampshire, south carolina. they're going to say, look, that shows that people are looking for that alternative, and that best alternative is ron desantis, right? and they are going to try to distinguish themselves both from the former president and from the rest of the pack. they tried to do that with the launch. they're going to try to do that now out in the field. and you're right, from the beginning they have seen this, even before they were formally in the race. they have seen this as a two-man race. they're going to get attacks from below from those candidates that are trying to make their way up in the polls right now, and they're going to get punched down from donald trump, but they're really only going to be focused on the former president. you've already seen over the last 24 hours or so desantis start to sharpen his attacks getting a little bit more direct at the former president,

particularly on his covid response. that's going to be a major, major talking point, and they're going to continue to try to set up that contrast. they're going to use the platform of his florida blueprint that he has made, that he has accomplished a lot here in this state that he's not just talk but action. they're going to try to paint the former president as just that, as former as the past and desantis as the future, and now they have a pretty big war chest in order to try to do that. how will that strategy play out, just how directly will he continue to attack the former president? that's something that we're going to be watching as he actually gets in front of voters as an official candidate next week, chris. >> the other question in this, congressman is how much will a war chest, even a substantial one buy you? first of all, take a look at the 2020 election, the numbers were crazy, $5.7 billion is what the presidential cost. and then that was, what, essentially double the previous

record, but even maybe more than that, donald trump gets incalculable free media, right? how does -- >> sure, sure. >> how does fund-raising counter that? >> well, you'd rather have it than not, and ron desantis is probably more strongly positioned than any candidate including donald trump for the amount of money he can raise that is an affirmation and reflection of where many of the stakeholders of the party are, but you know, this question about ron desantis is does this all end up like rick perry's campaign or fred thompson's campaign or scott walker's campaign where you have the infrastructure and the money, but you just can't deliver a message that ultimately works. the ron desantis campaign is a juggernaut of a campaign. it arguably has done everything right in terms of infrastructure. its messaging to dasha's point solely relies on donald trump's a loser and i can be a winner. he's yet to draw a contrast with donald trump and to do so

aggressively. a lot of republican voters are going to say i'll stick with the old guy. >> you wrote a story about a different aspect of the desantis fund-raising. it's actually about his administrative staff, not his campaign staff soliciting money, tell us about that. >> yeah, this a scoop first nosed out by our colleague matt dixon, what happened here is that ron desantis's administration officials were putting out solicitations to florida lobbyists, putting out donation links that could be tracked as basically bundling codes is what it's called. basically the idea was the governor's staff was telling these lobbyists time to pony up to the desantis presidential campaign, and they're doing it at a time when the florida budget has not yet been finished, when projects that some of these lobbyists have been working on elective issues they've been trying to work on are still in the mix, where desantis still has the ability to line item veto things, and

lobbyists in florida were very upset about this, people familiar with political ethics, i know it's kind of a little bit of an oxymoron there, but people concerned with political ethics say this raises ethical and legal questions. >> jonathan allen, dasha burns, congressman david jolly, thank you all for being with us. appreciate that. up next, a new investigation is revealing the widespread failures plaguing navy s.e.a.l.s training. you're watching "chris jansing reports" only on msnbc. y on msnc you wake up more energized. introducing purple's new mattresses our unique gel flex grid draws away heat, helping you fall asleep faster. it relieves pressure for less “ow,” and more “ahhh.” and instantly adapts as you move, without ever disturbing your partner. amazing. sleep better. live purple. save $800 off mattress sets at our memorial day event. visit purple.com or a store near you.

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authorities in japan have now confirmed a suspect has been arrested in a shooting and stabbing attack that left four people dead. police say on thursday a 31-year-old man armed with a rifle and a knife killed two women and two officers in the japanese city of nagano. the rampage left locals shocked because gun violence is extremely rare in japan. it has strict firearms laws. according to the national police agency, last year just four people died from gun-related incidents across the entire country with a population of 125 million people. a scathing new report found failures across multiple systems in navy s.e.a.l. training caused the death of 24-year-old kyle mullen during the program's notorious hell week in february of last year. i've covered hell week firsthand, it is legendary training for the military's most

elite operators. it's also the most grueling part of s.e.a.l. training an extraordinary physical, mental, and emotional challenge of herculean proportions testing limits of running, swimming, strength, focus, and sleep detective deprivation. by the time the week was up, mullen was regularly, quote, coughing and spitting up what appeared to be blood into a gatorade bottle. according to the 200 page report in the post hell week briefing, mullen and others were told if they went to medical personnel who do not understand hell week, it could interfere with training. nbc's courtney kube is here to discuss. courtney, does this report call for any immediate action, any changes? >> so there is the potential that there will be what the military would call accountability actions out of this report, and specifically what that means is this 200 page report goes to the navy's legal

office. they'll review it, and they'll make some recommendations to the naval special warfare. that's essentially the command that everyone calls the s.e.a.l.s, the naval special warfare. out of that, it is possible that several sailors who were involved in that buds week, that training week, could face some sort of reprimand. chris, there already are three sailors who have faced an administrative reprimand, but beyond that, it's really hard to say or speculate at this point what the navy's legal office will determine. but it's plausible that some more people could face some sort of accountability, more likely frankly administrative in nature, though. >> when i was covering hell week i was going back and forth to coronado for six months, but -- there i am. it's unbelievable to see what they do. i had extensive discussions during that time about how do you balance preparing trainees for some of the most strenuous and dangerous missions in the military without sacrificing

their day-to-day safety. they talked about it a lot, so it's not a new discussion. this is more than ten years ago, but is it your sense that this seriously renews that conversation? >> it does, but i mean, not just -- the investigation that came out yesterday is one thing, but there was actually what's called a line of duty investigation that came out back in october that actually addressed some these things, and even since kyle mullen's death more than a year ago, the navy has implemented some new changes, specifically around the training. so hell week is week four of buds, hell week is what it's referred to or called because it's one of the most intense weeks. they face sleep deprivation, extremely cold water. they swim a lot. it's one of those -- one of the times where they're really faced with these difficult endurance tasks from sunday until friday morning. now, in the case of kyle mullen, he was visited, he went to medical every day that week and his symptoms got progressively worse throughout the week.

things like coughing, fluid in his lungs. by the end of the week, by the time he actually made it through hell week as you mentioned, chris, he had extreme swelling in his limbs. the medical report, though, and a number of medical professionals who were interviewed and i read through their interviews in that line of duty investigation several months ago, they said it's very common for some of these candidates to have similar symptoms. again, they're exposed to extreme cold, a lot of swimming. a lot of them end up having this coughing as you were saying, at times coughing up fluids and even what appears to be a red tinged maybe blood, and they have extreme swelling in their extremities. so because of that his symptoms didn't necessarily raise any more red flags than some of the other candidates who were there and who were facing medical problems. in the case of kyle mullen, though, he had an enlarged heart and it's not really clear why. it was about twice the size of a man his size, especially someone so athletic. because of his specific case,

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this weekend signs of a summer travel rebound, aaa expects this to be the third busiest memorial day weekend for travel over the last two decades. more than 37 million people will hit the road. 3.4 million will fly this weekend, and nearly 2 million are opting for other modes of transportation, things like buses and trains. the good news, gas is now a full dollar cheaper per gallon than it was this time last year. as a headline from "the wall street journal" puts it, america's travel resurgence is finally here. nbc's george solis is at philadelphia international airport, and nbc's lindsey reiser is inside new york's penn station. george, what are you hearing from travelers at the airport, and how are things looking? >> reporter: hey, chris, there's a certain giddiness from travelers i've been speaking with. many of them eager to get on a plate, get to their destination. many of them trying to avoid

some of that disturbance in the florida area where there is some bad weather. people are jonesing for some normalcy here. many of them getting on planes for the first time since the pandemic started and, you know, they know that right now is probably the best time to travel. sure, tickets are a little bit more expensive, about 2.5 million expected to go through some check points, as i'm looking around almost every one of these gates here, fully staffed with tsa agents. last year there was a number of delays and shortages caused by shortages at tsa and among the airlines. the airlines saying look, we've got it this year. we have adequate staffing both on the ground and even added highways in the air to make sure people are getting to their destinations faster. i asked a number of travelers here on the ground

as you mentioned gas being so much cheaper, that is also a good thing. but travelers are really putting the airlines to the test. >> all right. lindsay, what is it like where you are? >> penn station is completely packed. a couple days ago just a few travelers here and there, but the entire hall is full of people. and when we talk about travel by air, car, train and bus, the trained a bus category that is seeing the largest year to year increase according to aaa predictions. so about 20% of a difference compared to this time last year. amtrak just one of the companies operating out of here expects 75,000 more passengers this time this year compared to last year. what is driving that? you see it on your screen here,

the northeast corridor travel, cities like new york city, washington, d.c., philadelphia, boston, baltimore. and they choose this travel because it is convenient and they can get some work done. listen to what one woman told me. >> i think the cost is a big factor. the cost and fact that you don't have to deal with traffic at all as opposed to driving or taking a bus. also on trains like for me, big thing is that i can also get work done if i need to. >> reporter: so amtrak says they are expecting about a third of the passengers riding this weekend to be riding for the first time, so i'll take a peek and see if i can see any, they have people in the neon green vests trying to tell everybody, help everybody where go, how it all workers. >> lindsay, george, thank you both so much. next a series of orca attacks off the coast of

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and it stays off. (soft music) a connecticut woman suffered a terrifying shark attack while snorkeling in turks and caicos causing her to lose her leg. the 22-year-old was in the water when the shark attacked her. it is being investigated by local police. officials say that while attacks like there are highly unusual, anyone in the water there should exercise caution. i would think so. and there is new video showing yet another group of orcas getting too close for comfort off the coast of spain, a scene becoming more common. orcas are going after ships causing a lot of damage and researchers are trying to figure out why. and keir simmons has the story.

>> reporter: a british couple setting sail off the coast of morocco when a group of killer whales started battering their boat, the orcas continuing the barrage for at least an hour. they managed to stay afloat but days later another vessel was not so lucky. it sank as the spanish coast guard rushed to the rescue. it is one of at least three boats that have sunk because of the orcas since last summer and many more have been seriously damaged in the last three years. according to researchers, there were about 15 orca interactions when this began this 2020. incredibly that number has now ballooned into the hundreds by 2023. and all of them happening here along the liberian peninsula. >> doesn't fit with anything we've seen anywhere else in the world. so three theories.

one is the whales are super stressed and acting out because the oceans are too noisy. >> reporter: theory two, the jaws thing. some experts believe the sea creatures may be out for revenge. organizing the attacks after a whale in the pod possibly a female was hit by a boat. experts say orcas are very social and do often learn behavior from one another. but andrew, from the university of british columbia believes it is just play time. >> killer whales will rush up behind a boat and sometimes put their snort straight into the propeller. >> reporter: if the whales think they are having fun, for terrified sailors, the joke has gone too far.

>> yeah, that is keir simmons. and a lot to cover in this second hour of chris jansing reports. let's get right to it. at this hour, out of the game. doug mastriano, the far right state senator, says he will not be throwing his hat into the ring for senate in 2024. about who that impacts battle of control of the congress. and gifted, the justice department now investigating whether expensive gifts were given to senator bob menendez and his wife including a mercedes, jewelry and an apartment. plus get out. in an unanimous decision, a republican-led house investigative committee in texas voted to bring 20 articles of impeachment against t