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you, from nbc news here in miami, welcome everyone to alex reid reports. we begin with breaking news, this just in an update from capitol hill, where negotiators from the white house and house republicans are working through the holiday weekend, inching closer to an agreement to raise the debt ceiling. it comes as after a news of some new breathing room, as the treasury secretary now says the deadline for default is june 5th. moments ago, house speaker kevin mccarthy, giving an update. but. >> i feel closer to an agreement now than i did before, because i see progress. so this is not easy initiating for me. that does not matter.

>> at one pmi, i will talk with democratic congressman jasmine crockett about the negotiations, as well as renewed calls for police reform after an 11 year old boy is shot by an officer. more breaking news for you, in two hours, the texas house begins debating whether to impeach the states republican attorney general, ken paxton after a republican-led investigation accused paxton of committing multiple crimes while in office, we are going to have a live report from the state capital for you in just minutes. also new, today, prosecutors in new york have informed donald trump's attorneys the evidence in their hush money case against the former president includes an audio recording of him and an unknown witness. that is according to report from a court filing that was made public on friday the case is expected to go to trial next march. vice president kamala harris making history today becoming the first woman to deliver the commencement speech at the u.s. military academy in west point, new york. >> to the class of 2023, and to

all of the cadets here today. you stand on the broad shoulders of generations of americans who have worn the uniform. including many barrier breakers and trailblazers. our military is strongest when it fully reflects the people of america. >> we are going to have more on that for you in just a moment, but first, urgency on capitol hill at this hour. some new developments as both sides meet trying to broker a debt ceiling deal, we've got two reports for you. as i welcome you both, i julie tsirkin on capitol hill, what are we learning about the negotiations at this hour? >> >> oh boy, alex. what a difference a week makes. because when i was talking to last weekend, speaker mccarthy did not sound optimistic that he said the two sides are very far apart, but today, just last hour, speaker mccarthy is sounding more hopeful, more

optimistic then a deal could come as soon as today, they say they are not there yet, but they say he expressed more confidence in a deal that we have heard from him in days prior, take a listen to what he told reporters it. >> i'm not feeling within this bill, from what we have been able to achieve, we will spend this money -- is everything i wanted, no, it has to pass the senate, and it also has to pass the president. but i firmly believe that people, if they sit back and look at this, from all of americans, they will say, you know what. that is a much better product than what was happening in the past. they will feel that there is a change in washington. >> so you can reveal many details for when you can see texas of this detail, he did reveal it will be less than two under pages, not a 5000-plus bills, that is good news for mccarthy because he of course needs to sell this to his house members center publicans will also need to buy into this, and democrats as well, progressives really unhappy with the way the

conversation was moving and work requirements, specifically, they wanted the president to hold the line, as jeffries, the leader of the house, the democratic leader, said yesterday. we will see if they did. >> look, 200 pages is a lot better than 1000, so give me a timeline, because lawmakers have to go through this. how long would it take before passing any potential agreement, june 5th, as you know, is a week from monday? >> speaker mccarthy said he will give his members 72 hours, three days, to review what is in the bill. that is often a problem when we see these big bills trying to be squeezed upon members, members often say they did not have time to read them. so you see the timeline on your screen. technically, if mccarthy wants to start this voting process on tuesday, as he told reporters just last hour, they are going to have to release this bill today. so members have enough time to read, it process, it the house can vote on it once they get back from memorial day, and then the senate, once they are back in town later this week, can take it up as well. and we've already seen some senate republicans disgruntled at the prospect of this deal, senator vance back to former

president trump who, you remember called on republicans to let the default be breached. let the debt ceiling be breached and he already said he doesn't believe janet yellen's next date that she updated of june 5th. we will see what happens in the next few hours, here. >> thank you for keeping a close eye on that, let's head down the hill, everyone. and we will see allie raffa for us at the white house. moments ago, ali, we got this update from a democratic source from the democratic associations. let's hear what you are hearing from the white house, as well as democrats about reaching a deal. >> yeah, alex. well to start off, i think it is important to note that really the big question that all of us who have been covering this process step-by-step are asking ourselves yesterday after treasury secretary janet yellen extended that earliest potential default deadline to june 5th, we were asking ourselves, you know, will these negotiators keep that june 1st date as a pace that they were working on. or will they use this process,

and like i said, as you heard julie mention their speaker mccarthy is saying that they are very close to echo that optimism that they had from president biden yesterday before he left to camp david. but at this point, negotiators even after this point as they met into the wee hours of the morning are continuing to meet now there is no indication that a solid bipartisan deal has been made, and until one is, we are still monitoring this timeline very closely because of the long and complicated back half of this process that julie just laid out of what is going to happen once that deals made, and it is now in the hands of the house and senate. take a listen to what congressman richie torres had to say about these negotiations earlier today. >> i am cautious optimistic that a deal will be negotiated, and a default will be averted, and congress will be called back into session by next week. but there is nothing to celebrate here.

this is purely a self inflicted wound, if there ever was one. and the mere threat of a default, separate from the act itself, is deeply destabilizing to the american economy and it is deeply damaging to our reputation as a country. >> alex, that democratic source tells us that the president remains engaged in this process even from camp david where, he is expected to remain until tomorrow, and until then, these negotiators are continuing to meet over the phone, virtually, trying to work out every remaining piece of this puzzle until a bipartisan deal is made, alex. >> let me ask you though, ali, you know how often in congress, they don't put a deal on to the floor before vote unless they know they have the votes, right? so if a deal gets reached, are they confident both the house and the senate will give the thumbs up and say, we are passing this? >> well, that's a big question at this point. you would assume so, but from what we are hearing, from, remember, far members of the far-right and far left, there

has been criticism, very vocal criticism on what these negotiators have been talking about. these concessions in these negotiations. whether they what they heard is going to actually end up in this bill, in this eventual piece of legislation, is still the big question at this point. >> we expect this to be cleared up when they have this 72-hour window that is speaker mccarthy has vowed that they will have to read and review this legislation before it is actually voted on, alex. >> do you think you have a sense within a white house negotiations that if there are enough people in the middle that will come together and pass this, yes, we will have the outliers, that you are referencing on both ends. but do you think they will have the votes? >> that is certainly what they are hoping for, at least on the house and. but remember how sensitive this process becomes once it reaches the senate? all it takes because of that slim majority in the senate is one senator to gun this process up. so you have to imagine, in this, room where these negotiations

are happening on these halls, on these video chats, but that there are concessions being made that each side can get what they want to teach that can get as much support is a need to get this across the finish line, alex. >> we shall see, allie raffa, thank you so much from the white house. we have breaking news. this from mexico, everyone. and some new pictures of one of the world's most dangerous volcanoes erupting right now. this is happening just 45 miles from mexico city, and you are about 25 million people. the volcano has rumbled every day this week spewing ash and smoke and is capable of catastrophic eruptions. mexico has deployed thousands of troops and closed schools to prepare for any possible evacuations. asked and back here in the u.s., a very look at a very wet and windy myrtle beach, north carolina, we are some pretty dangerous beach condition and flash floodings are likely this weekend. that will cause some major flight delays in both charlotte, maybe some atlanta as well.

the rockies and the plains will see some scattered storms, but the rest of the country will be sunny and warm with some minimal travel delays expected -- now this, it dropped rather quietly on the friday so you may have even missed, it but it could be more explosive than anything we have heard donald trump's own words caught on tape, and then there is more, on mar-a-lago, we are back, in just 60 seconds. in just 60 seconds. just 60 seconds. the subway series is getting an upgrade! the new #19 the pickleball club. who knew the subway series could get even better? me, i knew. maybe you should host a commercial then. sure, okay. subway series just keeps getting better. ♪ tourists tourists that turn into scientists. tourists photographing thousands of miles of remote coral reefs.

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protective order barring him from speaking publicly about evidence the d.a.'s office planned to share with his lawyers. trump pleaded not guilty to 34 counts of falsifying business records, involving hush money payments to adult film star, stormy daniels, as well as former playboy model, karen mcdougal. that, near the end of his 2016 presidential campaign, to keep them from going public with allegations of affairs. nbc legal analyst, lisa reuben, is joining me now. lisa, welcome on is how the day, saturday, thank you for spending time with us. but you looked at that discovery filing, do you get the sense that the recordings may include ones that were previously shared by michael cohen that we do know about? >> i do, alex. and i want to tell you why. there are clues in the rest of the order, in that includes the fact that there are data harvested from one witnesses to cell phones, and we know that as part of both discovery, in this, case but also, it has been seized from michael cohen

in a federal investigation that he had multiple cell phones. so, it could be that this is a conversation that we've heard before, we know about, involving michael cohen. but then again, there are also other conversations listed, not between the defendant and a witness, but between multiple witnesses, or between a witness and a third party. and in some respects, those conversations are even more interesting, because there may be ones that we don't know about, and we don't know, more importantly, were recorded at the time. >> okay, also, lisa, the addendum to this filing, really some eye-popping lists of books written by big names. before, during, as well as after the trump presidency. what role do you expect these to play in the trial? >> alex, in any criminal case, the defendants own statements can be used against them, and that doesn't mean it just those that are recorded on audio, but they could be those that aren't books, for example. so the manhattan d.a.'s office

has tried to create those harvest -- from donald trump, wherever they can find, them including in the copious number of books written about them, the whose everyone from maggie haberman to john harbaugh to her own katie her. the other thing that i find really include is lots of trump administration lumps, and perhaps, mostly sleeve, all the dorm in a trump world tower who has paid for his story that trump fathered a love child with a concierge in that building. that woman has since disavowed that story entirely, an american media ultimately did not believe it to be true, but nonetheless, they paid off that dorman, he has now written a book about what he claims he knew about that situation. >> yikes, salacious is a good word to use on that. thanks, lisa. for that. but get down to the new reporting this week from the washington post, which offers

details about the moment, or the movement of classified documents at mar-a-lago and who gave instructions to move those boxes. but is that, in itself, a smoking gun? just for the sake of argument here. can't trump's lawyers offer a reasonable amount of why documents that may have been moved around the -- >> i don't think, so alex, it is belied by the truth. so what makes the week's washington post reporting so explosive is that what it adds incrementally to what we already know. we already know that mar-a-lago gave someone else that we know now a maintenance worker things to the new york times reporting, not only moving boxes back into that storage room on the morning of june 2nd before trump lawyer, f a core thrown, did his search to turn over documents to the permit of justice next day. but we also know that those

boxes were moved out, sometime between may 11th, when the subpoena was first issued, and when they were moved back, in may 2nd. and there is other recording that tells, us in that interview, in that period, time they were moved to the residents, and trump went through, them and possibly extracted documents of interest to. him and so it is all of that reporting together that makes this week's reporting, so explosive about the boxes being moved back in the day before the fbi showed up for a prearranged meeting. >> we are gonna take a look now at what trump did, which was share this letter from his attorneys to attorney general, merrick garland, asking for a meeting to discuss special counsel jack smith's investigation. bloomberg reports that charges may be near. do you think that could be why they're asking for a meeting? can they get a meeting with merrick garland, and what could they possibly get out of it? >> ordinarily, in a criminal case fought by the department of justice, particularly where there is not a violent crime

issued, it is not a typical for a defendant's lawyers, prospective defense lawyers to ask for a meeting with high-ranking officials with the department of justice. what makes this case particularly all the special counsel regulation really leave the decisions here to jack smith, not to merrick garland. and so, on one hand, yes. i think one letter detailing that recording does not corroborate that we are nearing the end, on the other hand, they have purposely sent this letter to merrick garland to chose them as trump's political foil. this is more political wetter than it is a legal letter. the fact that congress is in the carbon copy of the letter to tell you that this is more of a political setup that it is illegitimate request for a meeting to avoid an indictment. >> exactly, because if merrick garland does not grant the meeting, then we have a lot to work with, so they, think okay, lisa, ruined my friend, good to see, you thank you much. guess who wants to pardon from

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investigation claiming that paxton repeatedly broke the law, nbc's priscilla thompson is at the capitol with more on this. welcome, priscilla. walk us through these allegations. but >> yeah, alex. these are the 20 articles of impeachment that the texas state is set to vote on in just a few hours. and they include allegations of disregard of official duty, bribery, and obstruction of justice, among others. and, so how did we get here? the house began investigating this a few months ago because ken paxton's office came to them requesting a 3.3 million dollar payout for a wrongful termination settlement, and that was to be paid out using taxpayer dollars. meaning the texas house had to approve that and that settlement came about because the senior level staffers reported misconduct by the attorney generals office to authorities, and they were subsequently fired. and at the heart of this issue, what we heard house investigators laying out earlier this week, in an hours

long hearing is a years-long pattern of misconduct the subtle allegations that ken paxton used his office to help a political donor was under investigation by the fbi and was also facing a lawsuit. now, we did hear from ken paxton on camera responding to these allegations late yesterday. i want to play a little bit of what he had to say, yesterday. >> they have denied me the opportunity to present the evidence with a politically motivated narrative, and they are showcasing their absolute contempt for the electoral process it. >> paxton is accusing the texas house for trying to overthrow the will of the voters who reelected him in november, and what we expect to see here is hours of very fiery debate. this is an issue that seems to be dividing the republican party. it was a republican-led committee that chose to adopt these articles of impeachment, it is a republican-controlled

house, but already, this morning, we have heard ted cruz weighing in, calling this a travesty. so we are seeing the divide begin to emerge between republicans here about the fate of texas attorney general, ken paxton, alex? >> all right, there is a lot more to talk. about we are gonna see you again next hour, thank you so, much priscilla. let's go down to some shocking video from a mid air scare after a passenger allegedly opens the emergency exit door of a plane while it was still in-flight. this frightening scene caught on camera shows other travelers holding on for dear life. nbc's steve patterson has this report. >> the heart pounding seconds in the skies above south korea. passengers, white knuckling through a whim whipped asiana airlines flight, moments after a man allegedly ripped open the planes emergency door, minutes before landing. >> it is recklessly endangering all of the other passengers and crew on the airplanes. airline officials say the plane

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cuts. >> joining me now is maya macguineas, president of committee for a responsible federal budget. so you are the person to talk, to my. i thank you for joining me on this saturday. the word is that president biden and speaker mccarthy are close to a deal on principle, but the calendar presents quite a huge challenge. both the gop-controlled house, the democratic-led senate, they've got to approve whatever deal they make. so what, if it does not pass, both chambers kind of an impact would it default make on the economy, immediately afterwards? >> and just put up in my stomach, because i'm feeling optimistic and hoping you're gonna be able to pass it on time in a timely manner. if that isn't the case, this could be terrible. for us to default would have huge negative consequences on the economy, at a very time when we already had this huge, triple challenge, of trying to fight inflation, avoid a recession, and stop the bank contingent, to stop the spread of the bank killers that we've seen. the economy is already kind of

a precarious state, if we were to default, interest rates would go up immediately, and have a lasting, negative consequence. that would make borrowing more expensive for everybody. and importantly, it would cause us to lose the credibility that we have in the eyes of the world of being a reserve currency in the safe haven, and it would be such a self imposed crisis. i am relieved to say that i don't think it is going to happen, it would be terrible if it did. >> let's talk about the date. because the treasury secretary, janet yellen, said the u.s. is going to run out of money to pay its bills on time. this will happen by june 5th. however, she has moved the goalpost back three days from what she previously expected. she wasn't so specific on june, first but she indicated that that was more of the working date. what moves might she make deciding who gets paid, and speaking of the date, do you think the brief for june 5th is the day, that without a deal, that is when we default? >> the first thing to know is that we should absolutely not

be waiting until the very last second. we've already waited too long, we should've done this before extraordinary measures even had to be used back in january. the second thing to note is that there is no possible way to predict the absolute ex-date. so when the secretary of the treasury tells us the dates, those are the days that she thinks that are most likely. and i will tell you, she is a straight shooter. she is telling us, the american people, what she believes those dates are. but it is impossible to predict. because different amounts of money come in and out of the treasury every single day. and nobody can know, down to the hour. we want to until happens, and again, it should not happen that way. if she does have to prioritize, there should be something that she'd never does before. it is unclear that, operationally, it would make sense at all. but what we know is that the first thing you have to pay is interest on the debt. interest payments, which, by the, way are running this country ten trillion dollars over the coming decade, an astronomical amount. they are the first claim on the budget, and that is one of the problems with all this

borrowing. but with these interest payments to squeeze out other important areas of our federal budget. >> okay so the fact that you got a pit in your stomach and you are talking about this never having been done before, let me ask you about more and more progressive lawmakers who want the debt ceiling abolished altogether in figure out why as a country we do this to ourselves. but president biden's have said, consistently, but it would be irresponsible to abolish the debt ceiling. what do you, my, i think about getting rid of it, and what would that compare to our repeatedly bringing the u.s., right up to the brink of disaster and then barely avoiding it? >> really important question. because in its current form and how it's being used, the debt ceiling is clearly becoming too dangerous to be a useful tool. and it has been a useful tool, and in, fact this time will be in that, when they lift the debt ceiling, it carries policies that improve the fiscal situation, if we are bothering too much, we couldn't play spending caps, the

packages of saving that help control the deficit, somewhat. i will say, the big exception was under president trump, who three, times lifted the debt ceiling, and included policies with that. that made the debt worse. actually, increased our national debt ceiling. but it's clear we're coming to close to default, and the willingness of any lawmakers to do that means that we have to replace it. it will help control our borrowing, but is less dangerous, with less terrible consequences than to fall that. so reform replace the debt ceiling, don't repeal it completely though. >> okay. quick answer, i have recently seen the wall street journal, what makes this argument, that corporate breed it is currently referred to as inflation. it is helping to save off recession. can you give us a concept, do you agree? >> well, a really tricky thing is the balance between inflation and recession. so in order to help fight inflation, what the fed has to do is increase interest rates. and that will cause us to

purchase less. however, the higher rays, the more likely that we hit recession, go into a recession, what we've been seeing from a lot of corporations is that there is a high enough demand. they are continuing to increase prices, and that is pushing higher prices along to consumers. this will only last as long as consumers are willing to pay what they are. but the best balancing act to bring inflation down, which is kind of a budget deal that saves more money around the debt ceiling will actually help us fight inflation. it hopefully doesn't take the economy or put us into a bigger recession. >> that's a tricky, one that's for sure. okay, maya mcinnis, could to see you, many thanks. so they came by planes, trains, and automobiles, all of that trouble marking the unofficial start of summer. some of you are already having an awful lot of fun. we are going to get into that, next. >> think national improves back a shunt. see the real america.

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stations are all jammed. all in an effort to get away for this memorial day weekend, and it is not all just parades and barbecues. there are also swifties. taylor swift fans taking over met life stadium in new jersey, we are gonna get all of that with nbc's -- in philadelphia, emily academy, in east rutherford, new jersey. welcome, guys. georgia, most are with you. because i know you're in that philadelphia international airport. so what here from the travelers there, yeah, alex? so far it is smooth sailing this memorial day weekend. we've seen a lot of congestion, the faa forecasts of 37,000 flights today. airlines, of, course hoping to have a repeat of this time last year, we saw those rapidly isn't cancellations because of staffing. in airline saying that we got, it we're ready for this rush. good news for the travelers, because, of course, they know it's going to be one of the busiest travel periods in decades. all told about 42 million americans getting away, about 40 my miles or so, but most of them, taking the car, about 37

million. that is because gas prices are also cheaper than they were this time, last year. about 3.5 tickets. going by plane, i should, say in that about 2 million or, so a car or a other mode of transportation, while i was, here i saw a number of travelers about why they shows this type of year to go on a flight, because many of them are feeling cooped up after the pandemic. and they just wanted a destination getaway. take a look at what one traveler told me. >> i'm excited, i've been ready to get a town for a little bit. roads were kind like the, beach and everything. so i liked having to get down there. i just graduates going florida. >> they're saying it's a huge traffic weekend, so it looks great. somebody is doing a good job. >> we earlier, the earlier you get, you're less trust you have. traveling is the best way to go out. >> transportation officials are also taking somewhat of a victory lap because of the cancellation rate underway has been under 1%. if you take a little bit of the good with the bad, we are

seeing some delays in some of the nations larger airports, but all, told all things are not so bad. so at this, point it looks like officials are looking up to the important things. things are exponentially better, alex? >> that's good. news we appreciate, that george. thank you. in the meantime, holiday traffic could be heavy in the new york city area this weekend, not just because a memorial day travelers, taylor swift played her first free knew -- on her sold out area shows last night, we had 1000 people in that live stadium this weekend. let's go to nbc's emilie ikeda who is an east rutherford, new jersey, for. us what is ahead for night to? >> hey, there. alex they open the gates to the stadium area. so we are beginning to see some of these fans pile into the area. mind, you six hours in advance of the big events. new jersey's governor, comparing the concerts traction and traffic, for that, matter to hosting three super bowls. but this holiday, weekend

taylor mania is taking over the tri-state. >> welcome to new york. >> as the superstar and tens of thousands of swifties swarm met life stadium just outside of new york city. >> we love, you taylor. >> fans of all ages are enchanted to be here. >> i, am on the, record a very big taylor swift fan, thanks to my daughters. >> will there be tears shed tonight? >> i was crying on the way here. >> not even snarl traffic or snaking lines for merge could dull fancy excitement, or mine, for that matter. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> friday's concert, sprinkled with surprises. >> new jersey! including rapper i spice, who was featured in the remakes overnight. ali and what we've seen fans

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desantis will get were campaign for president next week with a tour of early voting states. desantis will make stops in a dozen cities, including iowa, new hampshire, and south carolina over the course of the next few days. it comes as four new national polls show that trump holding a commanding lead in the race, with desantis in second place by about double digits, mostly. joining me now, danielle moodie, host of the woke af daily podcast and co-host of the new abnormal and democracy-ish podcast, as well as she make a signal turn, former political -- host of the shermichael singleton show on sirius xm. welcome to you both, shermichael, as you know, shimon desantis has a controversial record in

florida. -- the feud with disney, primrose consider carey, et cetera. how will these issues played the state's dizzying next week. >> i think for the republican primary, some of those positions will play well. but will they play well enough to be able to get him to increase his current standing over donald trump, i'm not exactly sure of that. because from my position he was able to take many positions very similar to trump. so it's like if you are ever a republican voter, or your conservative, do you want trump right or do you just want trump? now, as this pertains to a general election but the biggest concern for this desantis, is that if you were to become gop nominee, is that how do you deal with this abortion issue. you've got that six-week ban just does not register well with suburban white voters, it doesn't register well with swing voters, and also, as you look at the last midterm, if you look at certain races like -- we have seen the impact that this has had on republican and

republicans across the country. >> it's an element with that. one that is for sure. so,, danielle desantis was asked this week whether he asked pardoning january six defendants, listen to part of his answer. >> what i'm going to do is that i'm going to do, on day one, i'm going to have folks that will get together and look at all these cases who people are victims of weaponization or political targeting and we will be aggressive in issuing pardons. now, some of these, some of these cases may have a technical violation of the law. but if there are three other people who did the same thing but just in a context of blm and they don't get prosecuted at all, that is uneven application of justice act. >> and look. trump has also said that he is going to pardon a large portion of january six defendants. so what does it say about the race overall, that this is a problem that the top two gop candidates.

>> it says that the republican party is totally anti-democratic. i mean, but you had insurrectionist trying to overturn an election, if they had republican candidates that were trying to say that that's okay. this is not a tourist event, this is a violent attack on our capitol building that caused the death of him -- but that caused police officers emotional distress. the idea that you have candidates that believe that this is a winning message that we don't believe in law on order in this country and that their followers can do whatever it is that they want is a dangerous one. and it is one why the fbi and other agencies have issue about why domestic terrorism is one of our biggest threats to our democracy right now. >> that is interesting. shermichael, did you know that desantis is entering the race really facing attacks from all sides, right. he is getting attacked from trump, as well as the other candidates who are behind him. what does it say that everyone is piling on desantis, but not

donald trump? [laughter] >> i think trump is piling on him. i've spoken with several folks who are working on his campaign, and they are getting ready to they are getting to begin the campaign in a more robust effort. i think we're gonna begin to see more increases from the president, former president, rather, some of his surrogates as it retains to run desantis, and pointing out some of his serious level of inconsistencies and hypocrisy. i will just 0.1 quick example. during an interview with ben shapiro, he said that he is going to repeal the first step act, which for me, is just a line in the sand, if you will. there is no way i would ever personally consider him for a possible vote, in my opinion. and i hope others to do the same. and as a congressman, he voted for the first iteration of, it and then when he became governor he voted for a similar thing. so we look at these inconsistencies you have to ask yourself if you are a

republican voter, is the type of person you want to vote for it? is this type of person to be trusted? or is this a person or candidate who would take any position dependent on which way the wind blows? >> here is one desantis law getting national attention this weekend. the governor's book, banning laws, have led to a florida school restricting some of its youngest students from reading a column. the first national youth poet laureate, amanda gorman, famously recited that president biden's inauguration, part of that. >> striving to forge our union with purpose. to compose a country committed to all cultures, colors, characters, and conditions of man. >> that home, it's called the hill we climb, it was banned from elementary school students in miami-dade county after a parent complained that it contained hate messages and in a statement released gorman said quote, i'm gutted. i wrote the hill we climb so all young people can see

themselves in a historical moment. danielle,